Updated: McAfee AntiVirus Founder Wanted for Murder

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Shia-Neko-Chan:
What's important to note is that his dogs are all dead.

Whether or not they actually did do it, somebody did. I don't think it makes him a crazy person to just happen to be paranoid when coincidentally he becomes the prime suspect for somebody's murder very soon after.

Assuming he's innocent and that he's afraid for his life as a result of all the recent events, isn't his reaction reasonable?

He probably killed his own dogs.

OT: I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the obvious yet. The police obviously have never played Metal Gear Solid, otherwise they'd know that you always check under cardboard boxes.

Proclaiming his innocence? Yeah right, then why did he need an own personal armory?

Being so paranoid you keep a gun in your house is dodgy. Having enough to outfit a small army demonstrates being deranged. The kind of deranged who'd go and murder someone over some personal disagreement.

OK wai..wai..waitt

what the FLYING FUCK

Kopikatsu:

Shia-Neko-Chan:
What's important to note is that his dogs are all dead.

Whether or not they actually did do it, somebody did. I don't think it makes him a crazy person to just happen to be paranoid when coincidentally he becomes the prime suspect for somebody's murder very soon after.

Assuming he's innocent and that he's afraid for his life as a result of all the recent events, isn't his reaction reasonable?

He probably killed his own dogs.

OT: I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the obvious yet. The police obviously have never played Metal Gear Solid, otherwise they'd know that you always check under cardboard boxes.

We can't let the fact that he's a suspect for murder sway our decisions like that, though.

For now, I'll keep the view that people are innocent until proven guilty. This being the case, since there are more possible scenarios where somebody else killed his dogs than the one where he killed his dog, I'll have to say it's more probable that he didn't.

Some people are just afraid of the police and like I said before, his reaction would make sense if his dogs were all poisoned by somebody else.

Scrythe:

Ultratwinkie:

That depends, South American countries have long histories of death squads. They are often brutal, and some have the same training as American forces.

America hasn't used Death Squads in a while. They use drones now, which is military. Death squads in their normal form is obsolete.

Mexico is even worse, they take brutality to a whole new level. America just uses drones, they don't go out of their way to make someone suffer and then hang the mutilated body in public to serve as an example.

We don't kill people with people anymore, we kill them with remote-controlled robots now so that's totally not the same!

Ultratwinkie:

Which my point stands, Latin death squads wouldn't be fooled. They would have found him all the same.

Latin is a pretty big country, though. Plenty of places to hide. I mean, have you ever seen Latin?

Ultratwinkie:

Dogs? They aren't scared of dogs, no matter how many you have.

House security? They have military grade explosives and training. They will be long gone before the cops get there. They don't even need a key.

You're really playing up these "death squads" aren't you?

Ultratwinkie:

Guns? Any peashooter you manage to get will be outclassed by the military guns those squads have.

A gun that shoots bullets is a gun that shoots bullets. They can be deadly at any caliber. Just because it's "military" doesn't mean it's magically "better". Anyone who says otherwise watches way too many military films or plays too much realistic first-person shooters. All this talk about "my gun is better than your gun" reeks too much of the retarded filth spewed by those jackasses on The Deadliest Warrior, or Reba McEntire's character on Tremors ("You can't hit anything with that .30-30." You know, a basic huting rifle.).

Ultratwinkie:

If a South American country wanted him dead, he wouldn't even have time to prepare. He'd be dead by the next morning.

And yet "Most Wanted" lists still exist. Believe it or not, eluding capture is very possible, especially if you have a window of opportunity for a head start before anyone even knows you committed a crime.

I meant latin American deathsquads. I used latin for short.

They are the same as Cartels, which are not as weak as people think they are. Cartels DO have c4, and everything the American military has. Its not exactly hard to get, America passed them out to governments then stolen by anyone who comes by. They kill a lot of people, and have been for decades. They know what they are doing.

Secondly, death squads are NOT the same as a military squad killing enemies. They are OUTSIDE the government body, and have no laws bound to them. Drones are military, and are not death squads. Though there are people who argue they are, they are not. Unless Obama uses the drone to kill Mitt Romney to show his power, its not a death squad.

Death squads are used to repress a populace, and often in brutal ways to demoralize everyone else. To set an example. Its highly illegal.

