Joss Whedon Explains New Avengers 2 Cast Members

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Joss Whedon Explains New Avengers 2 Cast Members

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One's a hyper-fast elitist and the other's his gorgeous, nigh-omnipotent sister. Joss Whedon explains how Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch might fit into The Avengers 2.

In Marvel's comic book continuity, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are ... interesting characters. That was an ellipsis of hesitation, as I've no real idea how to describe a duo who has, over the past few decades, depowered the majority of mutant-kind, introduced a new generation of comic book fans to the concept of fraternal incest, and opted to side with their father, the oft-megalomaniacal Magneto, as often as they've played for the side of the angels. Plus Scarlet Witch got knocked up by a robot and had two kids that may or may not actually exist. Then she went crazy and rewrote reality.

Because comics.

Point being: When compared to the cast of heroes assembled for The Avengers, Pietro and Wanda aren't exactly sterling representatives of the battle against evil. According to director Joss Whedon, that kind of conflict is exactly why he's added Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch to the cast of Avengers 2.

"They're interesting to me because they sort of represent the part of the world that wouldn't necessarily agree with The Avengers," Whedon states in a recent IGN interview. "So they're not there to make things easier. I'm not putting any characters in the movie that will make things easier."

Conflict? Great. We're all about conflict. Especially when one of the characters creating said conflict has the power to do literally anything. If nothing else, that should justify some awesome CG effects.

Fortunately for Whedon's plans, the inclusion of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch in Avengers 2 should also appease long-time, hardcore comic book fans. The duo have a long history with The Avengers, and the Scarlet Witch is considered one of the group's core members in the comics. Of course, if this is going to be a trend, we fear which new heroes Whedon will want to introduce in Avengers 3. Wonder Man? Tigra? The Monica Rambeau Captain Marvel?

Have I ever mentioned how much cash I'd spend to see a proper Nextwave film adaptation? Millions, you guys. Millions.

Source: IGN

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I steadfastly refuse to take the bait. I will not Google Nextwave. Instead, I'll just swallow my geek pride and admit that I have no idea what that is.

I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Because they first showed up as characters in the Avengers comics they can be used outside of the x-men. But only as long as you do not mention mutants, Magneto or X-men.

Long live lawyers I guess

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

The characters themselves aren't owned by Fox.

Any inclusion of them would probably come with the caveat that

1: There is no mention that Magneto is their father

2: There is no mention of the the term 'mutants'

Essentially, they have to avoid the whole Xmen universe.

Tombsite:

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Because they first showed up as characters in the Avengers comics they can be used outside of the x-men. But only as long as you do not mention mutants, Magneto or X-men.

Long live lawyers I guess

Hahaha, our IP laws are just fucking absurd.

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

I'm still hoping that the Agents of Shield series is going to be there to facilitate all those characters that have movie rights tied up elsewhere. It'd be a great place to see some Whedony Marvel Xmen /Spiderman goodness.

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Back when they initially signed over the X-Men properties to FOX they specifically left out the characters Scarlet Which and Quicksilver in the event of an Avengers movie.

OT: Wonder how they will explain their origins give FOX's current ownership of X-Men movie rights.

Eh....never was a fan of Scarlet Witch, her powers were more annoying then anything else(she can be a total god in one comic and barely a generic beam shooter in another) boring personality wise, and I would rate her pretty low on the babe chart when compared to other Marvel super-heroines. The only thing interesting about her is her god-awful luck, and watching the other heroes clean up her mess.

Quicksilver on the other hand is a lot more fun, hero or villain he was always one of the characters I enjoyed reading about, so hopefully they get him right.

Overall there's better choices out there for Avengers 2, but I guess these aren't the worse.

ZZoMBiE13:
I steadfastly refuse to take the bait. I will not Google Nextwave. Instead, I'll just swallow my geek pride and admit that I have no idea what that is.

Do it!

It's one of the greatest comic book stories ever written, and is absolutely worth the time it'll take you to read through the 12-issue run.

Entitled:

Tombsite:

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Because they first showed up as characters in the Avengers comics they can be used outside of the x-men. But only as long as you do not mention mutants, Magneto or X-men.

Long live lawyers I guess

Hahaha, our IP laws are just fucking absurd.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Whedon poked fun of that in the film itself. He's sorta known for poking fun at his own work.

Captain A: So... what's you two's story? How'd you get your powers?
Scarlet Witch: From our father, of course.
Captain A: And... who's your father?
Scarlet Witch: Well, you see-
Fury: Stop! Rogers, I get you don't trust them, but there's some holes you just don't stick your head down. I vouch for them, leave it at that.

