Ouya Promises Console Will Be Fixed Before June 4 Launch

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Ouya Promises Console Will Be Fixed Before June 4 Launch

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Backer rewards include design kinks and software bugs.

There's still a couple of months to go before the Ouya hits shelves, but early units are already making their way into the hands of Kickstarter backers. The response thus far has been decidedly mixed, with most professional reviews concluding that the console seems more like a prototype than a finished product. The Ouya's threadbare interface and anemic feature list are problematic, but it's the noted lag between pressing a button on the pad and things actually happening on screen that sounds like the biggest deal-breaker. As Engadget's Ben Gilbert noted in his review:

"From games to UI, the lag was a noticeable issue - other journalists we spoke with encountered the same issue. It's not something that's impossible to fix, of course. Even Nintendo's speeding up its Wii U software issues in an upcoming patch, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise to see Ouya correcting the lag issue before June's retail launch."

"Responsiveness," along with the dodgy game install process and lack of payment options, is one of several issues CEO, Julie Uhrman, has promised her team will address before the console's official launch on June 4th.

We will continue to obsess over quality and performance," she wrote on the Ouya official blog. "For example, we are considering adding additional magnets to the controllers so that the faceplates are more secure-no more falling off during shipments!

"Got more suggestions?" she continued. "Because you will have exclusive access to the system while it's in development we want to hear from you. We want you to love it!"

Source: Ouya.tv

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Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

This thing is designed to fail. I have a feeling it will crash hard.

They developed the Ouya like a High School boy jerks off: Finished too soon :P

One of the biggest problems I read was how easy it was to purchase content from the store or game, but that should be somewhat alleviated with a parental lock.

The other problem that notable is, and even the Ouya team accidentally boasted this, is that thanks to promising that Ouya can perform as an emulation box ready to play the games of the past, these emulators are able to direct you to downloadable ROMs for emulation. And that's the gray area - Emulation has been able to defend itself and succeed, but ownership of the actual ROMs can be considered illegal if not cleared by the rightful owner of the game. The Ouya could very much find themselves in legal trouble if they don't keep a tight leash on what can and can't be done by emulators.

Grey Carter:
"Got more suggestions?" she continued. "Because you will have exclusive access to the system while it's in development we want to hear from you. We want you to love it!"

Yeah, I've got one. Just a small one, mind you. Nothing major. Ready? Here's my suggestion:

Don't release a console that isn't ready so people can review it and give it the low marks it deserves for the sorry state you shipped it to them in, thus creating negative press for your platform and driving consumers away.

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

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Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

mjc0961:
Yeah, I've got one. Just a small one, mind you. Nothing major. Ready? Here's my suggestion:

Don't release a console that isn't ready so people can review it and give it the low marks it deserves for the sorry state you shipped it to them in, thus creating negative press for your platform and driving consumers away.

They stated all over the Kickstarter page and Ouya home site that the Kickstarter consoles were pre-release development units and that they might have issues that should be reported to the Ouya dev team. What more should they do? Have a flashing screen that comes up on every boot saying "THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT UNIT. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE ISSUES!"?

i still think this will probably fail as a console, but mainly because of idiots expecting it to be a next-generation XBox and PlayStation beater.

I have no idea how to pronounce the name of the console, I have no idea what the focus of the gaming library will be (I heard legacy console emulation and mobile games), and I have not seen this console function at any point in the year I have been hearing about it.

They really need to sort this out. I would suggest delaying this thing until autumn; people will be more likely to part with their money around the holiday season.

I think the console will do alright. The intent of the project was to create a platform that could run a variety of light weight games while hooked to a screen bigger than that of an IPhone, while also being free from the 3g/4g phone service model.

Also, another way to think of this console is that it is leverage for companies to devote some time into a controller based control scheme on a greater variety of games. If that happens, then tablets could finally have some good controller support.

Laughing Man:

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

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Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

Sidney Buit:

Laughing Man:

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

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Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

...You do realize that there are phones that can be connected to a TV thanks to an HDMI port, and use a remote controller via Bluetooth, right?

