Ubisoft Says Gamers Just Don't Understand The Wii U

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Perhaps this is true. I certainly don't "get it", which is why I haven't gotten it. I'm not sure why I'd want it, what games I can play on it. All I know is that I remember reading it has some bullshit always-on Wii-Mi social network bollocks. The thing is Nintendo, I want to put in a disc, and play a game, with a controller. I don't want to dance around or flap my arms up and down, I don't want to make a cake or stroke a cat. Unless it's a game in which I get to be Blofeld, and I can spin in my chair to banter with Sean Connery.

I certainly do understand that there aren't enough good games for it (yet) for me to buy the system (yet?) because Nintendo was in such a rush to get it out the door. They didn't even bother finishing the firmware before shipping and good games are going to take longer.

Personally, I believe the problem is that they (publishers or Nintendo) thought they had another Wii on their hands.

The Wii, at least from where I stood through it all, was a bit of a fluke. A Tickle-Me-Elmo all over again. They were flying off the store shelves like mad, and when you knew a place that had one you found the money or went bankrupt trying to get it, but the software was bad. Games were so horrible I even bought that obnoxious Far Cry game for it! And this was all before the Virtual Console.

The WiiU just isn't going to put up the sales numbers like the Wii did, and probably no one else will be able to replicate it either. Like any other consumer fad, it comes and goes, never to be seen again.

Then again, I don't play my Wii and only have it for the bad Metroid Prime ports I bought (GameCube versions really were better). I don't particularly see the allure in having a gamepad when I'm single and live alone, plus owning an iPad and a Vita, not to mention money is short...

*sigh* Things can't keep growing! Somewhere, somehow, the money does stop. Just saying Ubisoft...

I won't personally buy it because A) The library sucks. B) It's worse than my PC in terms of performance. C) It's too expensive. D) I don't want a ton of gimmicky controllers. E) The hard drive space is terribly low. F) The battery life is apparently low too. G) I don't trust Nintendo to get any good titles on the platform in the future.

So many many possible reasons not to get one.

Carpal Tunneling into a giant brick of a handheld, staring into a tiny screen while sitting in front of a giant superior screen wishing I was holding a real controller and not a supersized VHS cassette?

What's not to love?

Maybe I am just being selfish wanting a console that just focuses on the games. I am asking myself "Why is my console now a multi-media center and not a console?"

So if we run this through the bullshit translator:
"Oh shit we sunk all this money into WiiU titles but it's not the hottest thing on the market, quick quick someone make absurd statements to raise awareness!"

Ahh yes, the gaming industry's go-to explanation for terrible sales:

"You idiot gamers just don't understand our product!"

Eh, there's no games that interest me on the system. That's the reason I don't give a shit about it.

It's not that gamers don't "get" the WiiU. It's that we don't "Need" the WiiU. After all that we have been subjected to, we recognize a gimmick when we are handed one. And we are getting more and more sick of them. We are skipping the WiiU because it does not do what we have wanted in a next gen console. We want a huge performance boost. True HD. Huge storage. For many of us the WiiU's "assymetric" dual screens is at best a vaguelly cute gimmick, kinda like a cute cat picture on the internet. We may look at it, but we really don't want it in our house. We get a better touch gaming experience from our iPads and we can take those on the bus.

Casual Shinji:
Owwww, one thing you don't tell us geeks about anything is that we "don't get it". Because then what we do get is annoyed and possibly mad.

Anyway, if compared to the Wii the WiiU is obviously going to have disappointing sales. The Wii simply had crazy buzz and family fun appeal to it. Still, I'm more interested in the WiiU than I ever was for the Wii, but that might just be because of Wind Waker HD.

Haha, this is so true. The moment I read the headline I thought "Fuck you Ubisoft, I know damn well why I don't want a WiiU." then I read the actual quote and thought "Double fuck you." You can't help but get a bit mad when someone tells you "You can't possibly understand."

I love how every time a company tries something new that ends up flopping, it's not because it turns out the new thing was just a bad idea (it's alright to admit to a bad idea, Game Industry Person, everyone has them). No, it couldn't possibly have been a bad idea, it HAS to be because the gamer community is too stupid/dense to understand it.

Oh I get it. It's like a hipster thing. You have buy it ironically. And then it's only fun if you've been drinking a lot of Padst and you're listening to Radiohead.

