Mother 3 Fan Translation Team Offers All Assets To Nintendo

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Mother 3 Fan Translation Team Offers All Assets To Nintendo

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The team is willing to edit the files to fit whatever new standards are necessary (content, formatting, memory size, etc.)

Mother 3 is the sequel to quirky JRPG Mother 2, which you may know better as EarthBound in the US. Perhaps a little bit too quirky, the third installment of the series never saw a US release. But, if Kickstarter has shown us one thing, it's that you should never underestimate the dedication of fans. The Mother 3 Fan Translation Project dedicated itself to making an English patch for the Japanese Mother 3 ROM, a goal which they achieved in 2008. Now, perhaps in the wake of the EarthBound for virtual console announcement, the team has offered all of its assets up to Nintendo, in the hopes that an official English version of Mother 3 can be produced.

"I realize that localizing a game this size can cost a lot, so if it'll help in even the slightest, I'll gladly offer to let Nintendo use my text translation files for any use at all, completely for free," said lead translator Clyde Mandelin. Mandelin says he is willing to do whatever it takes to see an official translation of the game. "I'll even edit the files to fit whatever new standards are necessary (content, formatting, memory size, etc.), completely for free. I'll even retranslate everything from scratch if need be."

While very unlikely that Nintendo would use a fan translation for an official version of the game, Mandelin points out that it has actually happened before. Ys: The Oath in Felghana used a fan translation as a base for the game's official Western release. He believes that this sort of thing will become more and more common over time, but only if the work is up to a professional standard.

Mandelin believes his work is up to that professional standard. He stresses the fact that he is not just some kid who knows Japanese and loves Mother 3, he is actually a professional translator with many years of experience. He offers up a few references to let Nintendo know that he actually knows what he is doing.

"I definitely realize this is a silly-sounding offer and all, but I figure it's better to make the offer and seem silly than possibly miss an opportunity entirely," said Mandelin, hoping that someone at Nintendo will at least consider this offer if the localization of Mother 3 ever comes up in a business meeting.

Source: Mother 3 Fan Translation Project

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They can't acknowledge this, otherwise they would have to admit how petty it is for Japanese developers to withholding releases from the West. If anything, Mandelin's work is above their standards, at least where it counts.

Is there an award for modding he can win?

If the work is good I hope they take advantage of it! And if it's really good, hope the guy gets a job with Nintendo localizing content. As Nintendo needs to work on simultaneous launches of more of their games.

After watching a lets play of Earthbound and mother 1 and 2 from chuggaconroy I have wanted to play these games cause they looked like fun.

Well, on the off chance Nintendo actually did a Mother 3 localization using his work, I'd probably insta-buy it, simply to support the inclusion of fan input.

Did the same thing for Xenoblade's NA release. Didn't regret it.

DVS BSTrD:
They can't acknowledge this, otherwise they would have to realize how petty it is for Japanese developers to withholding releases from the West. If anything, Mandelin's work is above their standards, at least where it counts.

Sadly, I have to agree. Which sucks for people who want the game in the US.

A smart business decision that reduces costs, garners fan adoration, may lead to possible future offers to have fan translations used for free, release a highly anticipated game to a niche market through new digital download methods to cut back even further on the cost whilst simultaneously giving you an infinite number of copies without production time or shipping costs and also finally have a game that would sell Wii U's to that niche market?

Which Universe do you think you are in?!

A giant publisher/console manufacturer making a smart business decision that would basically cost them less than a 100'000 dollars to implement and in essence give them a profit if they sold over 5000 copies for 20$ a pop?!

Nigga Please!

They are most likely gonna slap a lawsuit in the guys face then take the fan translation and burn it in the Nintendo money furnaces.

1337mokro:
~snip~

Somebody's feeling cynical today. I reckon it actually has a chance of working out. Earthbound is already coming to the Wii U virtual console, after all.

leet_x1337:

1337mokro:
~snip~

Somebody's feeling cynical today. I reckon it actually has a chance of working out. Earthbound is already coming to the Wii U virtual console, after all.

Want to take a bet out on that? You seem to have faith in them :)

Well I

1337mokro:

leet_x1337:

1337mokro:
~snip~

Somebody's feeling cynical today. I reckon it actually has a chance of working out. Earthbound is already coming to the Wii U virtual console, after all.

