Ubisoft Says Gamers Are "Starving" for Next-Gen

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New console makes me go meh. I mean I am unsure if it will be worth if game wise as I seem to have fallen out of the target market. The indie studios are giving me more games that AAA and this disturbs me. More power is a fun thing but currently the most I can see myself buying is a pre-owned ps3 for cheap.

Nah...I'm good. I filled up at the Steam and GoG buffet.

Well i'd hazard a guess that Ubisoft is pretty much about as wrong as a guy trying to push his dick into an electrical socket because someone told him it would be a 'Buzz'.

And quite frankly when i hear the words "social connectivity" applied to gaming i just start twitching and projectile vomiting. You know what i am hungry for Ubisoft? Games that dont try to be a social experience, games that dont try to monetize everything i do, games that in fact dont try to be anything except fucking games!

New games is all I need. I don't particularly see the pressing need for MOAR HD TEXTURZ and super-realistic gewgaws or for the unavoidable crop of new gimmicky control or gameplay systems that supposed visionaries are going to throw our way, touting it as "revolutionary".

I'm sending a cautious leer in David Cage and Peter Molyneux's direction...

Nope. Not starving at all. In fact, I'm about ready to hang up my hat on consoles. They aren't going anywhere worth the money.

I sure as hell aren't. I cant afford to shell out Ģ300 on a new console. I'd rather stick with the old ones for a while longer.

There's a couple things that always come up in these discussions that I disagree with:

1. "Graphics are good enough now. Graphics don't matter, I don't need MOAR TEXTURES". Gameplay trumps graphics, sure. You can't make a bad game good by using more triangles. But better graphics make a game better. I can't understand how someone could claim that the console version of Skyrim is just as good as the PC version, unless you just really, really love the lore only or something.

Artists work really hard creating interesting HD textures that then get compressed down to a blur. Better graphics increases the possiblities for creativity. Would anyone seroiusly argue that Film hasn't benefited from color and better film techniques? Sure, there are amazing black and white movies. But there are also many, many amazing modern films that simply could not have been created without these new techniques. Is anyone clamoring for a return to SDTV? The idea is just crazy.
That's basically what you get with the compressed textures on a current console though.

2. Power just means better graphics. Sure, a new console generation will mean better graphics, but that's not all that more powerful processors can deliver. Games like Left 4 Dead were simply impossible to make before. The power wasn't there to model that many individual units. Games like Total War benefit from the ability to process larger and larger numbers of actors on the screen. Better AI can be developed with more power, or similar AI but running on more actors. Would anyone really argue that having accurate physics didn't change how games were created? That's certainly opened up new possiblities for games. There are kinds of things that could better be represented in games through better simulation. This discussion always involved gameplay over graphics, but more power means you can also have more gameplay since things that couldn't be processed before can now. Wonder why Minecraft* didn't exist 20 years ago? Because it would have been impossible to make.

However, the only problem here is that the new consoles probably aren't pushing things forward enough. I'll be really glad when they are out and developers start using them. That'll make it ok for the PC games to push forward that much more. But, it really doesn't look like the new consoles will have the power to really make huge changes. But, anything's better than languishing with the old consoles.

Oh, BTW, I've been gaming since the Atari and I'll often play older games.

* Better graphics doesn't mean more realistic, and some games use a particular aesthetic that couldn't be improves with better graphics like Minecraft. However, even something like Minecraft is better with more power. You can see farther and you can add more stuff to the game.

canadamus_prime:
I'm not hungry for the next generation, in fact I've spend most of this one pinning for the days of the last one. Mostly because that was the last time it seemed that Publishers, Developers and the Industry in general had a soul. Apparently I'm in the minority though so that doesn't seem to be worth much.

I feel the same way. I miss the time when devs/publishers at least pretended to care about their customers. Now they just do whatever they want, and then when people complain, they say "Shut the hell up. You don't matter, because there's a whole herd of idiots who will buy our shitty games/products anyway."
I miss people having some self-respect :(

I'm sure not "starving" for the next gen. In fact, I've been pretty apathetic towards all the announcements. I'm not feeling that excitement that I had when the PS3 was coming out. Nothing has really stood out to catch my interest.

I'm not. My 3DS, PS3, Xbox360, PSP, and my PS2 are still keeping me well fed, thank you. The food is quite good.

Yup! I just love to pay a few hundred dollars to buy a piece of marketing technology that will have none-to-few good games on it for a while, isn't backwards compatible, and costs more to develop on, thus making game prices go up, less chances to be taken by devs, and causing more devs to go out of business! Can't wait!

I havenīt cared for any coming releases in about a year (with the exception of Armikrog) so i canīt say iīm that excited about a new generation, actually iīm not even sure if i care enough to invest any money in a new system. Iīm content with what i got as there are still plenty of games i need to try that doesnīt require me to buy an expensive new machine.