That the Wii-U isn't selling well is a myth. It is bullshit by any real world analysis.

For reference, the Xbox 360 sold about 1.5 million units from it's launch in mid-November 2005 to the end of the year.
The PS3 sold about 1.68 million units from it's launch in mid-November 2006 to the end of the year.
The Wii sold 3.2 million in about the same time frame as the PS3.

The Wii-U? 3 million units, from mid-November 2012 to the end of the year. Didn't quite beat the Wii, but do remember that the Wii was selling at about 2/3rds the price of the Wii-U, and was doing so as we were nearing the peak of the bubble when everybody felt wealthy.

The only way it's "not selling well" is in comparison to Nintendo's and various analysts completely made up launch numbers of what they thought it should sell at. Launch numbers which have never been attained by any console -- ever. Seriously, they were talking as if it would sell 5 million units.. in this economy, at this price point. And compared to that, yeah, it's pretty slow.

Except that latest figures put the Wii-U's attach rate at 3.8 or so. That's over double the Wii's initial attach rate.

So.. an attach rate double that of the Wii, with unit sales nearly equal, and about double the comparable launches of Xbox 360 and PS3.

Were I a software developer, that's a definite "Ka-ching" market.

All these stories about the Wii-U having slow sales and slow attach rates are because of idiot analysts who made up wild expectations based on.. well.. whatever they could pull out of their arse.

The WiiU is going to "win" this console generation, there's no doubt in my mind, after Sony patented it's disturbing anti-used games system, and the rumors that Microsoft may be doing the same, the WiiU will be the only place to play used games, do you know how many games enthusiasts will JUMP on the WiiU if Sony and Microsoft really are both removing an absolutely integral part of the games market?
Mark my words, the WiiU WILL reap the crop of Sony and Microsoft's failure.

Kwil:
That the Wii-U isn't selling well is a myth. It is bullshit by any real world analysis.

For reference, the Xbox 360 sold about 1.5 million units from it's launch in mid-November 2005 to the end of the year.
The PS3 sold about 1.68 million units from it's launch in mid-November 2006 to the end of the year.
The Wii sold 3.2 million in about the same time frame as the PS3.

The Wii-U? 3 million units, from mid-November 2012 to the end of the year. Didn't quite beat the Wii, but do remember that the Wii was selling at about 2/3rds the price of the Wii-U, and was doing so as we were nearing the peak of the bubble when everybody felt wealthy.

The only way it's "not selling well" is in comparison to Nintendo's and various analysts completely made up launch numbers of what they thought it should sell at. Launch numbers which have never been attained by any console -- ever. Seriously, they were talking as if it would sell 5 million units.. in this economy, at this price point. And compared to that, yeah, it's pretty slow.

Except that latest figures put the Wii-U's attach rate at 3.8 or so. That's over double the Wii's initial attach rate.

So.. an attach rate double that of the Wii, with unit sales nearly equal, and about double the comparable launches of Xbox 360 and PS3.

Were I a software developer, that's a definite "Ka-ching" market.

All these stories about the Wii-U having slow sales and slow attach rates are because of idiot analysts who made up wild expectations based on.. well.. whatever they could pull out of their arse.

I'm sure the Wii U's sales will look good in comparison once the PS4/Nextbox launch.

I haven't seen any evidence so far that developers and publishers understand the Wii U anymore than gamers.

Scribblesense:
I'm sure the Wii U's sales will look good in comparison once the PS4/Nextbox launch.

Honestly? I don't know about that. You're probably right, but I think one thing the Wii definitely did, that most people don't recognize, is expose an entirely new audience to gaming. So if MS or Sony comes out with a well priced next-gen console, their sales might well be very comparable to the Wii-U as the Wii audience starts to move upstream looking for better experiences than the Wii can provide.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see the new Xbox with Kinect built in pick up a lot of the Wii upgraders.. especially if they launch with some really good games and marketing that showcases them well.

"What is to blame for the Wii U's slow start?" Lack of games, plain and simple, I still don't regret buying my system just for ZombiU but it desperaly needs more quality titles and not just a New Mario and 1-2 others... but once Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 2 or Pikmin 3 (I think is the nearest one to relese) are out hopefully the Wii U will be start selling again.

