PlayStation UK Boss Upset With Fan Reaction to PS4 Event

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I hear the box is going to be black and maybe rectangle, roundish.
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I guess it is weird not seeing the box, but I didn't expect to see everything about PS4 at the event.

But I kind of like the design of the controller so I'm sure the box won't be that ugly.

The game selection is all I really care about (and backwards compatibility, but I suppose that fits under "game selection"). I get new consoles to play games. I have other hardware for everything else. I'm not much of an online social gamer, so most of the new features would be useless to me.

He is spot on, and anyone who bitched about not seeing the console is a certifiable moron. The Event was an announcement, it was there to say "There is a PS4, here is what makes it a PS4, Here is a demonstration of what it can do", It was not "Come gawk at the plastic bits". Just because people are saying "It was a REVEAL" doesn't mean the word is to be taken literally.

People are really quite predictably pathetic.

If they'd just shown what it looks like, people would bitch about a lack of substance.
If they'd shown us what it looks like but skipped on showing us other things, people would bitch about the missing things.
If they'd shown us everything, people would bitch that they didn't have anything to show at E3, or closer to launch.

Though I haven't much interest in the ps4 due to understandable compatibility reasons I would have liked to know the footprint of the console, hell a shoebox and them saying this will be about the size of the ps4 would do. These things do take up shelf space and I would like to know how much space that is. Also I would say insulting your potential consumers isn't the best way to get them onboard for a new console.

Captcha: vicious cycle
(hmm, how appropriate)

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do, do we really need another batch of consoles to replace the current ones?

Like the saying goes; If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Err the PS3 and Xbox 360 are painfully obsolete, yes they will be playable with new games for a few years, maybe, but that's it. Don't forget Sony will keep the PS3 being made like the PS2, they want to bring the PS4 out while the 3 has some life left in it to give enough of a transition period for their consumers to convert over before its abandoned. I'd also like to note, my smart phone has more ram then them. That's a disgrace for a current gaming system.

How it looks is still important. It doesn't matter what my car looks like in order to get me from A to B, but how it looks has an effect.

What if GM released a new car with some flashy tech specs, and dash cam vids, but no body?

I think the more important point shouldn't be whether or not the look of a console is the most important part of a game system, but whether the look of a game system is important when ANNOUNCING your new game system.

Otherwise, my mind immediately goes to a, "the cake is a lie!" way of thinking.

I assume that their plan was that by not showing the console, people would be talking about the specs/game reveals rather than filling up comments of 'omg the edges are too round.' But yeah, he surely cant have been to surprised when people got angry that their console reveal didnt reveal the console..

All that's important is what the damn thing does? Well then, they're really in trouble now because after watching that press conference I don't know shit about what the PS4 can do. Just "ideas" for games and tech demos.

immovablemover:
He is spot on, and anyone who bitched about not seeing the console is a certifiable moron. The Event was an announcement, it was there to say "There is a PS4, here is what makes it a PS4, Here is a demonstration of what it can do", It was not "Come gawk at the plastic bits". Just because people are saying "It was a REVEAL" doesn't mean the word is to be taken literally.

People are really quite predictably pathetic.

If they'd just shown what it looks like, people would bitch about a lack of substance.
If they'd shown us what it looks like but skipped on showing us other things, people would bitch about the missing things.
If they'd shown us everything, people would bitch that they didn't have anything to show at E3, or closer to launch.

For the most part (notwithstanding the certifiable moron part), I agree. If people want to be offended by what he said, that's their choice but I'm not insulted the slightest. On top of that, he hasn't asked for my money. There isn't a price tag on the PS4 yet and I'm sure I will see what the console looks like far before I actually choose to buy it. And yes, I'm more interested in what it does than what it looks like.

SkarKrow:

grigjd3:
So this guy thinks that by insulting his audience, he'll get more business?

The games industry seems to work that way. Most big publishers have in some way insulted the intelligence of the gaming community. Ubisoft persisted in calling PC gamers pirates for years, for example.

Not to mention all those developers complaining about how the used game market is cutting into their sales when in fact it adds value and promotes new sales. Sure Steam does well but they also have severely reduced prices. I think the worst though is DRM that only negatively impacts legitimate customers.

I kind of agree on the "not showing the box" side of things. I'm not really into the thing I won't be in contact with for most of the time save for setup and changing disks. They showed the controller, which was smart, as that's the thing you're touching most. And they showed a line up of games that will come with the release, which is great.

The only niggle I had with the event was that they called all of the features of the PS4, such as that social play over the internet stuff, "aspirational". Meaning, "we won't have this working on day 1, but just bear with us please". I guess I also didn't like how they didn't drill down further into the architecture. Calling stuff "supercharged" doesn't really satisfy those of a technical leaning. Give us a SKU number, clock speeds, etc. Not just an arbitrary bandwidth number that means nothing.