There was even a few phones that had a projector built into them a few years ago!

CrossLOPER:
I have no idea how to pronounce the name of the console, I have no idea what the focus of the gaming library will be (I heard legacy console emulation and mobile games), and I have not seen this console function at any point in the year I have been hearing about it.

They really need to sort this out. I would suggest delaying this thing until autumn; people will be more likely to part with their money around the holiday season.

It rhymes with booyah.

Andrew_C:

mjc0961:
Yeah, I've got one. Just a small one, mind you. Nothing major. Ready? Here's my suggestion:

Don't release a console that isn't ready so people can review it and give it the low marks it deserves for the sorry state you shipped it to them in, thus creating negative press for your platform and driving consumers away.

They stated all over the Kickstarter page and Ouya home site that the Kickstarter consoles were pre-release development units and that they might have issues that should be reported to the Ouya dev team. What more should they do? Have a flashing screen that comes up on every boot saying "THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT UNIT. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE ISSUES!"?

i still think this will probably fail as a console, but mainly because of idiots expecting it to be a next-generation XBox and PlayStation beater.

Getting that "people don't understand how Kickstarter works" feeling again

Yeah, it's buggy. It's brand new console from a start-up company that you got 3 months in advanced

It's nowhere near as attractive as the upcoming Xbox, right? You know, the one that bricks itself if your WiFi stalls (#dealwithit)

I'm pulling for the Ouya. It's a longshot, sure, but it's looking like we'll need some new options in the coming console gen

I thought the issue was starkly telling--
they wanted an open source console that indie developers could program for--
and after polling the backers about the games they expected on it, it was pretty much bioshock infinite, codblops2, skyrim, and so on. I was under the impression that the thing was really meant for, like, supermeatboy and pirated old games.

I wish them luck.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

The guy after me said it all really, but just to confirm, yeah it can be.

I'm pulling for the Ouya. It's a longshot, sure, but it's looking like we'll need some new options in the coming console gen

You do know that the Ouya isn't an option? If the PC was a Veyron the PS4 and Next box would be a BMW M5 and a Merc CLK Black, the Ouya on the other hand would be a Unicycle with a flat tyre.

Dr.Awkward:

Sidney Buit:

Laughing Man:

Um yeah

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Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

...You do realize that there are phones that can be connected to a TV thanks to an HDMI port, and use a remote controller via Bluetooth, right?

There was even a few phones that had a projector built into them a few years ago!

You forgot to mention how cheap phones have gotten and one with decent parts only costs around $99 without a 2 contract at $60 a month. Oh wait...

The only way this thing will succeed is if they can make it run Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, N64, GC, and maybe even Wii games. But I don't see that happening with the Tegra 3, maybe if they went with Tegra 4 it could've happened.

Sidney Buit:

Laughing Man:

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

image

Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

Yes via HDMI and a bluetooth controller

Sidney Buit:

Laughing Man:

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

image

Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

Many phones have an HDMI port, allowing you to do just that, not to mention being able to do it wirelessly.

For controllers:

http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0

http://www.amazon.com/Snakebyte-iDroid-Rechargeable-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B0090WBXSM/ref=pd_sim_cps_5

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Throttle-Controller-Games-Smartphones/dp/B00B77OKNI/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

Just a small taste.

I'm not that surprised, but this brings another question to mind -- if they're planning on annual releases, doesn't that mean they need to get the ball rolling? You can't say you're gonna make Ouya 1, 2, 3, etc. but then make every release buggy until the next one comes out. That gives incentive for people to wait, meaning you won't sell units.

Maybe it's because I'm tired but this seems like they are setting themselves up for a guaranteed failure, which would be a pity, considering I'd really like an open-to-indie console. I guess we've got to just hope the PS4 works out with things like Unity.

mjc0961:

i still think this will probably fail as a console, but mainly because of idiots expecting it to be a next-generation XBox and PlayStation beater.

