Electronic Arts Suffers $45 Million Loss

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Daystar Clarion:
Hopefully this is a sign that people are getting sick of EA's terrible business practices.

Maybe EA'll have a change of heart and not act like twats anymore, but I doubt it.

Come on, Daystar. What is this, a Disney movie?

At any rate, I'd say I'm happy but honestly, I doubt EA is gonna realize the reason why they've lost so much money. I also doubt they'll care. Being the dicks that they are, some poor saps will get fired and they'll keep doing what they're doing. And we'll keep buying their games anyway.

doggie015:

harryhenry:

Genocidicles:

One can hope though... One can only hope.

It probably wont happen, yeah... but it's nice to think it will.

And put a bunch of talented people out of bisness?

If they have any REAL talent then they will easily be able to find other jobs. Just imagine the day when Bioware is freed from the shackles of EA's dungeon...

It just goes to show; treat your customers like sacks of money that want to steal your work and you end up losing money anyway!

Bioware exists only as a brand name now, the people who made it the great company it was have mostly jumped ship at this point.

In this respect, they are more comparable to Alienware than anything else.

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Perhaps this will help EA get their act together.

Oh burn Ea burn singing disco infern burn Ea burn

I want you to die a slow horrible death I want you feel the pain you caused other game makers I want you to suffer as you slowly die

Maybe if they add just a liiiiittle more DLC they'll start profiting again. Must be those darn pirates.

Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

harryhenry:

Genocidicles:

ShirowShirow:
EA's not going the way of THQ.

One can hope though... One can only hope.

It probably wont happen, yeah... but it's nice to think it will.

And put a bunch of talented people out of bisness?

better to put them out of business than to have them work for EA.

If EA falls, it won't just evaporate, everyone will be scrambling to pick up the pieces.

I'd rather EA learn from their mistakes.

And, seriously, it's hard finding jobs in this economy. I'm one of them trying to find work in the game industry, but the competition is SWAMPED with qualified people all vying for the same few open positions. It's a nightmare situation I wouldn't wish on anyone, let alone people working at studios under EA. I hope they keep their jobs. I hope they HIRE for more jobs. I want to work for EA if it means I find employment in this medium.

Ramen noodles quickly lose their flavor.

Shit marketing or shit economy. YOU DECIDED.

I wonder will this end up with more cutting the good stuff and edges off already round sphere or trying to make something new and innovative that doesn't make customer a criminal everytime he buys their product.

Also ORIGIN is still illegal as platform in Finland, they got a warning from CRB already and still haven't changed the contract to comply with Finnish law! After 2 years!

So I wonder does practices like these continue elsewhere. And if they do - no fucking wonder they are falling down the drain pipe in a maelstrom is so strong it would suck the universe with it.

Oh, the economy is definitely stronger (trust me, i do reports on economy for work), its just that your games havent gotten any better, and finally people are actually stopping and thinking: hey, if we got game x that is great, and then game y that is great from same company, why are we still buying this EA crap?

Then again, EAs slogan is challenge everything, and lately they seem to be challenging us and common sense a lot, so i guess they do stay true to thier nature.

Maybe they should stop hiring people to stick their fingers in their employees ears... you know... kill two birds with one stone

Singularly Datarific:
Maybe if they add just a liiiiittle more DLC they'll start profiting again. Must be those darn pirates.

THQ already tried that :P

I find it hard to believe that anyone at EA thought that Warfighter was going sell a reasonable number of units.

I hate how people rush to be gleeful at the sight of EA floundering. Many people, including a close member of my family, make their livings working for EA. They feed their families and pay the mortgage working for EA. They get up every morning and put in a full day's hard work working for EA.

Don't like EA's games? Don't buy them, no-one has a gun to your head forcing you. Just be mature enough to have cast the vote with your wallet, and refrain from smugly declaring 'wel its cos their dicks arnt they LOL'.

You make the strike against EA by not buying the games, and maybe that will cause a change in their practices. Gloating over what will probably result in a load of layoffs? That's just cold.

thebobmaster:
Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

I think I love you.

Aeonknight:
Guys... if you're going to hate EA at least hate em for the right reasons...

