Nintendo Announces Smash Bros. Showing for E3

Nintendo Announces Smash Bros. Showing for E3

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Smash Bros. director's Twitter comments suggest a video trailer may be in the works.

Last week's Nintendo Direct video had a huge wealth of information concerning upcoming Nintendo titles. One of the titles mentioned, but not shown, was the upcoming Smash Bros. game. Satoru Iwata, current president of Nintendo, asked us to wait until this year's E3 for more information. Fans asked which version of the game would be shown at E3, and game director Masahiro Sakurai has announced on his Twitter that both the 3DS and WiiU versions will be shown.

A translation of Sakurai's Twitter tells us that the reason no media was shown for Smash Bros. last week was because he didn't feel they had anything good enough to show off, and by the time E3 rolls around they should have "something better" to show us. While Iwata said in the Nintendo Direct video that screenshots of the game would be shown, Sakurai's comments seem to suggest their may be a video trailer in the works.

Little is known of the new Smash Bros. games, except that they should be released simultaneously across the two platforms, and have at least some degree of connectivity. Sakurai has said in the past that he wants the 3DS version to have a more individual and customizable experience, where players could create their own personal character and upload it for play in the WiiU version. While he has said that it is possible we will see Capcom and other third party characters in the new game, he recognized the need to narrow down their inclusion since introducing non-Nintendo characters "willy-nilly" would lose the focus of the game.

At E3 2006, a surprise trailer for Smash Bros. Brawl was shown, blowing fans out of the water and generating a lot of hype for the game. The trailer was shortly followed by the launch of an official Smash Bros. Brawl Dojo website, which teased new information about the game on a weekly basis leading up to it's release. Could this year's E3 showing of the new Smash Bros. have a similar follow-up?

Source: Twitter

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Are they trying to hype the hype about this game?

I don't like the direction this is starting to take :/

Steven Bogos:

Satoru Iwate, current president of Nintendo...

While Iwate said in the Nintendo Direct video...

I'm quite curious what new things they could add to the game so that it isn't stale.

00DUMB:

Steven Bogos:

Satoru Iwate, current president of Nintendo...

While Iwate said in the Nintendo Direct video...

Thanks! My bad

Hopefully this one doesn't suck as much as Brawl did.

Is it not fitting that in a thread about Mario, the OP and first 3 posts don't have their own avatars? Almost like they can't express their personalities...

OT: Ah, so tides are still going in and out? Good to know.

Hmm, I wonder how they'll implement custom characters. Also, Capcom characters? You guys better put Bass.EXE in there.

I doubt any new trailer will have the same impact that the Brawl trailer had.

More specifically, nothing is going to match Solid Snake popping out of that cardboard box.

Brawl was pretty good, but it didn't quite beat Melee in my books. I am kind of looking forward to being able to play this on a portable platform though.

I personally can't wait for this. Though I don't own a Wii U, the nintendo direct really made me want one. Gonna love playing smash on my 3DS though.

Detroit:
Hmm, I wonder how they'll implement custom characters.

It better not be Miis, otherwise I'll be forced to strangle a baby seal. Other than that sounds pretty cool though, I'll probably end up getting the 3DS version.

I am kinda not that hyped for this game. They said they won't increase the roster anymore and I don't know how much they can enhance the current formula without breaking it or ripping it to shreds.

I also have a REALLY bad feeling they are going to use this game to champion the rise of DLC in nintendo games by charging for characters/stages.

I really hope I am wrong in this.

GAunderrated:
I am kinda not that hyped for this game. They said they won't increase the roster anymore and I don't know how much they can enhance the current formula without breaking it or ripping it to shreds.

I also have a REALLY bad feeling they are going to use this game to champion the rise of DLC in nintendo games by charging for characters/stages.

I really hope I am wrong in this.

I don't see why DLC in smash bros would be a bad thing. Having the ability to get more characters and stages after launch would be great in my opinion. I'm sure most of the smash bros fans have had characters they wish would have made the cut but didn't. With DLC we can have more characters without the need to sacrifice the quality of the game as a whole.