That's a large part of the problem, actually. The Ouya team created a device that must compete with the other consoles. In the face of a tremendous power gap regardless of what steps they take to optimize, the game will literally live or die based on the capricious whims of a independent developers. Being utterly incapable of competing with any other device means that it will never be a significant factor when it comes to multiplaform titles and without a significant install base even a cursory attempt to port any such title would be foolish at best.

In it's favor, it has a wide variety of games featuring an overwhelming amount of shameless rip offs of a handful of successful titles all made for devices that are very much suited for shallow and brief bouts of gameplay. The only strengths of the device are price point and the potential of the platform for piracy purposes. That might be sufficient for it to become a curiosity piece for many but nothing that's going to actually get this platform to move in any volume.

I think the main problem of the Ouya is that like the PS4 and the WiiU, it doesn't offer an answer to the elephant in the room, namely the fact that the console market is one messed up landscape. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a crash (Jim Sterling), but the truth is that consoles currently survive on two propositions alone: game libraries and price. They are losing the battle on both fronts to desktop and mobile platforms.

Console designers are chasing ideas that have been tried and implemented on other platforms. They have yet to come up with something that makes home consoles a distinct experience. I am not talking about gimmicks like the second screen, social networks and so forth. Something has to happen, but I have no idea what that will be.

As for the Ouya, yeah, much of the negativity is completely unwarranted. It will probably do the things it sets out to do and do them just fine. The problem I see is: it doesn't set out to do a whole lot. It is more of a proof-of-concept than anything else of the fact that consoles could be funded via kickstarter. It's not exciting to more than a niche audience technologically, and it will never have a selection of games even remotely rivalling those of its competitors - because it's not trying to.

It's an experiment that will end with the moment the console is released. From that on forward, it will be a toy for enthusiasts only. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but people should not consider the Ouya the saviour arisen of console gaming.

Even though console gaming is in dire need of one.

Disclaimer: I am not on any side of the console wars and I consider the premise excessively silly. I'm a PC gamer as much as I am a XBOX, Wii and Playstation, or for that matter iPhone/Android gamer. Yes, I have all platforms, yes I play them depending on what I am in the mood for. Don't try to put me into a drawer, for I'm not sure I'll fit.

Monsterfurby:
It is more of a proof-of-concept than anything else of the fact that consoles could be funded via kickstarter.

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about that. Of course, that suggests an alternate possibility to my probably-too-suspicious mind:
Step 1: Raise lots of money via Kickstarter.
Step 2: Stash large chunk of money in offshore bank account.
Step 3: Ship half-assed console developed with remaining funds.
Step 4: Declare bankruptcy.
Step 5: Point to console shipped in step 3 as "evidence of good intent" to survive resulting criminal lawsuit.

I'm not saying I think this is what they did. Honestly, I rather doubt it -- there's a lot more than a few million bucks at stake for a successful console. But if the launch is delayed indefinitely to "fix problems discovered in the development process", well, I'll start to wonder.

Wow, so much negativity...

I've pre-ordered my Ouya, I wasn't quick enough to be a backer - but damn, I'm getting me one.

In an age of "next gen will be always on" and costing upwards of "400" I think I'll have one of these 80 babies instead. I can see a lot of economy struck parents thinking a similar thing.

Also, as a developer: Hobbyists can program one of these little guys.. They can't code for an X-Box or a Playstation.

Also there is a problem with coding for a phone hooked up to a tv with a bluetooth controller; You have to code the game to take advantage of the controller before it can be used - It doesn't understand the new controller by some code magic.
You have to code an Ouya game to cater for the controller too, but then you've made an Ouya game, not a generic phone game with support for controllers. Unless I'm seriously mistaken - phones with bluetooth controllers are not common and don't have any kind of market beyond a niche as generally people play mobile games on the move - and not on the tv. The Ouya is not a phone, it's a console.

So I'm going to wait till they ship the finals to customers and I have mine in my hand before I complain or pass judgement. The dev units were always going to be dev units and these guys deserve a chance.

