Amazing Spider-Man Ends With Issue #700

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Amazing Spider-Man Ends With Issue #700

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The fifty year run of Spidey's comic ends today, making room for the Marvel NOW! relaunch of Superior Spider-Man in January.

Spoiler Warning: This article contains spoilers for Amazing Spider-Man #700.

As part of their Marvel NOW! initiative, Marvel comics has published the final issue of Amazing Spider-Man, featuring the death of Peter Parker - Spider-Man is dead. Issue 700 culminates the story arc that began a hundred issues ago, when it was discovered that longtime spider-man foe Doctor Octopus had a terminal illness. A hundred issues later, Doctor Octopus has stolen Peter Parker's body, leaving Peter in Doc Ock's dying husk, and Doc Ock/Spider-Man defeats Peter in his own body.

It's official, Doc Ock is the new spider-man. He's going to have a new book next year, titled Superior Spider-Man.

"This is Moriarty in the head of Sherlock" said Dan Slott, the writer on Amazing Spider-Man. Slott says the interesting part is what comes now, because Doc Ock is going to realize what Peter Parker has been teaching folks all along - with great power comes great responsibility. Doctor Octopus is going to be getting a new lease on life, and because he's saddled with Peter's memories, he's saddled with Peter's conscience. "It's also what the good part of our first year on [Superior Spider-Man] is about: Doc behaving in a manner he's not accustomed to. We see a more sympathetic side of Doctor Octopus."

The book's ending has opened up a flood of criticism from fans, but Slott remains optimistic. "How do you get more Peter Parker than that? Now the readers think he's a menace. That's exciting. On a meta-level, that is Spider-Man."

Source: USA Today

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"This is our answer to the age old question as to how we're going to make something worse than One More Day" said Dan Slott, the writer on Amazing Spider-Man.

I am so waiting to see Linkara and Bob reaction to that. =p

Come on, when was the last time a supposedly 'dead' Superhero (or Villain) actually stayed dead?

"So, we need some way for getting more money from fans..."
"Let's get rid of Peter Parker as Spiderman again!"
"Yay! 'Cos that worked so well last time!"

The name "Superior Spider-Man" doesn't sit too well on the tongue, there's no rhyming and no flare to the name.

I... what?

This is why I can't get into superhero comics. I just can't. The story sounds ridiculous, like a soap opera that's taken some bad acid, and the marketing is just... I mean, nothing's ending here, is it. It's not like Marvel are stopping production on Spider-Man comics. All that they're doing is swapping one of the words out of the title, and replacing it with another. The story's the same, the characters are all the same, it's just a different word in the title.

I would actually love it if one of the major comic publishers actually had the balls to end one of their franchises. Just to show that they have some creativity, and they're not completely craven to the need to keep trying to please fanboys. I doubt that'll happen though. Marvel and DC have ruthlessly kept comics as the medium for superheroes, and as long as people still give them money, they'll continue to do so.

Bah... I'm gonna go read Maus again. At least there are some comics that don't feel the need to stick in costumed superheroes.

Is this going to be like when Hal Jordan became Parallax again? Because it sure seems like that's what the fall out from this one is going to be. I mean really? Whatever I give it a few weeks before Peter Parker is somehow resurrected and they have to reboot the whole thing all over again.

Ronack:
"This is our answer to the age old question as to how we're going to make something worse than One More Day" said Dan Slott, the writer on Amazing Spider-Man.

There will be nothing as worse as One More Day.

Nothing.

OT: ...What?

The neighborhood friendly Spidy has been going through some really weird shit, hasn't he?

Who is the person running Marvel who keeps saying 'You know what? One More Day wasn't stupid enough. We need to go further into the depths of sheer idiocy.'?

Because they need to be set on fire.

iniudan:
I am so waiting to see Linkara and Bob reaction to that. =p

Linkara already did. He said that he gives it six months.

Wait what? Sure that whole switching body arc is fine for an story arc but to have a permament effect (well is sound like it will be long) will be hard to chew.

I mean will the kids or other non comicbook fans will accept Doc Ock as the main hero now? Even then I don't think Spidy friends from the Avengers, Fantastic Fours and other will like the idea that his foe is now him unless they are unaware of it. (Boy can Doc Oct keep up the wise crack like Peter did?)

Lastly, how exactly will Doc be any different seeing how he has Peter Parker past memories so he is just living out as him therefore he is not really Doc Ock (personality wise) anymore?

Maybe I just overthinking about this since this is comicbook death I'm talking about where 99% (if the character popular or not) will just end up coming back to life anyway, loosing the sense of any lost to it.