GAunderrated:
I am kinda not that hyped for this game. They said they won't increase the roster anymore and I don't know how much they can enhance the current formula without breaking it or ripping it to shreds.

I also have a REALLY bad feeling they are going to use this game to champion the rise of DLC in nintendo games by charging for characters/stages.

I really hope I am wrong in this.

I imagine having an ever expanding roster without doing some moveset cloning like with fox is very difficult to balance without making every character bland.

Randomosity:

GAunderrated:
I am kinda not that hyped for this game. They said they won't increase the roster anymore and I don't know how much they can enhance the current formula without breaking it or ripping it to shreds.

I also have a REALLY bad feeling they are going to use this game to champion the rise of DLC in nintendo games by charging for characters/stages.

I really hope I am wrong in this.

I don't see why DLC in smash bros would be a bad thing. Having the ability to get more characters and stages after launch would be great in my opinion. I'm sure most of the smash bros fans have had characters they wish would have made the cut but didn't. With DLC we can have more characters without the need to sacrifice the quality of the game as a whole.

Heres the thing, it wont have more characters for sure because they stated that they won't increase the roster. If you are willing to purchase surfaces of flat ground with colors in the back (stages) well that is on you. lol.

I couldn't stand brawl, and even after it was released continued playing Melee until I graduated from college, I'd still be playing it if I hadn't moved, even the mod that was released for brawl was leaps and bounds better than what Nintendo released. I mean, tripping...really? I hope Nintendo doesn't mess up this next upcoming game as well, because its probably the only game that would get me anywhere close to buying a WiiU

I will forever campaign for the title of this new game to be Super Smash Bros: Kerfuffle.

Call Me Jose:
I couldn't stand brawl, and even after it was released continued playing Melee until I graduated from college, I'd still be playing it if I hadn't moved, even the mod that was released for brawl was leaps and bounds better than what Nintendo released. I mean, tripping...really? I hope Nintendo doesn't mess up this next upcoming game as well, because its probably the only game that would get me anywhere close to buying a WiiU

Okay, I'll admit that the tripping was stupid, but honestly, what sucked about anything else in the game? I loved Brawl, and I don't see how it could've been much better without polishing the Adventure mode up.

Shadowsetzer:
Okay, I'll admit that the tripping was stupid, but honestly, what sucked about anything else in the game? I loved Brawl, and I don't see how it could've been much better without polishing the Adventure mode up.

(Note: I've never actually played Melee, just a follower of the Smash World Forums for a while and an avid modder of Brawl.)
When compared to Melee from a competitive standpoint, Brawl's physics were borked to hell and back. There was no combo potential due to a generally lower fall rate, gameplay was slowed without broadening hitboxes leading to even less ability to follow up hits and the inclusion of Meta-Knight made things just impossible for real competition to be made. Meta Knight still rates as a tier on his own (Please don't start the "Tires Don Exits!!!" argument. They do.) simply due to the fact that he can rack up huge percentages simply by mashing the B button and there isn't a thing that you can do about it.

OT: As for the new one, isn't it being done by Namco-Bandai? I seem to recall that this iteration of SSB was too big for Nintendo to handle so they outsourced. Either way, I welcome an in-depth character creation system - if the modding scene has shown us anything over these past few years, it's that the ingenuity and drive of the customer is insane and probably able to spin huge amounts of money.

They just need to do it right. Otherwise they'll have people jailbreaking WiiUs to install rogue characters onto their systems and from their standpoint they'll be back to square one.

elilupe:
I will forever campaign for the title of this new game to be Super Smash Bros: Kerfuffle.

... That's it, get back in your cage, I want that on t-shirts by tomorrow morning! -whip crack- IMMEDIATELY!

This is one of those times where i have to question that if Nintendo announcing a new game is really worth the news post.

Either way, i look forward to Yahtzee taking a nice big shit on this one too.

Assassin Xaero:
Hopefully this one doesn't suck as much as Brawl did.