It depends on what they're going to do with the power.
I was looking forward to the current gen when it started. One of the things I was looking forward to most was Burnout crash junctions with more cars and bigger explosions. Then Burnout Paradise came out and it didn't even have crash junctions.
I'm currently digging (still, I got it when it came out) Borderlands 2 and I would love for Borderlands 3 to have even more enemies running at me for me to shred with my orange guns without my system slowing down to a crawl.

I think im gonna set this one out for a year or two. If they are still developing great titles on 360/PS3, then i am content to stick with current gen. Not like developers are going to ignore current gen for atleast another year. To many consumers for games on current gen. Atleast after a year all the good next gen games will start being released and there will be a fun back catalogue to delve into. That is, if i bother getting a next gen console....I think every new gen seems less over whelming than the last. Roll on E3, i want to see what they have to offer.

Yeah I'm starving. For a nice hot chicken parm sandwich. Yeah, I can really go for that right now.

Ohhh you mean next gen gaming? Um.. nope. Still have a back log last I checked. Ohhh I want to SHARE my gaming experiences via social media integrated into a console you say? Umm. no I don't. Really. I don't give a rat's ass. You know what? Why don't you guys stop telling us what we want and actually start giving us what we want. Like I dunno, maybe good games.

Consumerism fail.

GonzoGamer:
It depends on what they're going to do with the power.
I was looking forward to the current gen when it started. One of the things I was looking forward to most was Burnout crash junctions with more cars and bigger explosions. Then Burnout Paradise came out and it didn't even have crash junctions.

Forgot about the crash junctions, had lots of fun with loads. Maybe they could make that as a digital download game they could make for a sell for cheap on xboxlive/psn? Best thing i loved about it was my baby brother could play it and do really well. :-)

Yes, I'm starving. Starving for more quality games and more quality experiences. I'm not starving for a next console generation which will, in turn, leave me starving for money after I spend all of it on a meager hardware update which enables me to play more of the same old crap and keep spending more money on subscriptions, DLC and other online components which will, in turn, guess what!?

And since when does self-expression mean sharing dozens of screenshots and videos on Facebook or whatever the fanciful new features of the mod-closed, creativity-suppressing plastic boxes are?

no ubisoft, I'm not 'starving' for the next generation, none of you have made much of anything worth while with THIS generation i've little to no hope the next will be anything other then more of the same.

wrong, gamers just want non scumbag business practices from publishers...

nope, not at all, infact it seems to me there killing the current get off to quickly, these so much untapped potential so far.

but who am i to get in the way of the next hardware grab.

Sigh, I'd rather not have a new generation of consoles, to be honest it only really seems like that developers are getting used to pulling out of the most the machines we have now, plus its just more money I'd need to spend that I don't have.

Uhh, Not so much starving for next gen, more starving for new or interesting games, and developers are now making games for the next gen consoles so nothing big is coming out until then. Though I will say this generation is actually starting to show its age.

JokerboyJordan:

But then the glorious PC gaming master race are like "No! The filthy consoles are holding us back!", and therefore they want shinier graphics and everything to be more expensive, just so they can justify their OTT gaming rigs.

The hilarious thing is that all of the self-proclaimed 'PC gamers' in this thread are saying the opposite. They don't seem to realize that with new console hardware, the standard of what a game can do would likely skyrocket considering how horrifically outdated the PS3 and Xbox 360 are in hardware terms.

Games are still primarily made for consoles. Better consoles with architecture closer to that of a PC means better PC ports and a lot more that developers would be able to do in the base game. No more shitty optimization in games that look like they were made in 2006 and terrible implementation of DirectX 11, (hopefully) no more corridor games that are trying to compensate for how little RAM and GPU power they can utilize, no more textures that look worse than some N64 games because they're trying to be hyper-realistic but have to compress everything so it can actually run at a semi-playable framerate without making the 512 MB of RAM explode.

Well, obviously we would still get those from incompetent developers, small companies, or Call of Duty, but it wouldn't be the average anymore.

I probably won't get a PS4 until a few years down the line, but I'm planning on upgrading the old PC when I have the money and I'm certainly ready for them to bring on the new tide. Just looking at what some developers can do with the hardware they've already got, I'm excited to see what they can do when they're not limited by stuff that was originally created practically a decade ago.

"There is a recession on, people have no money, people can barely afford games from second hand stores, lets release some more machinery for Ģ400 and make the old machinery defunct." Seems to be the policy of the gaming corporations these days

PoolCleaningRobot:
I know I'm ready for new consoles are the are a lot people out there who don't over think the video game industry are ready for new consoles. A lot of users of this website are sticks in the mud waiting for an industry crash that probaly won't happen

I think Lord British said it best on a podcast I heard a little while ago.

He basically said that games go in a cycle, beginning at a new console generation. The beginning of the generation brings us the same old tired ideas in a shiny coat of paint.

