Research Firm Predicts Xbox 360 Will Outpace Wii, PS3

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Looking at the figures im not surprised. I had a PS1 and then bought a PS2 based on loving a PS1. Also bought an Xbox and then the whole PS3 pricing etc made me buy a 360. Now it seems Sony got the ego that felt people will just pay whatever with there logo and with how PS2 owned a huge amount of the console market i cant disagree with there thinking that much. But that ego is still alive, with tvs etc and Sony refuse to compete and live on their brand. Its a shame as the PS2 was awesome.

I'm slowly starting to realize why Andy Chalk isn't well liked for his journalism as for the last few articles that I have read by him have been extremely heavy handed with bias on the situation and have contained rather misleading content. Though I myself am probably not the best person to be a journalist, I feel like most people could do better than this.

OT: And Gangnam Style has the most hits on Youtube, that hardly makes it the grand master piece. I don't like the Xbox. Of all the gaming platforms, it is the one with the least amount of exclusive content. Every(and I mean every, even the IPhone) other gaming platform has something to offer more so than a 360, where the only legitimate exclusive of anything for it is Halo and a few XBLA games that will probably go to steam soon enough. It is a wanna-be computer with a monthly fee and fewer games and customability. At least the Wii and PS3 have more than one franchise that's actually exclusive to their platform. I don't care if it's online service is slightly better; it costs money for services that are pretty minimalistic for what these products became, and a few things that the PS3 and Wii couldn't do, but were so minute that spending more than 2 dollars on any other platform for them and it would have been a rip off.

You can't judge the winner of a console war by the number of consoles sold. If you are then the wii wins as it is one of the best selling consoles of all time. In fact if my memory serves correctly the wii out sold the ps2, or in other words more units sold doesn't mean it is better. Also didn't the PS3 out sell the xbox 360 in world wide sales not to long ago, and why are console wars still a thing can't we just grow up and enjoy what ever system we prefer instead of comparing it to our friend preference.

So Xbox 360s will outsell PS3 and Wii, when the next generation is in full swing, and games will probably long since have stopped being produced for the previous generation. The PS2 lasted until just recently and is concidered the best selling console of all time, but even in it's time it was the power house of that generation. The Wii won while it was still relivant, and even then it was speculated the ratio of games to consoles was 1.5/1. Where most people kept just the Wii Sports and nothing more. Even then the hardware sold is not the biggest income to the companies. It's the number of games. the PS2 was still being made, but only a handfull of games were being released into it's twilight, and those were mainly sports and shovelware.

The next generation is yet to be seen, and will probably weigh on exclusive titles. The age of gimics I hope has died with the patheric performence of the Kinect and the Move, even the Will had fallen back on using more traditional controller, in the loosest use of the term of course. When E3 rolls around, and the likelyhood of both Microsoft and Sony announcing not only what their next console is, but their exclusive launch titles, we'll see who gets on top. Wii U has a head start, but it's possible it's hardware that is only on par with the PS3 and Xbox, may hinder it.

Reading that was just painful.

I mean, what dumb, shit for brains really expects Microsoft to support the 360 for four more years? The 720 is expected to debut at E3 and when that happens the marketing and development will move thier focus on to the successor, not the obselete waste of space.

And speaking of the console wars, this is all that needs putting down.
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Im saving that virtol for the 8th generation wars.

This gen's console war has been over for years... the winner was the PS2.

Is this a troll article? The 360 and PS3 will be superseded by the end of the year and if history is any indication we can expect the 360 to stop being manufactured shortly thereafter in favour of the next gen. The PS3 might carry on (since the PS2 only stopped being manufactured this year) but they're not going to maintain anything like the numbers they are now.

Didn't we have another article about how the PS3 was finally beating the 360? SO CONFUSED!

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1594-2013
Murdered by videogame newsie, Andy Chalk.

As a PlayStation faithful, I am appalled.

And the loser is everyone. Because we are still nowhere close to the "One game purchase play anywhere on anything" future that we should be heading to.

Long as console wars exist there will be companies preying on your mindless loyalty to a platform that you have to pay for to use it in the first place. Not that the next generation will be any better people will still be the exact same teenagers humming "Genesis does what Nintendon't." like in the 90's. Because the simple fact that you have something someone else doesn't, means it has to be better or otherwise it loses all meaning.