Call Me Jose:
I couldn't stand brawl

Seriously... I absolutely HATE people who just say they hate brawl without giving a legitimate reason. Sorry but you people are worse than the Starwars Prequel haters. At least that audience actually GIVE REASONS as to why they hate the movies.

The ONLY reason you give as to why you hate Brawl is 'tripping'. That's not a legitimate reason. Tripping hardly even happens in Brawl, it's just annoying sometimes.

If you hate brawl and you're unable to give any reason greater than 'tripping sucks' or 'final smashes aren't balanced' (you can disable them), then your hate isn't placed on Brawl especially, but on all of the Smash Bros games.

GAunderrated:
I am kinda not that hyped for this game. They said they won't increase the roster anymore and I don't know how much they can enhance the current formula without breaking it or ripping it to shreds.

I also have a REALLY bad feeling they are going to use this game to champion the rise of DLC in nintendo games by charging for characters/stages.

I really hope I am wrong in this.

There will be new characters, however they're probably going to remove some of the clone characters. Ike or Marth will definitely be removed to make room for Croum.

Wolf or Falco might be removed considering how they are exactly the same as Fox.

Toon Link or Adult Link will also probably removed. Not only do they have the same skillset, but they're also the same characters.

elilupe:
I will forever campaign for the title of this new game to be Super Smash Bros: Kerfuffle.

I'm more for Super Smash Bros Bitchslapping...

but then again, we already have a SSBB :C

I can't wait to see what they have in store... and for the love of god NO Miis!! Those things poisoned every franchise they touched and completely ruined some. (Pilot wings anyone?) I just want more fighters, new stages and new amazing music. I still listen to the brawl soundtrack all the time.

A Smooth Criminal:
Seriously... I absolutely HATE people who just say they hate brawl without giving a legitimate reason. Sorry but you people are worse than the Starwars Prequel haters. At least that audience actually GIVE REASONS as to why they hate the movies.

I have been wondering this for almost a year now. I didn't even know people hated it until sometime during the summer, when someone here informed me there was an audience who despised Brawl and loved Melee. I couldn't really understand that because no reason was given, and Brawl, to me, was just a bigger and better Melee.

The ONLY reason you give as to why you hate Brawl is 'tripping'. That's not a legitimate reason. Tripping hardly even happens in Brawl, it's just annoying sometimes.

...I'll wait for confirmation on that, because that sounds too stupid to be true D:

A Smooth Criminal:

Seriously... I absolutely HATE people who just say they hate brawl without giving a legitimate reason. Sorry but you people are worse than the Starwars Prequel haters. At least that audience actually GIVE REASONS as to why they hate the movies.

The ONLY reason you give as to why you hate Brawl is 'tripping'. That's not a legitimate reason. Tripping hardly even happens in Brawl, it's just annoying sometimes.

If you hate brawl and you're unable to give any reason greater than 'tripping sucks' or 'final smashes aren't balanced' (you can disable them), then your hate isn't placed on Brawl especially, but on all of the Smash Bros games.

Shadowsetzer:
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Tripping is only a quick example to why I don't like brawl, more reasons sure. No L-canceling. No wave dashing which most people who don't play competitively call cheating, multiple air-dodges (which when you think about it is a huge change), dash dancing is almost impossible and its not even because of tripping. Characters are way too floaty. It is much easier to come back to a ledge, you don't even have to be facing it. I mean these are reasons I can think of up the top of my head, telling you this alone you can see a good bit of the mechanics of the game where changed but I guess thats no legitimate reason either (Pff game-mechanics! hah!). I also forgot I'm entitled to my own opinion.

Edit: Also thanks Shadowsetzer for being mature enough to ask reasonably why I disliked it.

A Smooth Criminal:

Assassin Xaero:
Hopefully this one doesn't suck as much as Brawl did.

Call Me Jose:
I couldn't stand brawl

Seriously... I absolutely HATE people who just say they hate brawl without giving a legitimate reason. Sorry but you people are worse than the Starwars Prequel haters. At least that audience actually GIVE REASONS as to why they hate the movies.

