Thief Teaser Steps Out of the Shadows

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Thief Teaser Steps Out of the Shadows

The first-ever trailer for the new Thief is finally here, but something - or someone - is missing.

After years of waiting, the first real look at Eidos Montreal's take on Thief has arrived and I'm really not sure what to make of it. For one thing, it's very brief and dark, so it's hard to really get an eye on what's happening. But it also seems rather heavy on the action - which, to be fair, isn't entirely surprising, given how difficult it is to make straight-up stealth gameplay interesting in a teaser.

One thing that fans of the franchise will notice straight away, however, is the absence of Stephen Russell, the man who gave memorable voice to Garrett, the game's central character. Garrett is still the protagonist of the new game, but it would appear that a new voice actor has been handed the reins. Knowing the Thief crowd as I do, I suspect this will not go over well with an awful lot of them.

The sword-dodging ninja thing is a bit alarming as well if you come at it from that perspective, but as one disinterested observer put it, "It's a CGI trailer with no sneaking in it," and it's a bit early at this point to start getting too wound up. Besides which, it's been nearly 15 years since Garrett debuted in Thief: The Dark Project; that's an awful long time in the world of videogames and like it or not, things change. Somewhat ironically, it's also been 15 years since David Hayter first put voice to Solid Snake, and his release from that franchise led me mere hours ago to describe Garrett as "inextricably tied" to voice actor Stephen Russell. The universe works in mysterious ways.

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And Glynnis Talken Campbell voiced Kerrigan before she was replaced with Tricia Helfer in SC2.
Is now every voice actor change worthy of a drama?
I seriously didn't know the voice of Garrett was a "thing". - Sorry Russell I could not care less.

People apparently get hooked so much on the 3 seconds of action yet avoiding the guard and observing the loot does bypass them. "Without sneaking"? - Well there it was duh...

Everything about this game looks good to me thus far.

"This game is anticipated to be rated Mature" I don't know why but that made me laugh really hard.

I actually really liked that trailer. Never played the original games, so I can't even pretend to say how different it is, but from the trailer, i can admire it at least talking about being a ghost in the shadows, preparing traps and the like. Hopefully that actually translates into gameplay though, and isn't just fancy trailer dialogue.

It doesnt really say much, it has sneaking and it has action (that for now is only related to defensive action like traps, dodges and grappling hooks).

Cant really complain there, and Garret doesnt look bad, it fits well with the tone of the world he is in.

Gameplay aside, the loss of The original Garrett SUCKS. To the point where i was originally gonna give this a chance even though the gameplay wont be the same, to now where im over it. completely. no magic sucked, less stealth sucked worse, but no Stephen is a deal breaker.

The voice... I don't know it just doesn't seem the same without Stephen Russell... He just fit Garret, same with David Hayter with Snake.

I just don't see why suddenly they're removing the voice actors that go with their characters. I understand this is a possible "reboot" (well I can't actually say since they haven't said if it's a sequel, prequel, or reboot, been kind of vague), but was the voice change really needed?

I know that it's just a CGI trailer and not actual gameplay, but it did set off some alarms for me.
I hope that they have a very good reason for not having the original VA. I dislike it very much when publishers/developers do this.
I also hope that they won't just make some new ninja game with the Thief logo, and actually make a Thief game instead.

Doom972:
I know that it's just a CGI trailer and not actual gameplay, but it did set off some alarms for me.
I hope that they have a very good reason for not having the original VA. I dislike it very much when publishers/developers do this.
I also hope that they won't just make some new ninja game with the Thief logo, and actually make a Thief game instead.

That's my problem... While they did say it's similar... A lot of what they have shown screams "We want to be Dishonored!" Hell the story outside of Garret is a downright copy of Dishonored.

A baron has taken over the city and a plague has set in...

The new Garret doesn't look or sound anything like the original. :( This all just makes me really sad imo. More so since they said they're taking out most of the supernatural elements which made the original unique. The pagans, hammerites, and the Keepers... Going to miss them.

