Three Protagonists Taking Over Los Santos in GTA V

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Legion:
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why would it be worse? its not hard..no seriously it would NOT be hard, all it requires is balls on the part of the dev, people need to get over this phobia hey have..I understand why (laracroft) but in the end you have to ignore those people

it just gets annoying when I feel people keep making up excuses...there are no excuses..not anymore

how "realistic" is GTA suposed to be anyway?

guy on the right looks interesting...other two...standard criminal fair *yawn*

Evil Smurf:
Is it as crazy and fun as SR3? If not, I am not buying it.

why do people act like any attempt at you know...being compelling is going to give them depression? or some dissease?

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

It wouldn't have to be shoehorned in at all, hell you could make a woman be ex military or an ex con, I've got a back story for her right here.
Shes an ex-Israeli solder who moves to the states to help her sister get out of some trouble she got into. See, bam, compelling.

Oh right replace Hispanics with most likely white women. That's totally better. Because we all know white people never get enough coverage about how hard it is to to be white in a white person's world.

That totally wouldn't come off badly to minorities or the general public. /sarcasm overload

Give Rockstar the chance to give Hispanics a turn, they haven't gotten their turn yet. Its not like its the last GTA to ever be made. Stop freaking out over nothing.

What the hell are you talking about? Is there a hispanic woman you play as in the game?
From the article picture it looks like its two white guys and a black guy. Anyway, I was just giving an example of a way you could have a women who is ex military since having some kind of back story that would show they have knowledge of weapons is very important in gta games. >.> Anyway, one of the few military's I know of that is integrated with woman as front line troops is Israel, so I went with them, I don't know of any hispanic counties with an integrated military.

My point is: just be happy it isn't a middle aged white guy on a quest that involved 99% other middle aged white guys.

secondly, the right guy is half hispanic. You can still be light skinned and hispanic, there is no needed "darkness" to be Hispanic. Just genetics. I seen Hispanics that look like him constantly.

The middle is also Hispanic, how you confuse him with a black guy is mind boggling unless you went the "dark skin = black." I also know a lot of Hispanics who look like this guy.

The only one who isn't obviously Hispanic is the left one.

Hispanic women is a hard thing to do. You have a lot of culture to apply to her. A lot of mentalities that you must get right. Hispanic men are much freer, but has a faint link to the same mentalities the women follow. I doubt any writer would want to go down that route, especially since most of it is unknown to the majority of the player base.

Most likely it end being called sexist.

I'm not really interested in this, but I found this on reddit and thought you guys might want to read through it. Enjoy :)

Calling it now, the final boss will be one of the player characters.

They gave us some choices in the GTA IV, so maybe they'll go further in this, with your choices determining who you play in the final mission, and who you go up against.

I hope we switch between them throughout the story. I don't want a co-op mode.

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Oh right replace Hispanics with most likely white women. That's totally better. Because we all know white people never get enough coverage about how hard it is to to be white in a white person's world.

That totally wouldn't come off badly to minorities or the general public. /sarcasm overload

Give Rockstar the chance to give Hispanics a turn, they haven't gotten their turn yet. Its not like its the last GTA to ever be made. Stop freaking out over nothing.

What the hell are you talking about? Is there a hispanic woman you play as in the game?
From the article picture it looks like its two white guys and a black guy. Anyway, I was just giving an example of a way you could have a women who is ex military since having some kind of back story that would show they have knowledge of weapons is very important in gta games. >.> Anyway, one of the few military's I know of that is integrated with woman as front line troops is Israel, so I went with them, I don't know of any hispanic counties with an integrated military.

My point is: just be happy it isn't a middle aged white guy on a quest that involved 99% other middle aged white guys.

secondly, the right guy is half hispanic. You can still be light skinned and hispanic, there is no needed "darkness" to be Hispanic. Just genetics. I seen Hispanics that look like him constantly.

The middle is also Hispanic, how you confuse him with a black guy is mind boggling unless you went the "dark skin = black." I also know a lot of Hispanics who look like this guy.

