Users Say Ounah to the Ouya's Controller

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Users Say Ounah to the Ouya's Controller

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The Ouya's controller is being redesigned based on user feedback.

So contrary to some cynics' dire predictions, the Ouya is actually happening. Dev kits are out in the wild and gamers have finally managed to get their hands on an early version of the console. Unfortunately, those hands weren't very pleased with the Ouya's controller, so it's undergoing a few revisions based on user feedback.

First and foremost, the controller's nasty "disc" d-pad (like the 360's terrible d-pad) is being replaced with a cross-shape, indented variant similar to that of the NES controller. Considering 2D games will likely make up a large part of the Ouya's library, a quality d-pad will be essential.

So what else is changing? The concave thumb sticks now come with a rubberized grip to prevent sweaty thumb slippage (oh er). The touch pad is getting a sensitivity upgrade. The triggers are being moved closer to the body of the controller and the battery bay is being secured for a more snug fit.

As a bit of a controller aficionado, I'm glad to see the Ouya team is taking the time to iterate the console's controllers, but I'm hoping the console's "open" nature extends to its peripherals. What's the point in inviting friends over if you can't stick them with some atrocious 3rd party controller seemingly designed for lobster-people?

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Good move on the redesign. Hopefully they can get it right this time...

EDIT: "Users Say Ounah to the Ouya's Controller" I see what you did there...

I am actually a little excited about this project. I am glad to see the controller being given serious thought and early reviews being taken seriously. Some console developers don't seem to care nearly enough about the ergonomics and quality of their controllers, despite it being an important aspect of the gaming experience.

I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

To be honest I'd prefer to keep the design of the Dual Shock controller.

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

Play any fighting game and you'll see. It's one of the worst I've ever used.

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

How many other D-pads have you used?

Because... dude. The 360's is literally one of, if not the worst.

OT: Good. Honestly, I think the current design is really, really ugly and uncomfortable-looking. Every time I look at it, I think "I don't want my hands on that." (The asymmetrical sticks is something I'll never enjoy.) Not that I was planning on getting an Ouya anyway, but the controller alone put me off the idea a great deal.

FFP2:

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

Play any fighting game and you'll see. It's one of the worst I've ever used.

So true. The original Xbox's was even worse. Hopefully this means that they'll finally make an acceptable one with their next console.

Grey Carter:
What's the point in inviting friends over if you can't stick them with some atrocious 3rd party controller seemingly designed for lobster-people?

So you want the Ouya to support the Dreamcast controller then?

Here's what the Ouya needs...<.<

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every system needs the Xwing...<.<

But i liked the N64 controller :<

I actually never found out why, but i did!

As a bit of a controller geek it had better be damn good for me to want to use it, I've just been using the Wii U pro controller, it is now my favourite of all time besides maybe the Saturn.

The tune ups do all sound like good ideas though, I'm fairly hyper critical of control, if the tactile feedback is wrong or too soft or too hard I want nothing to do with it. I'm also not a huge fan of the asymmetrical analog sticks being used here, I don't like them much for the 360 controller either.

And batteries? Please tell me it has a built in battery that recharges and doesn't have some kind of retarded pact with Duracell like Microsoft do?

ScrabbitRabbit:

FFP2:

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

Play any fighting game and you'll see. It's one of the worst I've ever used.

So true. The original Xbox's was even worse. Hopefully this means that they'll finally make an acceptable one with their next console.

The 360 d-pad is spongey and soft, later models like the wired one I use for my PC is'nt as bad, but it's still pretty soft and unpleasant for 2D sidescrollers or a fighting game. NIntendo actually seem to have the market cornered in good d-pads, even though the Wii D-pad was a touch tiny, the Wii U's is wonderfuk.

ScrabbitRabbit:

FFP2:

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

Play any fighting game and you'll see. It's one of the worst I've ever used.

So true. The original Xbox's was even worse. Hopefully this means that they'll finally make an acceptable one with their next console.

I find it sad that you're not even looking for good anymore, just acceptable. It's like you're resigned to companies giving nothing but shitty equipment (and then calling you entitled if you dare to complain), and now you're just saying "I don't care anymore! Just let it be better than having to actually be in fist fight where every bone in my face will be crushed on the first punch!"

Nintendo's patent on a sensible cross-shaped d-pad has expired, right? I don't see any reason for anyone to release a new controller with a disc d-pad ever again.

I never realised that controller "aficionados" were an actual thing. That aside, the Ouya is a nice idea that I hope turns out well. If there are a few decent titles on the platform, I might even pick one up. I like that they went for a controller similar to the 360's. Even though I love the dual shock, it was clearly designed with tiny Japanese hands in mind and not large, hairy hands like mine.

But being open platform, I agree that they should allow 3rd party peripherals to be a thing. Wasn't the whole point of the Ouya to be super cheap? Lets hope they don't do a lockdown like MicroSoft did. Doing that without warning was kind of a dick move. One of my friends had all his saves on a 3rd party memory stick.

as a member if the proud PC gaming master race a good controller is important to me because i am used to being able to change bad controls.
and the further d-pads remove themselves from the 360 one the better, that thing is horrible. even playing dark souls with my 360 pad on pc makes me rage whenever i try to select a different spell in combat

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

As someone who grew up using full digital controllers, I can safely say that yes, the 360's D-Pad really isn't great. The main problem is that it's not really individual buttons. Most other D-pad's buttons are all connected (think the nintendo plus-shape), but the difference is each one presses an individual button underneath the direction. The 360s sits on a central stalk, and the whole thing moves when you're trying to press in a direction, basically, it's a joystick with a strange head and step-locks.

