Battlefield 4 Goes Hollywood in its Official Gameplay Debut

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Soviet Heavy:
Does anyone remember when Battlefield was a fun variation on the World War 2 shooter genre? I kinda miss those days, riding on bomber wings and engaging in huge tank battles.

We've got enough modern shooters that I can't believe I'm getting nostalgic for World War 2 again. But fancier visuals showing the same thing we've seen a hundred times in the last five years, plus three times the setpieces and spectacle moments does little to encourage or excite me anymore.

Whilst I don't remember that I do remember this wondorous game called Bad Company 2 that was like a light hearted parody of the genre that mostly revolved around a core gameplay mechanics of "blow shit up"...
I would enjoy a WW2 shooter in Bad Company 2's engine immeasurably.

I'd say I hope this goes back to that, but it's not very likely at all, instead we'll get them trying to pull of a COD campaign with gritty realism as a kind of selling point.

Just like warfighter.

I honestly can't find the difference to BF3 in this, but I guess that is the sort of thing their player base expects.

Desert Punk:

Well come on, the big factions in Europe, the brits would be crying and scared of their own guns, the french would surrender to the first asian looking folk they came across, and the germans would start trying to take over the world again! It would be a disaster! :P

...You reminded me of Upotte! somewhat...I think it was the British being afraid of their guns; but in all fairness they did move to the L85A2 which is...a bit more reliable.

OT: Well, it looks pretty....I'd definitely buy it if it had dinosaurs or a dinosaur mode. I think most people would. But if I want a Michael Bay game I'd tape pistols to mice and set off firecrackers around them under piles of sawdust while blaring Linkin Park.

As much as I want them to go back to WW2 or Vietnam, I think the problem (and this is a big one with the FPS genre) is how will they apply unlocks/monetize WW2?

I mean, there was decidedly less guns, little to no real gun modifications (red dot sights, under barrel launchers etc) and little in the way of gadgets.

While I personally would prefer a game without all that rubbish, the publishers are going to keep milking the unlock cash cow.

My god that would be glorious though. WW2 on that engine, minus the horrid lens flare and colour shading...

One can dream.

and here I was hoping it was going to be a 2142 sequel (with the "futuristic chinese skyline" they teased a couple days ago) but no, more of the same.

Looks cool. Kinda wished they showed multiplayer instead but whatever. I hope they actually make the main character talk at all in game besides like 2 cutscenes, I dislike when these games make characters and give them some personality, but whenever action and stuff starts they become entirely mute. Also I wonder if women will be in the multiplayer.
I'm gonna wait on this one, after getting 3 on consoles, I feel I should wait and get a better computer for this one.

Roelof Wesselius:
I wonder how heavily butchered this game will have to be to run on 6 year old hardware.

Rumor is it won't be running on six year old hardware at all...

This should have been Bad Company 3.

Looks more like Battlefield 3 Expansion: Battlefield 3.5.

Also looks like they haven't learned much from the criticisms to their last game (or their previous games featuring big campaigns with Bots in SinglePlayer) and have for the most part just made another scripted, corridor-based (if you look at the Minimap, most places it seems like you can only move a few feet to the left or right) SinglePlayer Shooter with QTEs and B-movie story instead of a "Battlefield Experience".

I'm hoping EA fails to capitalize on the franchise as another "Call of Duty" production mill and there's only a fraction of the people buying it. Personally I'm pretty much done with the series for now after Battlefield 3 (and even more done with EA after everything they've done lately).

In the past DICE at least managed to vary the series quite a lot in style, gameplay and setting by jumping epochs e.g. 1942, Vietnam, Battlefield 2 (a.k.a. "Modern Combat"), 2142 and then Bad Company 2. It seems they won't even be doing that anymore and EA will just try to simulate Activisions model, just with presumably even more DLC and Microtransactions.