The only one who isn't obviously Hispanic is the left one.

Hispanic women is a hard thing to do. You have a lot of culture to apply to her. A lot of mentalities that you must get right. Hispanic men are much freer, but has a faint link to the same mentalities the women follow. I doubt any writer would want to go down that route, especially since most of it is unknown to the majority of the player base.

Most likely it end being called sexist.

They still look white to me and the middle still looks black, I suppose its possible that one of them is a light skinned hispanic but I would be surprised as hell if the middle one isn't black.

I'll bet if they did put a hispanic woman in the game she would end up being more of a stereotype even if they didn't intend it. The hot blooded hispanic woman is second only to the hispanic maid in media and to be a character in gta you pretty much have to be hot blooded.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

Sorry, had to get that out.

Want this, so so much right now. GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, and Max Payne 3 were all incredible games - and it's looking like Rockstar is going to keep up the trend. 8)

Vault101:

Evil Smurf:
Is it as crazy and fun as SR3? If not, I am not buying it.

why do people act like any attempt at you know...being compelling is going to give them depression? or some dissease?

Because dildos are the height of comedy, and any attempt to be serious means you're a boring twat, apparently. Ugh, Saint's Row. That game is fun for all of five minutes until you realise it's entirely made of gimmicks.

They can't handle one, so this should be interesting.

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

What the hell are you talking about? Is there a hispanic woman you play as in the game?
From the article picture it looks like its two white guys and a black guy. Anyway, I was just giving an example of a way you could have a women who is ex military since having some kind of back story that would show they have knowledge of weapons is very important in gta games. >.> Anyway, one of the few military's I know of that is integrated with woman as front line troops is Israel, so I went with them, I don't know of any hispanic counties with an integrated military.

My point is: just be happy it isn't a middle aged white guy on a quest that involved 99% other middle aged white guys.

secondly, the right guy is half hispanic. You can still be light skinned and hispanic, there is no needed "darkness" to be Hispanic. Just genetics. I seen Hispanics that look like him constantly.

The middle is also Hispanic, how you confuse him with a black guy is mind boggling unless you went the "dark skin = black." I also know a lot of Hispanics who look like this guy.

The only one who isn't obviously Hispanic is the left one.

Hispanic women is a hard thing to do. You have a lot of culture to apply to her. A lot of mentalities that you must get right. Hispanic men are much freer, but has a faint link to the same mentalities the women follow. I doubt any writer would want to go down that route, especially since most of it is unknown to the majority of the player base.

Most likely it end being called sexist.

They still look white to me and the middle still looks black, I suppose its possible that one of them is a light skinned hispanic but I would be surprised as hell if the middle one isn't black.

I'll bet if they did put a hispanic woman in the game she would end up being more of a stereotype even if they didn't intend it. The hot blooded hispanic woman is second only to the hispanic maid in media and to be a character in gta you pretty much have to be hot blooded.

You can tell he is Hispanic simply by how he is dressed.

That clothing itself is a old school 90s throwback, fashion only popular in Hispanic circles. Its also popular with the old school Cholos. You only see this kind of stuff in Hispanic ghettos and Downtown-East LA. Hispanic neighborhoods with Hispanic gangs.

Dressing like that is not a good idea for anyone not affiliated with a gang. That's how you get shot. Black and Hispanic gangs do have bad blood between them, anyone that dresses like or acts like a cholo is a target. Regardless if they were real gang members or not.

Since the gangs are race based, it would make little sense for a black guy to dress like an old school cholo.

Apparently you'll be able to swap between the characters any time during free roam but also during the missions,not sure if that means on the fly or between checkpoints though.
Customization will stay the same as in previous GTA,so clothes only.Unfortunately you won't be able to buy any real-estates.

The map will be "bigger than Read Dead Redemption, Grand Theft Auto IV and San Andreas combined."