Third, they use stuff on par or better than the north hollywood shooters. If two men can cause trained American cops so much trouble, what makes you think a lone nutcase can take on a whole squad? He can't. They have him out manned and outgunned.

Fourth, the purpose of making someone disappear is that the subject doesn't know you are doing it. He wouldn't have time to prepare because he wouldn't know an assassin was coming until it was too late. He wouldn't have any time to prepare because by the time he found the plot, he would already be dead.

Fifth, He is a NOBODY. He isn't some instigator of rebellion, he isn't a union leader, he isn't even a part of a cartel, he isn't even that well known or popular. He has no reason to think anyone would kill him unless he is MENTALLY INSANE. The same kind of insane that makes people believe Obama has a personal vendetta against them.

Blablahb:
Proclaiming his innocence? Yeah right, then why did he need an own personal armory?

Being so paranoid you keep a gun in your house is dodgy. Having enough to outfit a small army demonstrates being deranged. The kind of deranged who'd go and murder someone over some personal disagreement.

If having lots of guns constitutes violent insanity, then a LOT of people are psychopaths.

They poisoned his dogs? D:
Run McAfee run! Avenge your dogs T_T

Ultratwinkie:

I meant latin American deathsquads. I used latin for short.

Yes, dude, I know what you meant.

Ultratwinkie:

They are the same as Cartels, which are not as weak as people think they are. Cartels DO have c4, and everything the American military has. Its not exactly hard to get, America passed them out to governments then stolen by anyone who comes by. They kill a lot of people, and have been for decades. They know what they are doing.

Where the hell did you get that from? What bizzare part of the world do you live in where people assume drug cartels are in any way, shape, or form "weak"? Beverly Hills?

Ultratwinkie:

Secondly, death squads are NOT the same as a military squad killing enemies. They are OUTSIDE the government body, and have no laws bound to them. Drones are military, and are not death squads. Though there are people who argue they are, they are not. Unless Obama uses the drone to kill Mitt Romney to show his power, its not a death squad.

The literal definition of a death squad is "an armed military, police, insurgent or terrorist squad that conducts extrajudicial killings, assassinations, and forced disappearances." So you're saying that these "death squads" are a military but not a military? Your idea of what a death squad is sounds like you're combining the idea of mercenaries, wetworks, and The Expendables all rolled into some kind of bizarre Michael Bay film that plays on loop in your head.

Also, that "Obama using a drone against Romney" thing is not only a terrible analogy, but absurd as well.

Ultratwinkie:

Death squads are used to repress a populace, and often in brutal ways to demoralize everyone else. To set an example. Its highly illegal.

I know a frakkin' death squad is, mate. I also know what it isn't, and it's not The Expendables.

Ultratwinkie:

Third, they use stuff on par or better than the north hollywood shooters. If two men can cause trained American cops so much trouble, what makes you think a lone nutcase can take on a whole squad? He can't. They have him out manned and outgunned.

First of all, you contradicted yourself with that analogy involving the N. Hollywood shooting. Seriously, reread that: If these two guys can give the authorities a hard time, what makes you think one man can give the authorities a hard time?

Speaking of which who's the lone nut "taking on the world"? What the sam hill are you raving about? Some dickhead is on the run from authorities, that's all. This isn't James Bond, calm the hell down.

Ultratwinkie:

Fourth, the purpose of making someone disappear is that the subject doesn't know you are doing it. He wouldn't have time to prepare because he wouldn't know an assassin was coming until it was too late. He wouldn't have any time to prepare because by the time he found the plot, he would already be dead.

You just went full Tinfoil Hat Mode on me here. This has nothing, literally nothing to do with what you're talking about. I have no idea why you have this idea in your head that an alleged murderer on the run from police is somehow this big cinematic showdown that incorporates black-op shadow assassins with access to cutting-edge military hardware. Is it because it takes place in a South American country that you automatically assume all this, or did you recently watch a History Channel documentary about Death Squads and suddenly it's all about Death Squads with you?

Ultratwinkie:

Fifth, He is a NOBODY. He isn't some instigator of rebellion, he isn't a union leader, he isn't even a part of a cartel, he isn't even that well known or popular. He has no reason to think anyone would kill him unless he is MENTALLY INSANE. The same kind of insane that makes people believe Obama has a personal vendetta against them.

