Ubisoft Says Gamers Are "Starving" for Next-Gen

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I'm amazed at how contrarian people are determined to be.

"We're at the tail end of what's already the longest console generation by a long shot. The technology in these consoles is simply very, very outdated. We could potentially create much better games on new consoles, and that would also unchain PC games from being shackled to such old limits. It could also potentially put some fresh energy into the industry, as it would create a fresh burst of competition."

HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT SEVEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME FOR A CONSOLE GENERATION?!

Also, the Captcha asked me "what is your quest". I answered with "to seek the holy grail", and it told me I was wrong. :(

PoolCleaningRobot:
I read that people judge others based on how "cold" and how "warm" you are. People want to appear cold so they'll be respected and appear intelligent. As such, we associate people who are warm and nice with people who are stupid

This apathy is just a result of people thinking they'll appear smarter and competent if they act jaded and cynical and anyone who's happy must be an idiot. That's my theory anyway

You've got a valid point there, and I'm sure it applies to at least some of the detractors. Also, this site more than others suffers from "Yahtzee Mindset" (due to his presence here). Basically, if you assume upcoming things will be shit, then you'll be pleasantly surprised if in fact it isn't. Inversely, assuming that the new thing is good can only serve to disappoint you if in fact it is shit. Add equal parts desire to appear "edgy" and funny as a result of that edginess, bake at 350, and watch absolutely nothing happen because nobody here really knows each other and nothing was accomplished (accidental edginess from myself, there).

I really don't care about the next generation except as a means of getting more games, because no-one's going to be developing for current gen. I am pretty much happy with the PS3. It's the games people are wanting, and I'm not saying that nothing decent has come out, only that it's been winding down a bit for a while in anticipation of next gen.

What I find funny though is that publishers like Ubisoft do things that gamers find abhorrent, and then suggest that people would love more opportunities to throw money at them. The PS4 isn't going to fix linearity in Assassin's Creed and it's not going to make uPlay more popular either.

Oh and also, fuck social media. And especially pertaining to that, fuck expecting higher revenue out of it. Firstly, I want social media to be completely optional, because I don't want to use it. I will make a fake Facebook account to upload screenshots or something if I must, but I do not want ANY social bullshit occurring. But secondly, how do they expect to make money out of social features? The whole thing makes me apprehensive.

From what i see from the enxt gen... i will skip it, i'm sure not hungry for it

I'm quite happy with my Xbox 360. I can't say I'm hungry for the next generation at all. If anything I'd be more inclined to buy a PS3.

Good to know my "ignore Ubisoft says and does" strategy is set to continue.

He was mistaken. Clearly we are starving for nougat caramels.

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Guillemot sounds like a walking, talking marketing bible blurb.

I would like for a system to not be so anaemic and pigeon chested that everything has to come in the shape of a well-laid out tunnel or revolving around frequent and seemingly endless elevator rides from hell.

Apart from that - suck it, Guillemot. That's what I really want.

Is it just me or are the only ones pushing for the next generation of consoles the publishers? Most normal people couldn't give a crap about it (if the threads here are to be believed to be representative).

I'm not starving to any next gen.

What I'm starving for are not half arsed ports and excuses because the hardware of the current gen consoles are 7-8 years old and they can't update the game for PC standards.

So, in a strange way, I am looking forward for those new consoles to come out so we PC gamers can get proper games made, because the structure of the new consoles are pretty much made from PC hardware.

"More players being connected will lead to a higher average revenue per user."

And just how is that supposed to work? Sounds like Ubisoft have been contracting market research from the Underpants Gnomes.

*note I only read the OP for this one so far*
No Ubisoft I couldn't care less for your next gen, and I wonder what you were smoking to come to that conclusion, cause I want some.

silverbullet1989:
ive been ready for it for the last 3-4 years as a pc player -_-
so sick of games pushed out to work on 8 year old hardware then ported to the pc... we've been able to do so much more for years but hardly any developer will take advantage of that

That's sadly the only reason i want a new console generation too. I couldn't care less about the consoles themselves and i probably won't buy any of them, but for god's sake if i have to play lousy console-ports i want them up to date.

"We live in a world of self-expression," he says. "Customization, or curating, is a huge growth area across all services and that holds true for games. People want to play in their own way, they want to define their own experience and they want to share the way they're playing."

This to me feels like a strange thing for him to say when Ubisoft doesn't really make many games that offer this freedom of expression... as a matter of fact, the locked up nature of consoles themselves are very limiting. I think this guy doesn't really understand what he is talking about. Ubisoft is a publisher that milks properties, which is pretty much the antithesis of this self expression he is talking about. Also, I don't think players want to share it that bad, to be honest. The last thing we need is all MP or some sort of social network interaction in all of our games. I think this guy should stick to what he knows, which is milking Assassin's Creed and being overall oblivious to the state of games.