Laughing Man:

Shame, hope it turns out well. I'd like one just for the sake of portability.

Um yeah

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Does everything the Ouya does, oh and it makes phone calls as well, and guess what, fits right in your pocket can't get much more portable than that.

Don't forget that a Samsung S3 I believe it is, is actually more powerful than the Ouya.

ascorbius:

Also there is a problem with coding for a phone hooked up to a tv with a bluetooth controller; You have to code the game to take advantage of the controller before it can be used - It doesn't understand the new controller by some code magic.
You have to code an Ouya game to cater for the controller too, but then you've made an Ouya game, not a generic phone game with support for controllers. Unless I'm seriously mistaken - phones with bluetooth controllers are not common and don't have any kind of market beyond a niche as generally people play mobile games on the move - and not on the tv. The Ouya is not a phone, it's a console.

A console that's less powerful than some phones. And does less. It's essentially Newgounds: The Console.

Laughing Man:

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

The guy after me said it all really, but just to confirm, yeah it can be.

I'm pulling for the Ouya. It's a longshot, sure, but it's looking like we'll need some new options in the coming console gen

You do know that the Ouya isn't an option? If the PC was a Veyron the PS4 and Next box would be a BMW M5 and a Merc CLK Black, the Ouya on the other hand would be a Unicycle with a flat tyre.

I am sorry, I really really can not let this chance go bye unused:
"So the PC has ungodly expensive accessories, is way to powerful to use, very much overhyped, consumes more energy than a small city and will only do one thing really well and that's pretty much going in a straight line, whilst the consoles will deliver pure fun in a completely mental package of power, speed and noise, but still prove to be an irresponsible, impractical choice for your daily life?"

Also, I would rather liken the Ouya to one of those shed-built sportscars. It's an admirable feat of perseverance and dedication, yet it's very much outperformed by the "big players".

Calibanbutcher:

Laughing Man:

Your phone can be connected to your TV and controlled via a remote controller?

The guy after me said it all really, but just to confirm, yeah it can be.

I'm pulling for the Ouya. It's a longshot, sure, but it's looking like we'll need some new options in the coming console gen

You do know that the Ouya isn't an option? If the PC was a Veyron the PS4 and Next box would be a BMW M5 and a Merc CLK Black, the Ouya on the other hand would be a Unicycle with a flat tyre.

I am sorry, I really really can not let this chance go bye unused:
"So the PC has ungodly expensive accessories, is way to powerful to use, very much overhyped, consumes more energy than a small city and will only do one thing really well and that's pretty much going in a straight line, whilst the consoles will deliver pure fun in a completely mental package of power, speed and noise, but still prove to be an irresponsible, impractical choice for your daily life?"

Also, I would rather liken the Ouya to one of those shed-built sportscars. It's an admirable feat of perseverance and dedication, yet it's very much outperformed by the "big players".

The Ouya was planned as a shed build sportscar, but all the planning and building was done by kids who had no idea what they were doing, so they ended up with a rickety wooden pedal car.

Frostbite3789:

Calibanbutcher:

Laughing Man:

The guy after me said it all really, but just to confirm, yeah it can be.

You do know that the Ouya isn't an option? If the PC was a Veyron the PS4 and Next box would be a BMW M5 and a Merc CLK Black, the Ouya on the other hand would be a Unicycle with a flat tyre.

I am sorry, I really really can not let this chance go bye unused:
"So the PC has ungodly expensive accessories, is way to powerful to use, very much overhyped, consumes more energy than a small city and will only do one thing really well and that's pretty much going in a straight line, whilst the consoles will deliver pure fun in a completely mental package of power, speed and noise, but still prove to be an irresponsible, impractical choice for your daily life?"

Also, I would rather liken the Ouya to one of those shed-built sportscars. It's an admirable feat of perseverance and dedication, yet it's very much outperformed by the "big players".