And yet you still keep bringing your Death Squad insta-assassin guys who are so badass that they can Spetsnaz you to death before you even blink. I still don't even know why you brought that up, or what it has to do with this particular situation.

Some lone nut that may or may not have murdered someone in cold blood is suspiciously running form the police and may or may not be making shit up. Let's just stick with the facts, alright? Please? Without resorting to references to South American Death Squads or analogies involving political figures that do not factor into this one way or another.

Oh, and one last thing: That comment I made about you're misuse of the word "Latin" was done in a manner colloquially known as "sarcasm". Latin America refers to such a broad and gigantic sector of the world, that's it's rather insulting that you consider that a "simplification". Here's an analogy that actual fits with what I'm saying: This would be like if I regarded all of Africa as if it were a single, solitary culture with a single, solitary language.

Scrythe:

Ultratwinkie:

I meant latin American deathsquads. I used latin for short.

Yes, dude, I know what you meant.

Ultratwinkie:

They are the same as Cartels, which are not as weak as people think they are. Cartels DO have c4, and everything the American military has. Its not exactly hard to get, America passed them out to governments then stolen by anyone who comes by. They kill a lot of people, and have been for decades. They know what they are doing.

Where the hell did you get that from? What bizzare part of the world do you live in where people assume drug cartels are in any way, shape, or form "weak"? Beverly Hills?

Ultratwinkie:

Secondly, death squads are NOT the same as a military squad killing enemies. They are OUTSIDE the government body, and have no laws bound to them. Drones are military, and are not death squads. Though there are people who argue they are, they are not. Unless Obama uses the drone to kill Mitt Romney to show his power, its not a death squad.

The literal definition of a death squad is "an armed military, police, insurgent or terrorist squad that conducts extrajudicial killings, assassinations, and forced disappearances." So you're saying that these "death squads" are a military but not a military? Your idea of what a death squad is sounds like you're combining the idea of mercenaries, wetworks, and The Expendables all rolled into some kind of bizarre Michael Bay film that plays on loop in your head.

Also, that "Obama using a drone against Romney" thing is not only a terrible analogy, but absurd as well.

Ultratwinkie:

Death squads are used to repress a populace, and often in brutal ways to demoralize everyone else. To set an example. Its highly illegal.

I know a frakkin' death squad is, mate. I also know what it isn't, and it's not The Expendables.

Ultratwinkie:

Third, they use stuff on par or better than the north hollywood shooters. If two men can cause trained American cops so much trouble, what makes you think a lone nutcase can take on a whole squad? He can't. They have him out manned and outgunned.

First of all, you contradicted yourself with that analogy involving the N. Hollywood shooting. Seriously, reread that: If these two guys can give the authorities a hard time, what makes you think one man can give the authorities a hard time?

Speaking of which who's the lone nut "taking on the world"? What the sam hill are you raving about? Some dickhead is on the run from authorities, that's all. This isn't James Bond, calm the hell down.

Ultratwinkie:

Fourth, the purpose of making someone disappear is that the subject doesn't know you are doing it. He wouldn't have time to prepare because he wouldn't know an assassin was coming until it was too late. He wouldn't have any time to prepare because by the time he found the plot, he would already be dead.

You just went full Tinfoil Hat Mode on me here. This has nothing, literally nothing to do with what you're talking about. I have no idea why you have this idea in your head that an alleged murderer on the run from police is somehow this big cinematic showdown that incorporates black-op shadow assassins with access to cutting-edge military hardware. Is it because it takes place in a South American country that you automatically assume all this, or did you recently watch a History Channel documentary about Death Squads and suddenly it's all about Death Squads with you?

Ultratwinkie:

Fifth, He is a NOBODY. He isn't some instigator of rebellion, he isn't a union leader, he isn't even a part of a cartel, he isn't even that well known or popular. He has no reason to think anyone would kill him unless he is MENTALLY INSANE. The same kind of insane that makes people believe Obama has a personal vendetta against them.

And yet you still keep bringing your Death Squad insta-assassin guys who are so badass that they can Spetsnaz you to death before you even blink. I still don't even know why you brought that up, or what it has to do with this particular situation.

