Konami Releasing Yet Another Metal Gear Solid Collection

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Konami Releasing Yet Another Metal Gear Solid Collection

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No, it doesn't include Twin Snakes. Or Portable Ops.

Do you like Metal Gear Solid? I mean do you really like Metal Gear Solid? If so, order a pizza and wash your Solid Snake jim jams, because Konami is giving you the chance to buy the entire series. Again. Kind of.

The Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection, a PS3 exclusive set to arrive June 2013, includes Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions, Metal gear Solid 2: HD Edition, Metal gear Solid 3: HD Edition [that's right, the collection contains the previous collection, insert your own Inception crack here), Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD Edition, Metal Gear Solid 4: Trophy Edition and two of Ashley Wood's Metal Gear Solid graphic novels.

Likely, the first question to emerge, half formed, from your quivering lips, is "Is Twin Snakes in there?" And the answer is no. No Twin Snakes. No. Not now, not ever. Twin Snakes was a Nintendo exclusive, and will likely remain so until someone can prise it from Satoru Iwata's cold dead fingers.Neither of the Portable Ops games are in there either, but their canonicity has always been a sticky issue.

"We wanted to give Metal Gear Solid fans the opportunity to experience the series from beginning to end, all on one console," said Konami president Tomoyuki Tsuboi. "With the collection's multiple titles, players can truly see how Metal Gear Solid evolved into the critically acclaimed and beloved franchise it is today."

At this point, most Metal Gear fans will own multiple copies of each game in the series, so the bundle's sales potential will likely be determined by two factors; How much it costs and how fancy the box is. If I recall correctly, this will be my fourth copy of MGS3, so that box had best be at least moderately fancy if Konami wants my hard-earned dollars.

Source: IGN

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The lack of Twin Snakes kinda blows, but I'm not losing any sleep over Portable Ops.

Still, this is a pretty damn sweet bundle. Glad I held out on the previous HD collection.

Grey Carter:
Konami Releasing Yet Another Metal Gear Solid Collection

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No, it doesn't include Twin Snakes. Or Portable Ops.

Do you like Metal Gear Solid? I mean do you really like Metal Gear Solid? If so, order a pizza and wash your Solid Snake jim jams, because Konami is giving you the chance to buy the entire series. Again. Kind of.

The Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection, a PS3 exclusive set to arrive June 2013, includes Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions, Metal gear Solid 2: HD Edition, Metal gear Solid 3: HD Edition [that's right, the collection contains the previous collection, insert your own Inception crack here), Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD Edition, Metal Gear Solid 4: Trophy Edition and two of Ashley Wood's Metal Gear Solid graphic novels.

Likely, the first question to emerge, half formed, from your quivering lips, is "Is Twin Snakes in there?" And the answer is no. No Twin Snakes. No. Not now, not ever. Twin Snakes was a Nintendo exclusive, and will likely remain so until someone can prise it from Satoru Iwata's cold dead fingers.Neither of the Portable Ops games are in there either, but their canonicity has always been a sticky issue.

"We wanted to give Metal Gear Solid fans the opportunity to experience the series from beginning to end, all on one console," said Konami president Tomoyuki Tsuboi. "With the collection's multiple titles, players can truly see how Metal Gear Solid evolved into the critically acclaimed and beloved franchise it is today."

At this point, most Metal Gear fans will own multiple copies of each game in the series, so the bundle's sales potential will likely be determined by two factors; How much it costs and how fancy the box is. If I recall correctly, this will be my fourth copy of MGS3, so that box had best be at least moderately fancy if Konami wants my hard-earned dollars.

Source: IGN

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Only Fourth? Ha!

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection PS3
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection 360
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection Vita (I don't even own a vita! Got it as a present Hehe)

So yea... I am excite. I will buy this just for my collection.

Copies of MGS3 is kind of like dakka.

You can never have enough.

Eh, I don't mind not getting The Twin Snakes, it wasn't that good. I'm not referring to the Matrixxy cutscenes, the lack of non-American accents for female characters, or the all-around wooden voice acting, either. Between significantly smarter AI and an array of new moves, but no map design or enemy placement tweaks to match, the balance and difficulty curve of TTS was an all around disaster.

P.S. Thanks

Dr Pussymagnet:
The lack of Twin Snakes kinda blows, but I'm not losing any sleep over Portable Ops.

Still, this is a pretty damn sweet bundle. Glad I held out on the previous HD collection.

