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Seduce Me Makes It - UPDATED

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Despite being given the red light by Steam Greenlight, the "erotic strategy game" Seduce Me is now available for purchase.

Back in September of 2012, the sexually-explicit strategy game Seduce Me was removed from Steam Greenlight for being, well, sexually explicit. Greenlight's terms of service forbids "offensive content" and while it doesn't get into what specifically qualifies as offensive, it's a fair bet that "Pietra greets you in a steamy sauna. She's unashamedly ***** ********** and over her *********" meets the criteria.

There was a not-entirely-unreasonable assumption that the Greenlight ban would likely spell the end of the project and developer No Reply Games, but nobody ever went broke selling sex and so it is that the now-completed game is up for sale via its own website. It lists for €12.99 - about 17 bucks - for the game alone, or €14.99 for the game and the four-song soundtrack.

At that price you aren't likely to get a triple-A gaming experience, but you will apparently get "erotic cut scenes, lavishly painted event images [and] five mini-games based on real world card games," all of which you will enjoy during your exploration of an exotic Mediterranean mansion and the four "seduce-able" characters who reside therein.

The promotional trailer and screenshots are pretty silly, but the game clearly deserves its AO (Adults Only) ESRB tag for "strong sexual content, nudity, strong language [and] use of drugs." It didn't necessarily earn it, however; No Reply is based in The Netherlands, which doesn't actually use the ESRB rating system, and because the game isn't being sold in stores it doesn't need the rating anyway. And if you go poking through the ESRB database, you'll find that Seduce Me isn't even listed. Surely No Reply wouldn't be using the infamous AO rating for its own PR purposes - or would it?

In any event, if you want to check this thing out in all its non-Greenlighted glory, you may do so at seducemegame.com. Fair warning: There's no sexually explicit content on the site, but your mom might not appreciate you looking at it anyway.

UPDATE: No Reply has been in touch to assure us that the ESRB rating for Seduce Me is legitimate. I still can't find it on the ESRB website but a copy of the rating certificate, issued on November 23, 2012, is available in PDF format here.

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So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but this almost feels like an advertisement for it seeing as the price, content and link are included.

I know this doesn't have much to do with the article at hand, but I think most of the west (especially North American and the UK) should relax a little more about sex in general.

I'd, personally, kind of like seeing AO games on steam.

I have to say, if all it takes to get advertising on Steam (and by proxy, this and other websites) is to pay 100 bucks even though you aren't expecting to get in, then make a big fuss about not getting in, then it's not a bad deal.

Escapist, you've been taken in and you're advertising for them without getting paid. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

So I guess the rejection from Steam was exactly the kind of publicity they needed for the game. Now we play the waiting game and see if it's remotely successful or not.

Andy Chalk:

In any event, if you want to check this thing out in all its non-Greenlighted glory, you may do so at seducemegame.com. Fair warning: There's no sexually explicit content on the site, but your mom might not appreciate you looking at it anyway.

i am not quite sure, but wasnt even blurred out lady and gentlemen parts also in the sexually explicit boat?
if so, dont check the images or you might get blind....

anyways, its just one of the random "dating" sims only this time from outside japan.
and with less to none tentacles or rape.

the colouring is impressive only their hairstyles look like glued on wigs.

edit:

i only wish this would show up in retail.

imagine the faces of the mothers, who brought that game for their sweetie pie sons and ignored the aduld ersb warning and highlighted words like "this game contains explicit scenes of money shots, rim jobs and deep deepthroating..."

Legion:
So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but this almost feels like an advertisement for it seeing as the price, content and link are included.

To be fair, articles like this get hits. It is a pretty reasonable thing to do.

OT- Can't they be sued for using the ESRB's symbols without their permission? I thought the ESRB was pretty crazy about their copyrights.

Hmm. The 'cinematic' in question looks to just be several croppings of the same picture splayed around with some (probably hilarious) text, judging from the preview images. I doubt it's worth any money... It looks just like those dating sim games you'd find on the newgrounds of 2005.

Bought and played the game. To no surpise, I liked the game. The writing is just right. The scenarios are interesting. "If" your curious, let me know and I'll fill you in. :P

But the puzzles are far from easy in the beginning. You can get "used" to them, but you will rarely if ever get a perfect streak.

I will say this, the game makes the men look more like a sexual object than women, so if some say that women are "objectified" in the game, they never played it. -_-
It's like those parents blaming Mass Effect 3 for the shooting.