Some lone nut that may or may not have murdered someone in cold blood is suspiciously running form the police and may or may not be making shit up. Let's just stick with the facts, alright? Please? Without resorting to references to South American Death Squads or analogies involving political figures that do not factor into this one way or another.

Oh, and one last thing: That comment I made about you're misuse of the word "Latin" was done in a manner colloquially known as "sarcasm". Latin America refers to such a broad and gigantic sector of the world, that's it's rather insulting that you consider that a "simplification". Here's an analogy that actual fits with what I'm saying: This would be like if I regarded all of Africa as if it were a single, solitary culture with a single, solitary language.

Actually, here.

I see people say Cartels are weak and use outdated weapons from 50 years ago. Usually Europeans on this site often misunderstanding the drug war in R&P.

Its not tinfoil hat to say that assassins kill you without you noticing something is wrong until it all goes down. Its their job.

Hell, any search will bring up hundreds of these stories. All the same, high powered weapons and with security. Are you seriously going to tell me a guard dog is better than actual bodyguards?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/world/americas/04mexico.html?_r=0

They'll just shoot the dogs along with you. They wouldn't bother "prepping" you by poisoning your dogs. They'll just kick the door down and shoot you, just like any Latin assassination always does.

If that Police Chief in Mexico KNEW that cartels would shoot him in his sleep, would he still sleep? Would the Cartel even let him KNOW in any way? Hell no. Its purpose of a death squad is to DENY it not to go around and taking credit. Letting the target KNOW is taking credit.

I doubt anyone aside from an Egomaniac or an idiot would broadcast who they will kill. They don't WANT their target to prepare at all. It makes it easier.

The lone nut taking on the world is the Mcafee founder himself. Even his neighbor said he was behaving violently and stockpiling guns. if that isn't some lone nut thinking the world is against him, I dunno what is. Hell, he believes in a government conspiracy that is after him. That is stereotypically a nutcase.

Which doesn't do ANYTHING to my original point:

He is insane for believing the government is after him. He even said that the government has been trying to kill him for a while. So what does he do? He turns around and says its the nicest place on earth and no plans of leaving. Its the government, in a region known for its military suppression and assassination. They don't NEED laws to take him down.

If the government was really after him, which they aren't, digging a hole and hiding in it won't help. You cant take a page out of the minecraft starter book and pretend it works on government agents.

Governments do not go after random people. They are not easily fooled if they truly want your ass. They aren't there because of some government vendetta conspiracy, its his lunacy that makes him believe that.

Governments preoccupy themselves with actual people of importance. If he isn't a union leader or some uber rich tycoon with a strangelhold over a whole country, they wouldn't bother to specifically target him.

Which is my original point: He is bat shit insane because of the reasons I pointed out. Unless he is James Bond, he wouldn't know about a government conspiracy. The thing about conspiracies is that they tend to be secrets. A good secret wouldn't be known by anyone.

Its a point stated time and time again in this thread. He is nuts. He has left our reality. He is over the moon. His mental health has ceased to be. Need I say more?

It shouldn't be this hard to figure out the reasons why his fear of a government vendetta is unfounded. Even if he was right of a plot against him, NONE of his "security measures" would even hold up in the event of a real attack on his property.

And lastly, death squads are equipped LIKE a military, but are not military. If a woman carries a taser, do you automatically assume she is a cop? No.

Mcafee can't do what the North Hollywood shooters did. They relied on better equipment and armor. Something Mcafee CANNOT afford or can't get. He doesn't have the money to afford all the security he wants. There is a reason drug cartels can afford guns regardless of gun control.

Not only that,In Belize civilians are not allowed to possess all assault rifles, automatic and semiautomatic firearms, rifles of calibre greater than 7.62 mm or 0.30 inch, sawed-off rifles or shotguns, shotguns of barrel length 21 inches or less, rifled shotguns, handguns of calibre greater than 9mm or .38inch, armour-piercing ammunition, silencers, or extended handgun magazines.

Hell, even body armor is restricted.

trty00:
If having lots of guns constitutes violent insanity, then a LOT of people are psychopaths.

Looking at laws that legalise murder under many circumstances, like the castle doctrine etc, I'd say that's at least true in the moral sense.

My gosh......Yeah, this guy is nuts.

If they catch him, I heard that his trial is only going to last 30 days, hey-o!

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