Electronic Arts Signs Exclusive Star Wars Game Deal With Disney

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major_chaos:

My point is simply that I don't know why people are rushing for the torches and pichforks when at this point I don't think EA could possibly do any worse than Lucasarts.

And my point is that they can't do any better either, at least, not for the kind of game I'd actually give a damn about.

major_chaos:

My point is simply that I don't know why people are rushing for the torches and pichforks when at this point I don't think EA could possibly do any worse than Lucasarts.

Well, core difference is that Lucasarts might've made or published some mediocre to poor games in their waning years, although you still had some good stuff every once in a while, they never had exploitative DLC schemes, crippling DRM, or distribution platforms that double as intrusive DRM systems that scan all the content on your PC whether you like it or not.

So I think some people are more worried about things like the inability to ever buy a new Star Wars game on Steam or Green Man Gaming ever again, or being forced to buy a €60 game and then having to pay up at least another €20 worth of DLC just to see the full story than they are worried about the quality of the games.

008Zulu:
Doesn't Disney know how much people hate EA right now?

My guess is EA paid them a decent chunk of money for those rights. Odds are decent that this deal is going to bite EA on the ass more than Disney. As again, I'm assuming Disney got paid a lot for those rights and probably a decent percentage on each game with none of the risks. Its not like the Star Wars game brand can get any more tarnished. Star Wars fans are going to buy it no matter what, the rest of us are going to wait and see. If EA produces nothing but turds, it won't really change much reputation wise.

Plus from Disney's perceptive, it makes more sense to just get paid straight up for the exclusive rights and there's few publishers around who can do so. Steam doesn't have the man power to pump out a ton of games, I don't think Activision has that many as well, same with Ubisoft and EA has divisions for RPGs, 1st and 3rd person shooters, etc.

Not saying I'm happy as I'm not buying via Origin (or via consoles for that matter) but I'm also not buy Ubi games with Uplay and anyone else with added DRM (on top of Steam). So either way not many publishers that I'd be buying from anyhow.

Of course there's the conspiracy theory that Disney set this up to bankrupt EA (assuming they paid a huge amount for the rights plus tight Disney control over content and maybe even a tight schedule of X games/Y time). I doubt it, but I can't imagine EA can absorb too many failures especially if they paid big for the license. I'd imagine each game would have to sell amazing for EA to be happy with this deal.

008Zulu:
Doesn't Disney know how much people hate EA right now?

They also know that EA knows how to make games that sell millions and are mostly well reviewed (emphasis on "mostly" for the people still on the SimCity hatewagon). As loud as forum goers get about the tyranny of EA, the data tells a very different story.

Can everybody shut up?!?! EA has done a lot of good for the gaming industry. But just because they made a few mistakes doesn't mean they don't deserve hatred like this. Just shut it! You people are stubborn and hateful, maybe if you showed a little respect maybe they can look kindly on it and see what they can do. So please... stop being five year old crybabies and just see where this goes. >:(

Pedro The Hutt:

they never had exploitative DLC schemes

Oh we are doing this again aren't we.

crippling DRM,

Yep, we are.

or distribution platforms that double as intrusive DRM systems that scan all the content on your PC whether you like it or not.

I know, I hate Steam too... oh wait, are you talking about Origin? well its a good thing it doesn't actually do that and never has. Nice outdated scaremongering though.

So I think some people are more worried about things like the inability to ever buy a new Star Wars game on Steam

The monopoly is threatened, panic! only the mighty Valvelords are allowed to have exclusives!
Seriously, why is "not on Steam" suddenly treated like a horrible thing? No one complains about Valve games not being on Impulse last time I checked.

or being forced to buy a €60 game and then having to pay up at least another €20 worth of DLC just to see the full story

Well its a good thing EA has never done that either. Either that or you and me have very different definitions of "the full story".

Lets look on the brightside: EA must have shoveled off metric fucktons of money, to make that exclusive deal with Disney. With losses they've been getting lately, itt is now in our power to kill them once and for all if the games they make on this license are shitty and we vote with our wallets.

At this point I'm willing to give any company developing a star wars game a chance..... the only thing I'm hoping for now is that it's not another crappy COD or battlefield game in a star wars skin

Reyalsfeihc:
Wow, glad to see no one is throwing about any knee-jerk reactions here. Yes, EA has pulled some stupid s*** in the past couple of years, but let's think about the studios that they're handing the franchise off to, and what games will be handled by them.

My knee jerk reaction is based off precisely that though; the franchises I love, and how the EA brands will likely ruin them.

We have DICE, which is the obvious contender to develop Battlefront 3. As someone who absolutely loved the early BF games, and Battlefield 3, I'm not too concerned about them getting their hands on the Battlefront IP. We're not going to see a super gritty, color drained Battlefront game, as Battlefield is that way simply because it's stylized, and that's the direction they're taking it in. There's a lot to learn from the style and color pallets of Battlefront 1 & 2, and I'm sure that DICE will realize this when/if they begin development. Also, they would be the most likely of the three studios to develop sequels to Republic Commando.