Each character will also have a unique social circle (whom they can go bowling with,yay...)

Shooting & melee have been improved which is nice,I really disliked the way they handled shooting in 4 and RDR.It was so clunky compared to driving.

And I agree,woulda been nice to see them handle a female main character for once.(Something like Catalina with less crazy and more depth to it:p)

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

My point is: just be happy it isn't a middle aged white guy on a quest that involved 99% other middle aged white guys.

secondly, the right guy is half hispanic. You can still be light skinned and hispanic, there is no needed "darkness" to be Hispanic. Just genetics. I seen Hispanics that look like him constantly.

The middle is also Hispanic, how you confuse him with a black guy is mind boggling unless you went the "dark skin = black." I also know a lot of Hispanics who look like this guy.

The only one who isn't obviously Hispanic is the left one.

Hispanic women is a hard thing to do. You have a lot of culture to apply to her. A lot of mentalities that you must get right. Hispanic men are much freer, but has a faint link to the same mentalities the women follow. I doubt any writer would want to go down that route, especially since most of it is unknown to the majority of the player base.

Most likely it end being called sexist.

They still look white to me and the middle still looks black, I suppose its possible that one of them is a light skinned hispanic but I would be surprised as hell if the middle one isn't black.

I'll bet if they did put a hispanic woman in the game she would end up being more of a stereotype even if they didn't intend it. The hot blooded hispanic woman is second only to the hispanic maid in media and to be a character in gta you pretty much have to be hot blooded.

You can tell he is Hispanic simply by how he is dressed.

That clothing itself is a old school 90s throwback, fashion only popular in Hispanic circles. Its also popular with the old school Cholos. You only see this kind of stuff in Hispanic ghettos and Downtown-East LA. Hispanic neighborhoods with Hispanic gangs.

Dressing like that is not a good idea for anyone not affiliated with a gang. That's how you get shot. Black and Hispanic gangs do have bad blood between them, anyone that dresses like or acts like a cholo is a target. Regardless if they were real gang members or not.

Since the gangs are race based, it would make little sense for a black guy to dress like an old school cholo.

Since when has promotional material cared about anything but looking "cool"?

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

They still look white to me and the middle still looks black, I suppose its possible that one of them is a light skinned hispanic but I would be surprised as hell if the middle one isn't black.

I'll bet if they did put a hispanic woman in the game she would end up being more of a stereotype even if they didn't intend it. The hot blooded hispanic woman is second only to the hispanic maid in media and to be a character in gta you pretty much have to be hot blooded.

You can tell he is Hispanic simply by how he is dressed.

That clothing itself is a old school 90s throwback, fashion only popular in Hispanic circles. Its also popular with the old school Cholos. You only see this kind of stuff in Hispanic ghettos and Downtown-East LA. Hispanic neighborhoods with Hispanic gangs.

Dressing like that is not a good idea for anyone not affiliated with a gang. That's how you get shot. Black and Hispanic gangs do have bad blood between them, anyone that dresses like or acts like a cholo is a target. Regardless if they were real gang members or not.

Since the gangs are race based, it would make little sense for a black guy to dress like an old school cholo.

Since when has promotional material cared about anything but looking "cool"?

Since when is dressing like you walked out of 1992 cool?

A black guy dressing like a Hispanic gang makes no sense, which means he must be Hispanic. That's the original question, not whether it was cool.

Its like a white guy dressing like a black gang member with black face. It makes no sense. A white guy trying that would be shot on day one. The way the black guy dressing like a cholo would.

The question was whether he was black or not. My argument was that if he was black it would make as much sense as black face white guy.

God this sounds interesting. I want it now.

And yeah, it's kind of disappointing that none of the protagonists are female, there's always DLC. Hopefully they'll go another "Episodes" route. Lost and Damned and Ballad of Gay Tony are the best examples of DLC to date. None have done better.

Sarah LeBoeuf:
released last week

I got exited then. By last week, you mean last YEAR.