The Ouya was planned as a shed build sportscar, but all the planning and building was done by kids who had no idea what they were doing, so they ended up with a rickety wooden pedal car.

So it's a TVR then?
Hur hur hur.

(Also, I don't want to be too judgemental before having seen the retail model in action, but being judgemental is just too much fun)

Calibanbutcher:

So it's a TVR then?
Hur hur hur.

(Also, I don't want to be too judgemental before having seen the retail model in action, but being judgemental is just too much fun)

They're making it way too easy to be judgemental. Nothing about this seems like it's going to actually be a good thing. "Play all your favorite mobile games that you play as time sinks while on the go! But from the comfort of your couch! On outdated technology for a phone even!"

If I'm doing that, why don't I just play a real game?

Frostbite3789:

Calibanbutcher:

So it's a TVR then?
Hur hur hur.

(Also, I don't want to be too judgemental before having seen the retail model in action, but being judgemental is just too much fun)

They're making it way too easy to be judgemental. Nothing about this seems like it's going to actually be a good thing. "Play all your favorite mobile games that you play as time sinks while on the go! But from the comfort of your couch! On outdated technology for a phone even!"

If I'm doing that, why don't I just play a real game?

But you're implying that we NEED super hardware to make a real game. Most games made right now don't really need the hardware they are on other than for graphics.

The Apple BOOM:

But you're implying that we NEED super hardware to make a real game. Most games made right now don't really need the hardware they are on other than for graphics.

When it can't even run something like FTL, I don't have high hopes. The only games that look any kind of interesting would be via the emulators they're advertising. And oh look I'm typing this from a computer, which can do that too. And I don't have to spend another $100 this way.

Edit: Oh and way to assume processing power is only for GRAFIX bro. Don't need it for NPC behaviors, game worlds or anything like that. Nope it's only used for the GRAFIX. (Pssst, you sound like a hipster)

Frostbite3789:

The Apple BOOM:

But you're implying that we NEED super hardware to make a real game. Most games made right now don't really need the hardware they are on other than for graphics.

When it can't even run something like FTL, I don't have high hopes. The only games that look any kind of interesting would be via the emulators they're advertising. And oh look I'm typing this from a computer, which can do that too. And I don't have to spend another $100 this way.

The only way I see FTL's requirements being higher than Ouya's capabilities is in processing speed, and as been brought up many times recently, most of that can be factored out due to computers also running an intensive OS in the background as opposed to dedicated consoles.

Frostbite3789:

Calibanbutcher:

So it's a TVR then?
Hur hur hur.

(Also, I don't want to be too judgemental before having seen the retail model in action, but being judgemental is just too much fun)

They're making it way too easy to be judgemental. Nothing about this seems like it's going to actually be a good thing. "Play all your favorite mobile games that you play as time sinks while on the go! But from the comfort of your couch! On outdated technology for a phone even!"

If I'm doing that, why don't I just play a real game?

Please define "Real Game".

All games for the Ouya have to be compiled for the Ouya and put onto the Ouya market.
You won't be just installing the apps for your phone.
Games that do well on the Ouya will do so because they target a different demographic to the phone market.

http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?2068-Responses-to-the-Common-OUYA-Questions-Comments-amp-Naysayers

The Apple BOOM:

Frostbite3789:

The Apple BOOM:

But you're implying that we NEED super hardware to make a real game. Most games made right now don't really need the hardware they are on other than for graphics.

When it can't even run something like FTL, I don't have high hopes. The only games that look any kind of interesting would be via the emulators they're advertising. And oh look I'm typing this from a computer, which can do that too. And I don't have to spend another $100 this way.

The only way I see FTL's requirements being higher than Ouya's capabilities is in processing speed, and as been brought up many times recently, most of that can be factored out due to computers also running an intensive OS in the background as opposed to dedicated consoles.

What can it do that a phone/my computer can't? Please enlighten me to why spending $100 is a good idea. It's a low/mid range smart phone. Or super super super super super super super super old low end computer.

Oh boy?

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