That makes it REALLY annoying, because the snap-back to the centre makes things just that more annoying and adds that few extra nano-seconds to controls.

Sacman:
Here's what the Ouya needs...<.<

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every system needs the Xwing...<.<

B-But I like that controller. My dearest gaming related memories are with that controller (and the(S)NES).

Anyways, OT:
I doubt the Ouya will have any noticable impact on the gaming market. Sure, people might get it, but they will still get some of the big 3, which was Ouya supposed to change.
And the D-Pad sucks. Nintendo's D-Pad is the best, than Sony's. Then every other controller and at last the Xbox d-pad. Seriously, why did MS do such a bad job there? The controller is great, but the D-Pad is just bad.

"Users Say Ounah to the Ouya's Controller"

...Really?

Damn it TheEscapist, I'm increasingly struggling to convince myself you guys are better than IGN and general Newspapers for non-sensationalist gaming news. You sure you didn't hire some guys from The Daily Mail, The Sun or Fox News recently?

However, related to the subject, I'm glad that the Ouya (...Because thinking of a games console name that doesn't make you cringe in public is too hard) is adjusting based on feedback from users. Although I'm somewhat surprised that the thumb-sticks are concave and not convex. However, maybe it's just personal preference of how I like thumb-sticks?

Apparently I missed the memo......but what the fuck is this "Ouya"? A new console, obviously...but beyond that. Or is that all you really need to know about it?

VanQQisH:
I never realised that controller "aficionados" were an actual thing.

Oh yeah, we are. It's the main reason my choice of next-gen console is already made - I simply refuse to go back to the piece-of-shit Playstation controller. Can't do it. I can see why people say the Xbox D-Pad sucks, but I don't play fighting games so I only ever use it for stuff like weapon scrolling, and on balance the 360 has one of the best controllers I've ever used.

Will we really have to open the sucker up each time we want to charge it? seems like way to much of a pain....

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Good-byyyyyyyyyye

Hey, if the controller design is the biggest problem people have with it, I'd say the Ouya is still off to a good start.

Capcha: Keep what's yours
The one I got before this was "Know your rights" I wonder what Capcha's stance on gun control is?
>.>
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I'm not getting the hate for disc shaped D-Pads to be honest. Yeah, the 360's D-pad sucks, but that has more to do with the awful positioning on the controller, and the horrid feel and response from the inner workings of the pad than the actual shape of it. And I say this because the best D-Pad I have ever used was on the Street Fighter 4 game pads Mad Catz put out. They were accurate, responsive, and yes, disc shaped. Might have also helped that they were at least twice the size of a 360 D-pad as well. A disc shaped D-pad isn't bad in and of itself. But most people's only experience with them is with the shit Microsoft builds with them.

'Sweaty thumb slippage' is a phrase I hope I never hear again.

I didn't even know that it had a disc D pad like the 360 controller. I would redesign the controller on that alone.

Have they inoculated themselves against the Patent Troll Anascape or are we looking at them getting sued if they show any sign of success?

Sacman:

every system needs the Xwing...<.<

That was honestly the first time I ever thought of it that way.

Adeptus Aspartem:
But i liked the N64 controller :<

I actually never found out why, but i did!

Because it was the best standard controller for FPS ever available for console ?

BiH-Kira:
(and the(S)NES).

SNES also my favorite, actually I am so used to it, the form of the SNES controller is actually the natural rest position of my finger (or maybe it a egg and chicken conundrum has that why it my favorite, has I only came to notice this a few years ago).

One thing about this system that kinda bugs me, didn't one of the play testers say that it wasn't that powerful? And in order to get the best out of it you had to be the type of person that likes to upgrade their equipment a lot? Because I am not that type of person.

RJ 17:
Apparently I missed the memo......but what the fuck is this "Ouya"? A new console, obviously...but beyond that. Or is that all you really need to know about it?

From what I have heard its an open source console built to play shit like andriod apps.

The_Echo:

AndrewC:
I don't understand the whole "360's d-pad sucks" - seems fine to me.

How many other D-pads have you used?

Because... dude. The 360's is literally one of, if not the worst.

The worst? I wouldn't go that far. The GameCube's tiny little D-Pad that registered directions almost at random was pretty atrocious, and certainly worse than the 360. But yeah, the 360's D-Pad was pretty bad.

That said, I think historically people have pretty consistently preferred cross-style D-Pads. I understand why other companies didn't do it in the past, since Nintendo had it patented... but since August 2005 there's been no excuse not to do it this way. Heck, even before Nintendo's patent expired, the Dreamcast had that style of D-Pad. At this point, I really think they all should be unless they have a specific reason not to (such as Genesis clones, which really ought to copy its eight-way pad.

P.S. Thanks

Little Gray:

RJ 17:
Apparently I missed the memo......but what the fuck is this "Ouya"? A new console, obviously...but beyond that. Or is that all you really need to know about it?

From what I have heard its an open source console built to play shit like andriod apps.

Ahhh, thanks for the response. Until this article I hadn't even heard of this thing, let alone that it was apparently far along enough in developement for people to have made comments on its controller.

I'm hoping that it fails worse than the Virtual Boy. Maybe then Gunpei can rest in peace.

Cause people really need another console, and another controller, to play angry birds and fruit ninja? I already passed on the Wii U, and my 3DS XL is one of the many out there that likes to randomly crash every few hours for kicks so forgive me if I haven't given the Ouya the proper attention it deserves.

Just because its name seems to be thought up by grabbing 4 random scrabble tiles and running with it, looks like a slightly more upscale Leap Frog learning pad for kids, and has none of the resources or experience the current 3 console makers...I mean I'm sure everyone will buy one!

Just like the N-Gage

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