NightHawk21:
I'm not really interested in this, but I found this on reddit and thought you guys might want to read through it. Enjoy :)

Thanks, man!

When this guy's dad's complaints have been dealt with,

Then I'll be be willing to care again.

You hurt me last time Rockstar. You hurt me real bad.

TopazFusion:
I'm a bit disappointed really. It's just three brown-haired dudes, same as always.

Agreed, a blonde would be extremely avant garde.
Oh God... a ginger would be absolutely mindblowing.

Serious note; what came to my mind was "ok, a black, white and latin guy... demographic pandering much?".

Oh man, I can't wait to play as White Guy with Short Cropped Hair, White Guy with Short Cropped Hair & Scraggly Beard and Kind of Brownish Guy with Short Cropped Hair!

GTwander:

TopazFusion:
I'm a bit disappointed really. It's just three brown-haired dudes, same as always.

Agreed, a blonde would be extremely avant garde.
Oh God... a ginger would be absolutely mindblowing.

Serious note; what came to my mind was "ok, a black, white and latin guy... demographic pandering much?".

Why do people always assume the middle one is black?

Its two Hispanics and a white guy. Just because a person's skin is dark doesn't mean he is black.

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

You can tell he is Hispanic simply by how he is dressed.

That clothing itself is a old school 90s throwback, fashion only popular in Hispanic circles. Its also popular with the old school Cholos. You only see this kind of stuff in Hispanic ghettos and Downtown-East LA. Hispanic neighborhoods with Hispanic gangs.

Dressing like that is not a good idea for anyone not affiliated with a gang. That's how you get shot. Black and Hispanic gangs do have bad blood between them, anyone that dresses like or acts like a cholo is a target. Regardless if they were real gang members or not.

Since the gangs are race based, it would make little sense for a black guy to dress like an old school cholo.

Since when has promotional material cared about anything but looking "cool"?

Since when is dressing like you walked out of 1992 cool?

A black guy dressing like a Hispanic gang makes no sense, which means he must be Hispanic. That's the original question, not whether it was cool.

Its like a white guy dressing like a black gang member with black face. It makes no sense. A white guy trying that would be shot on day one. The way the black guy dressing like a cholo would.

The question was whether he was black or not. My argument was that if he was black it would make as much sense as black face white guy.

See, the problem with that is that your assuming they cared. Chances are who ever did the art for it was just looking though designs of clothing that gang members tended to wear and though it looked cool and threw it on the characters.

Ultratwinkie:

GTwander:

TopazFusion:
I'm a bit disappointed really. It's just three brown-haired dudes, same as always.

Agreed, a blonde would be extremely avant garde.
Oh God... a ginger would be absolutely mindblowing.

Serious note; what came to my mind was "ok, a black, white and latin guy... demographic pandering much?".

Why do people always assume the middle one is black?

Its two Hispanics and a white guy. Just because a person's skin is dark doesn't mean he is black.

He looks like Tracy Morgan, you out yo mind man.
If you are trying to say he's hispanic because he dresses like a cholo, that makes you racist.

I had an Italian friend that did the same. High socks doesn't make you Mexican.

GTwander:

Ultratwinkie:

GTwander:

Agreed, a blonde would be extremely avant garde.
Oh God... a ginger would be absolutely mindblowing.

Serious note; what came to my mind was "ok, a black, white and latin guy... demographic pandering much?".

Why do people always assume the middle one is black?

Its two Hispanics and a white guy. Just because a person's skin is dark doesn't mean he is black.

He looks like Tracy Morgan, you out yo mind man.
If you are trying to say he's hispanic because he dresses like a cholo, that makes you racist.

I had an Italian friend that did the same. High socks doesn't make you Mexican.

no, it doesn't. High socks can be construed as a gang sign, though I was never sure which gang. Its still used in California, but its not an overly blatant sign.

Besides, I am Hispanic. I knew Cholos. Practically everyone did at one point. I knew actual gang members. How do you think I know all this?