Speak for yourself there Ubisoft.

I'm not really in any hurry for a new console.

PoolCleaningRobot:
I read that people judge others based on how "cold" and how "warm" you are. People want to appear cold so they'll be respected and appear intelligent. As such, we associate people who are warm and nice with people who are stupid

This apathy is just a result of people thinking they'll appear smarter and competent if they act jaded and cynical and anyone who's happy must be an idiot. That's my theory anyway

Well, you have the idea right. People who are brooding or overall negative appear to be more intelligent, and to some degree that can be partially right. People who are unhappy and negative pay more attention to details and take less at face value. This would constitute your cold value. Happier people take more at face value and a lot of people regard their happiness as a result of their overall ignorance to life, the world, and the universe. But there are significant advantages regarding intelligence when it comes to being happy. Mostly the ability to bounce back from bad things or actually learn at a faster pace than an unhappy person.

I don't know if apathy is the result of them wanting to appear smarter, but people who look at something and regard it as small or insignificant are certainly trying to be that way. I often get in debates with a good friend of mine in regards to this. He thinks biology doesn't matter because of the potential astronomical events that can happen to us such as an asteroid strike or some other extraterrestrial event that could occur. I love biology, I eat that shit up, and to me the probability of asteroids, black holes, or any of the like pales into insignificance compared to biology. As all humans experience bias (uncontrollably), a part of me thinks he is apathetic to biology because of the impact the things he loves to study can have. I'm partially apathetic to things like astrophysics because the sudden biological change that results in fish due to human fishing (specifically the change in their mating cycles) because I think it's awesome to see evolution before my eyes like that.

The gaming community is starving for new games and nothing more. We want both new IPs and continuations of pre-existing ones. We want better graphics, game mechanics, and sound quality as well as retro throw backs. I don't think that we could care less about the console that we play them on, we just want to play them.

In which another company claims to be psychic in lieu of something like, you know, RESEARCH. Unbelievable... It's like they all eat lunch together or something.

As a pc gamer all I've got is die Xbox die, holding graphics back for a long time now, that being said I doubt the next gen consoles will get that many sales, just seems like this latest push has everyone leaving consoles for pcs as it seems to have all the most hated aspects of publishing blown up to 10000x size.

Shamanic Rhythm:
"More players being connected will lead to a higher average revenue per user."

And just how is that supposed to work? Sounds like Ubisoft have been contracting market research from the Underpants Gnomes.

So..you don't have friends who play games?

One friend gets a game, and his bud goes "Shit I can buy that game then we can play it co-op". One of them gets DLC and the other goes "Oh shit is it fun? I'll get it too then".

I know people who have bought games they know are terrible (ie Army of 2 Devils Cartel) because of the potential of lulz-worthy mischief with the co-op. I personally have gotten games because all my friends are playing it together and, shit, I don't want to be a debbie fucking downer. Sitting on my own while they all have fun without me.

Sure people tell themselves how they're "Independent" or who "Don't bow down to peer pressure" and that they wouldn't be affected by this kind of thing. But these people tend to wear fedoras and don't bow down to peer pressure because they're not under any.

Most people, on the other hand, like to game with friends - And the more visible that gameplaying is, the more likely your friends are going to want to jump on board.

The Escapist community is so edgy.

Learn that Next Gen means more than just "graphics" then get back to me. Though I agree with the general assessment that "current gen" has been lacking a soul -- however the last 1-2 years have seen a resurgence in creative and groundbreaking games.

Mr. Omega:
I was kinda. Then I got a WiiU. I'm a little starved for content on it, but between the various indie games coming out for it and Nintendo's own titles coming out by the fall, I think the current gen will do more than enough to hold me over. Got enough of a backlog to get through.

Same here. Although, I really have no right to complain about not having enough games. I still haven't finished the three I got on it. Nintendo Land (Trying to get all Badges/Items/Collectibles, takes a while), Zombi U (just haven't played it much), and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (HOLY FUCKING SHIT SO MANY QUESTS WHAT THE HELL, BOTH ONLINE AND OFFLINE NOT TO MENTION FARM IMPROVEMENTS, TOO MUCH CONTENT HOLY CRAP TOO MUCH TO COMPLETE).

Dear Ubisoft,

Telling us over and over what you would like us to believe does not automatically make us believe it.

Regards

Yeah, I'm just going to stick with PC thanks. Current generation didn't so much make me hungry as it did make me violently sick.

I'm not exactly starving but I would love to see what type of next gen games we will be having.