The lack of Stephen Russell is a real shame, particularly since he still does voice acting for video games. However, providing the gameplay is great it's an absence I can deal with.

No Stephen Russel......*deep breath*

It sucks, and really does affect my interest in this, however despite that, and that this trailer still showed no gameplay, Garret at least looks like garret, the game seems like it got the aesthetic down too, so I guess you could count me as mildy, cautiously curious.

Certainly not a 60 dollar game.

jollybarracuda:
I actually really liked that trailer. Never played the original games, so I can't even pretend to say how different it is, but from the trailer, i can admire it at least talking about being a ghost in the shadows, preparing traps and the like. Hopefully that actually translates into gameplay though, and isn't just fancy trailer dialogue.

If you enjoy stealth games at all, you're missing out having not played the earlier ones. Get thee to GOG.

Most stealth games now seem to think that stealth is achieved if you manage to get out alive without the alarms having been set off, no matter how many enemies you take out (lethally or otherwise) -- and sadly, it looks like this game might be following in those footsteps.

The true brilliance of Thief though was that, if you were good enough, you could get in, get the loot, and get out without leaving any evidence beyond some rumours about the place being haunted.

It's possible that the voice is just a placeholder. Thief obviously still has a long way to go before it's ready, so it's possible that Russell may yet turn up. It'll be disappointing if not, but surprising too - after all, why cut Russell loose and pick up someone new if he's just going to do a (bad) imitation of the original?

Oh...uh yeah I fear I must rest in the expecting to dislike it but still hoping camp.

No magic and thus old factions will be missing or changed... ok I may be able to roll with it
Garrett voice possible missing... ok could live with it if the character stays true to the original.
The thief energy meter idea like the hitman instinct idea was worrisome.
This looks like dishonored in tone so I hope they keep some of the thief humor.
I hope the game is done in such a way I can turn waypoints off and not be hindered.

Too many ifs... should they come true I may skip it and just play thief 2 instead.
I fear the thief community will be far more upset with this than I and I love the games.

THE LACK OF THE USE OF TAFFER THUS FAR HAS PUSHED ME TOO FAR. WHO ARE THE TAFFERS MAKING THESE ADS?

I swear this only bothers me a little bit...SOB..on the inside.

Nonononononono. This trailer was marvelous, but the lack of Stephen Russel is a big nono. Kudos to this new guy for trying, but it's sad to not see, well, hear, the iconic voice again. Russel IS Garrett. Hope this is just a placeholder.

Kwil:

jollybarracuda:
I actually really liked that trailer. Never played the original games, so I can't even pretend to say how different it is, but from the trailer, i can admire it at least talking about being a ghost in the shadows, preparing traps and the like. Hopefully that actually translates into gameplay though, and isn't just fancy trailer dialogue.

If you enjoy stealth games at all, you're missing out having not played the earlier ones. Get thee to GOG.

Most stealth games now seem to think that stealth is achieved if you manage to get out alive without the alarms having been set off, no matter how many enemies you take out (lethally or otherwise) -- and sadly, it looks like this game might be following in those footsteps.

The true brilliance of Thief though was that, if you were good enough, you could get in, get the loot, and get out without leaving any evidence beyond some rumours about the place being haunted.

I really want to try them, and I do love a good stealth game. But every time I try and get myself to make the purchase, I look at a youtube video of them and think "oh...there's something looking dated, and then there's...this". I'm sure they're amazing, and I probably really am cheating myself out of a great game so, next time the series goes on sale, I think I might just have to buy it and finally see what it's all about.

I still think the german voice of garret in Thief 1 and 2 was the best one. That voice actor was even better then the english one.

Well, but comparing Stephen Russel and the voice in the new trailer I'd say it's a step down. :(

In addition I want to see gameplay before deciding wether or not this game will be any good.