I'm calling it now... secret relaunch of the Clone Saga

hang on guys...
there's a pharse on the tip of my tongue...
oh yeah!!!
COMICS
ARE
WEEEIIIIIRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!

Sums it up pretty well...

Crazy nonsensical tripe like this is why I don't read comics.

I'll be surprised if this gimmicky plot line lasts more than 12 issues.

and this is why i stick to judge dredd.

Uh-huh.

Sorry, I can barely supress a yawn here, this seems like typical comic-book marketing garbage right now. It seems like every couple of years they are "ending" a popular hero, or doing something "contreversial" or whatever to get some attention and sales. The status quo is always eventually restored back to the basics with only minor changes remaining unless your dealing with some spin off universe to begin with.

When it comes to Spider-Man there is a huge fan base of Peter Parker accross multiple generations, combined with a huge merchandising empire, including multiple movie continuities, cartoon shows, and everything else. The status quo will return here eventually, simply because it would be marketing suicide otherwise. At the same time, in the short term they can sell a lot of comic books as nerds buy the issue to see "oh my gawd, this can't be real" even if they hadn't bought the books for a while. At most I'd guess they are going to milk it for 100 issues on a fairly rapid release schedule. What's more the whole "Amazing" title is just one of Spidey's "main universe" title lines, he's one of those characters who is so popular that he's actually headlined multiple cooncurrant series (Spectacular, Web Of.. etc...).

I take this about as seriously as the whole "modernization" angle, which simply lead to the "Ultimate Universe" being put in it's own little secondary continuity. Sort of like Marvel's version of "Wildstorm" (which itself recently died).

Or perhaps more accuratly, like one of the DC "Crisis" events which are actually bigger. DC likes to periodically blow up their entire continuity and promise lasting, practical, changes. Other than some origin reboots (or combinations of popular origin stories where you have a lot of them), plans to do things like limit the speed of The Flash, reing in Superman's Power level, and similar things go the way of the dodo before too long as the characters pretty much turn back into what they were before. It's one of the reasons why I think the new version of "Superman" they have been touting is kind of offensive, missing the point of the character, but I can't get myself too excited about it because I figure he'll be more or less back to normal in a year or so after the "event" ends (tops) since he's endured being written a specific way for so long for a number of very solid reasons. :)

To be honest, I kind of blame fandom. Marvel is playing "follow the leader" to the crap DC pulled. We turned "The Death Of Superman" and "Knightfall" into these legendary events, which involved legendary sales, and now because we got into it, every single time some penny pincher thinks they need more money, they do incrasingly stupid things. "Doc Ock and Spider Man switching bodies" sounds like it could be a good plot for a couple of issues, but only something a person truely detached from reality would think should entail a major event, or threaten to make permanant.

On some levels I do hope they DO make it permanant, sending perhaps one of the most popular, famous, and profitable super heroes ever into the wastepaper basket of history would serve the industry right.... and honestly we DO need more fat super heroes. :)

Happy Peter Parker Is Dead Day, everyone! The never-ending descent of his life into misery and woe, the endless butchery of his character, watching everyone he knows and loves die, turn evil, or both... it's all over! Now we can all sit back, relax, and know Peter Parker has gone to his final reward... an eternity in Hell for making a deal with the devil. Cheers!

This is what's going to happen:

Doc Spider will go through a sort of 'puberty'.
-5 issues

It will be revealed that Peter Spider is actually still INSIDE HIS OWN MIND. Think 'Stargate Gu'old' type of deal.
-10 issues

Over time Peter Spider will start retaking his own body/mind back from Doc Spider.
-10 issues

Doc Spider, having lived with a consensus for the first time in his life, will allow Peter Spider to take control.
-5 issues

After a few issues, and some emo bullshit, Peter Spider will get the help of some random hero/villain to clone Doc Spider into a new (cancer free) body.
-10 issues

The new Doc Oc will now be more like 'The Punisher' in that he's a good guy, with a dark edge.
-10 issues

After all this...
MARVEL REBOOT!
New DC 52 Style!

I doubt this is gonna last. Worst case scenario is that Doctor Octopus will have the mantle for a year at most but then Peter Parker is gonna be back in the costume and trading Yo Mamma slurs with Deadpool as he used to.

What is this whole Marvel NOW! thing anyway? The title sounds really stupid.

As much as I hate this whole new 'twist', I will give Marvel respect if they stick to it and keep Peter dead.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
I... what?