While I am in agreement that gamers are underestimating the system and great things that can be done with a setup like this, they are not going to understand it out of context. In other words, there needs to be games out there that show the awesome things that can be done with this type of setup. Those games must also appeal to gamers in general.

Also, those Justin Bieber splashes are annoying. Selena Gomez isn't so bad on the eyes, but stop with it already. I know it's advertising, but I'm tired of looking at Justin Bieber. As a side not, I do find it funny how they constantly show him with really short or no sleeves, and he has those girly little arms.

Gmans uncle:
The WiiU is going to "win" this console generation, there's no doubt in my mind, after Sony patented it's disturbing anti-used games system, and the rumors that Microsoft may be doing the same, the WiiU will be the only place to play used games, do you know how many games enthusiasts will JUMP on the WiiU if Sony and Microsoft really are both removing an absolutely integral part of the games market?
Mark my words, the WiiU WILL reap the crop of Sony and Microsoft's failure.

If the PS4 and Xbox720 rumors are true, then you're probably right. The core gaming demographic typically uses the money from selling old games to buy new games. The vast majority of the video game enthusiasts are not going to buy a console where the concept of ownership is stripped from them and the games are still costing $60. The Playstation and Xbox will only remain attractive to the hardest of the hard-core, people who can and do buy their games new on launch day and never sell them whether they like them or not. With only a few exceptions, I predict every developer and publisher would face financial disaster or run screaming to Nintendo because the average person is not going to buy a $60 game they can never sell.

Or maybe because it doesn't have a very strong library of games yet?
Or that most people are holding onto their cash these days?
Some current hiccups concerning the system's online services?
A name that most casual consumers will assume is some sort of add-on to the Wii?
Lack of publicity? (at least here in the States; hardly heard a thing about the Wii U outside of gaming related news outlets)

The list goes on and on. Plus most people don't buy a newly-released console so soon anyway. If you wait a few years you'll be getting better deals on better versions of a console so why buy in right out of the gate in the first place? (Other than being among the first to experience it, obviously.)

Give yourself time, Nintendo. Release some games, build Wii U recognition, profits will follow.

I can't help but think he was misquoted. I am sure, since he theoretically has a fully functioning brain he actually said 'Gamers don't WANT to get it'.

It's not so much that the Wii U is a bad console, it's just that Nintendo have finally caught up to the 360 and PS3, who are about to pass the gamer baton to their relay partners the 720 and PS4. That and most gamers who have noticed how often Nintendo keep essentially reselling their main franchises which is exclusive to their console, at least with Microsoft and Sony they are going with new IPs to milk to death.

The Wii U has some interesting ideas, but unless they release Pokemon Snap 2 (and yes, this is the ONLY reason I am not jumping on this console) I don't care about the Wii U. If Nintendo were to catch upto gaming ideas in this millenium, then I will give them a chance.

Oh, and if any Nintendo fans try and say that the new Mario, Zelda, Pokemon games are from this millenium, I would like to point out how little the overall game design has changed. Mario will always have to save his Stockholm Syndrome infested 'best friend', Link will always have to save Zelda/Hyrule, and Pokemon will always involve the three same starters and becoming the Pokemon 'Champion'. And yes, I know they are adding a third dimension to this franchise... I just don't care

Normally I'd dispute this, but considering that everyone seems to say "better than expected," this Ubisoft claim may have some merit.

Its all about the games and right now the line up is fairly weak. If Nintendo would hurry up and get some good games out for it I am sure the system would start selling better.

I kinda figure the slow start is due to some of the truly abysmal horror stories that arose when people first got the console on launch. Does the Wii U still require that massive software update at start up that bricks your console if it gets interrupted for any reason?

The Wii U is too expensive with little pay off, as in little selection of games or at least games that haven come out yet and will not be out for quite some time.

I like the look of the Wii U and it's pretty fun, but it suffers from no involvement from Nintendo! they were giving the Wii a good name and advertised it well but the Wii U they were like "here's our new console... Screw it, lets not show any adds or even try to explain it"

And of course good games can (and probably will) be made for it but that's only from other developers with not much help form Nintendo (and lets not forget how long some of the games take a very, very, very long time to make). Lets hope that Nintendo doesn't make a dumb choice in abandoning this console too early.