The ONLY reason you give as to why you hate Brawl is 'tripping'. That's not a legitimate reason. Tripping hardly even happens in Brawl, it's just annoying sometimes.

If you hate brawl and you're unable to give any reason greater than 'tripping sucks' or 'final smashes aren't balanced' (you can disable them), then your hate isn't placed on Brawl especially, but on all of the Smash Bros games.

I absolutely hate people who lash out and attack people based on false assumptions instead of doing the mature thing and asking "oh, why didn't you like this game that I love to the point where I attack anyone who doesn't praise it?". Just because I didn't give a reason, doesn't mean I don't have one. Maybe I just didn't feel like having to justify every single thing I say because usually I assume that most people understand that people have their own opinions and can respect other peoples views.

Why do I hate it? I, for the most part, play games alone. The campaign (or whatever the stupid name they gave it was) was decent, up until half way through where you have unlocked all these characters, then lost them and had to basically replay a shorter version of the +/- 5 hours you just played to reunlock people. At that point, I said "this is stupid" and quit playing the campaign thing. Only other game I ever did that with was Halo once I got to the Library level. At least I felt the need to suffer through the horrid excuse for a game that Dragon Age Origins was to see the end, but Brawl couldn't even get me to do that. I did get verses mode (or whatever it was called) a shot and it appeared that they spent more time on level design that anything else, and the one or two levels I played on randomly killed me multiple times. As for tripping, when I rented it, I didn't even notice it. Plus, what the hell happened to Roy?

The original and Melee were great. The only thing about Melee I wish was different was the campaign being more random with paths or who you fought rather than being the same people in the same order every time with very slight variations (like Luigi instead of Mario) at times.

I play games for fun, and not competition, and the Brawl community isn't that great from what I've seen, so online play wouldn't be fun at all. Neither are all the rules you people make up like "final destination, no items, Fox only" that take all the fun out of the game. I have a lot more fun playing Playstation All Stars by myself or with my friends (except the one who obsessively plays it 30 hours a day) that I did with Brawl.

Assassin Xaero:
I absolutely hate people who lash out and attack people based on false assumptions instead of doing the mature thing...

Thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth.

xPixelatedx:
I have been wondering this for almost a year now. I didn't even know people hated it until sometime during the summer, when someone here informed me there was an audience who despised Brawl and loved Melee. I couldn't really understand that because no reason was given, and Brawl, to me, was just a bigger and better Melee.

It's way too floaty, everything just flowed and felt better in Melee to me. I didn't notice it in Brawl at first but as time went on the changes to the physics just bugged me. Also fuck tripping, there's no reason for it to exist.

Assassin Xaero:
Why do I hate it? I, for the most part, play games alone. The campaign (or whatever the stupid name they gave it was) was decent, up until half way through where you have unlocked all these characters, then lost them and had to basically replay a shorter version of the +/- 5 hours you just played to reunlock people. At that point, I said "this is stupid" and quit playing the campaign thing. Only other game I ever did that with was Halo once I got to the Library level. At least I felt the need to suffer through the horrid excuse for a game that Dragon Age Origins was to see the end, but Brawl couldn't even get me to do that. I did get verses mode (or whatever it was called) a shot and it appeared that they spent more time on level design that anything else, and the one or two levels I played on randomly killed me multiple times. As for tripping, when I rented it, I didn't even notice it. Plus, what the hell happened to Roy?

The original and Melee were great. The only thing about Melee I wish was different was the campaign being more random with paths or who you fought rather than being the same people in the same order every time with very slight variations (like Luigi instead of Mario) at times.

I play games for fun, and not competition, and the Brawl community isn't that great from what I've seen, so online play wouldn't be fun at all. Neither are all the rules you people make up like "final destination, no items, Fox only" that take all the fun out of the game. I have a lot more fun playing Playstation All Stars by myself or with my friends (except the one who obsessively plays it 30 hours a day) that I did with Brawl.

The only thing I gain from this is "I don't like Subspace Emissary", an optional part of the game.