So long as they don't try to turn it into a modern style shooter, its fine. If they make it like BF3, I'm out. BF3 was just an utter clusterfuck at the best of times. The maps were poorly designed, you died way too fast [4 Bullets to die for most guns, which fired 10 bullets a second. Yeah, loving the odds], Dislike the reducing accuracy as you keep firing being to such a stupid extent, and the fact that it all but forces you to use iron sights for anything but near-point-blank shootouts. Jets were also a disappointment for me. Terribly balanced [Why they didn't have flares right from the start is beyond me. An unlock that you have to get, whilst every other plane in the sky has heat seeking missiles and you have no way to shake them. Some genius thought of that...], and whilst I guess they probably controlled like a Jet I want nothing like them in Battlefront. The constantly shaking camera made it a pain to aim the guns, and without a flightstick it was difficult to fly one well. The great thing about Battlefront space battles was that you could grab a ship and fly it fine on your first flight as the controls were simple, and advanced manoeuvres were tied to a button combination, rather than having you try and fail to perform them yourself. Additionally, less focus on the vehicles. In Battlefront the vehicles were almost more support for the infantry that the main force of your attack. Every class could take out a tank, though it might take a while, whilst in BF3 if you weren't an engineer or support, you were fucked against a tank, and even as an engineer/support you had to rely on the tank driver being stupid + not having 3 engineers constantly repairing him in order to take one out. Less focus on the vehicles, more on the infantry combat.
Could turn out alright, it'd be harder to design Mos Eisly or the Death Star as badly as they did the BF3 maps, and there is no reason for ridiculous loss of accuracy when firing a laser weapon, plus the spacecraft are in space and shouldn't be shaking all over the place, and are hopefully easier to control, and it should look great thanks to Frostbyte, but judging by BF3 though I don't find that likely.

Bioware is arguably the most confusing of the three in terms of where their projects will take them. We'll probably see some KoToR-esque sequels to past franchises out of them, alongside continued development of The Old Republic until they run that into the ground. I'm unsure what new IP's will come out of their studios, as all I've ever known them for is Action-RPG's, but they definitely have the talent (at least outside of the writing department), to develop various types of titles.

Yeah, I don't have a lot of faith in Bioware on this one. KotOR was their Starwars chip, and they threw it away with TOR. They could theoretically make a KotOR 3, but I'd probably prefer Obsidian do it, and get it properly finished this time...
Otherwise I see us getting a terrible DA2 like action RPG. Just no, DA:O/KotOR style please.

TL;DR: Let's put those torches and pitchforks on layaway until we see some actual product.

I agree on waiting till the final product to give final judgement, but in my eyes this does not bode well.

ahaha the responses in this thread make me laugh so hard. Battlefield a bad game? HA! you're funny. wait for the games to come out and if it sucks ass THEN you can all get your panties in a bunch. Fucking hippies

Well actually, I'm pretty ex...

wait wait, I almost forgot... ahem...

*flame shield activated*

Well actually, I'm pretty excited. EA and the Star Wars franchise has had a pretty good relationship, and I almost see this as apart of EA's new strategy following the corporate shake up post-Simcity (you CANNOT tell me that it's simply coincidence that the same year that old CEO took over (2007) just HAPPENED to be the same year EA went to hell).

I can't wait to see what they cook up!

Now remember. For all you (And by all you, I mean every freaking person that will read my post) who will spew evil, sloppy, troll slime all over me for this, I have a flame shield. A FREAKING FLAME SHIELD! I'm invulnerable!

And yes, I am serious, and no I'm not trying to start a flame war. I know someone else will though, based off my comments. Hence the shield.

I know this clip has been posted but I still feel it best represents my reaction when I read the title.


Let's just hope that EA can redeem themselves from their past by releasing/finishing Battlefront 3 or KORTH.
(Still expecting that they wont but still here is to hope no matter how unlikely it will hold true)

Clearly, they have embraced the dark side in full and are no longer playing around.

FalloutJack:
Clearly, they have embraced the dark side in full and are no longer playing around.

*snickers* So all that remains is to wait for the cycle of internal conflict and assassination-succession to begin?
I guess the Mickey Mouse Mafia is finally going to have some competition from the inside at least.

Atmos Duality:

FalloutJack:
Clearly, they have embraced the dark side in full and are no longer playing around.

*snickers* So all that remains is to wait for the cycle of internal conflict and assassination-succession to begin?
I guess the Mickey Mouse Mafia is finally going to have some competition from the inside at least.