This is why I can't get into superhero comics. I just can't. The story sounds ridiculous, like a soap opera that's taken some bad acid, and the marketing is just... I mean, nothing's ending here, is it. It's not like Marvel are stopping production on Spider-Man comics. All that they're doing is swapping one of the words out of the title, and replacing it with another. The story's the same, the characters are all the same, it's just a different word in the title.

I would actually love it if one of the major comic publishers actually had the balls to end one of their franchises. Just to show that they have some creativity, and they're not completely craven to the need to keep trying to please fanboys. I doubt that'll happen though. Marvel and DC have ruthlessly kept comics as the medium for superheroes, and as long as people still give them money, they'll continue to do so.

Bah... I'm gonna go read Maus again. At least there are some comics that don't feel the need to stick in costumed superheroes.

Marvel is owned by Disney and DC is owned by Warner and both are classed by there owners as part of there respective market research departments.

Which is why I can't understand why they don't go nuts with actually killing characters or doing true reboots by abandoning all the continuity as it's not like it matters money wise what with any single film making more money than either DC or Marvel have made in last 2 decades or so.

Just look at the sales for super hero comics if Marvel had 74 comics selling at $4 an issue at those rates (rather than falling every year as they are) for 10 years that's less revenue than just the Avengers film.

(source The Beat http://comicsbeat.com/september-sales-dcs-zero-month-gets-a-bump-marvel-has-trouble-breaking-60k/)

Here's the sales bands for Marvel books.

100K+: 1
50-59K: 8
40-49K: 4
30-39K: 23
20-29K: 24
10-19K: 14

And for DC

100K+: 2
80-89K: 2
70-79K: 2
60-69K: 5
50-59K: 8
40-49K: 8
30-39K: 11
20-29K: 12
10-19K: 22

One day a long time ago, I decided to get into comics. Having loved the 90s Spiderman cartoon, I figured that would be a natural place to start. Looking through the comic store, I came across a particular Spiderman episode #0. Perfect, I thought as I ran and paid for the issue and took it home....

Then I read it...

Peter Parker was a hobo who couldn't pay for a cup of coffee, a clone took his spot and married Mary Jane and he himself was almost killed by the clone.

That day my young self said, "Fuck comics!" and I never looked back.

This day, I am reminded of my complete lack of regret over that decision.

I hadn't had the chance to read the book yet, but I knew Peter wasn't going to be starring anymore after 700. Decided I'd check this article anyway. Oh my god.

I've been actively reading Spider-Man for 12 years (I'm 19 now). I am exactly what Marvel as a company wanted and needed; the fan who would pick up any Spider-Man book they sold purely because it was Spider-Man, no matter how fucking terrible they were (and oh god, have there been loooong stretches of fail). I read OMD and I didn't like it, but never did the thought cross my mind that I'd stop buying the book.

That is to say I was. Never have I seen something so unbelievably stupid, idiotic or fucking terrible.

Marvel expects me to be fine with them not just killing my favorite character (I don't mind a character's death, you just make it something glorious, Ultimate Spider-Man as a series, whether you cared for it or not [I adored it], had a death that was fitting and fucking amazing), but replacing him with one of the greatest monsters to have ever lived. Not 13 issues ago (in a story that was directly tied to this one) did Doctor Octopus act out a plan wherein he had planned to MURDER EVERYONE ON THE PLANET (barring 0.08% of the world's population, having him live on in infamy, never to be forgotten by the very few who would be left behind [he says he'd eclipse even Hitler, direct name drop]). What the fuck. In this day and age that'd be like Marvel yelling out "Hey everyone, Captain America had been murdered and had his soul replaced with Osama Bin Laden's! You should read about Osama's new adventures!", hell, Godwin's law has already been shat on so let's go with what they're actually doing "Spider-Man has been replaced by someone who has tried (and claimed) to be WORSE THAN HITLER, so you should all buy our new book; SPIDER-HITLER!".

Marvel. You've actually managed to make the one Spider-Man book that I will not buy. Congratulations. This is a task that would eclipse even convincing the world's Sonic Fans that the games are shit now.

I'm aware that this is something that will never last, but it's one of those things where it makes it so I'm not sure I'll ever start reading it again, even afterwards.

Tanis:
This is what's going to happen:

Doc Spider will go through a sort of 'puberty'.
-5 issues

It will be revealed that Peter Spider is actually still INSIDE HIS OWN MIND. Think 'Stargate Gu'old' type of deal and they'll fight it out, with Doc Spider, having lived with a conscience for the first time in his life, allowing Peter to take control.
-7 issues

Edited yours a bit with ye olde copy/paste. Slott spoke of the first year of books. This is how I see that entire "first year" going down.