Also GUD JURNALIMES Escapist.

2 days ago: Playstation beat out 360 in sales.

Today: NOPE! It apparently didn't.

Tomorrow: PSVITA outsold WiiU.

Grey Carter:
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1594-2013
Murdered by videogame newsie, Andy Chalk.

As a PlayStation faithful, I am appalled.

Actually, technically I believe that journalism died last year Grey.

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Although technically the "birth date" should be 1594 like you said.

I, for one, welcome our new Xbox overlords.

In fact, I myself purchased three Xbox 360s just the other day!

Who needs a Wii, Wii U, PC, or PS3 when you could just stock up on Xbox 360s?

I don't even know why I purchased them! It was like something was just compelling me, telling me that the three years I've owned a PS3 have all been a horrible, horrible lie.

Truly, very well done. I do honestly hope that Chalk is fired for this article. I mean, there's this now in addition to that time where he indirectly insult me. So, yeah.

Oh, and regarding my accusation, it happed was in this article: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.353307-EA-Unveils-First-Medal-of-Honor-Warfighter-Trailer

Drummie666:
Okay, because I'm starting to get angry about the joking about the subtitle, I have to ask you to read this piece of writing I saw on the MoH twitter feed:
http://www.army.mil/features/WhoIsTheWarfighter/default.html
and kindly give it a rest. Based on everything they've said about the game, "Warfighter" is very well representative of what they're going for.

Andy Chalk:
Stay tuned for the first exciting DLC release, Medal of Honor: Letterwriter!

I mean... Come on. At least make some attempt at professionalism.

I really don't want to start up some flames here but of course the xbox 360 sold more for many decent reasons. Aside from having huge flaws in design that bricked many consoles with the RROD or Microsoft bricking the device if it is modded in any-way. If I recall nearly up to a million where bricked due to modding so it really helped with sales of their console to win this race/sarcasm.

Oh come on, I can't be the only one that saw the name "DFC Intelligence" and giggled. You fail me internet.

OT: It's hardly surprising that with the library that the 360 offers, second hand titles in mass for cheap and cheapening price on the console itself would lead to more sales after this much time. The 360 is a very accessible console with an appealing library to many so it's to be expected that sales would continue to roll forward.

Oh god I missed something beautiful.

J Tyran:
Look at all the people who did not read the article before raging....

Look at the person who didn't read the posts before being snarky...

Just saying, the article was a straight joke making the original title sensationalist bile.

BrotherRool:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121472-PS3-Overtakes-Xbox-360-In-Shipped-Consoles

Published 3 day ago.

The way you stop me calling Escapist journalism a joke is to start using titles like "Analysts predict the 360 will have sold the most consoles by 2017"

And stop using headlines like
"Xbox 360 Wins the Console War"

Its controversial and gets hits, maybe even funny. It's also a really bad way to conduct a news section. And leads to you publishing two articles within 3 days, whose headlines flatout contradict each other. The joke isn#t meant to be you

(Also you might note that this is US sales only, because we#ve already sold twice as many PS3's globally as the 'winning' Xbox sales in 2017. I'm just saying that the way you phrase it makes it sound like the article you've linked to hasn't been properly read. It even says US in the tagline)

EDIT: Thanks for changing, I appreciate it. I've been a bit heavy handed and I'm thankful you just made the correction, despite the criticism...

Now if you could just mention someone that it#s only predicted to outsell in the US and those are only US figures of predictions you're quoting there, not the global sales (I mean the 360 has already sold 70 million consoles as reported in the Escapist article I'm linking to) =D

As you said the PS3 has overtaken the 360, I agree they will probably beat the Wii but I don't agree the 360 will win, esp by that amount.

J Tyran:
Look at all the people who did not read the article before raging....

while that is partly to blame i still think all of these misleading titles, article lead ins that misrepresent the contents of the articles, and hard stretches of the source material are all designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and get these people raging without reading, instead of being a decent source of news. i was brought here by something that isn't here anymore, and i am starting to wonder if i should stick around.

and for the others, i don't think attacking people who are concerned about this is the right way to discuss this either.

Who the hell is going to still be buying a 360, next year and beyond?