ZZoMBiE13:
I steadfastly refuse to take the bait. I will not Google Nextwave. Instead, I'll just swallow my geek pride and admit that I have no idea what that is.

At it's most basic? It's a Warren Ellis series that's a borderline parody of the Marvel Universe with lots of explosions (many of which are provided by a woman who's superpower is basically defined as "make stuff blow up" [and stealing your stuff]). It's actual canon status within the mainstream Marvel U is debatable because it wasn't intended to be part of 616, but where the fans would really like to believe that it is.

It's a...'quirky'...series to say the least. It's all rather absurd, really.

Scarlet Witch vs. The Infinity Gauntlet = Hell yeah!

Dammit Joss don't let Fox screw you over again!

vid87:
Scarlet Witch vs. The Infinity Gauntlet

That sounds like a porno.

I say Squirrel Girl for Avengers 3.

NEXT WAVE!

It's like Shakespeare
But with lots more punching
It's like Goethe
But with lots more crushing
Like Titanic
But the boat's still floating
No it's not!
The motherfucking boat is exploding!
NEXTWAVE!
NEXTWAVE!

Dirk Anger
Is one crazy mamma-jamma
He leads HATE
Sitting around in his pretty pink pajamas
HATE was formed
By the Beyond Coporation
Purposely
To bring about catastrophic devastation!

NEXTWAVE!
NEXTWAVE!

Do you want a haircut?
The Beyond Corporation's gonna help you out
Do you need a toothbrush?
The Beyond Corporation's got an extra one
Do you have a step-son?
The Beyond Corporation's gonna rub him out
Do you see a monster?
Or a pirate?
Electric emu?
A giant sky-rat?
A midget Hitler?!
Or Pontius Pilate!

Don't call your mom or your doctor,
Just pick up the phone and call!

NEXTWAVE! Wooawoaah
NEXTWAVE!

Give us a NextWave rollcall!

MONICA!
Is gonna microwave your (whistle)
TABBY!
Is gonna steal all your stuff!
AARON!
Is going to organize your sock drawer!
ELSA!
Is gonna speak with an accent!
THE CAPTAIN!
His name is The Captain!

NEXTWAVE!
NEXTWAVE!
NEXTWAVE! Somebody please, please call...
NEXTWAVE!

For God's sake, somebody call NextWave...

I really didn't like The Avengers, but this film needs Ant-Man, Wasp and Vision for this not to be another waste of time on my part.

DRTJR:
I say Squirrel Girl for Avengers 3.

nah, she should be in the Deadpool movie.

vid87:
Scarlet Witch vs. The Infinity Gauntlet = Hell yeah!

This, definitely this. Wanda proved to be the only definitive counter for the Phoenix, and now the flaming parrot is extinguished. Can't wait to see how she stands up against the gems. IMO Ant-Man can wait for the 3rd. Thanos has been revealed as a possible villain for 2, and throwing Ultron into the mix would lessen the impact of both as well as leave fans scratching their heads.

Damn it no! Marvel have hated me for a long time and now Whedon! Just give me Doctor Strange already. Why will they not do this for my? Did I piss them off somehow? Don't make me wait until phase 3. Don't waste time on Ant-Man or Captain America 2, just give me a Doctor Strange movie and then stick him in The Avengers 2.

How many will they add?
Wasn't there supposed to be a space-prate-raccoon-thingy and AntMan for the second one?
Now a Witch and some SilverDude?
The movie will be one big RoyalRumble!!

Guffe:
How many will they add?
Wasn't there supposed to be a space-prate-raccoon-thingy and AntMan for the second one?
Now a Witch and some SilverDude?
The movie will be one big RoyalRumble!!

The raccoon is in Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man has his movie coming out after Avengers 2. I doubt either of them will be in this one

Avengers 2: This time...it's Falafel!

I'm very interested to see if Whedon will approach them like they Marvel did in The Ultimates. There was some serious incestuous vibes there. But the way Pietro's powers were portayed were pretty cool. Bryan Hitch should storyboard the entire movie!

Bleidd Whitefalcon:

Guffe:
How many will they add?
Wasn't there supposed to be a space-prate-raccoon-thingy and AntMan for the second one?
Now a Witch and some SilverDude?
The movie will be one big RoyalRumble!!

The raccoon is in Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man has his movie coming out after Avengers 2. I doubt either of them will be in this one

AntMan is set to come after Ave2? ok thought he was going to BE IN the second, my miss...
But I've read here on the escapist that the raccoon from GotG would be in the Avengers, maybe those are just rumours thou....

