Electronic Arts Signs Exclusive Star Wars Game Deal With Disney

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The upside being since disney still retains the *online* game rights EA wont have the "it's an mmo" defence to fall back on.

Parakeettheprawn:
*pauses and thinks to self*

Something weird is happening... I'm... not breaking out into a rage.

My gosh... I finally did it... I LET GO OF BEING A STAR WARS NERD! I'M MERELY HOPEFUL THAT VISCERAL AND DICE PRODUCE FUN GAMES! It's finally happened! I AM SO HAPPY!

*glances at everyone raging while he frankly doesn't give a crap at this point*

...*sigh* that lasted a long time now didn't it?

Frankly I find that sad. To have lost you passion for a thing you liked. I pity you, friend.

"I've a bad feeling about this"

well it looked like Lucas Arts was going to closed down when SW got sold, so I'd written off any SW games in the future. The only way to get this taken off EA in the future is to vote with your wallet and not buy any SW/EA games full price.

That said, if you're happy with this, do as you please

So to play the new star wars games il have to get origin again?

Yeh no, been there, done that with me3, i aint falling for that again.

Not even battlefront 3, empire at war 2 or tie fighter 2 could convince me otherwise (maybe).

Though I'm a big Star Wars fan, I'm not going to join the rage band wagon I see going on here, even if I dislike EA as much as the other person.

I am very happy for DICE and Visceral Games, and believe both studios have the potential to make quality games with the Star Wars license. After all Battlefront was inspired from Battlefield 1942, and I have hopes that DICE will be given the green light to resurrect Battlefront 3. As the for the latter studio, well the Dead Space series had it's own solid sci-fi mythos with a maturity to it, that proves that Visceral have the talent for a story driven cinematic game. A survival horror with Rakghouls maybe? I would definitely buy that.

I don't get it, what is so bad about it? Star Wars is already an IP that shits out one bad game after another, the best thing that came out of it was that dancing minigame. How can EA make Star Worse games worse than they already are? The most successfull one out of the last years came from one of their studios for heavens sake.

You know what. They should've given the IP to Gearbox because I'm sure they love Star Wars as much as they did love Alien and we all know how well THAT turned out...

And here I had hoped EA was finally slowly dying, now they got a shot in the arm and will probably milk it as much as possible. My only hopes is this is a dead horse that parasite attached to and people will be worn down enough to not buy enough to stop them from hemoraging money out of their asses in marketing and poor decisions. With any luck, there is some "you have to make us profit" clauses in there by disney (wouldn't be surprised to be honest, Disney ain't dumb) and will be the final nail in the coffin for EA.

Captcha: Half done

I thought so too captcha, but EA limps ever onwards.

Eh, If they make Star Wars Battlefronts 3 a reality and it doesn't suck I'll be happy.

Well EA cant do anything without Disney's approval, its not as if EA can do what ever they want.

I just hope Disney makes the right choices, and doesn't let EA fuck everything up.

I don't know what to think about this. I hate EA and I don't think they should own exclusive rights to Star Wars games, but at the same time EA has DICE and DICE makes Battlefield. Battlefront is pretty much a Star Wars themed Battlefield. A new hope.

To quote George Broussard (ya, the 3D Realms guy),

"This deal's getting worse all the time - Lando"

MorganL4:

slash2x:
Holy hell no one did this already?

"as if millions of (geek)voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

See my post (number 16)

Sorry man, beat ya to it...

I claim partial victory because many people at work(like me) can not see videos in the comments. Also I added geek.

I give you 50% credit ;)

nice to see that Disney doing something with Star wars game license apart from mobile games. Dice and others doing stuff with star wars is a good news.

Given the last SW games were basically crap, I'm going to settle for good with crap on top.

Really? 5 pages and not a single "I feel a great disturbance" paraphrasing? I'm simultaneously a little disappointed, but also proud. Well done internet.

Well that shit's basically dead.

Great job morons.

We've all given EA chances in the past. We trusted them with BioWare, we trusted them with Dead Space, and every time the result is the same. Disappointment, micro-transactions, DRM, and day 1 DLC. I used to love EA as a publisher, they made some of my favorite games ever (System Shock, Bards Tale,The Sims,Command and Conquer to name a few) but as of late, every time I try and get excited for an EA game, I always end up dissapointed, so I'm done. And I'm gonna let EA know that I'm done. And unless these games turn out better than anyone could have hoped for or imagined, I don't think I'm gonna buy them, because I'm tired of EA's shit to be perfectly honest.

I sat through it when Mass Effect changed from an RPG with a real time battle system to a cover based shooter with what are essentially power-ups and a plot. I sat through it when the sims expansions got smaller and smaller. I sat through it when the Dead Space games stopped being survival horror and started being action games with clunky controls. I sat thru it when the KOTOR dialogue trees gave way to the cookie cutter ME convo wheels. I sat thru the day 1 DLC, the Micro-Transactions, the DRM. But no more. I'm done with seeing the games I love having their essence stripped from them.