EDIT: Just ran out to buy the book. First off I'm not believing the total heel-turn that was there at the end. Second, it's clear that they don't expect this shit to last, like, at all; they've blatantly left shit open at the end so that they can easily change back when this fails.

Haven't read marvel comics in ?? well a long time but why would't Parker's try and get help from the fantastic four or the avengers if he found himself in a situation like this?

Yup, Peter Parker is dead. Just like Captain America, Bruce Wayne, and Johnny Storm are all dead.

I give it a year before he's alive again and the status quo is restored. At the longest, Peter will be back in action when the next spider-man movie comes out for tie-in purposes.

I'd say this is the dumbest Spider-Man plot ever, but, well, it's really not even close to the depths of dumb they've hit with him before...

Space commando 75:
I Haven't read Marvel comics in a long time but why wouldn't Parker try and get help from the fantastic four or the avengers if he found himself in a situation like this?

The story going is that Doc Ock has stolen his body and they both have all of each others memories (which lead to an admittedly funny scene where Peter was plumbing the doctor's memories and found one where the doc is literally fucking his Aunt). If he did try to go to them they'd both be making an identical case.

There's also a ticking clock variable where the doctor's body is about to fail entirely (organs actively failing, his useless body being on life-support), leaving Peter MAYBE a couple of hours, so he's instead fallen onto a lot of ock's plans to break him out and the like (calling upon a plan to make the Sinister Six again with some other villains breaking him out).

I rolled my eyes reading the first parts of it, but even then you'd think he'd still be able to bring the situation to them and get a telepath to read both their minds (this being comics there are of course a shitload of readily available telepaths).

EDIT: Read the book, in it Ock (in Peter's body), secretly activated a bunch of his old robots and had them attack around the world to draw away all the people who would have sorted this crap out.

Yeah, this is why I don't read comic books. So Doc Ock took over his body and... what?

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
I... what?

This is why I can't get into superhero comics. I just can't. The story sounds ridiculous, like a soap opera that's taken some bad acid, and the marketing is just... I mean, nothing's ending here, is it. It's not like Marvel are stopping production on Spider-Man comics. All that they're doing is swapping one of the words out of the title, and replacing it with another. The story's the same, the characters are all the same, it's just a different word in the title.

I would actually love it if one of the major comic publishers actually had the balls to end one of their franchises. Just to show that they have some creativity, and they're not completely craven to the need to keep trying to please fanboys. I doubt that'll happen though. Marvel and DC have ruthlessly kept comics as the medium for superheroes, and as long as people still give them money, they'll continue to do so.

Bah... I'm gonna go read Maus again. At least there are some comics that don't feel the need to stick in costumed superheroes.

I hear ya I actually do read some comics but I can't help but face palm constantly. They are always wondering why they can't keep numbers up but then go and stop a series change the name and continue the story. You know how confusing as fuck that is to follow if your getting into comics. Not only will they be putting out number 1's that are not that start of the story but they are expecting their fans already to know they the title and numbering are changing and it isn't actually ending.

You know, sometimes when something awesome happens in mainstream comics, I wonder why I stopped reading them. Then I see this shit going on, and I am reminded why I escaped to creator-owned/niche comics in the first place. :D

Who seriously thinks this is going to stick? If you believe Peter Parker's going to stay dead long than a year, I have a bridge to sell you too.

Now, NOVA being replaced by some hipster Skrillex-listening teen who needs his mom's permission to fight crime? That's a change I fear might stick...

Me and a friend have been speculating for a while now that Peter Parker will return because the Doctor "Rewrote brain patterns" rather than swapping minds, and as such Peter Parker will eventually resurface.

Wow... I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is kind of interesting. As a huge Spider-man fan, I've got to say that rehashing the same-old stories in slightly different ways (Yes, the Spider-man / Symbiote story was interesting the first time, but has gotten tiresome since with Toby McGuire leading the way of suck) is pretty old hat. If they've got a Doc Ock with some of Spider-man's morality, trying to live in his shoes... you've got yourself a pretty interesting story especially if it is to stay.

Money is the name of the game, which is why they keep bringing back Superman, Batman, Hal Jordan... but we're not really losing Spider-man, he was just technically replaced a little bit. Like if "The Last Son of Krypton" had completely replaced Superman after his death. Kind of interesting.

Plus... we've got all the other series to keep on watching pure Spider-man. Peter Parker will probably make an actual return, but if he does I would prefer a Clone storyline instead of a complete backup to where we were.

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