Warfighter was broken, glitchy shit. And this is coming from someone who generally buys their games. That's why it sold poorly, not cause EA is the devil when it comes to DLC or whatever gripe you have with them... they tried to sell a broken game and that idea failed. That's more Danger Close than EA's fault.

But much to your dismay I'm sure Battlefield 4 is right around the corner to turn things around a bit, assuming Dice doesn't royally jack up on the scale that Danger Close did.

It would have sold poorly even if it wasn't a buggy piece of crap

There no more room on the market for fucking Modern Military FPS, the people who wanna play Modern Military FPS are already playing CoD or Battlefield.

Sure, being broken, unplayable shite hurt it even more, but frankly with the launchday sales it had, it's clear that even if this hadn't been the case, it still wouldn't have come close to breaking even

thebobmaster:
Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

You can absolutely go bugger yourself.

It isn't the fucking market's responsibility to feel sorry for all the poor wittle drones that might get the boot when a fucking awful company that does fucking awful things gets the financial lashing it so rightly deserves

I hear this fucking non-argument every god damned time there's news about a company losing money, and it never ceases to piss me off.

Yes, we get it, you've found a way that you can feel smug and morally superior to everyone else, that's really nice, now please shut your fucking gob.

bringer of illumination:

thebobmaster:
Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

You can absolutely go bugger yourself.

It isn't the fucking market's responsibility to feel sorry for all the poor wittle drones that might get the boot when a fucking awful company that does fucking awful things gets the financial lashing it so rightly deserves

I hear this fucking non-argument every god damned time there's news about a company losing money, and it never ceases to piss me off.

Yes, we get it, you've found a way that you can feel smug and morally superior to everyone else, that's really nice, now please shut your fucking gob.

All right. As long as you stop acting smug and superior to EA, saying they deserve to go out of business completely because they make games you don't like.

Strazdas:
Oh, the economy is definitely stronger (trust me, i do reports on economy for work)

You mean for the same quarter that the US economy shrunk slightly? Because the quarter that EA is reporting for wasn't a great economy.

Also I think people need to put some things in perspective. Video games are a luxury product, they're one of the first things to go when belts need tightening. Especially the AAA releases that EA thrives on.

bringer of illumination:

You can absolutely go bugger yourself.

It isn't the fucking market's responsibility to feel sorry for all the poor wittle drones that might get the boot when a fucking awful company that does fucking awful things gets the financial lashing it so rightly deserves

I hear this fucking non-argument every god damned time there's news about a company losing money, and it never ceases to piss me off.

Yes, we get it, you've found a way that you can feel smug and morally superior to everyone else, that's really nice, now please shut your fucking gob.

I'll talk loudly so you can hear me from your high horse.

1. It's nobody's 'responsibility' to feel sorry for others. It's called empathy, and when we see people who might lose their jobs, it's a valid response to say 'that sucks'. Get the hell over yourself calling hard working people drones, and place the blame where it actually lies - with the people who make the decisions. If someone who makes absurd decisions and pisses people off loses their job, then that would be justified. But that never happens.

2. It's not a non-argument, it's just one you don't like and disagree with. It's perfectly valid to say 'this is bad news for this reason'.

3. Again, empathy. We have it. It seems like a conspicuous snipe from you about moral superiority, as there was no mention of that from our side - seems to me that someone's aware he's being spiteful, and is lashing out at us 'smug' people.

Kirov Reporting:

Don't like EA's games? Don't buy them, no-one has a gun to your head forcing you. Just be mature enough to have cast the vote with your wallet, and refrain from smugly declaring 'wel its cos their dicks arnt they LOL'.

Wallet ? Dude, be resonable. Half of these whiners are voting by "MOM, CAN I HAVE THIS ??", or are sitting in theirs parents basement, unemployed pretending to be cool on the net.

I simply don't believe any true adult would speak such nonsense like 'hating EA'. Seriosly. You hate them because they've bought some studios only to close them ? Well, welcome to the real world kids, it's called "takeover" and it's been around... like forever. Nobody forced previous owners to sell, so take your rage to them. What ? You think i.e. Bioware was lacking funds before EA era? Or just owners got greedy and sold the company to have a new lambo or two ? Whose fault is that ? EA's for buying ? Seriously guys, Game industry is INDUSTRY, deal with it. You don't like what EA produces - don't buy from them. End of story. I don't like Starbucks coffee, but I don't go and rant about it every time I see the damn thing.