And the rest of you guys should be too, we express that sentiment all the time. We STILL have HUGE threads about ME 1 and DA 1 and how good they were, and we ALSO still have huge threads about how disappointing the rest of the games in those franchises are! We've seen it time and time again. EA has given us no reason to put our faith in them, and every reason to assume they are gonna screw up.

Doom972:
Why not just resurrect LJN and let them have the contract? If you're going to be evil and greedy go all the way.

Akalabeth:
Seriously people wait for the flippin games to be released before you put on your drama queen dress.

Isn't everyone always bitching for a new Star Wars Battlefront? And the guys who make Battlefield are gonna be making Star Wars games?

The problem is that as long as this contract is valid, only EA will be able to make Star Wars games. We already know what EA's standard's are.

What standards would you prefer?
SEGA/Gearbox standards - buggy game that doesn't match up to expectations

Valve Standards - Multiplayer only. Games never released

Epic Standards - Nice third person action but no story worth giving two shits about.

Some of the other places like Activision/Ubisoft whatever have always online DRM or auction houses and that sort of nonsense as well.

The only standard that I know is that EA will throw a huge pile of money at it. They've done good games and bad games. On which side of the line it will fall remains to be seen

The Star Wars license is definitely a good thing for EA. I don't like many of their games and definitely don't like their business practices, but this gives them a chance to earn back some good will from the gaming community and hopefully learn that making good games is all you need to make money.

As a Nintendo fan, this is probably good for Nintendo, too. EA is all but publicly snubbing Nintendo at the moment, trying to "Dreamcast" them so to speak, and they have said their in-house Frostbite 3 engine was never up and running on Wii U. That's a problem because all the Star Wars games, and all their upcoming franchise releases are running on Frostbite 3.

With the Star Wars license, EA has a solid, monetary incentive to optimize Frostbite 3 for Wii U. It's not impossible, as the engine is supposed to be scalable and can run on 360 and PS3, but the low install base of Wii U and poor performance of EA games on Nintendo platforms convinced EA it was not profitable.

The Star Wars license will sell on Wii U, though - it's always had good performance on Nintendo platforms, meaning EA would leave money on the table not porting their Star Wars games to Wii U. Which would mean optimizing Frostbite 3 for Wii U, which would mean all their upcoming games which utilize the engine (Dragon Age 3, Battlefield 4, the next Mass Effect) could see ports.

This is an opportunity for EA to get a second chance on Nintendo platforms, to grow their install base and introduce consumers to their franchises, all subsidized by Disney and Star Wars.

If EA doesn't take that chance, they're insane.

I guess Knights of the Old Republic isn't going to be the only failed Star Wars "MMO" in the future.

My expectations and hopes are lowered but not destroyed. Ea and the developers under them have had a few cock-ups but they release some solid games. I'll keep some hope but not much.

Akalabeth:

Doom972:
Why not just resurrect LJN and let them have the contract? If you're going to be evil and greedy go all the way.

Akalabeth:
Seriously people wait for the flippin games to be released before you put on your drama queen dress.

Isn't everyone always bitching for a new Star Wars Battlefront? And the guys who make Battlefield are gonna be making Star Wars games?

The problem is that as long as this contract is valid, only EA will be able to make Star Wars games. We already know what EA's standard's are.

What standards would you prefer?
SEGA/Gearbox standards - buggy game that doesn't match up to expectations

Agreed.

Valve Standards - Multiplayer only. Games never released

What about Half Life 1 & 2 + the episodes, and the Portal games? Regardless of your personal opinion on them, they clearly are one of the best at single-player storytelling. Also, A Jedi Knight-like multiplayer game with tradable hats sounds good right now.

Epic Standards - Nice third person action but no story worth giving two shits about.

Agreed.

Some of the other places like Activision/Ubisoft whatever have always online DRM or auction houses and that sort of nonsense as well.

Agreed.

What about 2K or Square Enix? They seem to be on the right path recently. 2K released Bioshock Infinite and Squeenix did a nice job reviving the Eidos properties.

The only standard that I know is that EA will throw a huge pile of money at it. They've done good games and bad games. On which side of the line it will fall remains to be seen

They might do something good with it, but the fact that the contract is EXCLUSIVE to EA is the problem. This means that nobody else will get a chance at a Star Wars game anytime soon.

Doom972:

Valve Standards - Multiplayer only. Games never released

What about Half Life 1 & 2 + the episodes, and the Portal games? Regardless of your personal opinion on them, they clearly are one of the best at single-player storytelling. Also, A Jedi Knight-like multiplayer game with tradable hats sounds good right now.

