AVG Says Most Game Hacks Are Crawling With Malware

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AVG Says Most Game Hacks Are Crawling With Malware

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Anti-virus group AVG claims that more than 90% of game hacks and cracks contain malware or malicious code.

Think twice before downloading "SuPa-LeGiT-xXxWallHAX" in the hopes of being able to dominate every Counter-Strike Source server. Anti-virus group AVG warns that the vast majority (over 90%) of such hacks, as well as cracks that allow you to play pirated games, contain malware or "malicious code." It claimed that a lot of these hacks didn't just contain malware, but were simply malware programs in disguise.

"Even if we assume that just 0.1% of the gamers playing the top five titles go looking for a hack - a highly conservative estimate - that means 330,000 people are potentially at risk of falling victim to game hack malware," said AVG in a press release. "This could lead to the loss of any legitimate, paid-for gaming assets, as well as sensitive personal data such as bank details and email or social media passwords."

AVG used metasearch services such as FilesTube and FileCrop to analyze scores of hacks and cracks to find this data. So, not only will hacking or pirating a game give you that sinking feeling of being morally wrong, it may also steal your credit card information. The bottom line is something we (should) all already know: stay away from hacks and cracks, kids!

AVG publishes the widely utilized "AVG Anti-virus" which comes with a "free" edition. I used to use AVG Free almost exclusively, until I got tired of it being a memory hog and incessantly nagging me to buy the full version. Nowadays I get by with Windows Defender and Malwarebytes. Whatever your anti-virus of choice, here's a friendly reminder to keep it up-to-date!

Source: Games.on.net

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Counter: 80% of all statistical data is generally skewed via a false premise, too little information, or a blatant lie.

AVG is a pretty solid anti-virus, but let's leave mod-hunting to the mod-hunters, mkay?

So do 90% of legally aquired games, it's called DRM.

Right guys? right??? Ehem...

I'm sorry I was too busy uninstalling AVG from every person's computer I see because of how terrible their software actually has performed at catching malware, trojans and basic viruses.

Of course I uninstall about 90% of people's anti-virus software simply because of how many terrible ads they are shown and how it makes their computers just that inefficient because software like AVG are just resource hogs. I've had video editing software that has been less of a resource hog than most anti-virus software I've come across.

Also, yeah, if you purposefully mark cracks as malware in your anti-virus software (because publishers pay you under the table to deter the computer-illiterate with the threat of the VIRUS, which is pretty much an open secret at this point), then you have no damn right to be surprised that most cracks register as malware in your system. Real classy, AVG.

Yeah... I call bullshit.

I used to be pretty active using those things in the past, and I cought a virus from doing it only once and that was CIH (Tjernobyl) for win98 back in the last millenium. Reading the wikipedia article about it ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIH_%28computer_virus%29 ), its author apparantly designed it because of the hubris of Anti-Virus makers.
Imagine that...

From my experience these days you mostly catch viruses from malicious emails and websites.

And how many of those are false-positives?

By their definition yes, because the way hacks operate(accessing games memory space) is very similar to what malware does.
Of course this is the same as calling kitchen knives weapons of a serial killer, tools do not equal intent.

Also make sure you have something better then AVG because it doesn't find shit when it comes to actual malware.

They are kind of right. Statistically. I use cracks for a few old SP games so that I wouldn't have to use the disc. But only a moron would actually download a malware crack. Just go to a random torrent site and search for a crack of some kind. You'll get a few search results from "trusted" crackers, but the huge majority of the results will be malware uploads.

Also, AVG sucks.

Did AVG actually catch any of those "malware" programs.. or did they notice something was wrong when their PC went apeshit?

Also to the people from AVG..... stop downloading your trainers / editors from random places.

Technically it might be true, if you are talking about the average of all existing cracks.

Also, it tells absolutely nothing useful, given that you can just type any game's name into any torrent site and the first, most popular result will happen to be from the clean 10%, and generally the average user can avoid that 90% without any special effort.

What is a trusted source though.