Not every person on the Escapist is a white European from a gated community.

Old school 1990s Cholo clothes? Being worn by a "black guy?" Even though he looks much lighter in the actual screen shots?

image

GTA uses overly colorful cartoons. Don't overly rely on them especially when they give bad angles on the faces.

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Since when has promotional material cared about anything but looking "cool"?

Since when is dressing like you walked out of 1992 cool?

A black guy dressing like a Hispanic gang makes no sense, which means he must be Hispanic. That's the original question, not whether it was cool.

Its like a white guy dressing like a black gang member with black face. It makes no sense. A white guy trying that would be shot on day one. The way the black guy dressing like a cholo would.

The question was whether he was black or not. My argument was that if he was black it would make as much sense as black face white guy.

See, the problem with that is that your assuming they cared. Chances are who ever did the art for it was just looking though designs of clothing that gang members tended to wear and though it looked cool and threw it on the characters.

Yeah, clothes old school gang members wear from 20 years ago. Almost iconic clothes at that. As if they can somehow mix that up.

If Rockstar took the time to look up other Iconic facets and look of California, I doubt they would be lazy enough to just throw "gang member clothes" onto a main character.

You are talking about a company that almost obsessively adds detail, even down the dating sites and a rumored "vibrant economy." A company that spends over 100 million dollars for a vast, detailed game.

I doubt rockstar is that lazy, or cash strapped.

Ultratwinkie:

GTwander:

Ultratwinkie:

Why do people always assume the middle one is black?

Its two Hispanics and a white guy. Just because a person's skin is dark doesn't mean he is black.

He looks like Tracy Morgan, you out yo mind man.
If you are trying to say he's hispanic because he dresses like a cholo, that makes you racist.

I had an Italian friend that did the same. High socks doesn't make you Mexican.

no, it doesn't. High socks can be construed as a gang sign, though I was never sure which gang. Its still used in California, but its not an overly blatant sign.

Besides, I am Hispanic. I knew Cholos. Practically everyone did at one point. I knew actual gang members. How do you think I know all this?

Not every person on the Escapist is a white European from a gated community.

Old school 1990s Cholo clothes? Being worn by a "black guy?" Even though he looks much lighter in the actual screen shots?

image

GTA uses overly colorful cartoons. Don't overly rely on them especially when they give bad angles on the faces.

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Since when is dressing like you walked out of 1992 cool?

A black guy dressing like a Hispanic gang makes no sense, which means he must be Hispanic. That's the original question, not whether it was cool.

Its like a white guy dressing like a black gang member with black face. It makes no sense. A white guy trying that would be shot on day one. The way the black guy dressing like a cholo would.

The question was whether he was black or not. My argument was that if he was black it would make as much sense as black face white guy.

See, the problem with that is that your assuming they cared. Chances are who ever did the art for it was just looking though designs of clothing that gang members tended to wear and though it looked cool and threw it on the characters.

Yeah, clothes old school gang members wear from 20 years ago. Almost iconic clothes at that. As if they can somehow mix that up.

If Rockstar took the time to look up other Iconic facets and look of California, I doubt they would be lazy enough to just throw "gang member clothes" onto a main character.

You are talking about a company that almost obsessively adds detail, even down the dating sites and a rumored "vibrant economy." A company that spends over 100 million dollars for a vast, detailed game.

I doubt rockstar is that lazy, or cash strapped.

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

well GTA:San Andreas was my less favorite GTA game I like the setting I hope the other two islands are still there as well.

I was hoping to play Tommy from GTA:Vice city which I considered the best GTA game of all time.

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

GTwander:

He looks like Tracy Morgan, you out yo mind man.
If you are trying to say he's hispanic because he dresses like a cholo, that makes you racist.

I had an Italian friend that did the same. High socks doesn't make you Mexican.

no, it doesn't. High socks can be construed as a gang sign, though I was never sure which gang. Its still used in California, but its not an overly blatant sign.