Want to take a bet out on that? You seem to have faith in them :)

Well even though I own the SNES cartridge and roms of Earthbound I am going to buy the SHIT! out of it and if sales are high then it is logical that to save on costs they might use at least part of the Fan translated assets in a Mother 3 release. And if that sells well then BOOM, I might get my ultimate dream, that impossible dream, Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu in English.

We need to discover how to make this happen, and then make this happen. Internets, it is time you redeem yourselves.

Me and my friend have actually talked about that Nintendo should use the fan translation and get this game localized. It's doubtful that it will happen, but seriously, it would be profitable even if they paid for this to happen.

I'm right with team Mother modding madman Mandelin.

A fan of the series myself, I would absolutely just get myself a Wii or Wii U (again) in order to be able to buy (and maybe even play) Mother 3 with English localization. Even if some bits and pieces get stripped because of legal or whatever reasons, these games are still awesome and should be played and experienced by everyone.

DVS BSTrD:
They can't acknowledge this, otherwise they would have to admit how petty it is for Japanese developers to withholding releases from the West. If anything, Mandelin's work is above their standards, at least where it counts.

There is no honour in honour if you find yourself unable to admit defeat.

It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo scratched all they work and forbid them to release it. They haven't been particularly kind to fan projects in past.

I hope they do it and release it only as SNES carts to troll people.

I doubt their lawyers would let them do it (simply because it's a legally gray area and not fully in Nintendo's favor) and I doubt the team at Nintendo would want to use it. Using someone else's work strips them of creative control which doesn't mesh with Nintendo's philosophies.

I'm sure they'd want to release it in Europe too, which would require translating it into more than English.

And I wouldn't hope to see Mother 1 and 3 release worldwide unless Earthbound is a runaway success. What was great about the Miiverse support for Earthbound is every person who posted there was a guaranteed sale, considering they already own the console and are showing extreme interest in the project. Plus, I'm pretty sure more Americans and Europeans were on the Mother 2 Miiverse than Japanese fans, heh.

Still, it's an awesome gesture from some dedicated fans.

Why not? I've read scanlations & watched fansubs that were more accurate than the official translations.

Makes perfect sense to me, and I'd love to see this as an e shop release.

Apparently whatever legal troubles kept Nintendo from releasing Earthbound is over, so why the hell not?

I don't think this is going to happen. A large company using a fan translation in a commercial product is risky from a legal perspective. Anyone who contributed to the translation project, event passingly, could claim their contribution was used without compensation or permission. Unless this project was entirely a one man show or he had documented agreement from all other translators and developers involved to do this, and even if he did, I don't see this having much of a chance.

Though if it did happen, I'd totally buy it.

Scribblesense:
Using someone else's work strips them of creative control which doesn't mesh with Nintendo's philosophies.

No it doesn't. If Mandelin is willing to sell, or give away the rights to his work to Nintendo, it means Nintendo would get full creative control of it.

If they were going to translate this they would have done it already. Why would they take the risk to release a game only a niche amount of people still care about in this country, when a translation patch is already in the wild and any one who wanted to play it probably already has, when they could just rehash Mario and virtually print some money.

it just doesn't make a lick of sense.

Davroth:
Makes perfect sense to me, and I'd love to see this as an e shop release.

Apparently whatever legal troubles kept Nintendo from releasing Earthbound is over, so why the hell not?

They are releasing it on the eShop :D They announced that in the last Nintendo direct.

They should accept this offer, it's a really good translation and localization in general, I'd buy a Wii U or a 3DS because this is awesome and would give me a reason to have those things besides the next Zelda games, which I'm sure are coming eventually.

I have to ask. How many people honestly care about this game any more it has been what, 15-20 years since it was released? The people hat want this already played this, and even then how many of them will pay for it. I'm sorry buy that may be a loss-leader if they do release the game.

ToastiestZombie:

Davroth:
Makes perfect sense to me, and I'd love to see this as an e shop release.

Apparently whatever legal troubles kept Nintendo from releasing Earthbound is over, so why the hell not?

They are releasing it on the eShop :D They announced that in the last Nintendo direct.

The Wii-U E-Shop, specifically, which is why its been a point of contention with some people. They see it as a way to force sales of the Wii-U if you were interested in getting the game.

