Just Cause Dev Claims PS4 Will Out-Power Most PCs For Years

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Just Cause Dev Claims PS4 Will Out-Power Most PCs For Years

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Linus Blomberg says the PS4, with its social ecosystem and integrated business marketplace, is a perfect fit for the kind of games Avalanche Studios makes.

"I'm glad Sony decided to go with 8 GB RAM because it means that the PS4 will out-power most PCs for years to come," Linus Blomberg, CTO and co-founder of Avalanche studios told Gaming Bolt. Avalanche Studios is the developer behind the Just Cause franchise, and Blomberg says that the PS4 is "a perfect fit for the types of games we do, and we are confident that we'll bring open-world gaming to a whole new level because of it."

Blomberg says that the new console generation can't come soon enough, considering the PC's dominance in power, as well as competition from mobile platforms. "The consoles desperately need a boost since having been overtaken in terms of performance by PCs several years ago, and also losing market share to mobile platforms." As well as its increased power, Blomberg is also interested in the PS4's "good social ecosystem and connectivity, and integrated business marketplace."

"The off-the-shelf philosophy behind the architecture makes sense from a pricing and heating point of view, but it also means that Sony more easily can make incremental improvements of their system," adds Blomberg, hinting at the possibility of an "upgradable" PS4. "If that's actually their plan I don't know, but it could help preventing the inevitable loss of market shares that the long console cycles entails."

I'm not sure what PCs Blomberg is referring to in his claim. The free-to-use PCs in the public library? Your work computer? That old Pentium 4 grandma uses to Skype with? He surely can't mean gaming PCs, considering PC gamer recently threw together a PC for around $600 that could (theoretically) match the PS4, and the very machine I am using to type right now has had 16 GB of RAM for over a year...

Blomberg also confirmed that work on Aionguard, an open-world fantasy game, was still underway.

Source: Gaming Bolt

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Wait, isn't half the point of consoles that you don't have to upgrade them? So the devs have a stable, reliable, unchanging platform on which to develop? Making an upgradable console seems disingenous, may as well get a PC at that point.

As for this:

" As well as its increased power, Blomberg is also interested in the PS4's "good social ecosystem and connectivity, and integrated business marketplace."

Good luck with that, PS4 buyers.

I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

I'm not sure what PCs Blomberg is referring to in his claim. The free-to-use PCs in the public library? Your work computer? That old Pentium 4 grandma uses to Skype with? He surely can't mean gaming PCs, considering PC gamer recently threw together a PC for around $600 that could (theoretically) match the PS4, and the very machine I am using to type right now has had 16 GB of RAM for over a year...

My bet is that he is referring to the bottom 10% that do run PCs along those lines. It's not just the consoles that hold back developers from unleashing the raw power in most of our machines, it's also that the developers want for that bottom 10% to remain a possible sales figure.

This is something that consoles don't actually have to worry about considering their standardized hardware. There is a point in time where we have to leave that bottom 10% behind however.

Console can no longer compete so now they are playing catch-up by trying to mirror the PC.

Waaghpowa:
I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

I'm sure he does, but that seems an odd quote to throw out. Even the PS3 outpowers the "average" computer.

With 'most PCs', is he including non-gaming laptops and netbooks? Because my current mid-range computer is already way ahead of the PS4 in terms of power.

I won't even pretend to know computers, but I'm fairly sure even a cheap lump from PC world has at least 8GB. So does that make the PS4 an overly priced PC world knock off?

Most PC's? Of course.
Most gaming PC's? Well, a lot of those are already more powerful than the PS4.

Waaghpowa:
I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

Even then, it's kind of a "what?" moment.

marurder:
Console can no longer compete so now they are playing catch-up by trying to mirror the PC.

That's why consoles are only 6% of the market. Oh, wait....

it will make any learning pcs piss themselves in fear..
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Waaghpowa:
I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

no it think he means that you will actually have to use more power to get that damn thing running i.e. you wont be able to afford your future electricity bills.

Power has never been the consoles' strong point- PCs take that top. Consoles are about the stability of hardware that the game developers can grow accustomed with and concentrate on gameplay, rather than graphics. PCs will forever have better visuals, and consoles greater diversity in games. I don't see that changing for as long as we use the terms Gaming Console and Personal Computer.