Besides, I am Hispanic. I knew Cholos. Practically everyone did at one point. I knew actual gang members. How do you think I know all this?

Not every person on the Escapist is a white European from a gated community.

Old school 1990s Cholo clothes? Being worn by a "black guy?" Even though he looks much lighter in the actual screen shots?

image

GTA uses overly colorful cartoons. Don't overly rely on them especially when they give bad angles on the faces.

Worgen:

See, the problem with that is that your assuming they cared. Chances are who ever did the art for it was just looking though designs of clothing that gang members tended to wear and though it looked cool and threw it on the characters.

Yeah, clothes old school gang members wear from 20 years ago. Almost iconic clothes at that. As if they can somehow mix that up.

If Rockstar took the time to look up other Iconic facets and look of California, I doubt they would be lazy enough to just throw "gang member clothes" onto a main character.

You are talking about a company that almost obsessively adds detail, even down the dating sites and a rumored "vibrant economy." A company that spends over 100 million dollars for a vast, detailed game.

I doubt rockstar is that lazy, or cash strapped.

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

Promotional art is meant to give a feel for its characters and personality. A feel for what and who the character is. Its a stereotype drawing. While the clothing may or may not be in the game, its the iconography that gives you a feel for its personality. That's the entire point for GTA's art.

GTA always did it in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at the loading screen of GTA IV's gay character. Rockstar was never known for a non-stereotypical over the top character.

Does it matter if its in the game? No, not really. Does customization matter? No, since personality can't be customized in GTA. The art is there to convey a character's personality and role. Nothing else.

All of the character's artwork pointed to the stereotypical cholo. Its the same no matter what game.

Does it matter how nice Niko dresses? No, he will always be an eastern European who talks about the "old country."

JoesshittyOs:

Therumancer:
Seems to me that they are imitating Yakuza.

That said, I'm less excited about the idea than I probably should be, I considered GTA IV a bit of a disappointment especially compared to SR 2 and even 3. To me it seems like a choice that is going to lead the game in an increasingly cinematic, and less sandbox-ish type enviroment, probably a situation where your forced to switch between characters at pivotal moments to show things from a differant perspective, and the various "gating" is going to be accomplished that way, with limited enviroments for each character at any given time.

I could be wrong about that, but I can't help but think "GTA V: Yakuza Clone" when I hear this.

There's so many things wrong with that last line it hurts.

C'mon.... Really now? You GTA is trying to copy the Yakuza series -with the most latest addition of that series focusing on a zombie apocalypse in Japan- based solely on the premise that there are now multiple protagonists? Because it's such an unused concept?

The series, not specific chapters of it. The whole "multiple protaganists" thing has been a Yakuza staple for the last couple of installments, zombies have little to do with it. It's pretty transparent Rockstar is copying from the competition, Yakuza being one of their competitors, and also a long lasting series.

You might not like the point, but I call it as I see it. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with borrowing things from other games in of itself, that's how the industry grows. I just tend to think this paticular gimmick is more of an annoyance than anything, and given the amount of time GTA V has been out there and nearing development I find it pretty disturbing when this is really the only big thing we've heard involving it. Given the missteps of GTA IV, going too cinematic, reduced options and play area since San Andreas, and other things, this sadly seems to be something I'd expect from Rockstar. I honestly don't think Rockstar has been the same since the whole "Hot Coffee" thing, especially in terms of innovation. I think when they decided to back down there it kind of crushed the soul of the company on a number of levels. For today's Rockstar, the guys who made GTA IV, picking up the gimmick from one of the "also ran" series and using it as the central gimmick of their newest game is kind of what I'd expect.

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

no, it doesn't. High socks can be construed as a gang sign, though I was never sure which gang. Its still used in California, but its not an overly blatant sign.

Besides, I am Hispanic. I knew Cholos. Practically everyone did at one point. I knew actual gang members. How do you think I know all this?

Not every person on the Escapist is a white European from a gated community.