That and I couldn't give any shits abouts PC's having "teh better graphics and games" since they can live in their little tiny world for all I care because I learned to get along with all 3 other platforms instead of being an elitist asshat.

Baresark:

PoolCleaningRobot:
I read that people judge others based on how "cold" and how "warm" you are. People want to appear cold so they'll be respected and appear intelligent. As such, we associate people who are warm and nice with people who are stupid

This apathy is just a result of people thinking they'll appear smarter and competent if they act jaded and cynical and anyone who's happy must be an idiot. That's my theory anyway

Well, you have the idea right. People who are brooding or overall negative appear to be more intelligent, and to some degree that can be partially right. People who are unhappy and negative pay more attention to details and take less at face value. This would constitute your cold value. Happier people take more at face value and a lot of people regard their happiness as a result of their overall ignorance to life, the world, and the universe. But there are significant advantages regarding intelligence when it comes to being happy. Mostly the ability to bounce back from bad things or actually learn at a faster pace than an unhappy person.

Well the problem with the assumption is that it isn't always true and its wrong more often than not. For example, EA just got rid of online passes but everyone keeps talking about what they'll replace it with. EA's bad business practices earned them the title of worst business last year and they've been losing money. Its more logical to assume that EA is getting rid of it's shittier practices because it's not earning them more customers. But that isn't cynical so everyone keeps talking about how they're mustache twirling evil villains.

I don't know if apathy is the result of them wanting to appear smarter, but people who look at something and regard it as small or insignificant are certainly trying to be that way. I often get in debates with a good friend of mine in regards to this. He thinks biology doesn't matter because of the potential astronomical events that can happen to us such as an asteroid strike or some other extraterrestrial event that could occur. I love biology, I eat that shit up, and to me the probability of asteroids, black holes, or any of the like pales into insignificance compared to biology. As all humans experience bias (uncontrollably), a part of me thinks he is apathetic to biology because of the impact the things he loves to study can have. I'm partially apathetic to things like astrophysics because the sudden biological change that results in fish due to human fishing (specifically the change in their mating cycles) because I think it's awesome to see evolution before my eyes like that.

As a chemistry major, I like to give my psych major friend shit for psychology not being "real" science. But belittling his studies don't make mine any more special. In reality, all studies are important because they compliment each other. As this related to vidya gamz, people just want act like their pallet is too far refined to care silly graphics and new consoles *insert farting noise here*

immovablemover:

Shamanic Rhythm:
"More players being connected will lead to a higher average revenue per user."

And just how is that supposed to work? Sounds like Ubisoft have been contracting market research from the Underpants Gnomes.

So..you don't have friends who play games?

One friend gets a game, and his bud goes "Shit I can buy that game then we can play it co-op". One of them gets DLC and the other goes "Oh shit is it fun? I'll get it too then".

I know people who have bought games they know are terrible (ie Army of 2 Devils Cartel) because of the potential of lulz-worthy mischief with the co-op. I personally have gotten games because all my friends are playing it together and, shit, I don't want to be a debbie fucking downer. Sitting on my own while they all have fun without me.

Sure people tell themselves how they're "Independent" or who "Don't bow down to peer pressure" and that they wouldn't be affected by this kind of thing. But these people tend to wear fedoras and don't bow down to peer pressure because they're not under any.

Most people, on the other hand, like to game with friends - And the more visible that gameplaying is, the more likely your friends are going to want to jump on board.

What you are saying makes sense. But that is because you are talking about co-op, whereas Ubisoft are talking about a 'share button'. I'm entirely unconvinced that spamming someone's feed is likely to encourage them to drop money on a game.

Also, fedoras are awesome, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise ;)

I'm hungry for a day where the machines are so capable that a game can't survive on only having the most cutting edge graphics and has to pass muster on the quality of the story. This is a step in that direction.

I am eager to see what devs can do with more juice.

That being said, the current gen is really getting polished. But look at games like Skyrim. You may not know this but Skyrim scraped the bottom of the ps3's barrel when it hit the asset category issue. We need the next generation for games like that. This is the reason the ps3 didn't get DLC until another fixed version of the vanilla game could be pushed out along with them.

TK421:

canadamus_prime:
I'm not hungry for the next generation, in fact I've spend most of this one pinning for the days of the last one. Mostly because that was the last time it seemed that Publishers, Developers and the Industry in general had a soul. Apparently I'm in the minority though so that doesn't seem to be worth much.

