NRA Likens Videogames to "the Filthiest Form of Pornography"

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So it has come to this...

We will not forget this transgression, NRA.

SacremPyrobolum:

Gizmo1990:
I just watched his statment on the news, the BBC, who are (mostly) unbiased were taking the piss out of this guy and shaking their head at the all the stupid coming from him. How can anyone buy this crap? Seriously please tell me that most Americans do not buy this. Most of the Americans I have talked to on The Escapist have been cool, you guys don't buy this right?

Could you link me to that video if you can? I would love to see it!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20815130

There is so much stupid it makes my head hurt. I truly feel sorry for Americans as they have to live in a Country wher people like this are able to influence politics.

Is there an organization that supports the Second Amendment that hasn't gone full retard? I'd like to join them.

MikeWehner:
"Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?"

Erm..... *Cough*

I take it the NRA doesn't spend much time on the internet.

.....Cause I've seen some shit.

Just because I used a video game to kill a man does not mean anything!
Video games don't kill people, I do!

I wish I was a member of the NRA for the sole purpose of being able to call and cancel...whatever the hell it is you get for being a member of the NRA.

With that said, I can be proud that most news outlets are giving them a big fat slab of "Seriously? Are these guys serious here? This guy can't seriously be telling us that violent video games are what makes people murder a classroom full of kindergartners. Are we being Punked or something?".

Falterfire:
What, more than ALL of the Middle East, Africa, and Mexico? REALLY? By a large percentage? Do you have numbers somewhere? Because we'd have to be having a massacre every week just to keep up with Syria alone I think.

I believe that he refer to the countries that do not categorize as having a civil war inside. Mexico's Drug War can be considered as a civil war, Syria is a civil war, most places in Africa do have a long history of civil war. The US, not so much, and it's homicide rate is much higher than any other country that is not in a civil war itself.

OT: Okay, now the NRA goes into my list of American Hypocrisy.

So the NRA is relying on people being stupid and uninformed. It's a good strategy. The only flaw in that strategy is that last year video games have been officially protected under the first amendment. Good effort though. But if history thought us anything, it's that eventually the good guys win, because people just get tired of being used and lied to.

Scars Unseen:
Do you hear that? That's the sound of the NRA throwing us under the bus.

And zero fucks were given.

Well, given the the NRA are generally the worst kind of 'gun people' I doubt anyone takes what they say seirusly, especially the bit about removing 'no gun' zones, cause that go over real well

Yeah... the NRA seems to be becoming like the KKK. However instead of blacks these people target games at their weekly duke nukem 3d burning

Yanks man... yanks... Seriously Americans I get you're not all like that, but can you get these guys to shut up? They are driving down the collective IQ of the planet every time they open their mouths.

People not understanding a medium they did not grow up with? That has been happening ever since the invention of cinema, it will go away when these people die out in the coming years. In the future almost everything that became popular in the 80's and 90's will be accepted due to people growing up with it.

I don't even.... What?

GUNS ARE BAD! Their main purpose is to kill things. Outlaw them.

VIDEO GAMES ARE GOOD! Their main purpose is too entertain people. Enjoy them.

Is it that fucking hard for people to comprehend this?!

Mr.K.:
This is why people think most Americans don't have all their nuts in one basket, or in his case any nuts at all.

The amount of stupidity that one man can utter truly astounds me.

As an American citizen may I add this?

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD IT IS HERE.

The filthiest form of pornography? Obviously they've not seen the websites I go to...

Damn it Wayne! It's not the video games' fault that this happened. I'm a member of the NRA and this is the wrong thing to come out and say. That guy was messed up in the head. Hell, for all we know, the games were the only thing that kept him in check for as long as he was. Video games don't cause crime, criminals do. All of the NRA members I know also play games. This probably isn't indicative of the majority of the membership, but it's true just the same. They also(myself included) aren't dangerous. They practice good gun safety, and generally just target shoot and hunt deer. That said, games aren't some virtual reality murder training seminar. Most play to blow off steam or experience a story as part of the dramatis persona. Yes, some people are more serious than that, but some people are that way about model kits, comic collecting, squeezing every last drop of power of their computer, and yes, their gun collection. It's called a hobby, Wayne. I know you want to deflect some of the criticism aimed at us gun owners, and you should. But aim the criticism at the real culprit(the horrible state of the American mental healthcare system) and not at the popular red herring that is video games.