Andy Chalk:
It's possible that the voice is just a placeholder. Thief obviously still has a long way to go before it's ready..

no, andy. stop lying to yourself. we all know that this franchise will fall to the curse of the current game industry and garrett will be voiced by Nolan North.

Nolan North will voice every character in the future.

maybe he is cheaper by the dozen..

Andy Chalk:
It's possible that the voice is just a placeholder. Thief obviously still has a long way to go before it's ready, so it's possible that Russell may yet turn up. It'll be disappointing if not, but surprising too - after all, why cut Russell loose and pick up someone new if he's just going to do a (bad) imitation of the original?

You just gave me renewed hope. I mean, they've already turned off fans by removing magic and by changing Garrett's appearance, it's practically suicide if they get rid of his voice as well. I can't see any reason why Russell would turn down the role, or why they wouldn't approach him, so there really isn't a proper explanation.

The trailer was nice though, I'll admit that.

Trailer looks great but doesn't really tell much about the gameplay. Most of it seems to be from cutscenes.

Really, people are getting upset because Garret has another voice? It really is that whole Tomb Raider thing all over again, isn't it? "How dare you change anything this 13 years old character?!?!"
Don't you think all that drama is a bit too drastic?

I'm curious about this one. Smells and looks a whole lot like Dishonored, which isn't bad, because I can always use more Dishonored.

If it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. However, I'm going to have to wait for an actual in-game teaser, before I know what this thing sounds like.

While keeping Stephen Russel would've been better, meaning, it will give them a higher chance of success at "getting it right", as long as they actually do get it right, it won't be such a big deal.

As for the action portrayed here, namely, evading instead of fighting, that is an intriguing option, and I find I'm not so viscerally opposed to it. But as an add-on; I still want a totally stealthy experience, without the need to "evade" or kill anyone, unless I choose to.

Notice, I said "anyone", not "anything". In T1, I did my fair bit of undead "killing" (and while "Return to the Cathedral" was a superb example of an undead level done right, it was the only undead level done right). Ditto for the friendly robots in T2 (which I found superior to the undead because you could get rid of them in a stealthier fashion).

Not too fussed about changing the voice actor, so long as they get the character right. This new guy doesn't sound nearly as jaded/cynical as he should though. Russel's voice seemed to capture the anti-hero spirit of Garrett, they really need a replacement who's able to do the same; this guy isn't it.

I've been playing Thief Gold lately - never played the games before and although it's difficult to get over how dated everything is, I'm really enjoying it. Unfortunately, the levels tend to be quite hit and miss. Half of them are a barrel of laughs that have you breaking into mansions, stealing everything that isn't nailed down and smacking dumb guards over the head with your blackjack. The other half are dull labyrinths filled with nothing but zombies, spiders and ghosts with only a handful of pieces of loot.

I am really enjoying the story though and hope to move on to Thief's 2 & 3. Here's hoping this new one will be good.

Kingjackl:
I've been playing Thief Gold lately - never played the games before and although it's difficult to get over how dated everything is, I'm really enjoying it. Unfortunately, the levels tend to be quite hit and miss. Half of them are a barrel of laughs that have you breaking into mansions, stealing everything that isn't nailed down and smacking dumb guards over the head with your blackjack. The other half are dull labyrinths filled with nothing but zombies, spiders and ghosts with only a handful of pieces of loot.

I am really enjoying the story though and hope to move on to Thief's 2 & 3. Here's hoping this new one will be good.

I don't know about Thief 2 (still playing through Thief Gold), but 3 while having smaller levels, I felt were better designed however. It doesn't have many levels with just zombies, although some levels will have a mix of people and creatures.

I had never heard if the Thief series until after they had largely run their course, and with the long interim between the previous and upcoming titles had assumed it over and done.

Since this trailer looked quite nice, I'm pleased to be in a position of not having any prior attachment to the characterization of Garrett.

I actually liked the voice in the trailer, which is somewhat uncommon for me to say.