See, I'm the opposite. Twin Snakes can go rot in a ditch with its bungled voice acting (character accents are gone), unneeded mechanics (game wasn't designed around hanging, first-person shooting, etc.), and dumb cutscene changes (back-flipping off of a missile? Really?). However, the lack of Portable Ops, even a straight port of it, is rather sad. I liked it a lot, and while it is questionably canon, it's still more relevant than the graphic novels. (Seriously, if you have all the games in one collection, you don't really NEED the graphic novels from a story standpoint. Heck, they even contradict the games sometimes, like with Snake being the one to defeat Solidus in the graphic novel of Sons of Liberty, whereas Raiden did it in the actual game.)

Still, might consider picking this up when it comes out, even though I bought the Essential Collection way back. Glad I held off on the HD Collection for PS3.

You know what could increase sales? Release it on the 360! That's the most logical place for a collection like this anyway.

I've held off on the HD collection because people keep saying that MGS1 is the most important one and I really want to experience the full story. Plus even if I got my hands on a PS1 copy of MGS, I hear it's 50/50 whether or not it works on PS2. And my PS2 is picky to start with these days.

This cherry picking of which MGS's get a 360 release is putting me off playing them because it's such a story-heavy series.

Damn it. I actually like The Twin Snakes. I'd like to see that one on the same system as the others. Same with Portable Ops. I think I'll pass, considering that I've already got those games.

I find the lack of Metal Gear Solid rather disturbing since its already had multiple releases including being on the psn store so there is really no reason not to include it.

Capitano Segnaposto:

Only Fourth? Ha!

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection PS3
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection 360
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection Vita (I don't even own a vita! Got it as a present Hehe)

So yea... I am excite. I will buy this just for my collection.

Was Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D the one that came in the essentials collection for the ps2 or is that a different one?

The future of Metal Gear Solid, eternal re-releases in slightly different boxes. Genius! It would have been good if it came with MGSV though. I'd throw some nanomachines at that kind of bundleage.

Little Gray:
I find the lack of Metal Gear Solid rather disturbing since its already had multiple releases including being on the psn store so there is really no reason not to include it.

Capitano Segnaposto:

Only Fourth? Ha!

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection PS3
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection 360
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection Vita (I don't even own a vita! Got it as a present Hehe)

So yea... I am excite. I will buy this just for my collection.

Was Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D the one that came in the essentials collection for the ps2 or is that a different one?

Huh? It was released on the 3DS not too long ago.

Frontastic:
I've held off on the HD collection because people keep saying that MGS1 is the most important one and I really want to experience the full story. Plus even if I got my hands on a PS1 copy of MGS, I hear it's 50/50 whether or not it works on PS2. And my PS2 is picky to start with these days.

MGS works on the fat PS2s flawlessly, on the skinny ones, when it feels like it.

I want it on my PC! The Xbox went to Ebay after Halo 4 convinced me I was done with it. MGS and 2 are out for it, but the others aren't (not counting emulators). Which annoys me!

Capitano Segnaposto:

Huh? It was released on the 3DS not too long ago.

Oh I didnt know that I dont pay attention to Nintendo release. I wasnt sure which version it was so I thought it might have been the one that came with the ps2 collection. After a quick look it appears that the ps2 collection one was just the subsistance version.

fix-the-spade:

Frontastic:
I've held off on the HD collection because people keep saying that MGS1 is the most important one and I really want to experience the full story. Plus even if I got my hands on a PS1 copy of MGS, I hear it's 50/50 whether or not it works on PS2. And my PS2 is picky to start with these days.

MGS works on the fat PS2s flawlessly, on the skinny ones, when it feels like it.

I want it on my PC! The Xbox went to Ebay after Halo 4 convinced me I was done with it. MGS and 2 are out for it, but the others aren't (not counting emulators). Which annoys me!

Why sell your consoles? Why not keep them around for when you feel like playing them? Never understood that "toss it when done" mentality.

Little Gray:

Capitano Segnaposto:

Huh? It was released on the 3DS not too long ago.

Oh I didnt know that I dont pay attention to Nintendo release. I wasnt sure which version it was so I thought it might have been the one that came with the ps2 collection.

Yep. It is my favorite MGS title so I am glad I can play it anywhere I go now. It is also great as it allows me to get my younger cousins in the series like I was when I turned seven.

Frontastic:
You know what could increase sales? Release it on the 360! That's the most logical place for a collection like this anyway.

I've held off on the HD collection because people keep saying that MGS1 is the most important one and I really want to experience the full story. Plus even if I got my hands on a PS1 copy of MGS, I hear it's 50/50 whether or not it works on PS2. And my PS2 is picky to start with these days.

This cherry picking of which MGS's get a 360 release is putting me off playing them because it's such a story-heavy series.

It has mgs4 so not much chance sorry.

