Skullgirls is Still Coming to PC

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Skullgirls is Still Coming to PC

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The Skullgirls team is still kicking.

Like many, I assumed the long-awaited PC port of beautifully-animated 2D fighter, Skullgirls, died when Reverge Labs laid off the entire team last June. I couldn't have been more wrong. According to a recent announcement from Lab Zero, a studio formed by the tattered remnants of the Skullgirls team, work on the PC port is about to begin.

The studio is in the final stages of signing an agreement with publisher, Marvelous AQL, to fund and publish the PC version of Skullgirls, and according to the announcement, we're looking at more than a cheap and nasty port.

"We presented Marvelous with two options: a relatively quick port that would mirror the feature set of the console releases, and a slower port with expanded multiplayer functionality such as lobbies," reads the announcement. "Marvelous AQL has graciously opted for the second option."

The project is expected to take around four months to complete, and apparently there will be a public beta. Expected delivery platforms include Gamefly, GamersGate, GameStop PC Download, Origin, and Steam. There's even talk of cross-platform play between the PC and PSN releases.

Of course, even if the port turns out to be terrible, we can still all look forward to yet another exciting debate about the game's alleged sexism.

Source: Skullgirls.com

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Luckily, whether or not it's sexist doesn't matter to me at all. People have the right to make any kind of content they want to make, provided that it's lawful. You in turn are entitled to buy it or not buy it.

Put it on the PC and I'll give you all my monies. Really glad to hear SG has been given another chance.

I didn't even know the team had layoffs.

Now if only they could have figured out a way to turn it into an RTS.

But the game IS totally sexist: there's not a single male character on the roster. Because apparently having semi sentient magically transforming hair is something only girls can do. >(

Quote from the article linked at the bottom of this one:

Bartholow puts a lot of stock in the fact that a woman, not a man, was the one who handled the animations. "She intentionally lavishes attention on the breasts herself because she thinks it's cool," he explained. "All the people who seem bothered by it are guys. It's a weird chivalry intent thing that's sort of misplaced and maybe shallow, even, because they see breasts and panty flashes and they go, that's sexist, but I've yet to meet a woman who has complained about it. They're over-thinking it."

Finally, somebody who has said what I have been unable to word properly. Not just in relation to sexism, but you constantly see in British culture people complaining about racism against Muslims, or homophobia where Muslims and homosexuals are perfectly fine with it, but overly sensitive non-Muslims and heterosexuals are trying to act politically correct. There is definitely a common occurrence where people not shown in a "bad light" take offence on behalf of those that supposedly are, when even them people don't give a damn about it.

OT: I like the craziness of the game. Their costumes are bizarre to say the least, but I have never really been into fighting games myself. The characters seem fairly interesting though, it's kind of funny how fighting games seem to have more characterisation than a lot of story based ones.

WANT

Fuck yes! I've been waiting for this game to come out on pc since before its release!

DVS BSTrD:
Now if only they could have figured out a way to turn it into an RTS.

But the game IS totally sexist: there's not a single male character on the roster. Because apparently having semi sentient magically transforming hair is something only girls can do. >(

Id love it if my hair could eat people... a MAW-hawk, if you will.

Now I will actually consider buying it, as I will no longer buy from live.

Oh my. I like beautiful female bodies. Thus, I am a sexist monster and I must die.

:P

I hope the PC port comes with Squigly.

twaddle:
I didn't even know the team had layoffs.

Same here :O

Either way I am pleased with this news (I don't owned a 360). I've been wanting to played that game when I first say the characters and the gameplay. It look so refreshing for a Western fighting game instead of the usual Easten games we get (nothing wrong with them it just that it rare to see a good fighting game that was made in the West).

Bartholow puts a lot of stock in the fact that a woman, not a man, was the one who handled the animations. "She intentionally lavishes attention on the breasts herself because she thinks it's cool," he explained. "All the people who seem bothered by it are guys. It's a weird chivalry intent thing that's sort of misplaced and maybe shallow, even, because they see breasts and panty flashes and they go, that's sexist, but I've yet to meet a woman who has complained about it. They're over-thinking it."

Anita who?

OT: Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. I have never been any good at fighting games, and I'm hoping that I can get over that with the tutorial in this.

Two more weeks
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Oh, sorry. Is- Is something actually happening?!

By the way, no news about how the sexist fighting game community raised more than U$ 225.000 dolars for breast cancer research? How the Smash community raised more than U$ 94k and the Skullgirls raised more than U$ 78k?

http://shoryuken.com/2013/02/01/fighting-game-fans-raise-over-225000-for-breast-cancer-research-smash-wins/

Why the cheap-shot? Seems like a Kotaku-ish thing to do.

