New York Museum Boasts 2,000-Year-Old Ancient Egyptian d20

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So I'm guessing Moses actually freed the slaves by rolling for initiative?

That is so freakin' cool. I love ancient Egypt so much. Now even more. For a while I wanted to become an Egyptologist.

Orlake:
...Maybe all their tomes,Book of the Dead etc, were just ancient rulebooks

That's a fun thought. Imagine if their entire religion and civilization was shaped to reflect their love for a tabletop RPG :D

I'm so happy about this; it's the first (albeit faint) indication that I'll have access to a time-machine at some point in my life....

DVS BSTrD:
So nerds ARE capable of reproduction!

Don't get too excited
We mostly reproduce asexually by infecting other people :)

Baldry:

1337mokro:

Baldry:
So instead of Dungeons and Dragons was it Pyramids and Sphinxes?

The mage in your party passed the Knowledge Arcane check.

He tells you that it would still be Dungeons and Dragons, or more like Tombs and Dragons.

The ancient Egyptians had allot of Dragons too.

They even had their own mythology featuring them like Apep, the dragon/snake that lay in wait to attempt to kill Horus every time he died and had to pass through the underworld, which was everyday at sunset. They explained the Red colour of the sun rising at dusk as the blood of that dragon being wounded and retreating.

What do you want to do next?

I use counter argument.

The thing about "Egyptian Dragons" is more often then not they're serpents, sure the ones with wings could be considered dragons but more then anything they're winged serpents. Also if you look at images of most Egyptian Gods that could be considered dragons they don't really look like dragons, some look like cats and some look like straight up snakes.

You failed the counter argument.

A passing clergyman hears your argument and quickly corrects you that dragons are simply great winged serpents with legs.

CardinalPiggles:
Well I'm obviously a descendant of the ancient Egyptians.

1337mokro:
the sun rising at dusk

What? I'm pretty sure the sun doesn't rise at dusk. You mean dawn right?

You got a critical hit.

You confirmed your crit.

You do 8 points of damage to your oppenents ego :P

Bad English mistake is bad :D

LittleThestral:

Grouchy Imp:
I wonder if this is a one of a kind or part of a Set...

The groans from this have left so many voices Horus.

I'll look up Greco-Egyption gaming habits, if you'll just give me Amunite.

It would be cool if the New York Museum made replicas for sale at the gift shop.

ForgottenPr0digy:

CrazyGirl17:
Neat! From what I can remember from a couple books I read, the Ancient Egyptians were big on games. Ever seen Yu-Gi-Oh?

You know, you could be permanently banned just for posting that video clip and nothing else.

1337mokro:

Baldry:

1337mokro:

The mage in your party passed the Knowledge Arcane check.

He tells you that it would still be Dungeons and Dragons, or more like Tombs and Dragons.

The ancient Egyptians had allot of Dragons too.

They even had their own mythology featuring them like Apep, the dragon/snake that lay in wait to attempt to kill Horus every time he died and had to pass through the underworld, which was everyday at sunset. They explained the Red colour of the sun rising at dusk as the blood of that dragon being wounded and retreating.

What do you want to do next?

I use counter argument.

The thing about "Egyptian Dragons" is more often then not they're serpents, sure the ones with wings could be considered dragons but more then anything they're winged serpents. Also if you look at images of most Egyptian Gods that could be considered dragons they don't really look like dragons, some look like cats and some look like straight up snakes.

You failed the counter argument.

A passing clergyman hears your argument and quickly corrects you that dragons are simply great winged serpents with legs.

I use Semantics. You're thinking of Amphiptere. While in the dragon family isn't actually a dragon, like you said a dragon has legs.

Baldry:

1337mokro:

Baldry:

I use counter argument.

The thing about "Egyptian Dragons" is more often then not they're serpents, sure the ones with wings could be considered dragons but more then anything they're winged serpents. Also if you look at images of most Egyptian Gods that could be considered dragons they don't really look like dragons, some look like cats and some look like straight up snakes.

You failed the counter argument.

A passing clergyman hears your argument and quickly corrects you that dragons are simply great winged serpents with legs.

I use Semantics. You're thinking of Amphiptere. While in the dragon family isn't actually a dragon, like you said a dragon has legs.