Does Sony have some sort of exclusivity deal on MGS4 or something? Because surely the one group it would make sense for a collection like this to be made for is people on Xbox 360, who have no way of playing it (and 1, but with Twin Snakes for Gamecube I couldn't class that as Sony-exclusive)

It just seems daft.

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Why sell your consoles? Why not keep them around for when you feel like playing them? Never understood that "toss it when done" mentality.

I did the same with my 360 recently. There's just never nothing worthwhile playing on it

They should really re release Twin Snakes, I would really like to be able to play that game portable, at the very least. Without Twin Snakes, this collection seems to be redundant.

Capcha: Circle of Life
huh....

Kinda cool, kinda unnecessary too, but kinda cool. I misplaced my HD collection so the only way I'd buy this is if I can't find it.

VR missions... only fun part I remember from that game was the detective style missions. Everything else about that game was horrible.

So essentially these are all just things you could previously get easily on PSN, now in a "bundle"? Meh. Had my hopes up that there might be something new.

This is actually perfect for me!
Even though I already own MGS 1-4 and Peace Walker, I don't own any of the substance games (meaning I've never owned MGS3 substance and therefore never played Metal Gear 1 or 2), I've never played the VR expansion of MGS1, My PS2 disk of MGS2 barely functions anymore (even after I had it resurfaced it still freezes up right before fighting Solidus, which is INCREDIBLY aggravating), and personally I feel Peace Walker controls like CRAP on the PSP (but I've never liked the PSP so there's that).
If this whole collection is 60 bucks or less, I think that'll definitely be picking it up.

I would buy it if I didn't have all of those games already.

I still have the collection for the PS2.
I have MGS4, no-trophies one (No biggie)
I still have the MGS HD collection with Peace Walker.

The only thing I'd like are the Ashley Wood novels. But still, pretty sweet deal.

Andy Shandy:
Does Sony have some sort of exclusivity deal on MGS4 or something?

MGS 4 is allegedly 50GB in size (some sources state it's more like 33GB) which would mean that a single game in this collection would take up multiple DVDs on it's own.

I might actually get this. I don't own MGS3 Subsistence, MGS4 or Peace Walker so it's actually kind of a good deal for me... assuming it's at normal retail prices, that is.

Andy Shandy:
Does Sony have some sort of exclusivity deal on MGS4 or something? Because surely the one group it would make sense for a collection like this to be made for is people on Xbox 360, who have no way of playing it (and 1, but with Twin Snakes for Gamecube I couldn't class that as Sony-exclusive)

It just seems daft.

I think it's the fact that MGS4 takes up 50gb of storage space, whereas the Xbox DVDs can only store about 10gb of data. So to put MGS4 and the rest on the system they would have to make a collection with six discs, which would be a bitch in production costs.

OT: I already own the first 4 on their original consoles, the HD collection on the PS3 (and Vita) and Peace Walker on the Vita. All I need to get is Portable Ops and Twin Snakes (the latter of which being a bitch to find cheap) and I'll have pretty much all of the games.

Andy Shandy:
Does Sony have some sort of exclusivity deal on MGS4 or something? Because surely the one group it would make sense for a collection like this to be made for is people on Xbox 360, who have no way of playing it (and 1, but with Twin Snakes for Gamecube I couldn't class that as Sony-exclusive)

It just seems daft.

Well MGS 4 does have a part of the gameplay designed around the six axis controls at one point so that could be why konami won't release it on the 360.

OT: I will probably get this because I don't own the vr missions but aside from that I could pass unless it includes more features from Substance and Subsistance then the HD Collection had.

Frontastic:
You know what could increase sales? Release it on the 360! That's the most logical place for a collection like this anyway.

You're looking for sense in a kojima series.

...I think I see the problem there.

Capitano Segnaposto:
Why sell your consoles? Why not keep them around for when you feel like playing them? Never understood that "toss it when done" mentality.

Because I was done with it. I'd had it three years, played the entirety of Mass Effect and the 360 Halos on it and there nothing (literally nothing) on the horizon that looked even vaguely interesting.

I'd basically kept it to keep playing Halo, but I found 4 deathly dull and I have CE on my PC. No point keeping it around as a paperweight. There haven't been any 360 games that I've found completely indispensable, ODST came close, mighty close, but Compared to my Cube, PS2 and N64 it couldn't justify it's space under the telly.

Andy Shandy:
Does Sony have some sort of exclusivity deal on MGS4 or something?

Sony execs have Kojima's kitten hostage.

Well, it's a cat now.

ToastiestZombie:

I think it's the fact that MGS4 takes up 50gb of storage space, whereas the Xbox DVDs can only store about 10gb of data. So to put MGS4 and the rest on the system they would have to make a collection with six discs, which would be a bitch in production costs.