Yeah, this guy sounds like a giant a-hole. You can't unveil something and not show what it is. We all knew it was coming out in Fall of 2013. We got some confirmation on specs and some gameplay footage, but that hardly means anything at a press conference where everything is designed to look and sound way better than it's going to at home.

They didn't show the actual product. They didn't give the price. They showed a controller that seems like it might be a good idea but will likely exclude something or not work well just like their last launch controller. Sony could have waited for E3 and come out with everything, but they wanted to jump the gun. This was a failure because they didn't want to spoil everything but still get out ahead. Of course you're going to disappoint people. Don't start sucking because we called you on it.

They did show what it is. What they didn't show is what it looked like. And if people were actually more interested in what it looked like than what it actually did, then I'm not sure exactly how that is reasonable.

Let's be honest. Since Intelivison and Atari to Nintendo and sega the game is this.

The brave company makes a new console.
The careful company waits to see what the specs are then rushes to one up the console.

See Genesis/ Super Nintendo...

The pattern repeats over and over and doesn't change.

"It's much more important to see what the damn thing does."

Fergal Gara, you utter dickweed. You have the audacity to talk down to potential customers and then utter this very sentence when the fucking company that pays your meal tickets remains tight-lipped on this very issue? The one damn thing I care about at this point, i.e. the question of used games (which I'd say falls under the subset of 'what the damn thing does'), and Sony won't give us a fucking answer? Snotty prick.

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do, do we really need another batch of consoles to replace the current ones?

no, we really have reached the limit, optimization can do wonders but it only goes so far
the hard ware we have for consoles is constantly being pushed to its absolute limits by the newer games

kburns10:
I guess for me I was impressed with the specs and gameplay footage shown. Hell, the fact we even saw gameplay footage was unexpected. I know whatever the console looks like will be fine. If it plays games and plays them well, I'm fine with a wait to see it.

A person more cynical than myself would suggest that most of what "gameplay" was shown was simply scripted events, with the slight possibility of actually using an in-game engine.

OT: I'll probably be a few years behind on picking the PS4 up anyway, like I was with the PS2 and the PS3, so all of the hype in the world has no effect on me. Don't care that Sony didn't reveal what it looked like, because I didn't even care enough to watch most of the event. Tech demos and pre-rendered cut-scenes aren't enough to get me excited anymore.

I completely agree with him. When I read through an article detailing all the new features I was far more interested in what I was reading than what the thing looked like. Who cares? A box is a box. As long as it's not absolutely hideous and is manageable in size then I'm good.

Carlston:
Let's be honest. Since Intelivison and Atari to Nintendo and sega the game is this.

The brave company makes a new console.
The careful company waits to see what the specs are then rushes to one up the console.

See Genesis/ Super Nintendo...

The pattern repeats over and over and doesn't change.

I would argue with your point in saying that the Xbox came out initially and was followed by two consoles the next year, one being more powerful and the other being substantially less.

Wii won the first few rounds in sales, but fell quickly with a lack of 3rd party games and other issues.

The PS3 suffered right out of the gate with price point, lack of games, and some technical issues.

Xbox 360 started first and finished strong. They may not have announced yet, but that seems more like Sony's problem than Microsofts. Who announces before E3???

Of course it's "more important" to see what it can do. But revealing something generally means showing it. People had expectations. People want all the details so that they can make an informed decision. People want to know to know exactly what you expect them to buy is.

No, you the man captcha!

rofltehcat:
So I could theoretically get a purple PS4?

I'd actually consider getting one if I could get a purple one

But Sony, how do you expect me to get hyped for a console that, for all I know, could be shaped like a giant phallus?

It's important that we see the physical device. This thing could be occupying a spot on out TV shelves for the next five to eight years, so it's kind of important to see what it looks like!

MikeWehner:
For all intents and purposes, Sony's PlayStation 2013 event did a fine job of showing what PlayStation fans can look forward to later this year - at least in terms of new software.

Really? I hated everything about that show.

Knack
This game just looks terrible.

Destiny
Killzone: Shadow Fall

Because this console generation did nothing to satisfy my need to look down a space-rifles iron-sights!

The Witness

Wandering around a deserted island solving puzzles. Sorry Blow, but Myst did this 20 years ago.

DriveClub

Sorry, but the only Driving-Sims I want to play are ones that let me decorate my cars with Badass Decals.

Final Fantasy XV

Square is making a Final Fantasy game. NOT NEWS!

inFamous: Second Son

Well... I liked the other two...

Watch_Dogs
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Cyberpunk 2077

I'm actually looking forward to these, and can't wait to play them... ON MY PC!