Well, since it's effectively Dillbert management and they're all a bunch of business buffoons, this means that you get a Catbert with a whipping light saber and a force lightning storm. Things could get brutal.

major_chaos:

The monopoly is threatened, panic! only the mighty Valvelords are allowed to have exclusives!
Seriously, why is "not on Steam" suddenly treated like a horrible thing? No one complains about Valve games not being on Impulse last time I checked.

You know, you could respond to things without sounding like an enormous prat about it. And I did mention Green Man Gaming in my post, and I could've listed other distribution services too, so selectively omitting parts of a sentence when quoting someone isn't very good journalism, or very sportsmanlike. And if you're wondering, I consider having a multitude of digital retailers to be able to buy games from a good thing, so I'd be no more happy with an absolute monopoly of Steam than I'd be with a Origin or (pretty unthinkable) GOG monopoly.

And you can't deny that EA has a lengthy history of bad business practices, including some of those on Origin, most of which have been documented in the news posts on this very website... so don't try and belittle me over something that actually bothers a good portion of the gaming community, or twist the facts like omitting that the Steam survey scan is an entirely optional part of the program that no user is forced to participate in.

All I keep thinking off is EA's Emperor*ehem* C.O smiling like they got the final piece to their deathstar. Something like this below, keeps me laughing so much.

If DICE bring Battlefield 3 to the table and it's good, I don't care what's done with the rest of the franchise.

I'm looking forward to this.
DICE seems like a good choice to get a decent team based shooter out. I couldn't give a fuck about Battefront but some people seem to have liked it...
Visceral could pick up SW1313. They have experience with this sort of game. I didn't like the more action based route Dead Space took but that could be alright for SW1313.
BioWare sticking to SWTOR is alright with me as well. I have a lot of fun with it atm.
Though I would like to see another SP RPG done.

Pedro The Hutt:
You know, you could respond to things without sounding like an enormous prat about it.

The Anti-EA crowd never bothered, why should I?

And I did mention Green Man Gaming in my post,

Which means very little when the only time I ever hear people mention, let alone praise that site, is when you can buy there and, you guessed it, activate on Steam.

and I could've listed other distribution services too

Who? GoG is a different beast entirely, same with Desura, Gamersgate is rather niche and not very popular, and I'm going to hazard a guess that you hate Impulse almost as much as Origin due to the gamestop connection.

so selectively omitting parts of a sentence when quoting someone isn't very good journalism,

Quick aside: "good journalism"? no. A favorite tactic of journalists? very much so.

And if you're wondering, I consider having a multitude of digital retailers to be able to buy games from a good thing, so I'd be no more happy with an absolute monopoly of Steam than I'd be with a Origin or (pretty unthinkable) GOG monopoly.

Then why is it that "no Steam, No sale" is practically this site's catchphrase anymore?

And you can't deny that EA has a lengthy history of bad business practices, including some of those on Origin,

EA has a history of doing mildly inconvenient stupid things and having the worst PR department ever, causing the internet to fly into a frenzy and label them the demonic spawn of Satan and Bernie Madoff.

most of which have been documented in the news posts on this very website...

Escapist "news" tends to be as biased and flame baiting as possible without full on lying.

so don't try and belittle me over something that actually bothers a good portion of the gaming community

"good portion" here meaning "a small vocal minority on some forums" based on the sales numbers EA still rakes in.

or twist the facts like omitting that the Steam survey scan is an entirely optional part of the program that no user is forced to participate in.

Then how about you don't omit that
A. Origin is not nearly as intrusive as the mass panic made it out to be.
B. Sure the Steam survey is optional. it just bugs you about it every so often. and does its best to mask the fact that it scrapes every byte of information they can get away with and doesn't mention it till the very end. (really, valve, every single program I have installed? I can think of several uses for that and non of them are nice.)

Clive Howlitzer:
I'd be more upset by this if there hadn't been a solid Star Wars game since X-Wing and Dark Forces and all of that. The games focused entirely on Jedi/Sith just don't do it for me. There is a lot more to Star Wars than that stuff. I'd kill for a game without a single lightsaber in it.

What about Republic Commando? At one point on a (mostly) abandoned Republic Ship, your Clone character can find a lightsaber in a vent beside a dead clone. He makes the comment, "An elegant weapon for a more civilised time, eh? Well, guess what? Times have changed."

OT: Add to the usual chorus of "Noooo" and all that. I've wanted Battlefront 3 for years, but I'm terrified to see what EA will do to it.

Irridium:
So I assume this means Obsidian's proposed Star Wars game isn't happening.

Damn...

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I actually just hope that they create Kinect 2.0 shovelware. I don't want to see Battlefront 3 as an Origin exclusive. The console version would likely be butchered for DLC, filled with microtransactions and sold with an online-pass.

Pedro The Hutt:

major_chaos:

The monopoly is threatened, panic! only the mighty Valvelords are allowed to have exclusives!
Seriously, why is "not on Steam" suddenly treated like a horrible thing? No one complains about Valve games not being on Impulse last time I checked.

