Scars Unseen:
MUTUAAAAAAL KOMBAAAAAT!

FIGHT!

maybe the cops did beatbox the theme!

Hey, both had declared fisticuffs. I think it's appropriate that if we can have sanctioned PROFESSIONAL sports involving grown adults beating the ever loving shit out of each other for money, regular joes should be allowed to agree to the terms of a simple bout so long as no weapons are involved.
I.E.
I'm okay with this.

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Beautiful End:
It also makes me wonder if he either has no life or if he's incredibly dumb to go and try to change the world, one criminal at a time.

I dont think his point is to change the world, i think the reason he does the videos of it suggest that it is to show the world that you CAN help the world be better, if only you tried hard enough. If hes at it alone, we will consider it dumb. but then, shouldnt we consider police dumb? they too are triyng to better the world one criminal at a time, its just that there are more than 1 police officer. see where im getting?

Daniel Genseric:
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

i agree that i sounds simplistic and dumb, but itsm erely overcompensation for hundreds of years of white people dominance. white people ahve been going into blac communities and asimilating long before we banned slavery. its just that the extent wasnt so big. thing is, us, white people, dont WANT to go to africa. they WANT to go here. (now i know a LOT of white people that moved to Japan and live there so you cant really say that japan dont accept white people) only few people i know that went to africa, but most people wouldnt want to go there even for a holiday. and the reaosn is simple - political isntability.

California needs this law asap.
Our jails are too overcrowded as it is with minor drug offenders to hold people caught after the average scuffle.

Shit, I can think of many situations where I would have invoked this.

gigastar:

Im not sure if MMA has anything to deal with it, though.

I'm not sure if that was serious, but yeah. A little.

Wonder if Jones would complain if he was locked in a hold without advancing....

AzrealMaximillion:
The last time Phoenix Jones was talked about on the Escapist people were trashing him (then he was breaking up a multi person fight and wound up pepper spraying those who attacked him. People then tried to run him over in a car Jones was arrested for assault, quite pitifully I might add). Now its flipped as soon as he beats up a racist.

To be fair, the "racist" part is pretty much superfluous here. They're cheering him on because he challenged someone to "mutual combat."

This turns a vigilante from a prick to a hero, because FIGHT!

Twilight_guy:
"Superhero" implies superpowers. Hero is just a generic term for people who do heroic things. He's not quiet either. I purpose a new term: Costumed hero!

Really because i've already proposed a new name for essentially everyone involved in this video "dumb-arses."

Am I the only one uncomfortable with a costumed mad man wandering the streets look for a fight?

Daniel Genseric:

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

The fact that you had to ejaculate your white privilege over a video involving men dressed up as superheroes makes the silliness of this all the sweeter.

Trying to imagine what would have happened if he had styled himself after The Punisher.

When that guy took his shirt of, it was priceless. You know when the shirt comes of, shiznit just got real.

Wee need more people that can beat the crap out of other people patrolling the streets as vigilantes, everywhere. And they should also have the right to bust a move on someone on the grounds of them being an a-hole. Seriously pissed that no one has laws against being an a-hole, since basically that's where a lot of the behavior or practices that are illegal come from.

Mr.Tea:
Holy shit!

This is the same guy I saw back in may when I was in Seattle!

Looks like he really can fight...

Wow, he has a team now? I've missed a lot. And that luchador in the pimp suit looks fun :D

Eh mutual combat is all well and good until someone pumped up on the adrenaline goes to far and beats their defeated opponent to death. Or until hospitals are filled with injured combatants, resulting in longer waits for people who haven't deliberately decided to injure someone/get injured.

Really, even though Jones showed restraint, if that guy had fallen badly and hit his head he could've died still.

While vigilantes are considered "cool" by the public, there are reasons why you don't see them very often
1. It can go ugly very fast (collateral damage is real concern even amongst law enforcement)
2. It takes special kind of crazy to dress up and walk around in a "costume"- even if the guy is "good"
3. It's dangerous- in reality guns are surprisingly effective against masked heroes
So while I want to like vigilantes, I don't support such approach

CryoSynth:
Eh mutual combat is all well and good until someone pumped up on the adrenaline goes to far and beats their defeated opponent to death. Or until hospitals are filled with injured combatants, resulting in longer waits for people who haven't deliberately decided to injure someone/get injured.

Really, even though Jones showed restraint, if that guy had fallen badly and hit his head he could've died still.

Well this "mutual combat" is just police discretion by a different name, and in this case they probably should have stepped in asap as they most definitely know this Phoenix Jones.

Daniel Genseric:
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Y'all know white folks can live in Africa and Asia right?

gigastar:
That poor fool lost the moment he tried to imitate Jones' fighting style.

He probably would have been better off rushing in and trying to grapple him..

Yup, always remember the simple rule: if they kick and punch, decrease the distance. If they grab and grapple, increase the distance.