Personally I find the idea of limiting it to their weakest system an idiotic mistake. A $10-15 game isn't going to justify the cost of the Wii U, at least for me it wouldn't. Would of been much smarter to release it as a 3DS title on top of the Wii-U. Nintendo has technically already thrown aside the Wii's support, so this would be the next best thing they could do.

My god the Earthbound fandom is amazing. Never have I seen a fandom so connected by and fueled by love.

They should definitely consider accepting this offer. The fan translation of Final Fantasy V was drastically superior to the official FFV (PS1) translation, which was workmanlike at its best and faulty, incorrect and misleading the rest of the time.

DVS BSTrD:
They can't acknowledge this, otherwise they would have to admit how petty it is for Japanese developers to withholding releases from the West. If anything, Mandelin's work is above their standards, at least where it counts.

Dear lord, so much this. The writing in Mother 3 was incredible. Not once did it feel like a "fan project" but it was a high quality standard through and through. Then I take the time playing the Ace Attorney games again and notice all the typos and shit (and do not get me started on the German one... ugh)

Mother 3 needs to be released on the eshop, ffs, and I'll buy it and I'll donate the same amount of money to Mandelin for being too awesome for words.

leet_x1337:

1337mokro:
~snip~

Somebody's feeling cynical today. I reckon it actually has a chance of working out. Earthbound is already coming to the Wii U virtual console, after all.

And they're right to be cynical, given Nintendo's history of stubbornness in porting such games.

cursedseishi:

Would of been much smarter to release it as a 3DS title on top of the Wii-U.

In theory, that makes perfect sense, and personally, I'd love for that to happen.
In practice, the 3DS lacks a proper SNES emulator.

Take note of the types of retro games the 3DS actually plays:
Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, DS, and NES titles (and the NES games were ported to the GBA as "Classic NES Series" before, so the official emulation was already developed).

So the only SNES games they could port to the 3DS (like A Link to the Past for instance), would be those that were converted for the GBA first.

Now, I have no doubts that Nintendo could formulate a proper SNES emulator (people have got ZSNES to work on the original PSP, before Sony DRM'd that shit up) for the 3DS, but I get the feeling they aren't going to given their tunnel-vision attitude towards fan-input.

Go for it.

Do the right thing, Nintendo. This is how you breed consumer loyalty, by appreciating and rewarding good fans and talented fans at that. Not punishing them like Square did to Chrono Trigger fans. Or like Hasbro did to My Little Pony game fans.

This sort of thing builds a synergy between fans and content creators that is absolutely valuable and why indie developers are doing so well today.

AC10:
I hope they do it and release it only as SNES carts to troll people.

Considering my old SNES works, plus I have a Retron 3, I wouldn't be mad, I'd say, "Sweet!"

kiri2tsubasa:
I have to ask. How many people honestly care about this game any more it has been what, 15-20 years since it was released? The people hat want this already played this, and even then how many of them will pay for it. I'm sorry buy that may be a loss-leader if they do release the game.

If you've actually seen the video of fans expressing their gratitude on Miiverse, you would know the answer to that. There are people in this thread right now who have said they would gladly buy it so they can play the game properly instead of on an emulator, and to show Nintendo that there is a market for these types of lower profile, niche games. Given the number of people that have been waiting for so long for Nintendo to make this announcement, I think it's very likely they will make a profit. And the game was released seven (five for the translation,) years ago, so please don't throw out random numbers.

Quantum Star:

kiri2tsubasa:
I have to ask. How many people honestly care about this game any more it has been what, 15-20 years since it was released? The people hat want this already played this, and even then how many of them will pay for it. I'm sorry buy that may be a loss-leader if they do release the game.

If you've actually seen the video of fans expressing their gratitude on Miiverse, you would know the answer to that. There are people in this thread right now who have said they would gladly buy it so they can play the game properly instead of on an emulator, and to show Nintendo that there is a market for these types of lower profile, niche games. Given the number of people that have been waiting for so long for Nintendo to make this announcement, I think it's very likely they will make a profit. And the game was released seven (five for the translation,) years ago, so please don't throw out random numbers.

Considering that it was a squeal to a SNES game, you can not fault someone for thinking it was on the SNES, or the N64 at latest.

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