Conan O'Brien Loses It Over Lara

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Conan O'Brien Loses It Over Lara

Chayotic events ensue when Conan meets Mr Pointy for the first, second and third time.

It's kind of endearing to see Conan recognize Lara Croft's body of work, as she tumbles from dizzy heights to the cold, hard ground once more. This time out Lara's adventure on Lawsuit Island does not end altogether as you'd hope - and certainly not as Conan "I'm so perving out" O'Brien probably hoped - but at least it ended decisively. Cue fisticuffs; Aaron Blair's paycheck had better be worth it, is my take on Lara-or-Laura's finale. That, or he needs lessons on when and how to duck.

If you care about that sort of thing, Conan gives Tomb Raider a wiggle-click-hands. Conan seems to have enjoyed this one, a lot more than some of his his previous outings, and he's even getting better at the gaming basics, jumping from ledge to ledge like a seasoned pro. He even manages to glide through the treetops with aplomb and, though Lara's top remained stubbornly in place, Conan's fondness for the character shows through right to the end.

"Lara - let's face it, her name is Laura," says Conan, "Is incredibly attractive, and this game makes you fall in love with her, and then lose her." To Mr Pointy, at least three times, as a matter of fact; but at least Conan seems to be getting into the spirit of things. Tomb Raider's out March 5th for the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3.

Source: Team Coco

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No, her name is Lara.

You crazy Americans and your naming conventions.

It's Craig! Pronounced 'Crayg', not 'Creg'

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

SHIT. That was the funniest Clueless Gamer yet XD.

I'm not quite sure what I just read.

Watching the video would probably clear that right up, but Youtube's regional restrictions just told me to go fuck myself with a dry pineapple.

lolololol Conan is hilarious

Does he make more of these? He should do one for all the games he plays

Zhukov:
I'm not quite sure what I just read.

Watching the video would probably clear that right up, but Youtube's regional restrictions just told me to go fuck myself with a dry pineapple.

try this: unblockyoutube.co.uk/

and kind of funny how you all can see music videos but no show content
and we cant see anything with music in it but american show content over here.

This might be the first time his stuff has made me laugh a little. Wait a minute, the new Tomb Raider is out already? I thought it was still a ways off. Since I haven't heard the internet as a whole go into Defcon 4 does this mean that it's an okay game?

I sure hope so because this is one of the games alongside Bioshock Infinite I was looking forward to.

Mr Pointy was a bit sharp, just because you're a game-over is no excuse for being a prick. I shouldn't need to point that out

Marik2:
lolololol Conan is hilarious

Does he make more of these? He should do one for all the games he plays

It's a series so you can probably find the others somewhere

Marik2:
Does he make more of these? He should do one for all the games he plays

He did more than a couple now. This one he kind of liked, but most of them he has the attitude "I don't get this, this is stupid" and every so often saying something that is actually fair.

VanQQisH:
This might be the first time his stuff has made me laugh a little. Wait a minute, the new Tomb Raider is out already? I thought it was still a ways off. Since I haven't heard the internet as a whole go into Defcon 4 does this mean that it's an okay game?

I sure hope so because this is one of the games alongside Bioshock Infinite I was looking forward to.

It's actual got a pre-release and review copies which is an interesting positive sign, Susan Arendt has written a review on it and loved the heck out of it, other people felt it changed the formula too much, I'm pretty sure it's not in shops till march though

Sex sells. What more to say?

That was actually really funny. He got really into it and not just because of the pervy factor I think. But, damn, those developers have some cruel ideas to kill her off with.

rhizhim:

Zhukov:
I'm not quite sure what I just read.

Watching the video would probably clear that right up, but Youtube's regional restrictions just told me to go fuck myself with a dry pineapple.

try this: unblockyoutube.co.uk/

and kind of funny how you all can see music videos but no show content
and we cant see anything with music in it but american show content over here.

thanks for that link. even in australia it was locked.
damn, this guys talks crap. coulndt finish this video. and why they have such problems with lara?? i dont get it.

Not her first piercing and sure as fuck wasn't her last O.O
Found a handbag and now she's distracted! LOL

Marik2:
lolololol Conan is hilarious

Does he make more of these? He should do one for all the games he plays

They've put these up on the escapist before. Capcom actually had his play through of RE6 taken down, even though he was probably the only reviewer who enjoyed that game.

VanQQisH:
This might be the first time his stuff has made me laugh a little. Wait a minute, the new Tomb Raider is out already? I thought it was still a ways off. Since I haven't heard the internet as a whole go into Defcon 4 does this mean that it's an okay game?

I sure hope so because this is one of the games alongside Bioshock Infinite I was looking forward to.

Susan did the honest review yesterday, it's still listed under "Features".

Daystar Clarion:
No, her name is Lara.