Although seeing how Jones has some serious experience, he's probably way better at controlling the field than his opponent.

all i could think of is 'our valued customers', and all the entries they have on people declaring 'I could totally kick wolverine/thor/batmans ass.'

Best. Law. Ever.

...I can't be the only one that thought of that scene in Kick-Ass where he saves he guy from the muggers while everyone else just watches.

My state is such a shining example of progressive idealism.

I like it.

Why did he take his mask off? Did the cops make him?

Is it wrong I played Guile's theme when the fighting started?

AzrealMaximillion:
Who's to say that the guy wouldn't have sucker punched Jones as he backed off? That guy knew he was screwed after the second kick to his leg. And to be fair to Jones they guy "gave up" at 7:15 of the video. Jones decked him at 7:17.

So you're saying it's fair to suckerpunch someone who has given up and dropped their guard if there's a possibility they're only pretending to surrender?

To me, an experienced professional fighter dominating a rowdy amateur (both physically and with verbal taunts) until he gives up, and then proceeding to rough him up for good measure, just seems like a dick move. If not criminal assault, as it would be classed in most countries (or states, even).

Vigilantism is a can of worms in its own right, too.

Dire Sloth:
The guy that rips his shirt off reminds me of Scrappy Doo, only he's not a puppy, and he's a colossal douche.

Okay, I only see ONE difference between them.

James Joseph Emerald:

AzrealMaximillion:
Who's to say that the guy wouldn't have sucker punched Jones as he backed off? That guy knew he was screwed after the second kick to his leg. And to be fair to Jones they guy "gave up" at 7:15 of the video. Jones decked him at 7:17.

So you're saying it's fair to suckerpunch someone who has given up and dropped their guard if there's a possibility they're only pretending to surrender?

To me, an experienced professional fighter dominating a rowdy amateur (both physically and with verbal taunts) until he gives up, and then proceeding to rough him up for good measure, just seems like a dick move. If not criminal assault, as it would be classed in most countries (or states, even).

Vigilantism is a can of worms in its own right, too.

I'm trying to look up the law now. I don't know what the conditions are to end the fight. In "Fight" by Eugene S. Robinson, there's an account of a Brazilian Jiujitsu student who killed a man but wasn't charged because the fight was "mutual combat."

Either way, I think Phoenix was well within his rights to finish the fight that his opponent was begging for.

James Joseph Emerald:

AzrealMaximillion:
Who's to say that the guy wouldn't have sucker punched Jones as he backed off? That guy knew he was screwed after the second kick to his leg. And to be fair to Jones they guy "gave up" at 7:15 of the video. Jones decked him at 7:17.

So you're saying it's fair to suckerpunch someone who has given up and dropped their guard if there's a possibility they're only pretending to surrender?

To me, an experienced professional fighter dominating a rowdy amateur (both physically and with verbal taunts) until he gives up, and then proceeding to rough him up for good measure, just seems like a dick move. If not criminal assault, as it would be classed in most countries (or states, even).

Vigilantism is a can of worms in its own right, too.

You can call it a sucker punch all you want, but if you think that getting decked within 2 seconds after dropping your hands in a fight is unfair, that tells me you've probably haven't been in a lot of fights. Growing up in the inner city I can tell you, the "honourable fight" is a feel good idea.

Most fights are not fair. This was not the UFC or boxing, and the cops fully expected a KO from one side. Its not like Jones wound up for a haymaker either. It was a quick shot to the jaw. The punch came so quickly after the guy saying, "I give up", the whole sucker punch argument is negligable.

A better example would have been if Jones had hit the guy while his guard was down a for a few seconds and not just barely a second and a half like in the video. Calling it that a sucker punch is really reaching here.

ProtoChimp:
Why did he take his mask off? Did the cops make him?

Hiding your identity with a mask is technically illegal, they probably did ask him to take it off.

OT:This reminds me of the rapper know as "The Game" videotaping himself beating another rapper up whilst recording it with his iPhone in one hand while slugging the guy with the other. That video was like watching a 1st person match of Fight Night.

sweet I'm gonna dress up in my super villain costume and go sell drugs now, and run red lights (sinister laugh)

AzrealMaximillion:
You can call it a sucker punch all you want, but if you think that getting decked within 2 seconds after dropping your hands in a fight is unfair, that tells me you've probably haven't been in a lot of fights. Growing up in the inner city I can tell you, the "honourable fight" is a feel good idea.

Oh yeah?! Well I grew up in a quiet suburb in a country which is 90% agricultural farmland. And, well, I was going to turn that into an ironic joke, but now that I think about it, it's really fucking dangerous where I live. We've had several murders, including a gang-related assassination, several drug busts, one of my friends was nearly killed when randomly attacked with a glass bottle, and two more of my friends were beaten and mugged by four scumbags right outside their house.

Though I'll concede I've never been in a real fight.

Then again, I don't think you can really call the fight in that video "real" either. Not that it was staged, but real fights certainly don't look like that.
This was more of a "duel", which seems a bit more subject to rules of fairness. Especially if done within the law.