Wii Mini Disappoints

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Same name as something popular? check.
Cheap? check.
Shitty hardware? check.
Shitty feature set? double check.

Everything points to this being an absolute success. I wouldn't bet against it.

thiosk:
Component only with no Internet? Dd I get that right, not even wi if? No reason to own. No wii ware and virtual arcade. Ugh.

Actually, it's not even component. It's composite-only according to the article. Component would take the res up to 480p and the Wii Mini will only do 480i.

chuckey:
I really don't know what kind of crowd Nintendo was trying to appeal to with this.

Not us, that's really about all that needs to be said.

This is obviously targeted at a demographic that does not include or overlap with gamers.

In an interview they listed it as a cheap gaming device marketed at the "cottage crowd", for something to shove in your cottage to pass some time now and then. Or for the very young kids, stripping out the internet and making it "more safe" for them.

Regardless, I don't know why everyone gets so upset over Nintendo's every new model of anything. The outrage and disgust that was expressed when the DSi XL was first announced still rings in my ears.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. As was pointed out, the basic Wii is fairly cheap as is still, so gamers have affordable options. And the fact that this thing was only released in a test market should hint at something.

I'm not entirely sure what everyone was expecting here.

If you buy a budget, cut-price model of any electronics appliance, it's going to come with only the barest modicum of features. If I buy an iPod Nano over an iPod Touch or an iPhone, should I be upset that it doesn't come with wi-fi, the ability to download apps or browse the internet? I don't think so. If I buy a budget Android tablet, should I be upset it doesn't have same ability to run games as a Tegra-3 equipped tablet? Not really.

I mean, what do you expect for $99? That really is dirt cheap as far as consoles go, so you can't expect anything other than dirt cheap performance. It's not like Nintendo are trying to replace the Wii with this thing. They're still selling regular models at $150 or so. The Mini is supposed to be a bottom of the rung model that provides basic functionality at a cut-throat price. Buying one expecting it to have all the same functionality is like buying a Ford Focus and expecting it to have all the power and speed of a GT40. They both say Ford on the bonnet, but they're aimed at entirely different markets, and made for entirely different purposes.

I will buy a Wii sometime next year when they're about 50$, but I want GameCube support and the Virtual Console too.
I can't figure out who is this thing's target audience.

"might just be the first time Ninty's missed the mark."
Virtual Boy anyone? Plus their many attempts at a good online service over decades?

But how is this news?
Already read about all the limitations and omisions last week on Ars. :\

thiosk:
Component only with no Internet? Dd I get that right, not even wi if? No reason to own. No wii ware and virtual arcade. Ugh.

Strazdas:

Arcadian Legend:

Strazdas:

please tell me this was a joke.

what did you expect, nintendo was nintendon't for the last 10 years, you want them to actually do something good for a change?

Huh? I can undetrstand the Wii, but what exactly did the Gamecube do wrong?

Gamecube was fine, Gamecube games on the other hand....

1) 480i only, not 480p so I am guess that means it still uses the component cables (the PS2 did for 480i).

2) ...were amazing compared to Wii games. The Thousand Year Door vs Super Paper Mario, Wind Waker vs Skyward Sword, Pikmin 2 vs Stuck in development hell, I even prefer the island setting of Mario Sunshine to the disjointed setting of planetoids in Galaxy, Mario Party games on Gamecube vs Mario Party games on the Wii, etc...

The Wii was a major letdown both in the hardware area and in the software area. The Gamecube had great hardware and great first party games. It was lacking in third party games but so was the Wii.

Crono1973:

thiosk:
Component only with no Internet? Dd I get that right, not even wi if? No reason to own. No wii ware and virtual arcade. Ugh.

Strazdas:

Arcadian Legend:

Huh? I can undetrstand the Wii, but what exactly did the Gamecube do wrong?

Gamecube was fine, Gamecube games on the other hand....

1) 480i only, not 480p so I am guess that means it still uses the component cables (the PS2 did for 480i).

2) ...were amazing compared to Wii games. The Thousand Year Door vs Super Paper Mario, Wind Waker vs Skyward Sword, Pikmin 2 vs Stuck in development hell, I even prefer the island setting of Mario Sunshine to the disjointed setting of planetoids in Galaxy, Mario Party games on Gamecube vs Mario Party games on the Wii, etc...

The Wii was a major letdown both in the hardware area and in the software area. The Gamecube had great hardware and great first party games. It was lacking in third party games but so was the Wii.

Really? I actually think Wii games were an improvement over GC ones. SS has way better gameplay than Windwaker. Galaxy is by far better than Sunshine. Wii also has ports of Metroid games, so it has all three, Pikmin too. Then we had the awesome Donkey Kong country returns and a new way of playing FPS and party games.