Diablo III

I don't even want to play the PC version, so why would I waste my time with this

This is the gaming industry in a nutshell, really. "We do something stupid, then lash out at your for backlash."

Esoomspark:
But Sony, how do you expect me to get hyped for a console that, for all I know, could be shaped like a giant phallus?

Judging from Minecraft and custom flags in Call of Duty, that would be a selling point to most.

And did we see what it does? Do we know what the touch screen on the controller 'adds' to gameplay, do we know the specifics of video capture and sharing? No.

Rogue 09:

Carlston:
Let's be honest. Since Intelivison and Atari to Nintendo and sega the game is this.

The brave company makes a new console.
The careful company waits to see what the specs are then rushes to one up the console.

See Genesis/ Super Nintendo...

The pattern repeats over and over and doesn't change.

I would argue with your point in saying that the Xbox came out initially and was followed by two consoles the next year, one being more powerful and the other being substantially less.

Wii won the first few rounds in sales, but fell quickly with a lack of 3rd party games and other issues.

The PS3 suffered right out of the gate with price point, lack of games, and some technical issues.

Xbox 360 started first and finished strong. They may not have announced yet, but that seems more like Sony's problem than Microsofts. Who announces before E3???

I would say the WII was a brilliant move in the console wars. We don't need Bluray, we don't need hyper graphics to see a zit on Solid Snakes chin, we'll fall back on... games people enjoyed. And selling a cheaper system with the licensed games people grew up with. The Metroid games were fun, my daughter found tons of shovelware to be happy and enjoyed super mario just like I did as a kid.

Trying not to bash...the 360 started with red rings, and a 50 percent failure(seen sites from 50-80 so giving them benifit of the doubt) rate on hardware. Not a good start.

Owning all three systems, My WII never broke. My PS3 1st gen needed one laser replacement after a abusive 5 years of playing DVD's for the kid and my old ps2 games nonstop, my 360 was replaced 4 times in a year and a half with casual use.

As well I'm a keep something off if it's not being played kind of person, so I didn't just let the 360 on for weeks at a time.

I was less than happy with the 360 till they gave me the slim with a free kinetic my kid plays to death.

The practice of throwing out something broken and PR dancing around it seems to be Microsofts forte.

I'm hoping this next gen or cosoles being... Higher quality products and less rushed out the door, well doorstops (in a month)

"I understand that frustration but frankly, a box is a box. Is that really the most important thing?," Gara explained to Videogamer. "So what? It's much more important to see what the damn thing does. The shiniest piece of black, green or purple plastic ever, you know, whatever, so what? It's not the most important thing."

Well, after the Super Slim it's understandable that people want to see if the console is ugly or not.

So let's summarize: "Don't worry about the box! Appearances are meaningless! You should care more about how pretty it makes all of the games look!"

You're an idiot, Mr Gara.

No one cares about how pretty that old man's eyes are. They wanted to see an actual physical copy of the console to know that it actually exists and that it's not just a load of hype. And then after that, they want to see how it will actually provide a genuinely good gaming experience.

You wasted over an hour of everyone's time talking about social media, showing us tech demos, and talking about all the features you copied from your competitors. How did you THINK people would react to such a terrible performance? Rousing applause? You couldn't even buy a solid round of applause from your in-studio audience!

Of course the freaking box is important, that's what you want us to buy!

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do-

Here we go again. Just how far do you think these current consoles can go, and why do you think so?

Who gives a shit how it looks?

It's them showing off nothing that can't be done on current hardware, besides graphics, that was their great sin.

Does anyone have a link to a spec-sheet for this? I heard it has an x86 processor (but nothing specific) a 5770 GPU, 8GB shared GDDR5 between RAM and VRAM and a big hard-drive.

So it's a 1 year old PC compressed?

What Sony needs to grasp is that we just got shafted by Gearbox. Not three weeks before their conference, still fresh in our memories is how Gearbox's demos and interviews leading up to Colonial marines out and out LIED to us. So yes, we're going to be a bit cynical. We're going to ask to see your CONSOLE running these demos, not some PC in the back room. We're going to ask to see evidence that what we're seeing isn't prerendered video, and we're going to demand more than a guy on stage pantomiming to be certain what you're showing is actual game play.

The gaming consumer has had enough being lied to by publishers, developers and hardware producers. We want to see your console, and we want to see it doing what you say it can do.

DVS BSTrD:

MikeWehner:
"It's much more important to see what the damn thing does."

Or maybe that we see the damn thing actually doing it, and not just a bunch of select videos and your good word.

agreed! Let's face it until we see the ps4 plugged into a telly with actual games footage we don't know what it can do, those HD shiny pixel perfect trailers could hvae been powered by a computer the size of Texas for all we know!

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