DarkArk:

Strazdas:
Oh, the economy is definitely stronger (trust me, i do reports on economy for work)

You mean for the same quarter that the US economy shrunk slightly? Because the quarter that EA is reporting for wasn't a great economy.

Also I think people need to put some things in perspective. Video games are a luxury product, they're one of the first things to go when belts need tightening. Especially the AAA releases that EA thrives on.

so US is the only place where EA sell games?
Games are also a cheap entertainment option. People tightening belts may rather buy a 60 dollar game than go on a 600 dollar vacation if money becomes scarce. Videogames have the highest hour/dollar rate of all entertainment and as such it is the cheap mans luxury item of choice. drop in luxury consumption does not always mean drop in videogame consumption.

and im pretty sure €A will not learn from it and tries a even more ridicules way to piss customers off.

Strazdas:

DarkArk:

Strazdas:
Oh, the economy is definitely stronger (trust me, i do reports on economy for work)

You mean for the same quarter that the US economy shrunk slightly? Because the quarter that EA is reporting for wasn't a great economy.

Also I think people need to put some things in perspective. Video games are a luxury product, they're one of the first things to go when belts need tightening. Especially the AAA releases that EA thrives on.

so US is the only place where EA sell games?
Games are also a cheap entertainment option. People tightening belts may rather buy a 60 dollar game than go on a 600 dollar vacation if money becomes scarce. Videogames have the highest hour/dollar rate of all entertainment and as such it is the cheap mans luxury item of choice.

For someone who supposedly studies the economy you sure don't seem to know that much about it. You also didn't answer my points so do that. Hint: the US is a quarter of the global economy.

Games are also sold predominately to the under 35 population, namely the people who have been having an absolutely terrible time in the current situation.

Elithraradril:
I simply don't believe any true adult would speak such nonsense like 'hating EA'. Seriosly. You hate them because they've bought some studios only to close them ?

Yeah, pretty much. I have every single title of the Command&Conquer series, but shortly after the EA takeover it went down the crapper, and the latest installment I didn't even buy. Bioware too. Used to make great stuff. Still have Neverwinter Nights, played it for years, still occasionally do so. Ever since the takeover? Nothing's come out of the Bioware stables that lead me to think "Great, here, take my money".

The way EA has been destroying the videogame industry may be how commercial entrepreneurship works, but that doesn't cancel out the fact that it's bad for the games industry. Some would argue that creating a bubble and letting consumers burn is the way banking works, but would you tell people who have been scammed into losing their homes and entire lives need to shut up and accept that such scamming was fair?

thebobmaster:

bringer of illumination:
snipety snap

All right. As long as you stop acting smug and superior to EA, saying they deserve to go out of business completely because they make games you don't like.

You think this is just about making games I don't like?

The corpses of Westwood and Bullfrog called, they wanted me to tell you: Go fuck yourself.

The shambling violated haemonculus that Bioware has become would have called too, if only it was still capable of independent thought.

Kirov Reporting:

bringer of illumination:
Snuppety snop

I'll talk loudly so you can hear me from your high horse.

1. It's nobody's 'responsibility' to feel sorry for others. It's called empathy, and when we see people who might lose their jobs, it's a valid response to say 'that sucks'. Get the hell over yourself calling hard working people drones, and place the blame where it actually lies - with the people who make the decisions. If someone who makes absurd decisions and pisses people off loses their job, then that would be justified. But that never happens.

2. It's not a non-argument, it's just one you don't like and disagree with. It's perfectly valid to say 'this is bad news for this reason'.

3. Again, empathy. We have it. It seems like a conspicuous snipe from you about moral superiority, as there was no mention of that from our side - seems to me that someone's aware he's being spiteful, and is lashing out at us 'smug' people.

This isn't about "empathy" this is about coming into a space where people are celebrating because things are going wrong for the entity that has been continually ruining things they love for years and saying: "NOOOOOO!!!! YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY! THINK OF THE POOR EMPLOYEES! YOU GUYS ARE SO AWFUL!" In fact, it's worse than that, because what he said was a backhanded smug implication that everyone who hates EA must just hate the employees, when that makes no fucking sense.