I have no qualms with you hating an aspect of the game which is very different to the originals, however your entire argument for hating it is completely stupid. Before you even get to the great maze you're not even able to play as all of the characters... You only get the option of playing as the characters available for THAT SECTION of the story. When you reach the great maze you play a level as Kirby and just find the statues of the other characters in a short level. That's it.

And randomly killed by levels? Sorry but unless you just fell off or tried to attack an NPC on the level, then you're again completely wrong. And with that complaint, you might as well play no items fox only final destination. They even implemented the Melee levels if you wanted to play on those.

And complaining about a lack of Roy? Roy was only in one Fire Emblem game released years before. Not only was Marth in a few more of them, but he also featured in the remakes which were released soon after the release of Brawl. Ike was also featured in the more recent games on the Gamecube and Wii, he also had signature attacks, unlike Roy who only had the Sword of Seals (which was only visually represented by his flames).

And the community? You didn't even try to play it with others. You just say "it looks bad" and then complain about it.

Sorry, but from the reasons given, it just looks like you didn't like Smash Bros as a franchise, which is fine. It's either that or you just didn't like Subspace, which is also fine, however it isn't the same as hating Brawl. If you hate subspace then you hate subspace.

Shadowsetzer:

Tripping is only a quick example to why I don't like brawl, more reasons sure. No L-canceling. No wave dashing which most people who don't play competitively call cheating, multiple air-dodges (which when you think about it is a huge change), dash dancing is almost impossible and its not even because of tripping. Characters are way too floaty. It is much easier to come back to a ledge, you don't even have to be facing it. I mean these are reasons I can think of up the top of my head, telling you this alone you can see a good bit of the mechanics of the game where changed but I guess thats no legitimate reason either (Pff game-mechanics! hah!). I also forgot I'm entitled to my own opinion.

Edit: Also thanks Shadowsetzer for being mature enough to ask reasonably why I disliked it.

Game mechanics? No. Those were merely small features which didn't impact the game much and made it easier for newer players to play the game against their possibly more experienced friends. These are legitimate complaints, however, in my opinion they're not enough to absolutely hate a game over. When compared side by side, Brawl is just an updated version of Melee. If you're hating it because of 4 EXTREMELY minor things which were either removed or made more difficult, then it's just silly and petty. Characters being harder to push off the edge? I don't even see how that affects balance... It just stops none competitive players from being instantly wiped out...

Also, why should I maturely ask two people why they dislike a game when their initial comments amounted to "BRAWL SUCKED. MELEE WAS BETTER!"

A Smooth Criminal:

Assassin Xaero:
Why do I hate it? I, for the most part, play games alone. The campaign (or whatever the stupid name they gave it was) was decent, up until half way through where you have unlocked all these characters, then lost them and had to basically replay a shorter version of the +/- 5 hours you just played to reunlock people. At that point, I said "this is stupid" and quit playing the campaign thing. Only other game I ever did that with was Halo once I got to the Library level. At least I felt the need to suffer through the horrid excuse for a game that Dragon Age Origins was to see the end, but Brawl couldn't even get me to do that. I did get verses mode (or whatever it was called) a shot and it appeared that they spent more time on level design that anything else, and the one or two levels I played on randomly killed me multiple times. As for tripping, when I rented it, I didn't even notice it. Plus, what the hell happened to Roy?

The original and Melee were great. The only thing about Melee I wish was different was the campaign being more random with paths or who you fought rather than being the same people in the same order every time with very slight variations (like Luigi instead of Mario) at times.

I play games for fun, and not competition, and the Brawl community isn't that great from what I've seen, so online play wouldn't be fun at all. Neither are all the rules you people make up like "final destination, no items, Fox only" that take all the fun out of the game. I have a lot more fun playing Playstation All Stars by myself or with my friends (except the one who obsessively plays it 30 hours a day) that I did with Brawl.

The only thing I gain from this is "I don't like Subspace Emissary", an optional part of the game.

I have no qualms with you hating an aspect of the game which is very different to the originals, however your entire argument for hating it is completely stupid. Before you even get to the great maze you're not even able to play as all of the characters... You only get the option of playing as the characters available for THAT SECTION of the story. When you reach the great maze you play a level as Kirby and just find the statues of the other characters in a short level. That's it.