By now people who state that their development platform of course will overpower PCs don't even have to bother coming up with actual words for that. Just saying something to the extent of

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is entirely sufficient for everyone to know exactly what they are talking about.

Mithcha:
I won't even pretend to know computers, but I'm fairly sure even a cheap lump from PC world has at least 8GB. So does that make the PS4 an overly priced PC world knock off?

But...It has social media. I challenge a PC to tackle that!

I'm pretty sure he is talking about the fact that the new console will raise the bar on the minimum level of performance people can expect for their gaming. Technically, the PS4 is going to have some interesting performance advantages since it's got entry level gaming rig performance while also performing on a 720p television screen. Most PC gamers I know wondering around the university campus play on laptops that wouldn't be able to match the PS4s grunt, and I'm one of the few people who actually invests in a mid level gaming rig (which I'm going to be upgrading to 16gb of RAM and a shiny new radeon 7970 once the summer rolls around).

I'm very interested in seeing if the new consoles can bring more games that have interesting mechanics like Gravity Rush (The one system selling game the Vita probably has at the moment unless someone is a die hard persona fan) and Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance. The additional inputs on the PS4 controller could make for some handy short cutting in the User Interface and allow some simulated mouse action.

Zachary Amaranth:

Mithcha:
I won't even pretend to know computers, but I'm fairly sure even a cheap lump from PC world has at least 8GB. So does that make the PS4 an overly priced PC world knock off?

But...It has social media. I challenge a PC to tackle that!

I don't think my two and a half thousand dollar computer can match that! Oh, woe is me that I have to press two buttons to upload a video or screenshot to Facebook when I could be pressing just half that amount!

Social ecosystem? Integrated business marketplace? 8GB being considered enough to outweigh PCs for years? Another incredulous statement to flesh this paragraph out?

Always puzzles me when devs come out with preferences of various consoles. Unless they plan to make console exclusive games, their preferences are entirely moot.

And I really hope consoles dont go down the route of encouraging the consumer to upgrade the hardware. Part of the reason I prefer consoles for gaming these days is simply knowing that I can buy a game and it will work without issues out the box (though even then some games try their best to dispel that dream admittedly).

Never mind that the "PS4" at the conference was actually a PC running PS4 specs.

Colt47:
I'm pretty sure he is talking about the fact that the new console will raise the bar on the minimum level of performance people can expect for their gaming.

Let's hope that's what he means. Otherwise it's just ignorance.

Zachary Amaranth:

Mithcha:
I won't even pretend to know computers, but I'm fairly sure even a cheap lump from PC world has at least 8GB. So does that make the PS4 an overly priced PC world knock off?

But...It has social media. I challenge a PC to tackle that!

I laughed, good show sir.

It'll have more RAM than the PC I use at work to do spreadsheets... Congrats

Zombie_Moogle:
It'll have more RAM than the PC I use at work to do spreadsheets... Congrats

It's about time: I don't think it's possible to buy a standard work laptop that has less then 4gb of RAM. Heck, I don't think it's possible to buy a decent work laptop that has a processor weaker than an 2nd gen i3. (And before someone points out the pentiums still being tossed around, I said DECENT dang it.)

Developer: "the PS4 will out-power most PCs for years to come"
Developer's bank account: LEVEL UP
Developer's reputation: DEAD IS DEAD

Took me only two comments before I saw someone calling 8 GB of RAM underpowered. As is to be expected I guess.

I was kinda concerned that my own computer could only manage 4 GB, due to how often PC gamers seem to scoff at such a "small" ammount... And yet I've had no problems with it at all. The only game I can think of that would actually require me to have more RAM is Rome Total War 2, which I'm undecided on.

Remember there's a lot of cruft required in making a game run on a PC that brings down it's specs a lot from what they should be on paper. Only last year John Carmack was airing his frustrations that a PC is 10x more powerful than a console, yet the drivers and API's are making it hard to leverage that power appropriately. When you combine that with the fact he's probably talking about the average computer, because you can't make an expensive game on the basis that only people with 16gb PCs can run it, it probably makes sense.

Andy of Comix Inc:

Waaghpowa:
I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

I'm sure he does, but that seems an odd quote to throw out. Even the PS3 outpowers the "average" computer.

I think this console generation has lasted so long that that the gap is closing a lot. I've got a fairly cheap laptop and I can run games which are only a couple of years old or stuff like the Old Republic which has been designed for fairly basic PCs.

