EA Expects New Consoles Aren't Backwards Compatible

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FalloutJack:

Strazdas:
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The image is a time-honored running gag played for laughs. YOUR argument is invalid.

i am well aware of the origins of the image, however the argument you were making was invalidated by this image due to misuse of the image.

Strazdas:

FalloutJack:

Strazdas:
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The image is a time-honored running gag played for laughs. YOUR argument is invalid.

i am well aware of the origins of the image, however the argument you were making was invalidated by this image due to misuse of the image.

No it wasn't. Your argument to invalidate my argument is invalidated by the total validity of my proper use of the images, which is valid. So HAH!

Ok, new rule Microsoft and Sony:

IF you're not going to make your consoles backwards compatible for the hard copies, you must put the majority of all previous titles from at least 3 previous generations prior on your downloadable network, and make them available for 3.99 or less for all n-2 gen games and 99 cents for each n-3 gen game, rarity be damned, it's downloadable now so it matters not.

FalloutJack:

Strazdas:

FalloutJack:

The image is a time-honored running gag played for laughs. YOUR argument is invalid.

i am well aware of the origins of the image, however the argument you were making was invalidated by this image due to misuse of the image.

No it wasn't. Your argument to invalidate my argument is invalidated by the total validity of my proper use of the images, which is valid. So HAH!

Your attempt to confuse me was unsuccessful.
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Strazdas:
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You're a very silly man and I'm not going to interview you.

RicoADF:

surg3n:

Sleekit:
it may be many things but it's not "a myth".

there's no reason at all consoles can't emulate prior generations. it's not particularly hard to write an emulator especially if you are as technically familiar with the hardware as the actual hardware manufacturers.

But the current generation isn't backwards compatible - having to download a patch to play a game, having to download a special version, having to emulate is not backwards compatibility. I can't take an XBox game and play it on a 360, I can't take a PS2 or PS1 game and play it on a PS3... at least not without the game being adjusted to work on the new hardware. Nothing would be cooler than having real, 100% backwards compatibility, but it doesn't exist, not in the way that Sony and M$ claim.

*pulls out his first game he ever owned, V-Rally on PSX, puts it in PS3 and plays a race. Takes game out and puts back, then pulls out Killzone from PS2 and proceeds to play that for a few mins*...... I don't know what backwards comparability means to you, but PS3 was quite capable on the first generation of consoles.

Pulls out Oddworld for PS1 because he misses it, and his PC can't run it... not work.
Pulls out Killzone for PS2 because it's awesome... not work.
Sits and wonders why Sony hates him, why my PS3 has to be less functional than other peoples.
Pulls out an XBox game that isn't Halo2 and tries it on his 360... not work.
Sits and wonders why M$ hates him as well.

I know what backwards compatibility means to me, it means the ability to play previous generation games on current generation hardware. If that works for you, then awesome - hope you have a blast. It doesn't work on my PS3, simple as that - I'm not lying or exagerating.

I've been around long enough to remember when both new PS3 and PS2 games were being released at the same time as the PS2 slowly lost popularity and new titles. Apparently I'm either older then everyone at EA, have a longer memory then them, or am better at predict the future based on the past because I can only think "well... duh".

EA doesn't make consoles and its voodoo futurists as just as inaccurate as anyone else's so I don't particularly care about there predicts especially since its based on information that is only rumored.

FalloutJack:

Strazdas:
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You're a very silly man and I'm not going to interview you.

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What are those words coming out of your month, they dont seem like words.

These words of mine are not words, but that of...BAKING!

This commedic aside was a public service. We now return you to your normmal thread topic, already in progress.

was that "ever-dieing" remark tounge in cheek? otherwise ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Atmos Duality:
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Its a tradition!

honestly though I think were all a little sick of that bullshit..I recently just got myself a new monster computer and after trying out far cry 3 on ultra saying "PC gaming is dying" feels about as vaild as "the wrolds gonna end!" people keep saying it...yet things just keep going

Desert Punk:
I had a good laugh at the "Ever-dieing PC platform" statment, thanks for that!

Second that. I predict PC sales increasing if anything. (I'm looking at steam sales, cheaper hardware, etc)

Vault101:

Its a tradition!

honestly though I think were all a little sick of that bullshit..I recently just got myself a new monster computer and after trying out far cry 3 on ultra saying "PC gaming is dying" feels about as vaild as "the wrolds gonna end!" people keep saying it...yet things just keep going

Today it's pretty nonsensical to say PC gaming is "dying", but at the height of this console generation a few years ago, it looked pretty damn bleak in terms of original/new releases.