And randomly killed by levels? Sorry but unless you just fell off or tried to attack an NPC on the level, then you're again completely wrong. And with that complaint, you might as well play no items fox only final destination. They even implemented the Melee levels if you wanted to play on those.

And complaining about a lack of Roy? Roy was only in one Fire Emblem game released years before. Not only was Marth in a few more of them, but he also featured in the remakes which were released soon after the release of Brawl. Ike was also featured in the more recent games on the Gamecube and Wii, he also had signature attacks, unlike Roy who only had the Sword of Seals (which was only visually represented by his flames).

And the community? You didn't even try to play it with others. You just say "it looks bad" and then complain about it.

Sorry, but from the reasons given, it just looks like you didn't like Smash Bros as a franchise, which is fine. It's either that or you just didn't like Subspace, which is also fine, however it isn't the same as hating Brawl. If you hate subspace then you hate subspace.

I just didn't find the game enjoyable at all. Subspace or verses. As for the community. You're right, I didn't play online, but what I've seen from certain websites and from the people I saw playing it at college, the people who play it have this thing about attacking people who don't like it. They make up these lies about how they just "hate it because of tripping" and any reason a person gives for not liking it they discredit.

In short, get over it. I thought the game was bad and I didn't like it. It is called an opinion. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions are not absolute truth.

Assassin Xaero:

I just didn't find the game enjoyable at all. Subspace or verses. As for the community. You're right, I didn't play online, but what I've seen from certain websites and from the people I saw playing it at college, the people who play it have this thing about attacking people who don't like it. They make up these lies about how they just "hate it because of tripping" and any reason a person gives for not liking it they discredit.

In short, get over it. I thought the game was bad and I didn't like it. It is called an opinion. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions are not absolute truth.

Yeah, an opinion about something's quality is fine. If you back it up. Hell, even "It wasn't fun for me" is a legitimate reason to dislike a game, but that doesn't mean the game was bad. You didn't even say anything mature or noteworthy. You merely said "Hopefully this one doesn't suck as much as Brawl did.".

And lies about how people just hate a game because of tripping? Sorry but Call me Jose clearly stated that was why didn't like it. Maybe you yourself shouldn't attack people and make false accusations, especially considering that almost all of your reasons for hating brawl were lies themselves.

A Smooth Criminal:

Assassin Xaero:

I just didn't find the game enjoyable at all. Subspace or verses. As for the community. You're right, I didn't play online, but what I've seen from certain websites and from the people I saw playing it at college, the people who play it have this thing about attacking people who don't like it. They make up these lies about how they just "hate it because of tripping" and any reason a person gives for not liking it they discredit.

In short, get over it. I thought the game was bad and I didn't like it. It is called an opinion. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions are not absolute truth.

Yeah, an opinion about something's quality is fine. If you back it up. Hell, even "It wasn't fun for me" is a legitimate reason to dislike a game, but that doesn't mean the game was bad. You didn't even say anything mature or noteworthy. You merely said "Hopefully this one doesn't suck as much as Brawl did.".

And lies about how people just hate a game because of tripping? Sorry but Call me Jose clearly stated that was why didn't like it. Maybe you yourself shouldn't attack people and make false accusations, especially considering that almost all of your reasons for hating brawl were lies themselves.

Whatever. I don't really care anymore, that game sucked. Enjoy your fanboyism and your beloved boring game. Maybe some day (hopefully) you will learn that not everyone is you and learn to respect other peoples opinions.

A Smooth Criminal:
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I concur with Assassin, theres no reasoning here, neither did my first comment definitively pour out that tripping solely made me dislike (not hate) this game. You are functioning solely on assumptions, which are sadly misleading to yourself, and irrational and thats the nicest way of putting it. I apologize that you do not understand that only naming 4 changes off the top of my head and wasting my time pulling out thesis statement totally blows your mind. As well they are no way minor, they are game-changing. I, like Assassin Xaero am done here, enjoy your game.

 

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