They are thus still part of the dragon family, the fact we have a Dragon Dragon and a Dragon Serpent doesn't really change much.

Consequently the dungeon master bitch slaps you and tells you to shut up and stop ruining the campaign.

:P

1337mokro:

Baldry:

1337mokro:

You failed the counter argument.

A passing clergyman hears your argument and quickly corrects you that dragons are simply great winged serpents with legs.

I use Semantics. You're thinking of Amphiptere. While in the dragon family isn't actually a dragon, like you said a dragon has legs.

They are thus still part of the dragon family, the fact we have a Dragon Dragon and a Dragon Serpent doesn't really change much.

Consequently the dungeon master bitch slaps you and tells you to shut up and stop ruining the campaign.

:P

It changes everything. A winged serpent will have different resistances to an actual Dragon. If we begin believing that these things are the same then what will the Wyverns and Drakes think!

*Considers playing street rules and flipping the table*

1337mokro:

Baldry:
So instead of Dungeons and Dragons was it Pyramids and Sphinxes?

The mage in your party passed the Knowledge Arcane check.

He tells you that it would still be Dungeons and Dragons, or more like Tombs and Dragons.

The ancient Egyptians had allot of Dragons too.

They even had their own mythology featuring them like Apep, the dragon/snake that lay in wait to attempt to kill Horus every time he died and had to pass through the underworld, which was everyday at sunset. They explained the Red colour of the sun rising at dusk as the blood of that dragon being wounded and retreating.

What do you want to do next?

That sounds more like a Religion or History check than an Arcana check. As a DM, I would only say that the Dice seem to not has an enchantment, and have only background magical powers.

You need to read up on your DnD my friend.

I want a replica of that, so freaking bad.

LyonLee:
please tell me that there are duplicates in the gift shop....

This, or we should letterbomb ThinkGeek into making these.

Cyrus Hanley:
It would be cool if the New York Museum made replicas for sale at the gift shop.

ForgottenPr0digy:

CrazyGirl17:
Neat! From what I can remember from a couple books I read, the Ancient Egyptians were big on games. Ever seen Yu-Gi-Oh?

You know, you could be permanently banned just for posting that video clip and nothing else.

I edited my post

Even then, the monk class were a tad overpowered...

This is probably the weirdest case of "I don't need it but I want one" scenario I ever had.

Hopefully there's replicas in the gift shop. :p

gaiusimperator:

1337mokro:

Baldry:
So instead of Dungeons and Dragons was it Pyramids and Sphinxes?

The mage in your party passed the Knowledge Arcane check.

He tells you that it would still be Dungeons and Dragons, or more like Tombs and Dragons.

The ancient Egyptians had allot of Dragons too.

They even had their own mythology featuring them like Apep, the dragon/snake that lay in wait to attempt to kill Horus every time he died and had to pass through the underworld, which was everyday at sunset. They explained the Red colour of the sun rising at dusk as the blood of that dragon being wounded and retreating.

What do you want to do next?

That sounds more like a Religion or History check than an Arcana check. As a DM, I would only say that the Dice seem to not has an enchantment, and have only background magical powers.

You need to read up on your DnD my friend.

It's Knowledge arcane because dragons actually exist and are ancient magical creatures, so I accept the check.

I have also never played DnD, it wasn't a big thing across the sea.

Ah yes, I believe this ancient dodecahedron was also discovered alongside several papyrus scrolls outlining the rules for an Egyptian High Fantasy game called "CEO's & Skyscrapers".

The following splatscrolls seem to indicate that players of this ancient, mysterious game could create characters of numerous fantastical races, such as White People, Black People, and really strange things like Irish People.

Time has obscured the rest of the rules pertaining to the fictional fantasy world of C&S. What sort of crazy lands did it contain? We will never know.

Mr.PlanetEater:
So I'm guessing Moses actually freed the slaves by rolling for initiative?

nah he just rolled really good on diplomacy and religion

THAT IS RIDICULOUSLY COOL.

Reminds me of XKCD's theory about the Voynich manuscript.