Thinking of just secluding myself, or atleast finding an extension which blocks any sort of real life news that comes out of America. I'm sorry guys, but I'm just starting to lose faith in humanity with all the horse shit going on over there.

Well, I do like my pornography filthy.

I think the NRA, which is going to be vilified no matter what, should have just laid low for a while until people were more rational. Instead it has lashed out and tried to make everyone look worse. This is not going to fix the hate against them (nothing but time will), but it is going to make them plenty of new enemies. This was a dumb move.

Obvious political bandwagon is obvious.
School shooting occurs, politicos blame video games instead of the actual perpetrator (the psycho(s) who went on a murder spree) because they need to wash their hands of any social negligence in order to pin it on something convenient.

Same goddamn song and dance I've seen most of my life.

I especially love this nugget. One of the American classics, for sure.

There'll be time for talk and debate later. This is the time, this is the day for decisive action.

We can't wait for the next unspeakable crime to happen before we act. We can't lose precious time debating legislation that won't work. We mustn't allow politics or personal prejudice to divide us. We must act now.

"Act now, and don't question what or why."

Yeah, this is sensationalist bullshit on par with CNN punditry; a complete appeal to pathos without an ounce of logic behind it.

I'm not losing sleep over their statement, though it saddens me that there are people; a lot of people, who will eat this shit up on the spot.

I am a filthy filthy human being.

*Typed while sitting down after a wonderful breakfast with my wife*

Atmos Duality:
Obvious political bandwagon is obvious.
School shooting occurs, politicos blame video games instead of the actual perpetrator (the psycho(s) who went on a murder spree) because they need to wash their hands of any social negligence in order to pin it on something convenient.

Same goddamn song and dance I've seen most of my life.

I especially love this nugget. One of the American classics, for sure.

There'll be time for talk and debate later. This is the time, this is the day for decisive action.

We can't wait for the next unspeakable crime to happen before we act. We can't lose precious time debating legislation that won't work. We mustn't allow politics or personal prejudice to divide us. We must act now.

"Act now, and don't question what or why."

Yeah, this is sensationalist bullshit on par with CNN punditry; a complete appeal to pathos without an ounce of logic behind it.

I'm not losing sleep over their statement, though it saddens me that there are people; a lot of people, who will eat this shit up on the spot.

So very correct.

theevilgenius60:
Damn it Wayne! It's not the video games' fault that this happened. I'm a member of the NRA and this is the wrong thing to come out and say. That guy was messed up in the head. Hell, for all we know, the games were the only thing that kept him in check for as long as he was. Video games don't cause crime, criminals do. All of the NRA members I know also play games. This probably isn't indicative of the majority of the membership, but it's true just the same. They also(myself included) aren't dangerous. They practice good gun safety, and generally just target shoot and hunt deer. That said, games aren't some virtual reality murder training seminar. Most play to blow off steam or experience a story as part of the dramatis persona. Yes, some people are more serious than that, but some people are that way about model kits, comic collecting, squeezing every last drop of power of their computer, and yes, their gun collection. It's called a hobby, Wayne. I know you want to deflect some of the criticism aimed at us gun owners, and you should. But aim the criticism at the real culprit(the horrible state of the American mental healthcare system) and not at the popular red herring that is video games.

Then email/call/write him and tell him to knock it off. You're a member, and it's your responsibility to stand up to crap like this. If they don't change, it becomes your responsibility to stop giving them money.

I hope they have plenty of mouthwash to wash the taste of foot out of their mouths.

Ronack:
Let's look at some interesting fact:

Violent Videogames in Europe: Yes
Gun Violence in Europe: Minimal

Violent Videogames in America: Yes
Gun Violence in America: Accounts for the vast majority of the world's percentage in violent deaths due to guns.