You know, you could respond to things without sounding like an enormous prat about it. And I did mention Green Man Gaming in my post, and I could've listed other distribution services too, so selectively omitting parts of a sentence when quoting someone isn't very good journalism, or very sportsmanlike. And if you're wondering, I consider having a multitude of digital retailers to be able to buy games from a good thing, so I'd be no more happy with an absolute monopoly of Steam than I'd be with a Origin or (pretty unthinkable) GOG monopoly.

And you can't deny that EA has a lengthy history of bad business practices, including some of those on Origin, most of which have been documented in the news posts on this very website... so don't try and belittle me over something that actually bothers a good portion of the gaming community, or twist the facts like omitting that the Steam survey scan is an entirely optional part of the program that no user is forced to participate in.

On a slight deviation of your post I used to exclusively purchase my games on steam. When Origin started their whole "exclusive games only on origin" for ME3, BF3, Simcity, and whatever EA game I am forgetting about they just lost a sale from me and I moved on from those games.

However, GreenManGaming and Amazon have been stealing sales from steam this past year by having better deals. They didn't need to buy exclusivity and try and handcuff me to use their crap systems, they just needed to have a better deal/service and boom they have my money.

I love steam but I've noticed that their sales recently have been very lax (last x-mas sale was dreadful) and its nice to see some competition for steam through Amazon, GOG, and GMG. They are doing competition right while Origin is doing it all wrong much like all EA's decisions the past 2 years.

I, for one, will be holding no prejudices, and judging the game on its merits when we have more concrete details.

But I secretly know it's gonna be shit. 0_0

Frostbite3789:
I came here for the sadness and rage. And was not disappointed. Good show everyone!

Basically this.

Honestly, why are you all surprised? Either you were going to ignore the franchise or knowingly purchase the games just to get pissed off. This is such a waste of energy, yes it sucks but just get on with ignoring it.

One step forward, shut down Lucas Arts.
Two steps back, sell exclusive rights to EA.

Why not just resurrect LJN and let them have the contract? If you're going to be evil and greedy go all the way.

Akalabeth:
Seriously people wait for the flippin games to be released before you put on your drama queen dress.

Isn't everyone always bitching for a new Star Wars Battlefront? And the guys who make Battlefield are gonna be making Star Wars games?

The problem is that as long as this contract is valid, only EA will be able to make Star Wars games. We already know what EA's standard's are.

I wonder if they're going to try and use this franchise to compete with COD now.

I'm with the crowd that believes they should be trying for new franchises.

MrBenSampson:
I actually just hope that they create Kinect 2.0 shovelware. I don't want to see Battlefront 3 as an Origin exclusive. The console version would likely be butchered for DLC, filled with microtransactions and sold with an online-pass.

You know what, I do too. Bring on the kinect games. I don't want to live in a world where Battlefront 3 is ruined by anti-consumer company practices.

Is it just me or is everyone overreacting too soon? I mean, I hate EA as much as the next guy, and Star Wars is my favorite sci-fi franchise of all time, ever; but everyone seems to be forgetting that the Star Wars gaming franchise was fading away in recent years (not saying any of the recent releases were bad quality, they were all great, but they were few and far between).

I mean look at the upsides, you now have quality studios to work on NEW Star Wars games (BioWare, DICE, Visceral, etc).

There's plenty of money for funding new releases often (especially picking up titles that were 'cancelled' when Disney canned them recently (i.e. that one XBLA/PSN game that was barely mentioned, and 1313)

And there's the potential to pick up some of the best/most annoying cliff-hung (past tense cliff-hanging) franchises, and give them some resolution (Republic Commando, The Force Unleashed (they were two great games, shut your faces), and Battlefront 3, among others).

And for my final point (on the upside of things), THERE'S PLENTY OF CONTENT TO WORK WITH. THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

Everyone needs to stop being such drama queens, we haven't even seen any of their plans, so don't panic. Yet.

Yeah, considering the quality of EA's recent releases were at best on par of LucasArts final dying gasps I'm not that enthused by this development.

Damn it EA just stop ok.
why Disney why?

I don't hate EA, but I have detested Disney for over a decade. With our hated combined, this could be Captain Awful.

Oh, God Dammit (exclaimed I...I think the neighborhood heard me)

Alright, alright, I'll just wait and see what ends up being announced...No reason to get upset yet...although I have a sinking feeling that whatever comes to the Wii U will be atrophied versions of what the other consoles and PCs get while EA chides, "Oh, you want the better version of the game? Well then chose the one that supported Origin." or something along those lines.

Also it would be nice to have a new Knights of the Old Republic made by Bioware...provided it's made using the same RPG mechanics ie: everything is decided via 'dice roll'.

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