DVS BSTrD:
Now if only they could have figured out a way to turn it into an RTS.

But the game IS totally sexist: there's not a single male character on the roster. Because apparently having semi sentient magically transforming hair is something only girls can do. >(

Technically, Samson is male so it's not that bad XD

Anyway I never got why people get up in arms about this. The fact that a girl was the artist makes the argument almost void. It's hard to be sexist against your own gender I would imagine.
Also thinking about it, the fact that people knee-jerk and go "No there MUST be a male character otherwise this is sexist filth!" is sexist itself right? I've actually yet to hear an actual girl complain about it. Guys crusading for no adequate reason.

Seriously, if you go into anything actively looking for sexism you ARE going to find it. Pretty obvious if you ask me.

Surely one token male character hastily added in before the game came out to avoid backlash would have been so shallow and pathetic. Perhaps even implying there was some truth behind the sexism allegations. Would anyone rather that have been the case?

Anyway on topic, cool. PC ports are welcome but for gods sake, the online community has been dead for many, many MONTHS now. At least on the 360. I keep hearing stuff about one patch that will bring everyone back to the game but honestly, I think it's beyond saving. I would love to be proven wrong but alas, i'm being realistic.

It was a really fun game as well. Shame. Now let's hope that the Persona 4 Arena online scene isn't absolutely barren as well once we Europeans get our hands on it. No, once we GET A RELEASE DATE for it even.

Fucks sake Atlus. Get your shit together.

twaddle:
I didn't even know the team had layoffs.

me ether, nor do i remeber hearing about a PC port, this pleases me, the PC could use a good fighter that ISN'T a tied to GFWL, unless it is :/ then i won't be getting it

Bartholow puts a lot of stock in the fact that a woman, not a man, was the one who handled the animations. "She intentionally lavishes attention on the breasts herself because she thinks it's cool," he explained. "All the people who seem bothered by it are guys. It's a weird chivalry intent thing that's sort of misplaced and maybe shallow, even, because they see breasts and panty flashes and they go, that's sexist, but I've yet to meet a woman who has complained about it. They're over-thinking it."

That is one the biggest loads of horse shit I have seen spewed out recently. The guy basically doesn't have the balls to say "Stop white-knighting! Doing that still won't get you laid!" Hey, Ahad, anecdotal evidence still doesn't stop your game from looking like masturbation material. You ain't some liberator of female sexuality, you're a not-quite-as-bad Frank Miller at best

Can't fucking wait!

I have gotten rid of my Xbox and PS3 awhile ago. I have missed this game ever so much.

Yes! I've been waiting so long for this!

Still butthurt over it not being part of EVO's line up though.

twaddle:
I didn't even know the team had layoffs.

That got me too. I haven't heard anything about this game in ages, let alone the developer team.

The Wykydtron:

DVS BSTrD:
Now if only they could have figured out a way to turn it into an RTS.

But the game IS totally sexist: there's not a single male character on the roster. Because apparently having semi sentient magically transforming hair is something only girls can do. >(

Technically, Samson is male so it's not that bad XD

Anyway I never got why people get up in arms about this. The fact that a girl was the artist makes the argument almost void. It's hard to be sexist against your own gender I would imagine.
Also thinking about it, the fact that people knee-jerk and go "No there MUST be a male character otherwise this is sexist filth!" is sexist itself right? I've actually yet to hear an actual girl complain about it. Guys crusading for no adequate reason.

How would you know a 'girl' hasn't complained about it? I find it pretty hilarious people constantly accuse me of being a white knight who cannot understand what women really want if I voice an opinion about feminism.

As for the game, the only thing I have a problem with was the 'Hey, a woman made it, so it can't be sexist!' which is BS. Women can very well conform to sexist norms and push traditional gender values and sexism, just look at Twilight or 50 shades, both written by women.

When I was growing up, it was always my grandmother who would tell me I wasn't acting 'like a proper girl', my grandfather was happy that I was interested in the same stuff he was.

Do I think Skullgirls is sexist? Maybe, but it's not a problem. It knows what it is. (I don't have an issue with DOA either. It is what it is. If those female characters were in a game that's supposed to be taken seriously as a story and the men looked just like normal people, then ,yeah)
Do I think it's dumb to dismiss any criticism if some of the developers happen to have boobs? Yes.

Lieju:

How would you know a 'girl' hasn't complained about it? I find it pretty hilarious people constantly accuse me of being a white knight who cannot understand what women really want if I voice an opinion about feminism.

As for the game, the only thing I have a problem with was the 'Hey, a woman made it, so it can't be sexist!' which is BS. Women can very well conform to sexist norms and push traditional gender values and sexism, just look at Twilight or 50 shades, both written by women.

