PlayStation UK Boss Upset With Fan Reaction to PS4 Event

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DVS BSTrD:

MikeWehner:
"It's much more important to see what the damn thing does."

Or maybe that we see the damn thing actually doing it, and not just a bunch of select videos and your good word.

Agreed. I don't trust anyone in the industry anymore, not since about midway through this generation. There has been too much bs on the part of devs/publishers/etc, for me not to see everything they do now as a little bit sketchy. They have lost my trust, and they will have to work to get it back.

Whilst I personally didn't care if they showed the system or not, a box is not 'just a box'. People will decide to buy anything, from clothes, cars, washing machines, cutlery, all partially depending on what they look like. For the looks of an object, like it or lump it, can represent so much more i.e. image.

This guy could not have missed the point of fan outcry harder.
It's not about -seeing- the console, it's about not being able too trust that what we're seeing on the screen is actually coming from a console. Which, in most cases, it isn't. I've been a fan of Sony for a while but everything that this guy said just illustrates how ignorant their upper echelons are of gamers. We can't trust them anymore, they've lied so many times, and when they seem too balk at the idea of having too prove that what is on the screen is actually coming from a PS4 rather than a souped up computer with four Nvidia 690's jammed in it, it just makes us more suspicious.

I think it's an honor issue between both parties. It would be a sign of good faith to let us see it.

DVS BSTrD:

MikeWehner:
"It's much more important to see what the damn thing does."

Or maybe that we see the damn thing actually doing it, and not just a bunch of select videos and your good word.

OMG You actually want to see the console doing what we're telling you it can do! Bunch of entitled whiners! :P

Hammeroj:

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do-

Here we go again. Just how far do you think these current consoles can go, and why do you think so?

To be clear; I'm not suggesting that the PS3 and 360 can keep up for years and years, but I figure they've still got another year or so left before they're completely and utterly worthless (as far as the gaming industry is concerned, anways).

Eggsnham:

Hammeroj:

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do-

Here we go again. Just how far do you think these current consoles can go, and why do you think so?

To be clear; I'm not suggesting that the PS3 and 360 can keep up for years and years, but I figure they've still got another year or so left before they're completely and utterly worthless (as far as the gaming industry is concerned, anways).

Define what you mean when you say they've still got something left. Because I'm pretty sure they're gonna keep getting made, and getting games made for them for probably a couple of years from now.

On the hardware side, though, they're just absurdly out of date by now. Absurdly. There's no such thing as actually completely worthless, because they certainly can be milked for more money, but in terms of technological progress there hasn't been any sort of significant breakthrough for a while, and I doubt there will be. The progress that's being made with what something like three or four developers are doing with their optimization gimmicks is sluggishly approaching a point that wasn't incredible six years ago.

How are the consumers supposed to react to a produce showcase that has no product? Just fancy demos of things that nobody can touch, see, feel or inspect? I suspect they reacted like I did. WIth derision and suspicion leading to a wait until I see one before any decision is made.

The gaming community has a negative reaction to vaporware. Which, one might recall, is what Sony presented with the PS3. Games that never showed up and Featured Games (!!) that were years late. Features that were consistently removed every six months or so.

Remember linux via the Other OS? Yes, the same function that will never be removed from PS3. The box that does everything. Except what they promised or for how long they promised.

Signed by the PS3 Linux purchaser.

Eggsnham:
I'm personally more irritated that they're releasing next-gen consoles in the first place, we haven't even reached the pinnacle of what the current generation machines can do, do we really need another batch of consoles to replace the current ones?
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yeah....I think we do I mean its been 7 YEARS! thats a long bloody time

SkarKrow:

grigjd3:
So this guy thinks that by insulting his audience, he'll get more business?

The games industry seems to work that way. Most big publishers have in some way insulted the intelligence of the gaming community. Ubisoft persisted in calling PC gamers pirates for years, for example.

to be fair though its not like gamers always conduct themselves in a matter than deserves the label "intelligent life"

Because it would have been so terribly difficult to just put a plastic prototype case model on the stage. It's not like people were expecting to go home with a working system.

The system can do well but we want to see it do well. Actual gameplay, not pre-rendered stuff. He must have known about the whole Aliens: Colonial Marines debacle, right? People are on edge. They want to see proof of a system's capabilities, not false promises by an industry that has next to no oversight when it comes to customer satisfaction.

I am surprised and disappointed by you all. I expected better from this group. Every one of you has missed the only important thing going on here, and that is that this guy's name is Fergal Gara.

His name is freakin' FERGAL GARA. How does a human being come to own a name so boldly ridiculous!? I-I-I mean, it's just, just...Amazing! Fergal Gara! Listen to that name roll out of your mouth, go ahead, say it out loud. It is simply splendid! It's an experience I have never known before! I could try my entire life and never come up with a name as shockingly, deplorably, brilliantly, absurdly magnificent as FERGAL GARA. It is.......

Transcendent. That is the word. I am stunned, floored, my mind feels filibustered, I am overcome with a sensation of wonder and grotesquerie that I cannot describe. I am totally serious here, Fergal Gara is the most fantastic name I have ever heard. I imagine this is what a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster feels like...

Vault101:

SkarKrow:

grigjd3:
So this guy thinks that by insulting his audience, he'll get more business?

The games industry seems to work that way. Most big publishers have in some way insulted the intelligence of the gaming community. Ubisoft persisted in calling PC gamers pirates for years, for example.

to be fair though its not like gamers always conduct themselves in a matter than deserves the label "intelligent life"

I can sadly agree and attest to that, gamers often lose sight of the most important things like "gameplay" and "fun" and decide to focus in on the little things. Though to be fair it's often the extremely vocal and inter anonymous that kick up the most noise, empty vessels and such.

The poor guy's clearly not that bright. Not his fault to be fair.

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