Ok #1 - So THIS can get made, but an MMO about the Warhammer 40K universe cant?

I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.

#2 - This justifies Anita Sarkeesian's entire project.

Just sayin'.

The problem with banning sex games, is the same as with banning violent games. It sounds good on paper, but as soon as you ban a kind of content, then along with the mindless, disgusting panderings, you will inevitably end up banning art that happens to involve showing sex/violance.

Gothproxy:
#2 - This justifies Anita Sarkeesian's entire project.

Just sayin'.

Sex games have existed since the '80s.

If this existing would have justified Sarkeesian's project, then Sarkeesian's project would have been justified all along.

rhizhim:

Andy Chalk:

In any event, if you want to check this thing out in all its non-Greenlighted glory, you may do so at seducemegame.com. Fair warning: There's no sexually explicit content on the site, but your mom might not appreciate you looking at it anyway.

i am not quite sure, but wasnt even blurred out lady and gentlemen parts also in the sexually explicit boat?
if so, dont check the images or you might get blind....

anyways, its just one of the random "dating" sims only this time from outside japan.
and with less to none tentacles or rape.

the colouring is impressive only their hairstyles look like glued on wigs.

A dating game without any tentacle rape?! those crazy westerners! what will they think of next?

Gothproxy:
Ok #1 - So THIS can get made, but an MMO about the Warhammer 40K universe cant?

Dude, this game probably cost less than $100,000 to make. A 40K MMO would be close to 1000X that. Seriously, AAA MMO's cost about 100M to make.

weirdguy:
I have to say, if all it takes to get advertising on Steam (and by proxy, this and other websites) is to pay 100 bucks even though you aren't expecting to get in, then make a big fuss about not getting in, then it's not a bad deal.

Escapist, you've been taken in and you're advertising for them without getting paid. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Actually, they never had to pay the $100 fee to get onto Greenlight. They had jumped in before the fee was ever introduced, though any articles about the game itself seemed to have come after the fee came about.

So yeah... Escapist was paid the same amount!

Aaaand technically, Escapist gets cash for clicks on this stuff and the like, Steam doesn't. So in a way... Escapist have actually made money off this while Steam hasn't.

cwmdulais:

rhizhim:

Andy Chalk:

In any event, if you want to check this thing out in all its non-Greenlighted glory, you may do so at seducemegame.com. Fair warning: There's no sexually explicit content on the site, but your mom might not appreciate you looking at it anyway.

i am not quite sure, but wasnt even blurred out lady and gentlemen parts also in the sexually explicit boat?
if so, dont check the images or you might get blind....

anyways, its just one of the random "dating" sims only this time from outside japan.
and with less to none tentacles or rape.

the colouring is impressive only their hairstyles look like glued on wigs.

A dating game without any tentacle rape?! those crazy westerners! what will they think of next?

i dont know! these mad men might even be as feverish with insanity as to teach a dog how to driv...

Gothproxy:
Ok #1 - So THIS can get made, but an MMO about the Warhammer 40K universe cant?

I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.

okay, we can make a cheap and fast dating game in the warhammer universe with some quickly drawn and animated images.

trouble is, that all your endevours will end in a suspicion of having been seduced by slaanesh and subsequently will lead to you and everyone on the planet to get incinerated.

Hmmm... you could throw your money away on a game like this or, you know, spent it on a real date

Legion:
So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but this almost feels like an advertisement for it seeing as the price, content and link are included.

Hmm it depends on the game at hand at case by case bases. Take into account that i'm a huge eroge fan "Japanese porno games/visual novels" some are good with great narratives, characters, music, art and so on the latter half of games in Japan not so much. Then we get lower brow games made here like this one that is mainly for sex/boobs because of well sex/boobs that I'm amazed that made it onto steam aside from my ground breaking "finally an A/O game cert and you can buy digitally".

A game where you can see naked women? What fantasy world is this?
For fuck's sake, it's just for fuck's sake. I fail to see how it demeans women if they make you work to see their naughty bits. Isn't that how it works in real life?

Legion:
So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

My partner--a woman and a feminist--bought the game and has played it some.

So far neither of us would describe it as sexist. The women are very much in charge in this game, and it's not--unlike traditional games of this sort--about 'winning' their affections. The little mini-games are rather curiously about coming to a common understanding mostly.

Flirtation is about giving as well as you get. They aren't passive, to be sure.

I'd say more, but the game is also tough as heck, and we've not actually seen any sex thus far because of it.

That game seems absolutely hilarious.