In this case, though, it's more likely someone just came up with a board game that worked better with 20 different possible outcomes per turn, and they didn't have the technology to make those plastic spinners a lot of modern board games use. As a board game geek, I hope someday we find out what it was.

Mike Kayatta:
Perhaps that explains this nifty ancient d20 straight out of Egypt's Ptolemaic period currently at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Okay, I couldn't think of just one joke for this, so here goes:

Pathfinder: Only the latest game in the long and rich history of the d20 system.

Gary Gygax: So revolutionary, he changed the history of gaming retroactively.

Wow! D&D really IS the most popular roleplaying system ever!

Obviously that die was to roll saving throws vs mummy curses.

...

....

Okay, I think I'm done now. Thank you. I'll be here all week.

So I tried to lay out a "blueprint" of sorts so I can see about having this custom-made.

I started out using this as a template and drawing the runes out by hand so I can get a rough idea of what this would look like.

That's when I realized that these two images don't show the entire die. There are eight sides not shown in these photographs.

There has to be more somewhere.

That is so cool! XD

Scrythe:
So I tried to lay out a "blueprint" of sorts so I can see about having this custom-made.

I started out using this as a template and drawing the runes out by hand so I can get a rough idea of what this would look like.

That's when I realized that these two images don't show the entire die. There are eight sides not shown in these photographs.

There has to be more somewhere.

The Metropolitan Collection has another D20 from the exact same time period at: http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-collections/100008376?img=0 I didn't compare to see if the symbols overlapped. But maybe clicking on the DICE heading or doing a search on DICE might help fill in your template.

ravensshade:

Mr.PlanetEater:
So I'm guessing Moses actually freed the slaves by rolling for initiative?

nah he just rolled really good on diplomacy and religion

I still think the DM fudged the roll for water parting.

Grouchy Imp:
I wonder if this is a one of a kind or part of a Set...

Aaahahahahah. Loving it.

Loving the die too. In fact, I love this whole thread. But especially you, for that post. And the die. (I wrote the die twice because of importance)

I want one.

Baldry:

I use counter argument.

The thing about "Egyptian Dragons" is more often then not they're serpents, sure the ones with wings could be considered dragons but more then anything they're winged serpents. Also if you look at images of most Egyptian Gods that could be considered dragons they don't really look like dragons, some look like cats and some look like straight up snakes.

"Dragons" do not have a 'set structure'. Dragons around the world vary from one another greatly. Original English dragons were great serpents before they ever depicted them with wings. Cockatrices were scaled roosters, but they too, were a dragon. The Tarrasque, made popular via D&D as a unique monster of mass destruction, was a French dragon (that died like a bitch, I might add). From the feathered wing serpents of South America to the Gargoyle, all of these are Dragons.

Grouchy Imp:
I wonder if this is a one of a kind or part of a Set...

My gods man... that was... that was so terrible... yet brilliant.

Clankenbeard:

Scrythe:
So I tried to lay out a "blueprint" of sorts so I can see about having this custom-made.

I started out using this as a template and drawing the runes out by hand so I can get a rough idea of what this would look like.

That's when I realized that these two images don't show the entire die. There are eight sides not shown in these photographs.

There has to be more somewhere.

The Metropolitan Collection has another D20 from the exact same time period at: http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-collections/100008376?img=0 I didn't compare to see if the symbols overlapped. But maybe clicking on the DICE heading or doing a search on DICE might help fill in your template.

Awesome find, my friend. It is the same symbols, but unfortunately they don't line up the same way as the one in OP's post. I'm just going to have to hunt down a full set of one die and work from there. Thanks anyways, though!

I'm skeptical about this. For one thing, why D20? Also, there is the possibility that it's a prank or something, and that seems a little more likely.

It's not on display because someone probably took it out for game night. They've had 2000 years after all to pre-roll the ones out of it. >:3

http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0099.html (see bottom of page for reference, also a very amusing comic though ^^)

DUNGEON DICE MONSTERS!!!

>_>

Duke Devlin?

anyone?..

...

I can't get over how well it's made. The faces are so flat and equal, the carvings are amazingly straight. Someone obviously put a tremendous amount of effort into making this. What did they use for the inlays? How did they achieve such perfect symmetry? It's inspiring.

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