I skipped Dishonored because the art style alone turns me off. I've seen a few LP vids of it, and the gameplay looks solid if not ridiculously easy given your multitude of magic powers like slow time, teleport, rats etc.

I know, its much harder to stealth/no kill it.

I'm hoping that Thief will deliver on the gameplay, and judging from the trailer its already has a pleasing art direction.

It would be nice if it weren't super serious, brooding, and motivated by vengeance for a change. Revenge has been done, so many times. Its trite.

I'm not saying it should be a more grown up Sly Cooper, but yeah I'm hoping its got some of that charm I've heard tell of in the earlier series.

The little cynic in me wonders how many people actually knew who voiced Garrett before they realized the actor had changed. It's been a while since I've last replayed the Thief games, but the soft gravely voiced Garrett here doesn't seem all that different from before...

The new teaser seems reminiscent of the trailer and intro for Deadly Shadows with the focus on the tools and the 'job' (the absence of silly quotes, neck shooting and demons is a plus though). This is pretty much what I wanted to see from the game at this point.

it's like making batman arkham game without Kevin Conroy as Batman and Mark Hamill as Joker.

Now the circle is complete. No Michael Ironside for Sam Fisher, no David Hayter for Snake, no Stephen Russell for Garrett. It's like every major stealth franchise has done this.

To be fair though, Garret's new voice actor isn't half bad, unlike the little dick that voices Sam now. at least they didn't give the role of a 50-year-old character to a 20-year-old actor.

And the trailer looks gorgeous. I though it was quite sneaky and stealthy and the one bit of action in it was just an evasive maneuver, I'm guessing one of the options you have when you get caught. It reminded me of the old thief games quite a lot, I'm loving it so far.

Ishigami:
And Glynnis Talken Campbell voiced Kerrigan before she was replaced with Tricia Helfer in SC2.
Is now every voice actor change worthy of a drama?
I seriously didn't know the voice of Garrett was a "thing". - Sorry Russell I could not care less.

People apparently get hooked so much on the 3 seconds of action yet avoiding the guard and observing the loot does bypass them. "Without sneaking"? - Well there it was duh...

Everything about this game looks good to me thus far.

Sam Fisher without Michael Ironside.
Solid Snake without David Hayter.

And now Garrett without Stephen Russell.

Yes. It is worthy of the drama simply to make developers stop doing this shit.

Of course his voice is a 'thing'! You almost never see his face in the first three games, and the only attachment to him comes from his sarcastic and witty comments about various situations. The voice is the only thing that defines him.

And now it's gone.

Devil May Cry, Diablo, Splinter Cell, Duke Nukem, Warcraft, Call Of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect and now Thief. Which series will developers ruin next? Tune in next week to find out!

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But in all seriousness, until we see some gameplay, I'm indifferent about this

I never thought of Garret's voice as something iconic. But I understand people who feel differently and for them I'd want it to be the same voice actor because I know how much it sucks when they replace it.

I can't wait for actual gameplay footage.

GameMaNiAC:
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And there I assumed that a game is ruined when the gameplay sucked... Especially in a series that pretty much defined the stealth'em up.

Lets put it just in relation: The last game of this series was released 9 years ago and the VA has not done anything in this field since TES V: Skyrim. Who knows, maybe he retired / wasn't physically able to do this job? No, it must be the 'evil' developers who want to ruin the series!!!

Looks like Garret is still sporting his mechanical eye. So that's a plus.

Dodging a sword? For shame. The point of Thief was to never be in that situation to begin with! Though it's a CGI trailer, so I'll give it a pass.

The more important question is: Where is Benny!?

I hope it's just a ruse. Get everyone riles up about no Russel and then reveal him at a later stage and everyone will rejoice.

Please let that be true, please.

The trailer itself is pretty much what I would expect from something trying to get people who never heard about Thief "hooked" on the game. Guess it's wait for the good ol' actual gameplay for me.

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