Fasckira:

And I really hope consoles dont go down the route of encouraging the consumer to upgrade the hardware. Part of the reason I prefer consoles for gaming these days is simply knowing that I can buy a game and it will work without issues out the box (though even then some games try their best to dispel that dream admittedly).

I'm a pc only gamer. The last time I was completely unable to play a game was. . . at least years ago. I don't even remember. It was 5 to 10 years back.

Akratus:

Fasckira:

And I really hope consoles dont go down the route of encouraging the consumer to upgrade the hardware. Part of the reason I prefer consoles for gaming these days is simply knowing that I can buy a game and it will work without issues out the box (though even then some games try their best to dispel that dream admittedly).

I'm a pc only gamer. The last time I was completely unable to game was. . . at least years ago. I don't even remember. It was 5 to 10 years back.

Not denying in the slightest its possible. I still play games on my PC though I find having to configure graphic settings a bit tiresome. Boils down to laziness on my part, really.

Calcium:
I was kinda concerned that my own computer could only manage 4 GB, due to how often PC gamers seem to scoff at such a "small" ammount... And yet I've had no problems with it at all.

Indeed. Hardly anything (currently) uses 4Gb on its own. Most games are still 32bit and are therefore limited to 2Gb anyway, and they rarely even use that much. The gamers that scoff at 4Gb are the sort of morons who spend their time bragging about the number of terabytes of music they have downloaded (seemingly oblivious of the fact that they could spend the rest of their lives listening to a terabyte of songs and still never hear them all).

Sure it may be more powerful than some average PC's out there, but the average gaming PC? Yeah, no.
Seriously, how does he expect this claim to fly when most gaming PC's are upgraded at least once every 2 years, if not sooner than that.

To be fair, there is a big difference between GDDR5 and DDR3 (you probably have the latter).

Nevertheless, games will probs use 4 gigs for the next few years, and then 8 beginning 5-7 years from now (but again, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be GDDR5). Therefore, the PS3 will likely remain relevant in terms of personal computers for a while.

The real concern is that Sony (again) opted to share RAM between the CPU and the GPU. We'll see if this effects performance.

I'd be a lot more inclined to get the PS4 if it had the massive catalogue of games I can play on the PC... as it stands, however, I'm planning on upgrading my PC. If they have an exclusive that I MUST HAVE, I'll get the PS4 instead, but right now nothing in particular catches my interest - I can wait till there's a game I want to play.

But no doubt will I get this in time.

Didn't we hear that claim already for the last playstation and/or Xbox?
Could swear we had it before.

Colt47:

Zombie_Moogle:
It'll have more RAM than the PC I use at work to do spreadsheets... Congrats

(And before someone points out the pentiums still being tossed around, I said DECENT dang it.)

That put a smile on my face. Thank you :)

If it runs a game, it runs a game, but don't brag about a non-accomplishment

It's cute of the unwashed console masses to aspire to one day be as great as the glorious PC gaming master race. Really, we serve as an inspiration to them. It keeps them working hard, and I feel like that's doing the world a service in and of itself.

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Meh, he is very uninformed I think. I think he is taking the perspective that all or even a big share of PC users are gamers, which is completely false. I think the majority of PC gamers already run PC (myself for instance) that are more powerful than the PS4. RAM is cheap and plentiful. I also think it's stupid to say that based on a single hardware feature.

Yeah... my three year old PC has more power than the PS4. I did do some minor upgrades on it, but still.

I will admit however that the PS4 will be more powerful than my smartphone. And I do play games on that, so yeah, it will be more powerful than one of the machines I play games on.
So congrats PS4, you just proved that you're more powerful than an Iphone 4.
Take any victory, no matter how small and idiotic.

Well that wasn't very PC of him was it?

The PS4 will outpower more than 50% of PCs, regardless of specs. A PC with similar specs to the PS4 will be easily outpowered by it. Yes, a mid-high end gaming PC will be able to run games much better, with more graphical flourishes, but out of the huge numbers of PC's in the world, I reckon these gaming PC's will be a fairly low percentage of them. Therefore the PS4 WILL outpower most PC's.

All that being said, this is still a stupid statement to make. As game devs, they should only be concerned with gamers, not all the other millions of PCs, which are all completely irrelevant.

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