Never played the portal games, but I've always found Valve over-rated.
If you want to talk about good story telling, look at a company like Ninja Theory (Enslaved, Heavenly Sword, DMC)

Half Life is notable because it included in-game story interaction which at the time was a new thing. But overall I've never really found their stories that note worthy. I mean what's the story of Half Life? Experiment goes wrong, aliens invade from another dimension, head craps, evil government, etcetera. Nothing ground breaking.

And again, they don't do single player games much any more. Even half of Portal 2 was co-op.
I give a company credit for what they're doing, not what they've done.

People give Valve credit for a 10 year old game but then don't give EA credit for Dead Space 1 or Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age or whatever (and yeah don't anyone bother replying with the tired old schtik of "those games were good because it was Bioware. I've heard it all before). They fixate on current Sim City / Dead Space 3, etcetera.

What about 2K or Square Enix? They seem to be on the right path recently. 2K released Bioshock Infinite and Squeenix did a nice job reviving the Eidos properties.

Yeah Deus Ex and (allegedly) Sleeping Dogs are good.
Do they have the money for such a big franchise though? I dunno.

Doom972:

They might do something good with it, but the fact that the contract is EXCLUSIVE to EA is the problem. This means that nobody else will get a chance at a Star Wars game anytime soon.

I don't actually find that a bad thing. The direction that Star Wars games have taken recently to me does not reflect the movies I grew up with. Like the grossly overpowered, superhero warriors that Jedi are now represented as for example. Again what happened to "Guardians of Peace". A lot of the movies seem to portray them more as Agents of Destruction and Death. And part of that problem is the prequel movies which frankly ruined a lot of the mythos. So games now build off the new mythos, which is shit.

So frankly.
It's been a long time since I cared about Star Wars games, or Star Wars movies in general. But with Abrams at the helm of the movie, and with EA about to throw money at it, I'll reserve judgement until I see what there is to offer. None of it will be phenomenal, but it might be a damn sight better than what came out under Lucas's reign.

nima55:

Parakeettheprawn:
*pauses and thinks to self*

Something weird is happening... I'm... not breaking out into a rage.

My gosh... I finally did it... I LET GO OF BEING A STAR WARS NERD! I'M MERELY HOPEFUL THAT VISCERAL AND DICE PRODUCE FUN GAMES! It's finally happened! I AM SO HAPPY!

*glances at everyone raging while he frankly doesn't give a crap at this point*

...*sigh* that lasted a long time now didn't it?

Frankly I find that sad. To have lost you passion for a thing you liked. I pity you, friend.

Normally I would but I've pretty much been fed-up with the bullshit in Star Wars back when Dave Fiolini's hat first came into view. Yes, some things have improved, but it's a bit too little, too late. Maybe the new trilogy will interest me, but the EU is a mess now more than ever, and while I'll sure as hell be interested in the games, I won't be playing them for the sake of it being Star Wars like I used to.

I'm done being a fanboy. It doesn't pay well and I sounded like those raving lunatics who couldn't stand the idea of an XCOM first person game (even though it was actually closer to the original XCOM in the game design than Enemy Unknown) whenever canon gets brought up.

I doubt EA is going to revive the X-Wing/TIE Fighter franchise, I definitely see Battlefront 3 (and 4, 5, 6, etc) getting a look at.

But yeah, not really excited. I'm also completely exhausted when it comes to being mad about this series gong in a bad direction, so I honestly can't work myself up to being angry.

Could they possibly have picked a worse company than E fucking A?

I suppose my hope that Obsidian will make KOTOR III are out the window, then.

EA have been making poor decision after poor decision, I sure as hell don't trust them with Star Wars.

I don't see why people keep complaining about how Star Wars is being ruined time and again (though I sense a bias in the Force because it's EA this time around) when the last good Star Wars game had been released in 2005. Either way, it's not like we'll lose much if that games turns out to be bad.

Last time I bought from EA (being the publisher) was Battlefield 3. It was a good enough game, fun with friends, worth the price. Then came Premium. Fine, bought into it because still, fun with friends. Then "Premium Editon" came out with the same price tag as the original release. Obviously everyone who had premium from before basically raged, but it was understandable. It was sort of like the "GOTY" edition of Battlefield 3. Fine, no big deal. At least the game was good. That being said, I don't necessarily congratulate EA for it, but DICE instead. They had enough time and resources to make a good enough game. Battlefront 3 is right up DICE's alley. If they dont get completely shoved down the throat with EA's stupid-ass timelines and horrible handlings, they can release a good game. But, on the other hand, this is EA. Killer of franchises and developers, and owner of the most God forsaken PR department that I've ever seen. I don't know how I feel about this. There is still some hope and potential, because we don't know what's going on in those buildings. Gotta wait for trailers and some gameplay. One thing's for sure though, I am not getting Battlefield 4. It looked like someone literally Ctrl + C'd the plans for Battlefield 3 and Ctrl + V'd it into Battlefield 4's. I wonder if Battlefield 5 is planned for 2014/2015 after EA releases "Super premium limited editions" of Battlefield 4. So to me, I added Battlefield to Need for Speed, Crysis, and Sim City, Dragon Age, Mass Effect and C&C as the list of franchises that just dropped downhill and basically died under EA. Long list isn't it? Not much hope for Star Wars if I go by EA's track record, but I have some faith in the developers. Still, it's not hard to imagine scenarios while a franchise is under EA... The microtransactions.. Oh God the microtransactions.. *weeps*..