When I was growing up, it was always my grandmother who would tell me I wasn't acting 'like a proper girl', my grandfather was happy that I was interested in the same stuff he was.

Do I think Skullgirls is sexist? Maybe, but it's not a problem. It knows what it is. (I don't have an issue with DOA either. It is what it is. If those female characters were in a game that's supposed to be taken seriously as a story and the men looked just like normal people, then ,yeah)
Do I think it's dumb to dismiss any criticism if some of the developers happen to have boobs? Yes.

Why a woman having breast fantasies similar to guys is wrong? That seems sexist to me.

But she IS thinking about idealized forms, so it is a sexist thought.

And 50 shades is about a submissive women (sexist against women) and a billionaire (not a janitor or cab driver, sexist against guys).

And in FPSs games you are either a ridiculous badass or forgetable fodder to die (sexist against men).

Fantasy is hardly fair. Any idealization of people put them in a role that doensn't correspond to all of them in reality. All women mothers? Sexist. All women heroines? Sexist. All men badasses? Sexist. All men modeled like shoujo manga? Sexist.

I guess the best we can do is having a healthy balance between idealization and reality, and between the different kind of fantasies.

That said, it is truth that some kinds of characters are missing in the video game world. There are advances though, even if they come from other media. Wreck-It Ralph had two fantastic female characters who are out of the Disney norm.

Wrapping this up: The design of Skullgirls, and I guess Dead or Alive too, came from people who really apreciated and enjoyed it, rather than from a cheap attempt to market it to pervs. The artists liked monster girls way before the game. True art, not market. Forcing them to make other type of design would be like producers demanding the designs of the females of a realistic game to be fanservice.

Grahav:

Why a woman having breast fantasies similar to guys is wrong? That seems sexist to me.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Grahav:

And 50 shades is about a submissive women (sexist against women) and a billionaire (not a janitor or cab driver, sexist against guys).

The problem with 50 Shades is about a manipulative, abusive relationship, that's glorified. It's about how the best thing that could happen to a woman is to get a man that will come and take control of your life. (And I'm not talking about the BDSM-stuff here.) The only way she is allowed to have power over him is with the purity of her love and virginity, both the kind of traditional ways women were allowed to be influental.
Also, an older woman taking sexual advantage of a boy is not given the weight it deserves. (Sexism against men? Bad writing? Both? You decide!)

A fantasy is a fantasy. It has it's place. Big-breated bimbos that are treated as just objects (although is that what men really want?) is okay in a fantasy. But if we have a story sold for a wider audience, and not just a masturbatory fantasy, that's not okay.

Grahav:

And in FPSs games you are either a ridiculous badass or forgetable fodder to die (sexist against men).

Fantasy is hardly fair. Any idealization of people put them in a role that doensn't correspond to all of them in reality. All women mothers? Sexist. All women heroines? Sexist. All men badasses? Sexist. All men modeled like shoujo manga? Sexist.

I guess the best we can do is having a healthy balance between idealization and reality, and between the different kind of fantasies.

What we need is more diversity. Sexism tends to affect both sexes.
It's really sad the kind of sexism against men I see a lot, often from other men; if you're not tough enough, not succesfull enough with the ladies (or gay) you're not a 'real man'...

As a kid, there were boys I played with but who would call me names and act like jerks when other boys were present, because I was a girl. Because, you know, boys who play with girls are pussies.

Lieju:

Grahav:

Why a woman having breast fantasies similar to guys is wrong? That seems sexist to me.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I am just saying, that sometimes a person may be happy with something that may be labeled as "influence of the oppressors/enemies" and be criticized by that. A guy who really likes football may be a "dumb macho jerk" while a hairdresser may be a "faggot", a housewife is "a slave to the patriarchy" and a woman who is a mechanical engineer is a "dyke".

Lieju:

Grahav:

And 50 shades is about a submissive women (sexist against women) and a billionaire (not a janitor or cab driver, sexist against guys).

The problem with 50 Shades is about a manipulative, abusive relationship, that's glorified. It's about how the best thing that could happen to a woman is to get a man that will come and take control of your life. (And I'm not talking about the BDSM-stuff here.) The only way she is allowed to have power over him is with the purity of her love and virginity, both the kind of traditional ways women were allowed to be influental.
Also, an older woman taking sexual advantage of a boy is not given the weight it deserves. (Sexism against men? Bad writing? Both? You decide!)

A fantasy is a fantasy. It has it's place. Big-breated bimbos that are treated as just objects (although is that what men really want?) is okay in a fantasy. But if we have a story sold for a wider audience, and not just a masturbatory fantasy, that's not okay.

It is not okay, if people take it a face value. But then what? Are we going to censor dangerous stories? That is kind of dangerous.