Hmm, who is sill letting Andy Chalk write articles?

That wasn't rhetorical by the way.

I began to notice some of his more, er, intriguing articles that got my proverbial knickers in a twist, so I just assumed that my opinions were in the minority. This man is the lowest form of game journalism on the Escapist.

This is not me defending the 360, hell, I don't even own one of the bloody things. According to his Twittter, he claims to not own a 360, but his account has XboX Live linked to it, with several recent games.

This is more about fair journalism on the Escapist that really needs some buggering quality control! /rant

I'm just gonna jump in here and say I have no issue with this article. It's a fun read reporting on what some people think will happen with console sales.

Seriously though, who is coming to the Escapist expecting "professional", dry, just the facts journalism? All the writers here put a bit of personality into what they write and that's why I like to read them. Andy Chalk's articles are easily my favourite out of the newsies, and this article is just what I've come to expect and look forward to from him.

y'know in Japan most of the major retailers stopped stocking xboxes quite a while ago because no one buys them...total sales from launch haven't even hit 2 million...

jus' saying'

wikipedias pages on the seventh console generation and its sales totals are not exactly hard to find...but then i've noticed quotes from the Escapist on a few gaming TV ads here recently in the UK...site must be getting big...and noticed...

oh dear.



NONE OF YOU KNOW HOW TO DO ANY RESEARCH OR HOW TO READ.

J Tyran:
Look at all the people who did not read the article before raging....

I don't know if you saw the original title to the article, but it was simply: "Xbox 360 wins the console war". You take that headline and you add to it the fact that the basis for it is "Forecasted U.S final hardware sales by 2017" and you have yourself a real panty-twister.

P.S: Not that I'm defending the Xbox 360 or anything. God no.

BrotherRool:

EDIT: Thanks for changing, I appreciate it. I've been a bit heavy handed and I'm thankful you just made the correction, despite the criticism...

Don't be so quick to think he cares: (Read the replies)

CrossLOPER:
NONE OF YOU KNOW HOW TO DO ANY RESEARCH OR HOW TO READ.

nothing in this report mentions the figures are US only.

we all know they are (or at least i hope people do) but the simple fact is when you write a "news" report its supposed to be "up front" not the start of some magical mystery tour of link clicking which finally reveals what was said is actually only true in one limited circumstance (ie in one country).

and i know how to read and contrary to popular belief its not just a matter of simplistically reading the words sequentially presented.

Mr.Tea:
Don't be so quick to think he cares: (Read the replies)

sigh.

oh well...nothing lasts forever.

Noelveiga:
Numbers apply to the US only. Yes, worldwide it's apparently the case that the Xbox 360 is now the third of the current generation in consoles shipped. Yes, this is mostly due to continental Europe and Japan, the 360 has a significant lead in the US and the UK.

Chill, everyone.

I mean, sure, the post is rampant flamebaiting serving as clickbaiting. The way you defeat it is to go "Hey, the 360 sold a lot of units in the US but not so much elsewhere, ain't that a thing?" and move on.

So this didn't happen, clearly.

*sigh*

BrotherRool:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121472-PS3-Overtakes-Xbox-360-In-Shipped-Consoles

Published 3 day ago.

The way you stop me calling Escapist journalism a joke is to start using titles like "Analysts predict the 360 will have sold the most consoles by 2017"

And stop using headlines like
"Xbox 360 Wins the Console War"

Its controversial and gets hits, maybe even funny. It's also a really bad way to conduct a news section. And leads to you publishing two articles within 3 days, whose headlines flatout contradict each other. The joke isn#t meant to be you

(Also you might note that this is US sales only, because we#ve already sold twice as many PS3's globally as the 'winning' Xbox sales in 2017. I'm just saying that the way you phrase it makes it sound like the article you've linked to hasn't been properly read. It even says US in the tagline)

EDIT: Thanks for changing, I appreciate it. I've been a bit heavy handed and I'm thankful you just made the correction, despite the criticism...

Now if you could just mention someone that it#s only predicted to outsell in the US and those are only US figures of predictions you're quoting there, not the global sales (I mean the 360 has already sold 70 million consoles as reported in the Escapist article I'm linking to) =D

Its Andy Chalk, what did you expect? This is his style.