Well, that was thoroughly underwhelming.

i) Lot's of scripted events in that, until they show off some unscripted destruction it doesn't count. CoD4 put us in a sinking ship, the sequence in the factory reminded me a lot of that.

ii) The Helicopter pilot was called Hawkins, does that mean they've brought back Colby Hawkins from 3 specifically to kill her off in the first level? Or is every female pilot in the US military related?

iii) If Dice's spiel about open ended means a return to Bad Company's massive open maps with an objective marker then that's interesting. If it's going to be a case of left corridor, right corridor then not so much.

iv) Where's Black?

v) Single bullet reloads, that annoys my inner old git.

vi) Post processing effects seem to have been turned down a touch, which is nice and consistent with the Aftermath/Endgame maps not being quite so lens flare-tastic.

vii) Why are EA so desperate to Call of Duty it up? They've failed three years on the bounce to make a CoD clone campaign (MoH, BF3, MoH:WF) and yet they seem to be persisting. Why is anyone going to buy it when they already bought Call of Duty?

viii) If Black's not there, where's Pres, Hags, Sweet and Sarge? I'd rather play that than this.

ix) What's up with the gore porn? Even with all it's stabbings BF3 is pretty bloodless, this a marked shift in content (if not tone). Does it mean there's going to be gibs? That would be a new one, not sure if it's ridiculous or disturbing yet, maybe both.

x) Pretty foreign sidekick, she's going to catch a bullet in a 'shocking' moment, I'm calling it now!

Dexter111:
Battlefield 2 (a.k.a. "Modern Combat")

BF2: Modern Combat is an actual game, probably the best console Battlefield so far, even if hardly anyone bought it! It used some interesting mechanics that no other shooter since has played with, being able to swap between any friendly soldier on the map at will in campaign. Once you got the hang of it it really worked, why EA/Dice abandoned the concept so readily is beyond me.

ksn0va:
We just want Bad Company 3 :(

So long as it isn't like BC2 I'm game for that. Bad company 1 was "You are cannon fodder. Survive and steal money." and your superiors just ran around trying to get you killed. BC2 was "You are elite soldiers because LOL"

BBboy20:
This should have been Bad Company 3.

Hell if this was bad company 3. I assure you, I would care about these dudes losing their legs. Mind you, they would also never leave the combat zone (edit, via helicopter).

Well, I liked this reveal well enough, though I still liked the reveal mission in BF3 as well and most of the missions after that were crap tastic.

That said it definitely LOOKED more open in that section on the way to the factory, which would make me happy.

As far as models are concerned I wouldn't be surprised if most of those were placeholders. I am curious if they are going to really call back to the single player of BF3 and god I hope not. The worst part of BF3 campaign (other than the horrendous teases, amazing opening to a jet mission for on rails, ugh) was the contrived reasons for setting up these RU v US fight. What I liked about BC1 and BC2 is that it didn't even come, up and they focused on the characters.

Mr.K.:
I honestly can't find the difference to BF3 in this, but I guess that is the sort of thing their player base expects.

Not really, all the BF3 players I've talked to (especially in Teamspeak) have a big list of things they'd like to see changed, usually starting with the death of the rubbish campaign.

I think this is another case of EA's 'fund what works for other people, but paint it red' approach. If it is that, it's going to be like BF3's campaign, dull as dishwater.

As frustrated as many of you are with the content of the video, imagine my dismay when I spent 2+ hours on a big embargo'd event only to have the video be released online before I could even make it back to my hotel room to write it up.

I was pretty mother[redacted] [redacted] and wanted to [redacted] the [redacted]ing event planners right in their [redacted]ing faces.

:D

Generic beyond belief, stop holding the players hand. Stick a marker on a large map and tell them to go that way by any means. Then be amazed how a player will adapt to get there the fastest the first time then on the second play through explore everything.

Note to publishers we have a brain like you too and most of the time it is engaged. This corridor based fireworkathon is dull and has been done hundreds of times. How about something other than 2000-2020?

Saulkar:

14 minutes in-Initiating Rant: Quote-Fucking Civilians-End Quote: Why do soldiers in seemingly all (its a fucking hyperbole you dunce) U.S. media react negatively towards civilians (the ones they are supposed to protect and fight for), even the ones not of their native nationality? Personally it gives me the feeling that the soldiers are implying that unless you are a soldier you inferior to them.

after going through the training, this has what I have come up with.

I hate civilians. undisciplined, obnoxious, wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire.

I like Soldiers, we went through the same stuff.