You crazy Americans and your naming conventions.

It's Craig! Pronounced 'Crayg', not 'Creg'

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

FINE! She's your contrywoman, so we'll pronounce her name "properly". Clar-ion. :P

Metalrocks:

rhizhim:

Zhukov:
I'm not quite sure what I just read.

Watching the video would probably clear that right up, but Youtube's regional restrictions just told me to go fuck myself with a dry pineapple.

try this: unblockyoutube.co.uk/

and kind of funny how you all can see music videos but no show content
and we cant see anything with music in it but american show content over here.

thanks for that link. even in australia it was locked.
damn, this guys talks crap. coulndt finish this video. and why they have such problems with lara?? i dont get it.

Did you miss the part where he's a comedian, you're not supposed to take him seriously and Laura kept dying in the rapids?

anian:

Marik2:
Does he make more of these? He should do one for all the games he plays

He did more than a couple now. This one he kind of liked, but most of them he has the attitude "I don't get this, this is stupid" and every so often saying something that is actually fair.

I think he liked Hitman: Absolution as well but it was mainly because of the nuns in latex. As the series has gone on, Conan seems to be liking games more and more, or at least he's finding the right games to play.

Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

EDIT: Good journalistic professionalism on MY part :/ Apologies to AARON Blair.

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

lumenadducere:

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

Mr. let's have it look like Lara is about to get raped had a more violent but less rapey brother on the dev team?

oh my, that Chazzim was pure Chae-ous.

On a design note, that tree-branch through the neck was gruesomely unnecessary.

Okay, the first few he did I found really distasteful and annoying ... But now he's getting actually ... funny, you know?

Zhukov:
I'm not quite sure what I just read.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone. I honestly thought the article would have given us some actual information, and if you need the video to understand it, then why bother writing anything and let the video say it all for you.

I'm not trying to get on at anybody, but this has been the biggest let down since I joined the escapist...

That was probably the best advertisement Square-enix got for Tomb Raider. Although somehow I already hear people will complain about how for some reason Lara dying is going to be offensive and should be removed. I'm sorry but I remember that people wanted their games and women to be as realistic as possible and ya know what? People die in very gruesome ways and you don't get to complain when a developer gives you a realistic character and makes said character die the same way as you see extras die in movies where you don't even bat an eye or how you kill enemies in video games for the past decade. Looks like Crystal Dynamics actually got it right by getting players to care but I will say it certainly helps them out cause they got to use a very endearing character that people not only recognize but respect as a character.

My only problem is that I don't really see how they can continue the franchise and the adventures of Lara Croft.

EDIT: Honestly if I wanted I could say that her death in that area was done very lazily. Cause think of it like this, they get past the first part and when they hand off the controller to Conan again she dies the exact same way using the very same cutscene. Think about that for a second, they made lara die the same way by the same branch. Kinda lazy if you really want to argue about how else people have died being swept away in a river.

But the key point I think people should realize when they get irate about "unneeded violence" is that this is a work of fiction and not reality. We have also seen games do much more terrible things and people didn't bat an eye at the Dead Space franchise when Issac would be killed or the MANY people around him. Also there are MANY other forms of media from books to movies that are much, much more grotesque than what you will ever see in video games and people don't even flinch.

The only thing that if you are disturbed is your own personal morality and you trying to push your morality unto others all on the foundation that you were personally foundation. It is a work of fiction and there is no reason to get offended. If you want to get offended go out and actually help the actual people in your community that actually need help because people who are homeless or starving or not able to get a job are hurting a million times more than whatever you will see with Lara and her new game.

'The uploader has not made this video available in your country'

Arragghh!

What's your problem with Ireland youtube!!!!????

grey_space:
'The uploader has not made this video available in your country'

Arragghh!

What's your problem with Ireland youtube!!!!????

Dude they segregated all of youtube by region. Probably as an answer to prevent slow access to servers which is kinda ingenious but also demonstrates how weak the internet's infrastructure the moment you step out of the US.

Some of the deaths in this game seem a bit I dunno like torture porn.

lumenadducere:

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

Exactly! The aesthetic of those environments makes me feel that the graphic violence is justified, if not necessarily "easy" to watch. In this instance though, it just seems - like you said - unnecessary and out of tone with the rest of the game.

I know from the promotional material that the development team wanted to make the world of Tomb Raider more realistic with an emphasis on danger, but this looks downright exploitative. I mean they have her struggle for a few seconds after she gets impaled! Too harsh of a "punishment" for an inexperienced college student.

ThingWhatSqueaks:

lumenadducere:

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

Mr. let's have it look like Lara is about to get raped had a more violent but less rapey brother on the dev team?

You know what? I hadn't thought of that before, but it makes a certain amount of sense.