When it comes to those kinds of things, the best is to let people read it and have faith that common sense and good criticism prevail. The best result won't always happen, unfortunately, but the altenative is burning books.

Lieju:

Grahav:

And in FPSs games you are either a ridiculous badass or forgetable fodder to die (sexist against men).

Fantasy is hardly fair. Any idealization of people put them in a role that doensn't correspond to all of them in reality. All women mothers? Sexist. All women heroines? Sexist. All men badasses? Sexist. All men modeled like shoujo manga? Sexist.

I guess the best we can do is having a healthy balance between idealization and reality, and between the different kind of fantasies.

What we need is more diversity. Sexism tends to affect both sexes.
It's really sad the kind of sexism against men I see a lot, often from other men; if you're not tough enough, not succesfull enough with the ladies (or gay) you're not a 'real man'...

As a kid, there were boys I played with but who would call me names and act like jerks when other boys were present, because I was a girl. Because, you know, boys who play with girls are pussies.

When I said "different kind of fantasies" I was addressing diversity too. Oh well, we agree on that.

As a kid I used to spend most of my time in the library and with books. I was very awkard socially, so school was hell, all of it. University was a healing time (good people around me). Being a nerd in Rio de Janeiro in the 90's was a very lonely experience.

Grahav:

It is not okay, if people take it a face value. But then what? Are we going to censor dangerous stories? That is kind of dangerous.

When it comes to those kinds of things, the best is to let people read it and have faith that common sense and good criticism prevail. The best result won't always happen, unfortunately, but the altenative is burning books.

And have I ever advocated sencorship or burning books/games? No.

What I do is criticize. Just like I can criticize a game for having bad gameplay or ugly visual style, I can criticize it for being sexist/racist/homophobic/advocating drowning bunnies.

What you need is discussion. I'm sick and tired of being accused of advocating censorship if I dare criticize something. If I hate RE5 for being too actiony and not enough horror, am I advocating censorship of action-games and legistlation that all games should have horror in them?

Lieju:

Grahav:

It is not okay, if people take it a face value. But then what? Are we going to censor dangerous stories? That is kind of dangerous.

When it comes to those kinds of things, the best is to let people read it and have faith that common sense and good criticism prevail. The best result won't always happen, unfortunately, but the altenative is burning books.

And have I ever advocated sencorship or burning books/games? No.

What I do is criticize. Just like I can criticize a game for having bad gameplay or ugly visual style, I can criticize it for being sexist/racist/homophobic/advocating drowning bunnies.

What you need is discussion. I'm sick and tired of being accused of advocating censorship if I dare criticize something. If I hate RE5 for being too actiony and not enough horror, am I advocating censorship of action-games and legistlation that all games should have horror in them?

Whoops! Sorry, I read too much in your previous statement.

Edit: But it seems we basically agree. So I guess this is it. It was a good conversation.

Grey Carter:
"We presented Marvelous with two options: a relatively quick port that would mirror the feature set of the console releases, and a slower port with expanded multiplayer functionality such as lobbies," reads the announcement. "Marvelous AQL has graciously opted for the second option."

What's this? Someone in the gaming industry made a sensible decision? Am I high?

That reminds me:

I remember hearing that the creators were going to put in extra characters into the game. It's been a while since I last played the game, have they ever got around to doing that? Or were they laid off before they could?

DVS BSTrD:

But the game IS totally sexist: there's not a single male character on the roster. Because apparently having semi sentient magically transforming hair is something only girls can do. >(

BoboboboBobobo called and wished to disagree with that point and his nosehair agrees.

OT: Can't wait, actually wanted to play this when it came out but couldn't due to it not being on PC.

MonkeyPunch:
Why the cheap-shot? Seems like a Kotaku-ish thing to do.

The Escapist staff put their own interpretation into the articles. The articles are not meant to be pure news, though they could do a better job communicating this.

Also it's Grey Carter, he does critical miss.

Oh I love me some 2D fighters. The more 2D fighters, the better. I can't say I "can't wait", but I've always been interested in this.

Legion:
Quote from the article linked at the bottom of this one:

Bartholow puts a lot of stock in the fact that a woman, not a man, was the one who handled the animations. "She intentionally lavishes attention on the breasts herself because she thinks it's cool," he explained. "All the people who seem bothered by it are guys. It's a weird chivalry intent thing that's sort of misplaced and maybe shallow, even, because they see breasts and panty flashes and they go, that's sexist, but I've yet to meet a woman who has complained about it. They're over-thinking it."

Finally, somebody who has said what I have been unable to word properly.

The proper word for those kinda people are whiteknights.

And they are scum :P

This is good news.
Now I just wait and hope that it doesn't come with something stupid like Games for Windows Live.

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