Not going to lie, I was actually a bit disappointed by this news. Not so much because I have anything against Pietro or Wanda, but because as long as the rights are split between FOX and Marvel, the most important part of the twins' backstory - the fact that they're Magneto's children - has to be either glossed over or ignored entirely...

JaredXE:

DRTJR:
I say Squirrel Girl for Avengers 3.

nah, she should be in the Deadpool movie.

She can't, Deadpool is owned by fox, were as Squirrel Girl is owned by Marvel studios.

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/5685-Wrongs-Rights

That video says more about the matter than anyone else possibly could (without just repeating what is said in the video).

Tombsite:

Anachronism:
I thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were owned by Fox on account of being part of the X-Men franchise? Or am I missing something here? In any case, it'll be a little odd to see them in a universe where Magneto doesn't exist. Should be interesting, though.

Because they first showed up as characters in the Avengers comics they can be used outside of the x-men. But only as long as you do not mention mutants, Magneto or X-men.

Long live lawyers I guess

Actually, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's first appearance was in X-Men (volume 1) #4 as part of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. It wasn't until one year later in Avengers (volume 1) #16 when they left their father's team and joined Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

I'm curious as to how this will play out since Fox owns the IP rights to X-Men and all things Mutant (which also could complicate Namor's film debut since he was a golden age character but is mentioned as the first mutant). Perhaps Fox and Disney/Marvel can reach an agreement in order to bring these two in the sequel.

Gizmo1990:
Damn it no! Marvel have hated me for a long time and now Whedon! Just give me Doctor Strange already. Why will they not do this for my? Did I piss them off somehow? Don't make me wait until phase 3. Don't waste time on Ant-Man or Captain America 2, just give me a Doctor Strange movie and then stick him in The Avengers 2.

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A Doctor Strange movie is being "actively developed" as of right now! We're still going to have to wait for Phase 3, unfortunately.

Hay don't hate on Tigra, she's awsome. I'm hoping she'll at least get a cameo in phase 3.

The mainstream cinema going public is not ready for Tigra, with the honourable exception of Japan of course. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are not exactly the first characters I would choose for an Avengers movie, but I have faith in Whedon to implement them well.

You know what Avengers 2 really needs? A plot. A bad-guy from a previous movie coming back with an army out of nowhere... "just because", isn't going to work again. I don't care how witty the Joss Whedon banter is. It worked in the first movie because apparently that's all they could think of to get all the heroes together, but now that they're a team, try and add a smidgen of complexity, if it isn't too much trouble.

With having to ignore mutants and their father, they will feel shoehorned in I fear. But we'll see how it goes.

xPixelatedx:
You know what Avengers 2 really needs? A plot. A bad-guy from a previous movie coming back with an army out of nowhere... "just because", isn't going to work again. I don't care how witty the Joss Whedon banter is. It worked in the first movie because apparently that's all they could think of to get all the heroes together, but now that they're a team, try and add a smidgen of complexity, if it isn't too much trouble.

I can agree with that, given they have setup Thanos at the end of Avengers, I would say something bigger and more awesome will happen. Keeping the first film simple is what made it work to introduce the concept to the general public, now they can make it more complex.

Leftnt Sharpe:
The mainstream cinema going public is not ready for Tigra, with the honourable exception of Japan of course. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are not exactly the first characters I would choose for an Avengers movie, but I have faith in Whedon to implement them well.

Well I agree with you to an extent. Thats why I said Phase three. That will be after GOTG and if that goes well, then the public will be ready for Tigra. Heck i'd say the public is okay with cat ladies if Avatar is any indication.

Space Jawa:

ZZoMBiE13:
I steadfastly refuse to take the bait. I will not Google Nextwave. Instead, I'll just swallow my geek pride and admit that I have no idea what that is.

At it's most basic? It's a Warren Ellis series that's a borderline parody of the Marvel Universe with lots of explosions (many of which are provided by a woman who's superpower is basically defined as "make stuff blow up" [and stealing your stuff]). It's actual canon status within the mainstream Marvel U is debatable because it wasn't intended to be part of 616, but where the fans would really like to believe that it is.

It's a...'quirky'...series to say the least. It's all rather absurd, really.

Damn it. That sounds like something I'd really enjoy. It's just so dangerous to walk into a comic book store. You go in expecting to pick up one or two books and an hour later you leave $60-$100 poorer.

I'll see if they have it for download. :P

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