I feel the same way. I miss the time when devs/publishers at least pretended to care about their customers. Now they just do whatever they want, and then when people complain, they say "Shut the hell up. You don't matter, because there's a whole herd of idiots who will buy our shitty games/products anyway."
I miss people having some self-respect :(

I know. I mean maybe I was a bit naive, but it seemed to me that the Publishers/Developers were all about providing a good gaming experience for the gaming community not just about making money (I know making money is always a big factor, but you know what I mean). I mean hell, it was the generation that saw longtime rivals Nintendo and Sega bury the hatchet and thus Sonic games appeared on the GameCube and GBA. Now maybe I'm making a bigger thing of that than it actually was, after all Sega had given up on making consoles and was thus licensing their games and IPs to whomever would pay for the license, but it still seemed like a big deal to me.

PoolCleaningRobot:

Well the problem with the assumption is that it isn't always true and its wrong more often than not. For example, EA just got rid of online passes but everyone keeps talking about what they'll replace it with. EA's bad business practices earned them the title of worst business last year and they've been losing money. Its more logical to assume that EA is getting rid of it's shittier practices because it's not earning them more customers. But that isn't cynical so everyone keeps talking about how they're mustache twirling evil villains.

I know what you mean. It's utterly ridiculous that maybe, just maybe, EA has learned from it's previous year or two and their downturn in overall revenue. EA was never to going listen to gamers until it affected their sales. Now their sales are affected, and they seem to be learning. Is there a likelihood that they are going to try and find ways to increase revenue? There sure is. But there is also the chance that they won't do it in such a way that it pisses gamers off.

As a chemistry major, I like to give my psych major friend shit for psychology not being "real" science. But belittling his studies don't make mine any more special. In reality, all studies are important because they compliment each other. As this related to vidya gamz, people just want act like their pallet is too far refined to care silly graphics and new consoles *insert farting noise here*

I was actually just reading a paper on Neuroplasticity and Psychological Illness. It brings up several points that a lot of people take for granted. My favorite being that psychological illness being caused by a "chemical imbalance" is still completely hypothetical. And it will remain thus until such time as psychologists/psychiatrists start actually testing chemical levels and have some sort of guide as to what is normal. But that physical basis is the whole reason the field of psychiatry even exists, which is to prescribe pharmaceutical treatments for things they don't even know the cause for. It's all pretty amusing. You can always prod your friend by pointing out that his diagnosis of illness is based off of behaviors that are outlined in a book with little beyond that. Nothing makes it seem like pseudo science more pointing out that don't even know what they are fighting.

But, I digress. I too have a friend who is a psych major and I prod him about the same thing. Really, science is observation of nature of all kinds. Psych majors have only happened to choose something that is usually far more complex than molecular sciences, at least in terms of understanding. All sciences are really integrated into one big idea of understanding the universe, both the macro and micro. But as humans with a bias, it's impossible not to favor the thing you study or the thing that interests you.

...bah, I'm completely off topic.

PoolCleaningRobot:
I know I'm ready for new consoles are the are a lot people out there who don't over think the video game industry are ready for new consoles. A lot of users of this website are sticks in the mud waiting for an industry crash that probaly won't happen

Well the old adage that the content will remain silent while the peeved will make a commotion is also relevant, to this sort of news.

Vivi22:
Hey, Ubisoft already makes up whatever bull they want to justify everything they do so why stop now?

Because Ubisoft are making the Xbox720/Playstation 4.

I wouldn't say I am in demand for the next gen consoles, but it would be nice to see an upgrade in video games for my console. I don't like spending lots of money continually upgrading a computer every year or so, and I don't enjoy playing games on a computer screen. So the next generation is actually a good sign for me, I'm interested in what they're going to bring out. New generation, clean slate.

No we are not. Nobody cares to pay another 800 on an overpriced, fragile, overrated computer that will just be another 150 dollar console after about 5 years or so.

I made the mistake of buying a ps3 when the price was high because I thought I was paying for quality. They reduced the price not long after and after playing both 360 and ps3 it became obvious I just paid more than double for the same game console with a blu ray player and games freezing more.

Funny, I don't think a lot of people responding are the target audience. There are a lot of hardcore gamers on here. But the casual gamer that isn't constrained by cash, does like the latest toys. They don't drive 8 year old cars, don't watch 8 year old tvs, PCs get upgraded every 4 years or so. There is a market, and I dare say a big market for the new consule. The current teens buying an xbox are probably fine, but the market is somewhat saturated, where as you could grab millions of new hardware clients pretty quickly. Thing mobile phones, does the newest Android or IPhone do much more than LAST YEARS?

bug_of_war:

Vivi22:
Hey, Ubisoft already makes up whatever bull they want to justify everything they do so why stop now?

Because Ubisoft are making the Xbox720/Playstation 4.

Would you have been less pedantic if i had specified everything they SAY and do? Because despite a small flub in the wording my meaning was pretty damn clear.

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