As a owner of both CG and Wii I prefer the Wii by far, even considering GC had my beloved 007 Nightfire (but it wasn't exclusive). Except for design, Game Cube is the most beautiful console ever made.

Anoni Mus:

Crono1973:

thiosk:
Component only with no Internet? Dd I get that right, not even wi if? No reason to own. No wii ware and virtual arcade. Ugh.

Strazdas:

Gamecube was fine, Gamecube games on the other hand....

1) 480i only, not 480p so I am guess that means it still uses the component cables (the PS2 did for 480i).

2) ...were amazing compared to Wii games. The Thousand Year Door vs Super Paper Mario, Wind Waker vs Skyward Sword, Pikmin 2 vs Stuck in development hell, I even prefer the island setting of Mario Sunshine to the disjointed setting of planetoids in Galaxy, Mario Party games on Gamecube vs Mario Party games on the Wii, etc...

The Wii was a major letdown both in the hardware area and in the software area. The Gamecube had great hardware and great first party games. It was lacking in third party games but so was the Wii.

Really? I actually think Wii games were an improvement over GC ones. SS has way better gameplay than Windwaker. Galaxy is by far better than Sunshine. Wii also has ports of Metroid games, so it has all three, Pikmin too. Then we had the awesome Donkey Kong country returns and a new way of playing FPS and party games.

As a owner of both CG and Wii I prefer the Wii by far, even considering GC had my beloved 007 Nightfire (but it wasn't exclusive). Except for design, Game Cube is the most beautiful console ever made.

I could understand you liking Galaxy better than Sunshine but saying Skyward Sword is better than Wind Waker is complete nonsense. Counting ports seems pretty dishonest so let's not.

As for sexy consoles, I am going to say something VERY unpopular. The NA SNES is sexy to me, always has been.

Escapist: I had to refresh about 20 times to get a captcha that wasn't an advertisement. I refuse to type ad slogans. It's insulting enough to have to put up with captchas just to post, no other forum that I visit does this.

Crono1973:

Anoni Mus:

Crono1973:

1) 480i only, not 480p so I am guess that means it still uses the component cables (the PS2 did for 480i).

2) ...were amazing compared to Wii games. The Thousand Year Door vs Super Paper Mario, Wind Waker vs Skyward Sword, Pikmin 2 vs Stuck in development hell, I even prefer the island setting of Mario Sunshine to the disjointed setting of planetoids in Galaxy, Mario Party games on Gamecube vs Mario Party games on the Wii, etc...

The Wii was a major letdown both in the hardware area and in the software area. The Gamecube had great hardware and great first party games. It was lacking in third party games but so was the Wii.

Really? I actually think Wii games were an improvement over GC ones. SS has way better gameplay than Windwaker. Galaxy is by far better than Sunshine. Wii also has ports of Metroid games, so it has all three, Pikmin too. Then we had the awesome Donkey Kong country returns and a new way of playing FPS and party games.

As a owner of both CG and Wii I prefer the Wii by far, even considering GC had my beloved 007 Nightfire (but it wasn't exclusive). Except for design, Game Cube is the most beautiful console ever made.

I could understand you liking Galaxy better than Sunshine but saying Skyward Sword is better than Wind Waker is complete nonsense. Counting ports seems pretty dishonest so let's not.

As for sexy consoles, I am going to say something VERY unpopular. The NA SNES is sexy to me, always has been.

Escapist: I had to refresh about 20 times to get a captcha that wasn't an advertisement. I refuse to type ad slogans. It's insulting enough to have to put up with captchas just to post, no other forum that I visit does this.

Well, I played WW after SS and I found it that was going a step backwards. If ports doesn't count, you still have Metroid prime 3, and the other metroid not very well liked...

Hey it's the same colors as a previous Nintendo console.
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Oh god...
I guess that explains a lot.

Anoni Mus:

Crono1973:

Anoni Mus:

Really? I actually think Wii games were an improvement over GC ones. SS has way better gameplay than Windwaker. Galaxy is by far better than Sunshine. Wii also has ports of Metroid games, so it has all three, Pikmin too. Then we had the awesome Donkey Kong country returns and a new way of playing FPS and party games.

As a owner of both CG and Wii I prefer the Wii by far, even considering GC had my beloved 007 Nightfire (but it wasn't exclusive). Except for design, Game Cube is the most beautiful console ever made.

I could understand you liking Galaxy better than Sunshine but saying Skyward Sword is better than Wind Waker is complete nonsense. Counting ports seems pretty dishonest so let's not.