OT: I already own the first 4 on their original consoles, the HD collection on the PS3 (and Vita) and Peace Walker on the Vita. All I need to get is Portable Ops and Twin Snakes (the latter of which being a bitch to find cheap) and I'll have pretty much all of the games.

It's unlikely that, despite the claims it's true, MGS 4 actually needs anywhere near the full space of a BD ROM. However, when you shave that away, it gets worse.

Let's consider that the 360 doesn't utuilise a full DVD-9, and then throw in the fact that there is always some redundancy between discs. Some assets now need to be repeated. This usually accounts for a sizable chunk of the disc.

Yeah, if it's anywhere near 50 GB, it'd take more than six discs. I would double that number if the 50 GB isn't padding.

That being said, I do think it's a load of crap. Sort of like when Bioware made people download a padding file to make it look like ME3 DLC wasn't already on-disc (or at least, large portions of it). "We've filled a Blu Ray" sounds impressive and it's the sort of technical masturbation Kojima might involve himself in. Especially as he was already being ridiculed for his statements on the PS3.

A few questions for MGS fans.

I hear that chronologically, the games follow a different order (MGS3 is the first one, I think, and it ends with 4). Should I play it in order of release, or chronologically?

Does MGS: VR Missions have much to do with the story, or is it just what it sounds like?

Also, since Twin Snakes and Portable Ops aren't in this collection, am I missing much from them?

Thanks.

ScrabbitRabbit:
Snipped

ToastiestZombie:
Snipped 2: Electric Boogaloo

Ah, well then makes some sort of sense then. 5/6 discs may be quite a lot to add for one game, for what a collection that will already have a lot of discs.

I was unaware just quite how huge MGS4 was, although it does explain the install times being long as shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

Mrkillhappy:
Snipped 3: With A Vengeance

Also a fair point, what would we do without the ability to jiggle Rose's boobs =P

There's probably a feature I'm completely forgetting, but all I remember was the boob-jiggling ability XD

Zachary Amaranth:
Snipped 4: A New Hope

Honestly, that would not surprise me if that was the official reason given if they were ever asked about it.

Always loved the MGS series, even with some of the stupidity injected directly from outer space. But, I'm kinda getting sick of Kojima's shit. Especially his raging hard on for all things Sony. Other platforms do exist, but his "not if I have anything to say about it" attitude just smells of pretentious asshat-ery.

Andy Shandy:

Mrkillhappy:
Snipped 3: With A Vengeance

Also a fair point, what would we do without the ability to jiggle Rose's boobs =P

There's probably a feature I'm completely forgetting, but all I remember was the boob-jiggling ability XD

Yeah their is

Though I forgot about the Rose boob thing. XD

I already have all the games.

But I might buy this anyway because The Fury boss fight on the PS2 version of MGS3 has real bad frame rate issues on the PS3.

Plus it IS MGS3.

The:
A few questions for MGS fans.

I hear that chronologically, the games follow a different order (MGS3 is the first one, I think, and it ends with 4). Should I play it in order of release, or chronologically?

Does MGS: VR Missions have much to do with the story, or is it just what it sounds like?

Also, since Twin Snakes and Portable Ops aren't in this collection, am I missing much from them?

Thanks.

You can play them chronologically to get the story in that manner, or you can do order of release. Order of release makes the game's overall story feel like what would happen if a massive movie franchise spanned 30 years with a couple of canon spinoffs.

Both would seem to be fun, but playing by chronological order would be more cohesive. The only concise media franchise that I can think of that say its been as consistent with its own universe for as long has to go to Doctor Who, and that says something.

Not Star Wars, Not Star Trek, not Final Fantasy, not even other major franchises can say that they've kept a good lid on their universe for as long as Doctor Who and Metal Gear. Dragon Quest is another exception. The Metal Gear Series is grand on probably one of the most epic of levels. I'd be hard pressed to find another video game series that has gone on for this long and stayed connected with no reboot.

The:
A few questions for MGS fans.

I hear that chronologically, the games follow a different order (MGS3 is the first one, I think, and it ends with 4). Should I play it in order of release, or chronologically?

Does MGS: VR Missions have much to do with the story, or is it just what it sounds like?

Also, since Twin Snakes and Portable Ops aren't in this collection, am I missing much from them?

Thanks.

I would play them in release order purely for gameplay reasons, while MGS was a good game when it came out it's aged pretty badly so playing MGS3 first and then going back to MGS 1 and 2 would just be a bit jarring.

OT: I'm now glad I held off on getting the HD collection, this seems like a better bundle

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