I. Love. My. Scouts.

during "Family day", which was really just a three day pass to mark the transition from IET to the AIT portion, the number one thing that got on my nerves were the civilians.

Not all of them, but the ones who only see the uniform and the first thing that pops into their mind is we have money since we dont have much to spend on, especially if you are single. Even then military personnel are severely underpaid for what they do.

Teachers even get paid more than soldiers, which is saying something.

I dont expect people to understand the sentiment, but go through training, go to your unit, be in the atmosphere, and you quickly start to hang out primarily with other soldiers.

OT: great, we are fighting Russians again. while the visuals were pretty nice, and the dual sights are being brought over from MoH: Warfighter, I cant help but think we are going to see more of the same from BF 3.

Not a bad thing entirely though, I just hope we get better maps that offer a little bit of everything so people will quit playing the same five maps.

Metro is really getting on my nerves.

Also, Frostbite allows for destructible environments, USE IT DICE. Bad Company 2 was great because you could level the entire level by the games end with the exception of one or two buildings. I think there are only two building models in BF3 that are entirely destructible.

Saulkar:
OK, my thoughts as I watch the trailer.

First 5 minutes: Overly desaturated colours, obnoxious colour-grading, overtly scripted segments, linear set pieces, always fucking Russians!

Next 5 minutes: I have not really seen anything really that interesting.

14 minutes in-Initiating Rant: Quote-Fucking Civilians-End Quote: Why do soldiers in seemingly all (its a fucking hyperbole you dunce) U.S. media react negatively towards civilians (the ones they are supposed to protect and fight for), even the ones not of their native nationality? Personally it gives me the feeling that the soldiers are implying that unless you are a soldier you inferior to them.

It really may not be the intention but I have seen it in several games, novels, and movies and that is the only thing that I can infer from such reactions and statements. Instead why didn't he say something witty like "Why do Civillians always run the wrong direction when they hear gunfire and explosions?'

End Rant

After Watching The Rest: Total meh.

It's the same as how snowboarders always say "fucking skiers" and skiers always say "fucking snowboarders" when they get in each other's way on the hill. I bet civilians say "fucking soldiers". You're looking way too deep and getting frustrated over nothing.

MikeWehner:
As frustrated as many of you are with the content of the video, imagine my dismay when I spent 2+ hours on a big embargo'd event only to have the video be released online before I could even make it back to my hotel room to write it up.

I was pretty mother[redacted] [redacted] and wanted to [redacted] the [redacted]ing event planners right in their [redacted]ing faces.

:D

Well that sucks.

But hey! You are at Pax East with (I assume) a press pass, that has to be pretty fun.

I think I'll give this one a miss. I prefer playing games to playing movies.

Soviet Heavy:
Can we please move on from Americans and Russians? It's like Cold War paranoia is starting up again, like the gaming industry hasn't realized that the Cold War ended over twenty years ago.

In Reality, Russia and China are our biggest threats. Both have attacked us numerous times in Cyber Space and have the capability to cripple us greatly in a possible future Cyber War (no, that isn't a joke. Cyber War is VERY capable of happening now).

I thought this website was for people that like computer games. I'd agree that this is probably Dice and EA making the most out of the engine resources before the new console hardware drops and that it doesn't do anything particularly new. But how can you watch that and not be, even a little, impressed?

I do hope they scale up the MP battles abit though, what with games like Planetside 2 having huge persistent battlefields. I like sandbox games as much as the next gamer but does that mean linear, scripted experiences aren't allowed anymore?

I think there is a place for them still and this looks to be one of the best at doing that sort of thing.

They should just stop pumping time and money into campaigns trying in vain to compete with CoD's market space and focus on making an awesome multiplayer experience. BUT OH WELL

Not interested int he game play at all cause I've pretty much lost all urge to play FPS in general, even TF2. I must say though, run this on Ultra settings and it will be beautiful.

Return of the FMV?

That trailer was hilarious.

The funniest part was when the helicopter pilot waited each time for the player to giver her the order to shoot the hostiles right in front of her.

The second funniest part was when those four guys survived the collapse of the factory.

Gameplay starts off in a grey corridor. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Also, I am sick to fucking death of this teal-and-orange colour scheme getting slathered on literally everything. It's bad enough with every film trailer out there, Halo 4, Mass Effect 3, even Battlefield 3, but this trailer was even worse.