Chris Batson:

lumenadducere:

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

Exactly! The aesthetic of those environments makes me feel that the graphic violence is justified, if not necessarily "easy" to watch. In this instance though, it just seems - like you said - unnecessary and out of tone with the rest of the game.

I know from the promotional material that the development team wanted to make the world of Tomb Raider more realistic with an emphasis on danger, but this looks downright exploitative. I mean they have her struggle for a few seconds after she gets impaled! Too harsh of a "punishment" for an inexperienced college student.

Well, one could make the argument that the phenomenally brutal deaths in the Dead Space series is too harsh of a punishment for an engineer, but I don't remember there being much of a backlash to those.

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

It's certainly disturbing but I think that is to its advantige. The gore is happening to your character rather than being given out by you like in say god of war, so its a punishment rather then a reward. I remember in Resident Evil 4 the only thing that kept the tension was knowing that if I lost I would have to watch a really gorey death. Its a more effective punishment then all most any thing else and puts the fear of death in me I don't get form other games. I don't like that kind of violence but that is exactly the point, thats at least how I see it.

Damn, that was pretty funny! I've seen a few of these, but I think this was the best. I wonder why I had no issues watching the video, being Europe and all that.

"look at this, she found a handbag and now she's distracted" I laughed a little too much at that.

Looks like Lara isn't ridding herself of the view that she's nothing but a shallow sex symbol any time soon. Not in Conan's eyes at any rate.

You Americans sound really awkward when you say Lara. Conan's pronunciation of La-Ra seems to be the problem, he should try Lar-Rar.

Daystar Clarion:
No, her name is Lara.

You crazy Americans and your naming conventions.

It's Craig! Pronounced 'Crayg', not 'Creg'

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

Ironically, she was named Lara instead of Laura because Americans had trouble (or the original designers figured Americans had trouble) pronouncing Laura as Laura, and not Lara.

And yeah, the Craig/Creg thing drives me fucking insane. For the longest time watching South Park I figured it was a different name that hadn't picked up over here.

Chris Batson:

lumenadducere:

Chris Batson:
Conan, Andrew, and the audience basically had the same reaction as me when I saw that "spike through the head" death a couple of weeks ago. Almost TOO brutal for my tastes.

Yeah, I usually don't care at all about game violence, but that seemed unnecessary. Like, things in ultra-violent games like MadWorld, Manhunt, Postal, etc. aren't an issue for me, yet that made me uncomfortable. I really have to wonder who thought that was a good idea and why the rest of the dev team listened to them.

Exactly! The aesthetic of those environments makes me feel that the graphic violence is justified, if not necessarily "easy" to watch. In this instance though, it just seems - like you said - unnecessary and out of tone with the rest of the game.

I know from the promotional material that the development team wanted to make the world of Tomb Raider more realistic with an emphasis on danger, but this looks downright exploitative. I mean they have her struggle for a few seconds after she gets impaled! Too harsh of a "punishment" for an inexperienced college student.

As opposed to saying Isaac's many, many, many, brutal and horrible deaths are too harsh of a 'punishment' for an Engineer?

I don't understand. This sort of brutal quote-unquote "unnecessary" approach to dying in games has been done for ages anyway. So why start complaining about it now? Is it because that was 'out-of-place'? I didn't think it was.

Tenmar:
Although somehow I already hear people will complain about how for some reason Lara dying is going to be offensive and should be removed. I'm sorry but I remember that people wanted their games and women to be as realistic as possible and ya know what? People die in very gruesome ways and you don't get to complain when a developer gives you a realistic character and makes said character die the same way as you see extras die in movies where you don't even bat an eye or how you kill enemies in video games for the past decade.

Only if they wouldn't be disturbed if she was a man.
I personally don't care for the violent death-animations, it just doesn't interest me, and often they just look silly.
Unless they're very stylisized and over-the-top, and there's a lot of variety.
But in a game like this? I don't much care for them. At their worst they might look silly.

JeanLuc761:

Well, one could make the argument that the phenomenally brutal deaths in the Dead Space series is too harsh of a punishment for an engineer, but I don't remember there being much of a backlash to those.

Undoubtedly that Isaac is a man is a part of it, but there's also the fact that Tomb Raider is an established franchise, so people already know Lara. While Dead Space established from the start that it was a game with a lot of gore, and people who bought it were prepared for it.

As for violence against women in video-games, violence against female characters is fine.

UNLESS it's exploitative and sexualised. That was the main complaint against the Hitman nuns,
and the fears for the Tomb Raider-thing (especially after the comments about 'protecting ' Lara). I haven't played the latter yet, but it seems those fears were unfounded.

I'm sure some people feel uncomfortable because they aren't as used to seeing violence like this towards women, but maybe this is a good opportunity to reflect on why you aren't as disturbed seeing such things happen to men, and how used you are to violence in media.

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