NRA: 0 - Ronack: 1

Should say that America counts of the vast majority of western violent gun deaths and if you discount drug wars (Mexico) and civil wars (Syria and parts of Africa) going on most violent gun deaths period.

delroland:

theevilgenius60:
Damn it Wayne! It's not the video games' fault that this happened. I'm a member of the NRA and this is the wrong thing to come out and say. That guy was messed up in the head. Hell, for all we know, the games were the only thing that kept him in check for as long as he was. Video games don't cause crime, criminals do. All of the NRA members I know also play games. This probably isn't indicative of the majority of the membership, but it's true just the same. They also(myself included) aren't dangerous. They practice good gun safety, and generally just target shoot and hunt deer. That said, games aren't some virtual reality murder training seminar. Most play to blow off steam or experience a story as part of the dramatis persona. Yes, some people are more serious than that, but some people are that way about model kits, comic collecting, squeezing every last drop of power of their computer, and yes, their gun collection. It's called a hobby, Wayne. I know you want to deflect some of the criticism aimed at us gun owners, and you should. But aim the criticism at the real culprit(the horrible state of the American mental healthcare system) and not at the popular red herring that is video games.

Then email/call/write him and tell him to knock it off. You're a member, and it's your responsibility to stand up to crap like this. If they don't change, it becomes your responsibility to stop giving them money.

Oh don't worry, I did. It was a more cordial version of what I wrote here(no "dammit Wayne"). I pay dues for them to keep the second amendment intact, not to have them misrepresent me(them being the spokesmen, lobbyists, etc.).

Ronack:
Let's look at some interesting fact:

Violent Videogames in Europe: Yes
Gun Violence in Europe: Minimal

Violent Videogames in America: Yes
Gun Violence in America: Accounts for the vast majority of the world's percentage in violent deaths due to guns.

NRA: 0 - Ronack: 1

You forgot:

Violent Videogames in Canada: Yes
Culture most in similarity: USA
Media consumption most in similarity: USA
Gun control laws: Yes
Gun Violence in Canada: Minimal

Wasn't the whole point of Natural Born Killers about the media glorifying violence? At least a strong theme in it. I don't know, just seems sorta funny that he would be using that movie as an example. As far as the whole issue is concerned, I don't see movies or games or whatever capable of turning anyone into a psychopath, aside from those who already would've been one anyway. And I don't see why people are so uptight about stricter rules for owning something which the sole purpose of is to kill.

Arslan Aladeen:
Wasn't the whole point of Natural Born Killers about the media glorifying violence? At least a strong theme in it. I don't know, just seems sorta funny that he would be using that movie as an example. As far as the whole issue is concerned, I don't see movies or games or whatever capable of turning anyone into a psychopath, aside from those who already would've been one anyway. And I don't see why people are so uptight about stricter rules for owning something which the sole purpose of is to kill.

1) NBK is a work of fiction, and so using it to argue a point on gun violence is pretty silly. That being said,

2) Even disregarding point (1) above, the question remains: in the movie, had the media not followed the Knox' rampage, would they still have gone on a killing spree? I personally think yes.

Does this mean that because I spent the day playing Far Cry 3 that I have a serious fetish for killing animals and skinning them alive to fashion sexy bandoliers for myself?

As a gun enthusiast, the NRA is full of shit. They stopped being reputable some time ago, and many gun owners are jumping ship and joining organizations that focus on liberty and the law, instead of focusing on getting assholes that happen to like guns elected.

Captcha: Know your rights. Fitting.

Ah, the good old 'video games muder simulator' arguement again is it? Well fear not chaps, since we all know playing a video game of something is exactly like doing it in real life, I'll use the Expert, World Class Legal, Detective and Forensic Pathology skills I gained after playing a couple of Ace Atourney games and put the kibosh on this whole thing

Gun-toting retards call video games bad. Oh noes, whatever shall we do when judged by the least reasonable people in the world after fundamentalists and the WBC?

MikeWehner:

"Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?"

Well, that's certainly an interesting way of putting it.

Hmm. I can't picture anyone at a shooting range doing something like that. It would have to be those guys playing those "cover based shooters" which feature realistic models of automatic lead spitters. Or Mass Effect, Diablo and Angry Birds!

Seriously, though, the NRA is throwing up some really poor excuses this time around. Nothing like "We need to instill better responsibility with firearms, that it's not a tool of empowerment or a toy as so many people are thought to believe." If they weren't so intent on trying to find another scapegoat they might actually have earned some cred.

ThriKreen:

You forgot:

Violent Videogames in Canada: Yes
Culture most in similarity: USA
Media consumption most in similarity: USA
Gun control laws: Yes
Gun Violence in Canada: Minimal

This. But really, what can we expect from an organization who probably doesn't realize that there may be civilization on the other side of the US borders.

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