Developers, marketing people, you have colours other than blue and orange. Yes, they sit on opposite ends of the colour spectrum, but that isn't a reason to stick to those two colours and nothing else. Try a different colour scheme for once. Seriously. It's getting embarrassing.

rasputin0009:

It's the same as how snowboarders always say "fucking skiers" and skiers always say "fucking snowboarders" when they get in each other's way on the hill. I bet civilians say "fucking soldiers". You're looking way too deep and getting frustrated over nothing.

That is why it is called a rant. :)

Besides I already had this argument with someone else that had a peaceful conclusion.

Kalezian:

after going through the training, this has what I have come up with.

I hate civilians. undisciplined, obnoxious, wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire.

I like Soldiers, we went through the same stuff.

I. Love. My. Scouts.

during "Family day", which was really just a three day pass to mark the transition from IET to the AIT portion, the number one thing that got on my nerves were the civilians.

Not all of them, but the ones who only see the uniform and the first thing that pops into their mind is we have money since we dont have much to spend on, especially if you are single. Even then military personnel are severely underpaid for what they do.

Teachers even get paid more than soldiers, which is saying something.

I dont expect people to understand the sentiment, but go through training, go to your unit, be in the atmosphere, and you quickly start to hang out primarily with other soldiers.

Thankyou for calmly putting forth your perspective.

Reusing old assets, EA? Thought so. I will definitely not be picking this up, after the disaster that was Battlefield 3. All these anti-Russian games have left me with a bad taste in my mouth, let me go clean my pallet with Spec Ops or Infinite.

Little Duck:

ksn0va:
We just want Bad Company 3 :(

So long as it isn't like BC2 I'm game for that. Bad company 1 was "You are cannon fodder. Survive and steal money." and your superiors just ran around trying to get you killed. BC2 was "You are elite soldiers because LOL"

Didn't play the campaign for both BC 1 and 2. All I want for Bad Company 3 is for the multi-player to be an exension of BC 2. BC 2's multi-player was so fun that I continued playing it 6 months into Battlefield 3's release.

ksn0va:

Little Duck:

ksn0va:
We just want Bad Company 3 :(

So long as it isn't like BC2 I'm game for that. Bad company 1 was "You are cannon fodder. Survive and steal money." and your superiors just ran around trying to get you killed. BC2 was "You are elite soldiers because LOL"

Didn't play the campaign for both BC 1 and 2. All I want for Bad Company 3 is for the multi-player to be an exension of BC 2. BC 2's multi-player was so fun that I continued playing it 6 months into Battlefield 3's release.

Actually yeah, it was absolute amaze balls. BC1 actually had generals who were like "THE GOLD IS MINE! I mean ours." and with BC2, some of my all time favourite gaming moments have come from that games multiplayer.

Capitano Segnaposto:

Soviet Heavy:
Can we please move on from Americans and Russians? It's like Cold War paranoia is starting up again, like the gaming industry hasn't realized that the Cold War ended over twenty years ago.

In Reality, Russia and China are our biggest threats. Both have attacked us numerous times in Cyber Space and have the capability to cripple us greatly in a possible future Cyber War (no, that isn't a joke. Cyber War is VERY capable of happening now).

Does that excuse them from recycling Tom Clancy's cold war fantasies a hundredfold? Just because it could happen doesn't mean we need to see this kind of crap constantly. It's like the game industry is begging Russia or china to just invade already so that they can feel validated in their obsession with starting World War 3.

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Am I the only one who thinks this guy looks like Nicholas Cage?

Soviet Heavy:

Does that excuse them from recycling Tom Clancy's cold war fantasies a hundredfold? Just because it could happen doesn't mean we need to see this kind of crap constantly. It's like the game industry is begging Russia or china to just invade already so that they can feel validated in their obsession with starting World War 3.

I can understand your pain on this, but if you want a fictional global conflict with big set-piece battles in the contemporary era, who else is there? North Korea? Homefront tried that already.

Binnsyboy:
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Am I the only one who thinks this guy looks like Nicholas Cage?

NOW I CAN'T UNSEE IT D:

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