I use cracks for playing uncensored versions of games I buy(one case last year) and try to find trusted sources, in other words, groups with a reputation and download locations that are peer reviewed. That said, good faith is more or less required as well, though waiting a few days after the crack's release and checking it with virus scanners is always a good idea.

AVG will of course also want to sell its product. It's quite difficult to get independant sources to confirm statements like this. Figuring this out is quite a challenge, though the safest route is of course to avoid cracks alltogether.

That is the silliest graphic I've ever seen.

I wanted to ask who paid them to say such nonsense, but

AVG used metasearch services such as FilesTube and FileCrop to analyze scores of hacks and cracks to find this data

Well that's possible. Self-respecting grups only release the good stuff. Whatever you can download on those 'tubes', nobody knows. But I'd bet most of those aren't even hacks and cracks, but just some random crap that gets downloaded to the computer, usually automatically.

BTW yes, I download cracks for games I buy. Go on, mark me as the bad guy. I'll rather take my chances with a good cracking group and 1000 people who give feedback about it than some corporate spyware like SecuROM, StarForce, Origin or Steam.

Wait, this is AVG we're talking here, the reigning King of False Positives. Hell, just because of the way trainers work, AVG condemns them all to be virus-filled viruses with virus on the side.

If AVG made pregnancy tests, people would sell it as a gag gift.

If AVG were running NORAD at the height of the Cold War, we'd all be irradiated skeletons.

If AVG made cars, your "Check Engine" light would double as a reading lamp.

I think you get the idea by now.

Uhhh 330 million people are playing the top 5 titles? Top 5 titles in what category? Are they including hacks for Bejeweled and Minesweeper?

AVG just went full EA with their bullshit and foot in mouth.

What, are you telling me that completely unsuspicious .exe file that someone put on their shady website and which promises to automate headshots and make walls disappear in a popular game whose developer puts a magillion dollars into anti-cheat software is actually just meant to infiltrate my computer?

I am shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED.

AVG was know as All Viruses Guaranteed at the computer repair shop I worked at. AVG is one of the WORST programs I have ever seen for keeping your system safe. It misses things that other programs catch and it false positives off of things that are not even slightly related to what they ping as. So if they say this kind of BS I bet they really do believe it...

Side note most of the people who came into get their system repaired and had AVG were over the age of 50..... I want to use the antivirus that grandmothers approve of what about you?

Well, AVG is not the sharpest spoon in the drawer when it comes to anti-malware software.

Also wouldn't pretty much EVERY hack and crack be considered malware since what it does is hijack and alter the way a piece of legit software works?

I can see people putting up hacks riddled with malicious software as a revenge scheme to every bastard that pissed them off online, don't know if AVG is the right program to catch it with, though.
What do you say, Avast?

"It's shit!"

Anti-Virus company claims basically every PC gamer (because who hasn't cracked something, even legit gamers occasionally have to crack their stuff to mod it) has a virus that only they can find and cure!!!

Seems legit.

Let's be fair from the article they are talking about hacks for online games. Like say Path of Exile, Diablo 3, starcraft 2, Simcity MMORPGs etc etc. I've little doubt that most of those hacks are 100% fake. No CD cracks, and stuff that removes DRM is a different animal entirely though and while their might be fakes out there, there are more real cracks than that.

Scrythe:

If AVG were running NORAD at the height of the Cold War, we'd all be irradiated skeletons.

Assuming they actually got results when they responded to the threat. I'm betting not.

DVS BSTrD:
Uhhh 330 million people are playing the top 5 titles? Top 5 titles in what category? Are they including hacks for Bejeweled and Minesweeper?

Don't laugh. I hear the Hot Coffee mod for Minesweeper is incedibly popular.

It's highly probable that they're throwing out the "90%" value to scare people into thinking maybe that they have a virus, which could increase sales on AVG.
Didn't Ubisoft put out a similar thing about how 90% of PC gamers are pirates? I'd like to see something a little more solid to back up huge claims like those, other than mere conjecture.

Not that I pirate games (except a couple of extremely obscure and ancient titles I couldn't find for sale), a lot of people DO pirate. So if 90% of those guys got a virus, I think we'd have heard something about it by now.