Coming from one that has the WiiU, the system is off to a damn dismal start because NO GAMES WORTH A SHIT ARE ON THE SYSTEM! Why own this system when there's not even 1 system selling game for it?! I feel like a sucker at this point because the damn thing has done little beyond gather dust since 1 week after I bought it. It's a good thing I had a beat up old 360 to trade for it cause I'd be bummed spending cash on the WiiU.

The system is a waste of space right now, Nintendo is surely filled with dipshits that are still WAY out of touch with "core" gamers and sadly it doesn't appear to be rectifying itself soon. Nothing short of a few worthwhile NEW IP's or bringing back a few of their ancient, whooped like a dead horse IP's will repair their slow sales. I would actually buy a new Metroid or a new Zelda (maybe) but fuck all the crap they've been dropping on us lately. Balloon Fight?! You have to be fucking kidding me you dipshit mofo's, no one wants to play that kind of shit when you have some of the best games on the planet sitting in your backlog waiting to be repackaged for WiiU.

Suck my balls Nintendo, you guys are fucking idiots...

*whew*

What kind of stupid argument is this to make??

If we don't understand it, that is absolutely Nintendo's fault.

I tried it out at the local gamestop and simply thought it was dumb... I don't like switching from looking down to up all the time.

Ladies and gentlemen, these are the people who now hold the fate of The Stick of Truth in their hands. We are in some deep shit unless it is taken away from them.

Well I'm prepared to admit I've probably dimissed it as a gimmick a bit too readily, and I'm certainly approaching it the way one would expect a successor to the Wii to be approached. But I'm not going to buy a console and games for it just to set my opinion straight, and what I've seen so far from asymmetrical gaming is interesting and a bit of fun but ultimately not something that is going to have a large application in serious games. There are a lot of things I can think of that would be fun to do involving two players like this, for example the RTS/FPS duality that sounds like great fun, but I doubt that's going to come from Nintendo.

Bit condescending to suggest that people just don't understand it, but then again, I'm not sure that's what they're actually getting at. They want people to give it a chance. Which isn't going to happen where hundreds of dollars are involved I'm afraid.

Nicolaus99:
Carpal Tunneling into a giant brick of a handheld, staring into a tiny screen while sitting in front of a giant superior screen wishing I was holding a real controller and not a supersized VHS cassette?

What's not to love?

This made my day. I'm also 100% in agreement.

OT: terrible PR is standard in the industry but Ubisoft continues to blow me away with their ability to have people come out and consistently say exactly the wrong thing.

"...The whole idea of the asymmetrical gameplay and using two screens to do two very different things is not simple to explain to people."
You mean what the DS did and most games barely used? Where the best use usually was bottom screen does menus, top screen does game? That's not worth the investment, I have 2 screens on my PC, one is for painting as it's a tablet and it's only really good for work and previewing websites on smaller screens, the other screen does all the media and normal stuff. I don't ever really think 2 screens is worth the investment for gaming, I don't even use my screens together for gaming.

I've never heard a credible defense for use of 2 screens in gaming. It never works out for the majority of games and winds up as something forced upon a game that makes the experience worse. It almost always comes across forced and when something isn't forced it's just a useless screen to have.
It's a neat idea to have the controller screen take over when the TV is in use but that's not worth the cash either.

I'll give Nintendo credit: marketing a technologically inferior piece of shit with a "second screen" gimmick that competitors will probably incorporate for compatibility with iOS/Android/Windows Phone devices all of us already have takes courage.

Courage, or stupidity. Gaming is steadily becoming less and less proprietary, and Nintendo is the industry's dinosaur; only a matter of time before it goes extinct.

Soxafloppin:
I'l probably get flak for this but I think it may be to do with people being so disappointed with the Wii.

A lot of people bought the wii, there was a good bit of buzz going around but plenty of people got bored fast and may be thinking "I'm not falling for that again" . I'm not hating or anything I'm cool with the Wii/U.

Yeeeep, that's part of it, for certain. How many games can you name "best of generation" that are on the Wii? Mass Effect? Bioshock? Half-Life 2? Portal/Portal 2? BlazBlue?

I'm getting a 3DS solely for Fire Emblem Awakening, but not even SMT x Fire Emblem is going to convince me to get a Wii U.

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