Not "dying", but horribly lopsided and lacking in variety.
Basically, if it wasn't an MMO or some social/Facebook worm masquerading as a game, it was a port.

That's changed a fair bit since then; I can actually find a number of quality/good games on PC that don't look or play like console hand-me-downs.

Atmos Duality:

Today it's pretty nonsensical to say PC gaming is "dying", but at the height of this console generation a few years ago, it looked pretty damn bleak in terms of original/new releases.

Not "dying", but horribly lopsided and lacking in variety.
Basically, if it wasn't an MMO or some social/Facebook worm masquerading as a game, it was a port.

That's changed a fair bit since then; I can actually find a number of quality/good games on PC that don't look or play like console hand-me-downs.

I'll admit that going on exclusives alone it looks dead in the water

but I guessed if it was on PC then PC was still a valid platform, I can understand the probloems with bad ports...and thease days its pretty much multiplatform but theres still advantages (especially right now) in having a PC

I got a PC because I knew the next gen is around the corner, and the fact is I just geniunly dont like consoles that much

The longevity of the this generation's consoles may be a hindrance to the next generation if backwards compatibility is instituted. The consoles of today are dinosaurs compared to the latest PC and Mac hardware. If Sony and MS want the new consoles to have legs they will need to make them out of up to date tech. To run the old games these new consoles will either need a second set of hardware or some form of software crippling to reduce their power down to Xbox 360 and PS3 levels. Could be both expensive and fraught with pitfalls to try to both new and old at the same time.

Stop what you're doing and listen to this! EA thinks there won't be backwards compatibility! What a revelation wonder where they got that from.

Really, no-one expects it to be included. 1, it's a hardware investment, and 2, they can release compatible versions later and make money from it. I'd still like it, but I'm not optimistic.

to be honest i don't really care if new consoles are Backwards-Compatible. i don't plan on replaying old stuff, i do have back log of games i need to finish or play but i will be done with it by the time new gen is out.

wax:
The longevity of the this generation's consoles may be a hindrance to the next generation if backwards compatibility is instituted. The consoles of today are dinosaurs compared to the latest PC and Mac hardware. If Sony and MS want the new consoles to have legs they will need to make them out of up to date tech. To run the old games these new consoles will either need a second set of hardware or some form of software crippling to reduce their power down to Xbox 360 and PS3 levels. Could be both expensive and fraught with pitfalls to try to both new and old at the same time.

im not entirely sure about that, i mean one of those powerful PCs you talk about can still run games from 20 years ago easily as long as it had the OS for it

surg3n:

RicoADF:

surg3n:

But the current generation isn't backwards compatible - having to download a patch to play a game, having to download a special version, having to emulate is not backwards compatibility. I can't take an XBox game and play it on a 360, I can't take a PS2 or PS1 game and play it on a PS3... at least not without the game being adjusted to work on the new hardware. Nothing would be cooler than having real, 100% backwards compatibility, but it doesn't exist, not in the way that Sony and M$ claim.

*pulls out his first game he ever owned, V-Rally on PSX, puts it in PS3 and plays a race. Takes game out and puts back, then pulls out Killzone from PS2 and proceeds to play that for a few mins*...... I don't know what backwards comparability means to you, but PS3 was quite capable on the first generation of consoles.

Pulls out Oddworld for PS1 because he misses it, and his PC can't run it... not work.
Pulls out Killzone for PS2 because it's awesome... not work.
Sits and wonders why Sony hates him, why my PS3 has to be less functional than other peoples.
Pulls out an XBox game that isn't Halo2 and tries it on his 360... not work.
Sits and wonders why M$ hates him as well.

I know what backwards compatibility means to me, it means the ability to play previous generation games on current generation hardware. If that works for you, then awesome - hope you have a blast. It doesn't work on my PS3, simple as that - I'm not lying or exagerating.

I'm sorry to hear that, but I did say first generation of PlayStation. Frankly I think they should offer a version that has full comparability, some of us will pay.

Desert Punk:
I had a good laugh at the "Ever-dieing PC platform" statment, thanks for that!

Saw that too. Fucking hilarious. Wonder which side of this divide the author is on.

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And this was the day I decided I will definitely not be buying the next generation of consoles.

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