And yes, it is a fucking non-argument, it makes as much sense as saying that we should let murderers walk free/be sad when they're put in prison because they have kids, yeah it sucks that the kid will have to go without his dad for the rest of his life, but ultimately, so fucking what?


EA played by Bart in this scene.

Seriously, how do you loose that much money!? Most people won't see that much cash in their lives, and EA managed to piss it into the wind.

Blablahb:

The way EA has been destroying the videogame industry may be how commercial entrepreneurship works, but that doesn't cancel out the fact that it's bad for the games industry.

Is it ? Lets think about it for a moment: don't ask "why EA bought them", but "why were they sold in the first place" ? There are several possibilities:
1) "magic" is gone, so lets turn what's left of it into the money. That means that the management lost interest in making games and "forcing it" won't give you a good game
2) studio was on financial downhill, so it would go bankrupt in the near future
3) The vital crew members left for whatever reasons (need of smth new, money, creative differences)
4) Owners are getting greedy and if not bought they would became EA/Activision etc. themself

My point is: you're not selling dev studio if everyone's enjoying they're work, earning lots of money etc.etc., so there was probably smth wrong with these companies, even if we didn't know about it yet.

Try to think about EA as carnivore - killing weakened, so others can have more space to exist. You can't simply blame them for what they are. We're slowly loosing Bioware ? So what, we've got CDProjectRed, Obsidian and others relatively new players. Cheer up.

bringer of illumination:

This isn't about "empathy" this is about coming into a space where people are celebrating because things are going wrong for the entity that has been continually ruining things they love for years and saying: "NOOOOOO!!!! YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY! THINK OF THE POOR EMPLOYEES! YOU GUYS ARE SO AWFUL!" In fact, it's worse than that, because what he said was a backhanded smug implication that everyone who hates EA must just hate the employees, when that makes no fucking sense.

And yes, it is a fucking non-argument, it makes as much sense as saying that we should let murderers walk free/be sad when they're put in prison because they have kids, yeah it sucks that the kid will have to go without his dad for the rest of his life, but ultimately, so fucking what?

Quick, say variations of 'fuck' a few more times, you don't appear to be enough of a renegade badass as it is.

There's no point in discussing this, because quite clearly our viewpoints are incompatible. If you want to celebrate a company losing money, knock yourself out- honestly, if I didn't have family who worked there, it's quite likely I wouldn't care half as much as I do about the fate of the place. However, I do, and as such if everyone gets fired and EA closes forever YAYAYAYAAWESOMEHYPERBOLE then that would have a significant impact.

Also, to address your tortuous analogy; Yes, you can damn sure feel sad that there's a kid who lost a parent. Yes, the father would be facing justice. The end (arguably) does justify the means, but that doesn't mean the kid isn't a victim too, and regardless if the father made the decision to commit murder (by the way, get over yourself with that comparison) the kid is still the one who has been made to suffer. Would you wave a 'hang the murderer' sign in the kid's face?

Good. Excellent.

I really want to play The Sims 3, SimCity and Battlefield3, but I will absolutely not associate with EA. I morally refuse to do business with them, and this has only vindicated my actions.

Keep voting with your wallets. It is working.

thebobmaster:
Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

JERBS JERBS JERBS JERBS.

This shit again. I don't accept that a shitty company with immoral and stupid practices should stay alive just because of the people who might lose their JEEERRRRRRRBS over its collapse. Companies fall and die due to shitty policies and methods all the damn time. It's how the business world works.

Goddamnit. All people care about is the here and now. As long as people have their precious fucking jobs that someone else should apparently provide for them, they don't care about any stitch of progress.

derple post

I'm surprised that EA thought that WARFIGHTER now was a bad idea.

It looked mediocre even by a CoD gaming community's low standards.

Oh EA you never cease to disappoint. I knew that this prediction would not take long to be fulfilled.

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Yes, yeeees. Burn!

$45 million loss, you say? Dance, then, wherever you may be!

Damn. It ain't gonna change a thing, but damn that's a lot of money.

thebobmaster:
Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!

Am I doing this right?

Finally! someone who i can agree with!

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