The article was a bother, not worth the time to read. It was second sourced, as usual, from our serious gaming journalists here at the escapist. The escapist where journalistic integrity is still strong with this of copy, paste and a little rewording to make it seem like they did something. I read the original source as well and it is as mediocre as normal for that site.

Interestingly enough Gamasutra had a better piece on the current actual data and an absurd claim that the XBox 360 had won the console war. Hmm. War(s) are still ongoing. Losing nearly 2M units in sales is hardly winning. Losing less than the others is a more valid position that none of the gaming mags/journalists/butt kissing fanboys will state. I will. The consoles are losing the console wars because they are not worth buying for the vast majority of gamers. And the PS3 has sold a trivial amount more than the XBox 360 when the rest of the world is considered. Adding the world increases the count by more than double so ignoring is just abysmal reporting by all parties.

Xbox 360 had two good years as a console. Which are well and truly behind them. As to why they had "success late in life" well Dumb and Dumber it was the Xbox 360 Slim. The box was finally profitable and not bleeding cash at each juncture with repeated Red Ring Of Death returns. The vast majority under warranty. The box was finally worth buying because you probably wouldn't have to return it twice each year. Which added to the astronomical loss of $7.5B to MS. MS has since moved the Xbox into a different division so the losses could be hidden behind accounting flim-flamery. Typical MS BS (tm). Now that division is losing hundreds of millions per quarter even while adding hundreds of millions in advertising revenue from ads forced onto their valued customers eye balls.

Don't get me wrong. I like my XBox 360 Slim. Much quieter then the Xbox my son had, that I had to repair twice. Quieter then the XBox 360 RROD version as well. I know what is inside the original, the 360 and the slim. Pretty much ancient junk and less memory than a smart phone. Wow. What a success. MS is hyping that some double digit percentage of people are buying the current version just to watch TV with. Excuse me, media. Which means they have lost 1.8M units in sales in 2012 while also losing an additional 1.1M buyers of Game Consoles. The consoles need to sell games. To use them for another purpose is stupid as their is no real profit in them for either company. The UIs are terrible. Playing physical media is significantly louder than a proper DVD player in any of them.

If this is a win, god save them from a loss. Oh that's right. RROD. That was loss for the history books. Now, if people would just forget it about it.

wow... there are a lot of people who lack humor ... yes saying "x wins console wars" is flame baiting, but this is not a news site and headlines should be taken as a grain of salt.

I think the title was a play off of Yahtzee's column http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/10132-Seriously-Console-Wars-Are-Pointless which I think a lot of people here missed.

Honestly, quit taking things so seriously and quit raging because of silly head-lines, you'll be a better person for it.

Grey Carter:
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1594-2013
Murdered by videogame newsie, Andy Chalk.

As a PlayStation faithful, I am appalled.

As a rational human being I am appalled by this article. There have been few times I have taken issue with articles from the Escapist but when I do, it is always andy chalk and always for the same reasons.

I really hope that they start screening the cohesion of titles with article contents and sources.

This article is a joke

Mr.Tea:

J Tyran:
Look at all the people who did not read the article before raging....

I don't know if you saw the original title to the article, but it was simply: "Xbox 360 wins the console war". You take that headline and you add to it the fact that the basis for it is "Forecasted U.S final hardware sales by 2017" and you have yourself a real panty-twister.

P.S: Not that I'm defending the Xbox 360 or anything. God no.

BrotherRool:

EDIT: Thanks for changing, I appreciate it. I've been a bit heavy handed and I'm thankful you just made the correction, despite the criticism...

Don't be so quick to think he cares: (Read the replies)

Ah. Thats sad. Doesn't it leave you with good feelings hearing a professional mature response like that =D

BrotherRool:
Don't be so quick to think he cares: (Read the replies)

Ah. Thats sad. Doesn't it leave you with good feelings hearing a professional mature response like that =D

It legitimately hurt my feelings (though granted I have a thin skin). Not to mention this notion that the issue was somehow a console fanboy/anti-360 thing. Whatever.

Hilarious, he changed the title!

Still, the research firm is full of shit because MS is dead last... again (fanboy "lol")

In 2017 no one will give a damn about this gen and will probably be looking forward to the generation after the next.

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