Old school 1990s Cholo clothes? Being worn by a "black guy?" Even though he looks much lighter in the actual screen shots?

image

GTA uses overly colorful cartoons. Don't overly rely on them especially when they give bad angles on the faces.

Yeah, clothes old school gang members wear from 20 years ago. Almost iconic clothes at that. As if they can somehow mix that up.

If Rockstar took the time to look up other Iconic facets and look of California, I doubt they would be lazy enough to just throw "gang member clothes" onto a main character.

You are talking about a company that almost obsessively adds detail, even down the dating sites and a rumored "vibrant economy." A company that spends over 100 million dollars for a vast, detailed game.

I doubt rockstar is that lazy, or cash strapped.

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

Promotional art is meant to give a feel for its characters and personality. A feel for what and who the character is. Its a stereotype drawing. While the clothing may or may not be in the game, its the iconography that gives you a feel for its personality. That's the entire point for GTA's art.

GTA always did it in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at the loading screen of GTA IV's gay character. Rockstar was never known for a non-stereotypical over the top character.

Does it matter if its in the game? No, not really. Does customization matter? No, since personality can't be customized in GTA. The art is there to convey a character's personality and role. Nothing else.

All of the character's artwork pointed to the stereotypical cholo. Its the same no matter what game.

Does it matter how nice Niko dresses? No, he will always be an eastern European who talks about the "old country."

The more I look at that pic, the more I'm convinced your seeing something that isn't there. Why don't you point out exactly what it is about the clothes that not only make you think gang, but also make you think they are all hispanic, aside from which ever white guy is the white guy.

I still get around the fact that out of 3 San Andreas cities they had to pick the worst for thier GTA5. LEts just hope GTA 6 will get us to san fierro :D

bah, oops quoted wrong dude.

once again, quoted wrong person. goddamnit.

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

no, it doesn't. High socks can be construed as a gang sign, though I was never sure which gang. Its still used in California, but its not an overly blatant sign.

Besides, I am Hispanic. I knew Cholos. Practically everyone did at one point. I knew actual gang members. How do you think I know all this?

Not every person on the Escapist is a white European from a gated community.

Old school 1990s Cholo clothes? Being worn by a "black guy?" Even though he looks much lighter in the actual screen shots?

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GTA uses overly colorful cartoons. Don't overly rely on them especially when they give bad angles on the faces.

Yeah, clothes old school gang members wear from 20 years ago. Almost iconic clothes at that. As if they can somehow mix that up.

If Rockstar took the time to look up other Iconic facets and look of California, I doubt they would be lazy enough to just throw "gang member clothes" onto a main character.

You are talking about a company that almost obsessively adds detail, even down the dating sites and a rumored "vibrant economy." A company that spends over 100 million dollars for a vast, detailed game.

I doubt rockstar is that lazy, or cash strapped.

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

Promotional art is meant to give a feel for its characters and personality. A feel for what and who the character is. Its a stereotype drawing. While the clothing may or may not be in the game, its the iconography that gives you a feel for its personality. That's the entire point for GTA's art.

GTA always did it in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at the loading screen of GTA IV's gay character. Rockstar was never known for a non-stereotypical over the top character.

Does it matter if its in the game? No, not really. Does customization matter? No, since personality can't be customized in GTA. The art is there to convey a character's personality and role. Nothing else.

All of the character's artwork pointed to the stereotypical cholo. Its the same no matter what game.

Does it matter how nice Niko dresses? No, he will always be an eastern European who talks about the "old country."

Yeah, no. Pretty sure he's supposed to be black dude.

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After Seeing one of the art things where there is that female copper busting that other lady, had me thinking Fuck yeah you are a woman who is a cop that somehow maybe went bad. Thats what i would like to see.

also I really do hope that in this GTA there is a chapter in the game where you are somehow nicked and get sent to prison and you have to do a load of prision type missions before somehow escaping In A riot or doing your time. it will open up some interesting side quest i reckon.

one am thinking of is a guard in prison is a real hard arse and after you get out you go see him and force him to give special treatment to other people on the inside relay messages ect.