Tar Palantir:
And how many of those are false-positives?

That is a very good question. I've got some mods for an old game that turn up as a false positive in Avira, but come clean under everything else I've thrown at it. Apparently the Heuristics engine sees the way they exploit a vulnerability in the game's code in order to change it, and they get flagged as a potential virus because, you know, that's what viruses (as in the real deal, not your garden variety malware) do. Considering that DRM cracks and trainers work on a similar principle, it wouldn't surprise me if AVG is just being too aggressive with the heuristics.

Captcha: Face the music.

Sounds like good advice for AVG.

Sgt. Sykes:
I wanted to ask who paid them to say such nonsense, but

AVG used metasearch services such as FilesTube and FileCrop to analyze scores of hacks and cracks to find this data

Well that's possible. Self-respecting grups only release the good stuff. Whatever you can download on those 'tubes', nobody knows. But I'd bet most of those aren't even hacks and cracks, but just some random crap that gets downloaded to the computer, usually automatically.

BTW yes, I download cracks for games I buy. Go on, mark me as the bad guy. I'll rather take my chances with a good cracking group and 1000 people who give feedback about it than some corporate spyware like SecuROM, StarForce, Origin or Steam.

Don't know about Filecrop, but Filestube is just a search engine for file locker sites (like Rapidshare and the now defunct Megaupload), which the major hacking groups do use.

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What is with these kinds of stock images for "hackers"? A business tie? A paperweight Macbook? A skimask?

ALL FOUR FINGERS ON THE SPACEBAR WATCH OUT GUYS THIS ONE'S SRS.

Most of the "hackers" I know to be underage script kiddies, with real hackers generally looking like your average dude.

Huh, I used to use hacks and such for games some time ago, I never got a virus from them. I did get a red alert notice when I tried to install Spybot Search & Destroy. ESET didn't like it and decided to obliterate the file. Found that a bit odd.

ESET didn't like AVG either. Also saw fit to obliterate it. I think ESET just likes killing things without discrimination.

Or we all just start not using Microsoft stuff and stop doing stupid shit and then live safe forever.
Back in my days I had quite a few viruses (even some months ago a keylogger thingy stole my battle.net account, even though I still don't know where I got that thing from)
All that got me to be very paranoid and I now use a virtual Linux machine to surf the web, along with noscript and ghostery), and exclusively use Linux on my uni-Laptop.

Wait. They based themselves off of what you could find out of websites like FilesTube? Seriously?

If anything, this makes AVG out to be rather illiterate when it comes to the cracking scene. Nobody from any of the cracking groups releases anything on public filesharing portals; you have to try torrents or GameCopyWorld for legitimate cracks.

As for a huge propensity of these modified executables being riddled with malware, well, sure! Idiots and trolls usually pick one group's released EXE and modify it. There's even been cases of fake cracks being released by proponents of harsher copyright laws.

Then there's AVG doing the publishers a solid by scaring people away. That's not what I'd call the most honest approach ever.

CrossLOPER:
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What is with these kinds of stock images for "hackers"? A business tie? A paperweight Macbook? A skimask?

ALL FOUR FINGERS ON THE SPACEBAR WATCH OUT GUYS THIS ONE'S SRS.

Most of the "hackers" I know to be underage script kiddies, with real hackers generally looking like your average dude.

Well of course he has to wear the ski mask. What if someone saw his face through the webcam? :P

On topic:

I too would like to know how many false positives make up this percentage. I run kaspersky and even that throws up the odd malware warning on certain mods and even just standard game launchers sometimes.

Mithcha:

ESET didn't like AVG either. Also saw fit to obliterate it.

Harharhar somehow that doesnt make me like ESET any less. Not like having 2 AVs at the same time is ever a good idea anyway, suppose the strongest one suvived here.

Yeah if you get it from some seedy website with no filters on.

You think!?

If you know where to get them legitimately though and you keep your guards up at all times you'll be in no danger.

Lol @filestube That wouldnt be just 90% of game hacks, it would be 90% of everything you get there! If you get cracks from trusted teams you will be fine.

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