Personally I think Ubisoft want the new generation mainly for this reason.

Out of all people (consumers included), I think this guy has the hardest boner for next gen.

I'm just 'meh'.

I'll buy PS4 when time is right.

I'm "starving" for good games. I don't care what they come out for. This gen, next gen, last gen...Make them good and I will buy them.

SonOfVoorhees:

GonzoGamer:
It depends on what they're going to do with the power.
I was looking forward to the current gen when it started. One of the things I was looking forward to most was Burnout crash junctions with more cars and bigger explosions. Then Burnout Paradise came out and it didn't even have crash junctions.

Forgot about the crash junctions, had lots of fun with loads. Maybe they could make that as a digital download game they could make for a sell for cheap on xboxlive/psn? Best thing i loved about it was my baby brother could play it and do really well. :-)

And they actually did that but it ended up being really crappy: overhead, cartoony, something you would expect to play for free on your phone. I think you can download a demo for it.

What exactly am I meant to be starving for? Slightly improved graphics and some social features I'd really rather not have?

I've been following this shit since the SNES release, and I have to say that this is the most apathetic I have ever seen a group of gamers about a new generation. It's especially strange, considering that this one has gone on too long. That extra power won't just boost graphics guys, we're at a point of diminishing returns there. The power will give us larger levels, more complicated AI, more NPCs/objects on screen at once, farther draw distance, more sophisticated battle/fighting systems, etc.

Though if I were a gambling man, I'd say the apathy is really the result of gamers being pushed to the breaking point by publisher nonsense. We have more "advocates" like Jim Sterling than ever before, and we've seen more shady business practices (and awareness of those practices) than ever before. I think people are more scared of what new tools we're meant to bend over for than apathetic about the increase in power and new games.

CardinalPiggles:

PoolCleaningRobot:
I know I'm ready for new consoles are the are a lot people out there who don't over think the video game industry are ready for new consoles. A lot of users of this website are sticks in the mud waiting for an industry crash that probaly won't happen

I think Lord British said it best on a podcast I heard a little while ago.

He basically said that games go in a cycle, beginning at a new console generation. The beginning of the generation brings us the same old tired ideas in a shiny coat of paint.

Personally I think Ubisoft want the new generation mainly for this reason.

I'm inclined to agree with that actually. The paint is starting to chip off on this generation of games and I want it to feel fresh again. I'm a simple man with simple wants I guess

PoolCleaningRobot:

CardinalPiggles:

PoolCleaningRobot:
I know I'm ready for new consoles are the are a lot people out there who don't over think the video game industry are ready for new consoles. A lot of users of this website are sticks in the mud waiting for an industry crash that probaly won't happen

I think Lord British said it best on a podcast I heard a little while ago.

He basically said that games go in a cycle, beginning at a new console generation. The beginning of the generation brings us the same old tired ideas in a shiny coat of paint.

Personally I think Ubisoft want the new generation mainly for this reason.

I'm inclined to agree with that actually. The paint is starting to chip off on this generation of games and I want it to feel fresh again. I'm a simple man with simple wants I guess

Ignorance is bliss?

I love ignorance.

Gamers are hungry for good games.

Developers are hungry for any way possible to raise the price on games.

DrunkOnEstus:
I've been following this shit since the SNES release, and I have to say that this is the most apathetic I have ever seen a group of gamers about a new generation. It's especially strange, considering that this one has gone on too long. That extra power won't just boost graphics guys, we're at a point of diminishing returns there. The power will give us larger levels, more complicated AI, more NPCs/objects on screen at once, farther draw distance, more sophisticated battle/fighting systems, etc.

Though if I were a gambling man, I'd say the apathy is really the result of gamers being pushed to the breaking point by publisher nonsense. We have more "advocates" like Jim Sterling than ever before, and we've seen more shady business practices (and awareness of those practices) than ever before. I think people are more scared of what new tools we're meant to bend over for than apathetic about the increase in power and new games.

I read that people judge others based on how "cold" and how "warm" you are. People want to appear cold so they'll be respected and appear intelligent. As such, we associate people who are warm and nice with people who are stupid

This apathy is just a result of people thinking they'll appear smarter and competent if they act jaded and cynical and anyone who's happy must be an idiot. That's my theory anyway

CardinalPiggles:

PoolCleaningRobot:

CardinalPiggles:

I think Lord British said it best on a podcast I heard a little while ago.

He basically said that games go in a cycle, beginning at a new console generation. The beginning of the generation brings us the same old tired ideas in a shiny coat of paint.

Personally I think Ubisoft want the new generation mainly for this reason.

I'm inclined to agree with that actually. The paint is starting to chip off on this generation of games and I want it to feel fresh again. I'm a simple man with simple wants I guess

Ignorance is bliss?

I love ignorance.

I believe it was Ralph Wiggim who said "fun toys are fun" and who can argue with that?

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