Gothproxy:
#2 - This justifies Anita Sarkeesian's entire project.

How is that true?

Hmm i don't know glorified murder sprees is okay in video games but this is kind of stretching it.

Actually $17 American dollars worth of spirits is probably enough to get me into bed. Spot on article.

Andy Chalk:
UPDATE: No Reply has been in touch to assure us that the ESRB rating for Seduce Me is legitimate. I still can't find it on the ESRB website but a copy of the rating certificate, issued on November 23, 2012, is available in PDF format here.

As the PDF clearly states (at the top), they've used the Automated Rating Tool. So since the game hasn't actually been rated by anyone at the ESRB, you won't find it in their database.

I think the tool was covered here on The Escapist a couple of months back.

Gothproxy:
#2 - This justifies Anita Sarkeesian's entire project.

Just sayin'.

...How so?

OT: Never liked stuff like dating sims and I don't really see any reason to now. If I wanna go on a date I'll call my girlfriend. If I wanna see tits I'll call my girlfriend or just straight up skip everything and go right to a porn site. I don't see the appeal of these games.

I'm guessing it will be rates AO? M is still kind of mild compared to what they were shooting for, me thinks.
I'm okay with games like these. I'm sure there's people interested in those sort of games so...more power to them. And isn't videogames considered some sort of art? Movies can do it but videogames can't? (Actually, I'm not opening that can of worms right now).

"Pietra greets you in a steamy sauna. She's unashamedly ***** ********** and over her *********" meets the criteria."

I didn't understand that sentence at all. I don't know what that says about me. Could it be I still have a soul to be saved? Is it a sign?!

Because AO games do so well... Then again, when you're making essentially porn you don't have to be as good since people will forgive many problems so long as they... well, get their "1-up".

So, when is the review due?

Your a game journalism site, shouldnt descriminate ;)

Also way to go my country, allways getting known for the classy stuff.

Legion:
So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but this almost feels like an advertisement for it seeing as the price, content and link are included.

This is true. Pretty much free advertising for them. But I guess news is news.

weirdguy:
I have to say, if all it takes to get advertising on Steam (and by proxy, this and other websites) is to pay 100 bucks even though you aren't expecting to get in, then make a big fuss about not getting in, then it's not a bad deal.

Escapist, you've been taken in and you're advertising for them without getting paid. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Are you kidding? They get paid for every person who clicks on the link taking them here. That's why they're doing it. Cheap news... plus, it's pretty freaking hilarious. I literally lol'd.

OT: I can't remember the last time I saw an AO game come out... part of me wants to get this just to celebrate! But then... then I read the description of the game and absolutely NOTHING about it appeals to me.

There's a difference between shamelessly pandering to an exclusively male audience in a medium who's audience ISN'T exclusively male, and porn, which has always catered to all of our sexual desires, male or female.

SurrealFactory:
There's a difference between shamelessly pandering to an exclusively male audience in a medium who's audience ISN'T exclusively male, and porn, which has always catered to all of our sexual desires, male or female.

Very little porn caters to women. Likely, because very few women spend money on it. Whether this is because of societal norms that have persisted forever or because men are simply more visual is up for debate.

That people can see what games you own and play on Steam kinda dissuades from buying through them.

I hate to be "that guy" but:

Andy Chalk:
In any event, if you want to check this thing out in all its non-Greenlighted glory, you may do so at seducemegame.com. Fair warning: There's no sexually explicit content on the site, but your mom might not appreciate you looking at it anyway.

I admit, I was curious as to exactly what this game entailed, but you might want to fix your link. Right now it goes to "www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/www.seducemegame.com", which leads to a nice Escapist 404 happy page. I think you forgot to add http:// to the URL following the href tag.

Oh, and the game looks absolutely silly. If card games equaled seduction, you think I'd have been fighting off women when I worked as a blackjack and poker dealer.

cwmdulais:
A dating game without any tentacle rape?! those crazy westerners! what will they think of next?

Come to think of it, that would make an awesome late-game twist. Everything is going seductively normal and the BAM, tentacle rape. You'd never see that one coming.

Legion:
So an article about removing sexism from gaming is immediately followed by one about a game that would quite commonly be described as sexist.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but this almost feels like an advertisement for it seeing as the price, content and link are included.

Considering the anti-sexism article is about one of the most successful and acclaimed game makers of the current gen, and the article about the sexist game is about a game that couldn't even make it on Steam's indi program I'd say this paints a pretty good picture of where the industry is going.

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