Hey, at least it's not Gearbox.. Right?.. Right? Guys?

Reyalsfeihc:
Wow, glad to see no one is throwing about any knee-jerk reactions here. Yes, EA has pulled some stupid s*** in the past couple of years, but let's think about the studios that they're handing the franchise off to, and what games will be handled by them.

We have DICE, which is the obvious contender to develop Battlefront 3. As someone who absolutely loved the early BF games, and Battlefield 3, I'm not too concerned about them getting their hands on the Battlefront IP. We're not going to see a super gritty, color drained Battlefront game, as Battlefield is that way simply because it's stylized, and that's the direction they're taking it in. There's a lot to learn from the style and color pallets of Battlefront 1 & 2, and I'm sure that DICE will realize this when/if they begin development. Also, they would be the most likely of the three studios to develop sequels to Republic Commando.

Visceral could easily also pick up Republic Commando, but I really see them picking up StarWars 1313 where it left off. The seedy underbelly vibe of the game fits with the darker themes of the Dead Space franchise, and their experience with 3rd Person shooter mechanics is the strongest of the three teams. What new games would come out of Visceral, I'm not sure. There are a lot of space combat games that are desperately crying out for sequels, but whether they would be picked up by Visceral who, as a studio is still in its infancy and not locked into a specific genre of video games, or by DICE who will have to have some experience under their belt with space combat to make a true sequel to BF2, is uncertain.

Bioware is arguably the most confusing of the three in terms of where their projects will take them. We'll probably see some KoToR-esque sequels to past franchises out of them, alongside continued development of The Old Republic until they run that into the ground. I'm unsure what new IP's will come out of their studios, as all I've ever known them for is Action-RPG's, but they definitely have the talent (at least outside of the writing department), to develop various types of titles.

All in all, we're talking about three well received (for the most part) studios with a bit of a troubled past in some regard, but all more than willing to handle new and old IP's within the Star Wars universe.

TL;DR: Let's put those torches and pitchforks on layaway until we see some actual product.

This, so much this. If anyone can do a great Battlefront game, it's DICE. The only thing that really does worry me is how DRM will be handled.

EDIT: Whoops misquoted someone. And I forgot who I was responding to. Oh well!

I wouldn't call BF3 "dumbed down." People always rant about the lack of commander mode and voice comms. I agree with them on the voice comms, but I never saw any real benefit to having a commander beyond the experimental novelty that it was. In exchange for those two missing features we got vastly improved gunplay, much tighter controls and destructible environments (albeit to a limited degree when compared to BFBC2).

>.>

Battlefront and whatnot. No problem for me here. Only issue is origin, which does not work on campus.

Chrono212:
"May the force be with you"
Force, in this case, being DRM, cease and desist orders, gagging clauses, review embargos and various other things that keep lawyers in business.

"You're all clear, kid! Now let's blow this thing and go home!"
This is what will need to be said after every launch of a new EA/Disney/Star Wars game.

"Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
This will be entirely dependant on EA's outsourcing policies.

"It's a trap!"
Which is just self explanatory.

"I got a bad feeling about this." Captcha: I want control J.P.: EA with Disney. I feel dirty. Not to mention bad for Bioware.

Well there goes my hope for Battlefront 3 being decent, knowing EA they will turn it into Battle Field 3 with a Star Wars skin or a CoD clone in order to capitalize on the modern military shooter craze instead of trying to please the fans. Fuck this noise.

Well, I'm sure my fellow escapists are rational human beings who won't have the usual knee-jerk reactions of the interne-

Oh. They did.

Nobody actually going to wait and see what will be on offer before outright dismissing it?

I don't think any of us are worried if Dice or Visceral can make a good Star Wars game, we are worried how EA is going to screw everything up, because THEY DO, EA screws everything up. They cant help it, they want a CoD killer (previously a WoW killer, but I think they learned that lesson... maybe,) they want a CoD killer so bad they tunnel vision everything into accomplishing this.

also, the exclusivity is the major problem here.

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