AgentNein:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

Promotional art is meant to give a feel for its characters and personality. A feel for what and who the character is. Its a stereotype drawing. While the clothing may or may not be in the game, its the iconography that gives you a feel for its personality. That's the entire point for GTA's art.

GTA always did it in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at the loading screen of GTA IV's gay character. Rockstar was never known for a non-stereotypical over the top character.

Does it matter if its in the game? No, not really. Does customization matter? No, since personality can't be customized in GTA. The art is there to convey a character's personality and role. Nothing else.

All of the character's artwork pointed to the stereotypical cholo. Its the same no matter what game.

Does it matter how nice Niko dresses? No, he will always be an eastern European who talks about the "old country."

Yeah, no. Pretty sure he's supposed to be black dude.

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That's a stereotypical California cholo. Anyone who has ever been to California or even played San Andreas would know that. Hell, anyone on the west coast would know that.

Besides, the screenshot itself shows he looks nothing like the promotional artwork because of the angle of his face and limitations on the artstyle. The main fault is the artist tries to capture the shininess of the character model. The artwork ended up making him darker with shading and shadows to make the shininess apparent.

If anything, his in game skin color closely resembles his left arm.

I'm guessing this means a more story based GTA. One with less side quests and more quests integral to a main story or goal. Like maybe the three try to set up big heists or the three find themselves converging at the same event.

Worgen:

Ultratwinkie:

Worgen:

This isn't stuff that is in the game, this is promotional art. There is a difference, plus given the customization you usually have with the outfits you were in gta games, chances are you can wear whatever the hell you want, including gang clothes.

Promotional art is meant to give a feel for its characters and personality. A feel for what and who the character is. Its a stereotype drawing. While the clothing may or may not be in the game, its the iconography that gives you a feel for its personality. That's the entire point for GTA's art.

GTA always did it in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at the loading screen of GTA IV's gay character. Rockstar was never known for a non-stereotypical over the top character.

Does it matter if its in the game? No, not really. Does customization matter? No, since personality can't be customized in GTA. The art is there to convey a character's personality and role. Nothing else.

All of the character's artwork pointed to the stereotypical cholo. Its the same no matter what game.

Does it matter how nice Niko dresses? No, he will always be an eastern European who talks about the "old country."

The more I look at that pic, the more I'm convinced your seeing something that isn't there. Why don't you point out exactly what it is about the clothes that not only make you think gang, but also make you think they are all hispanic, aside from which ever white guy is the white guy.

I said two are Hispanic. Not all 3. I said 2 because a leak said one of the characters is half Hispanic, which is the old guy. This is believable since Hispanics can be either very light or very dark.

The middle guy itself resembles a cholo the most. Cholos are not that hard to spot. Its basically a game of "spot the gang member."

stereotypically, in media and public perception, cholos look like this:

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The middle looks like a stereotypical cholo than anything else.

Are they using those horrid "cell-shading" in the character graphics? It looks like it, judging by that poster. Ugh. Worst graphical trend ever.

The Tall Nerd:

Gethsemani:
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few things wrong with statements

1 the protagonist in the ballad of gay tony was hispanic, and i believe one of the "stories " games,

2 it wouldn't be shoe horned in, you haven't even seen the damn story, they could have just replaced the guy on the right with a woman you wouldn't have ever known

and 3 what if they did shove a lady in there, so the f*** what, would your penis meter break

you calm down

1. What? I was saying I was hoping for a female protagonist. I didn't even mention ethnicity.

2. Is a terrible excuse. Writing a story to fit at least one female protagonist ain't that hard. Supposedly GTAV will run on an original script and won't be an "adaptation" of an already existing story.

3. What (again)? My penis meter? Might I suggest that you a) look at my profile and take a gander at my gender icon and b) read my first post again and practice some reading comprehension?

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