As for sexy consoles, I am going to say something VERY unpopular. The NA SNES is sexy to me, always has been.

Escapist: I had to refresh about 20 times to get a captcha that wasn't an advertisement. I refuse to type ad slogans. It's insulting enough to have to put up with captchas just to post, no other forum that I visit does this.

Well, I played WW after SS and I found it that was going a step backwards. If ports doesn't count, you still have Metroid prime 3, and the other metroid not very well liked...

You have Metroid Prime 1 and 2 on the Gamecube and Other M is certainly not better than any Metroid game on the Gamecube. What about Wind Waker feels like a step back?

Wow, I usually stick up for Nintendo cos they get a lot of unwarranted hate... But I don't even know what they were thinking here.
No wi-fi wasn't a dealbreaker for the lowered price, this thing just isn't worth it though.

This coming from someone who reckons his DSiXL was a huge improvement from his DSlite, owns two Wiis and generally thinks Nintendo is still doing well.

Collectors item. It looks odd, it's gone to be only released in Canada, and barely anyone wants a Wii, let alone anyone with knowledge could pick up a Wii used for cheaper, or get the bundle which comes with a better model of Wii and a 50$ game. So, that means a small niche market. Resulting in a low ammount of these existing. And in the world of collectors, even if it's crap, as long as it's rare, it's most likely worth something.

Crono1973:

thiosk:
Component only with no Internet? Dd I get that right, not even wi if? No reason to own. No wii ware and virtual arcade. Ugh.

Strazdas:

Arcadian Legend:

Huh? I can undetrstand the Wii, but what exactly did the Gamecube do wrong?

Gamecube was fine, Gamecube games on the other hand....

1) 480i only, not 480p so I am guess that means it still uses the component cables (the PS2 did for 480i).

2) ...were amazing compared to Wii games. The Thousand Year Door vs Super Paper Mario, Wind Waker vs Skyward Sword, Pikmin 2 vs Stuck in development hell, I even prefer the island setting of Mario Sunshine to the disjointed setting of planetoids in Galaxy, Mario Party games on Gamecube vs Mario Party games on the Wii, etc...

The Wii was a major letdown both in the hardware area and in the software area. The Gamecube had great hardware and great first party games. It was lacking in third party games but so was the Wii.

@2. yes, and comapred to N64 games they were awful. altrough i woudl agree with WII being Nintendos demise....

1. It has no internet.

My response: The Wii barely had internet to begin with and most Wii games don't use wifi anyway.

2. It doesn't support component cables.

My response: If we really cared that deeply about a barely perceptable difference in visual quality, do you think we'd be playing on the Wii to begin with?

3. It's not much smaller.

My response: The Wii is a console. What were you planning to do, keep it in your pocket? Ya, I know it has the word "mini" in it's name, but lets get real here. The real highlight of this thing was the price. It's not the Wii's size that was driving people away.

Strazdas:

@2. yes, and comapred to N64 games they were awful. altrough i woudl agree with WII being Nintendos demise....

And what a lucrative demise it was.

OlasDAlmighty:
1. It has no internet.

My response: The Wii barely had internet to begin with and most Wii games don't use wifi anyway.

2. It doesn't support component cables.

My response: If we really cared that deeply about a barely perceptable difference in visual quality, do you think we'd be playing on the Wii to begin with?

3. It's not much smaller.

My response: The Wii is a console. What were you planning to do, keep it in your pocket? Ya, I know it has the word "mini" in it's name, but lets get real here. The real highlight of this thing was the price. It's not the Wii's size that was driving people away.

Strazdas:

@2. yes, and comapred to N64 games they were awful. altrough i woudl agree with WII being Nintendos demise....

And what a lucrative demise it was.

1) The lack of internet locks out the Virtual Console. The Virtual Console is where most of my Wii time went (along with Gamecube games which it also can't play).

2) I care about component cables because I want the best picture possible.

3) It's not much smaller and therefore doesn't really fit the name "Mini".

4) It's pricetag is a joke. It isn't worth $99 when you can get a full featured refurbished model for $79 from Gamestop. I would imagine prices are similar in Canada.

http://www.gamestop.com/wii/consoles/nintendo-wii/64004

or if you like, you can get a new model (without Gamecube support but with Internet and 2 games) for $129. I would imagine prices are similar in Canada.

http://www.gamestop.com/wii/consoles/nintendo-wii-black-wii-sports-sports-resort-bundle/105818

There is no way this is priced properly, it should be $49.

So, Nintendo's idea of quality Christmas entertainment is trolling Canada, eh? Well-played, Nintendo. Well-played.

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