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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2768 Joined: 18 Sep 2007     | I just wish someone would be able to tell how many walked out because they were offended and how many just left because the movie was crap and they couldn't endure any more of their souls being drained out of them by the epic suckitude? -- Steve |
Time Lord  Posts: 10007 Joined: 13 Feb 2008     | Go on Uwe, make a film about how stupid Islam is next, I'm sure they'd love it. |
Paperboy  Posts: 16 Joined: 13 May 2008     | "He asserted, "We don't spare any group. We don't want to hurt anybody but we want to break the rules. We want to make people think: What is a taboo? We want to make people start thinking about their own boundaries and rules."" I want to make people think: Why is Uwe Boll still directing movies? |
Server Administrator  Posts: 550 Joined: 27 Sep 2004    | This is really a shame after the quality of gameplay and art exhibited in Postal 2... Really, I saw this as finally a game franchise right at Boll's level. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 66 Joined: 27 May 2008 | WTF why is this guy is still makeing movies Come the fuck on how stupid does someone have to be to let this guy make Movies For the Love of God Make it stop Before he ruins a good gameing Franchise |
Paperboy  Posts: 39 Joined: 28 Apr 2008   | Honestly, I have a hard time imagining a hardcore gamer really enjoying any of Uwe Boll's movies. Every game movie he's done so far (the three that I can remember immediately off-hand are Blood Rayne [1 & 2] and House of the Dead) were all absolute shit. The acting was bad, the camera was pathetic, and the effects bordered what I used to see whilst working at the local college TV station. In all honesty, I've seen more interesting films come out of that college, and that's pretty pathetic considering that most of those kids are working with sub-par equipment and budgets that are nigh-on nonexistent. Mind you, all of this slamming has nothing to do with the idea of Postal itself, but I think that Boll is, as usual missing the point. Postal 2 wasn't about 'breaking boundaries of political correctness' or any of that gobshite, but rather just going absolutely batshit in a world populated by stereotypes of what can only easily be described as stupidity in the modern age. The last rumor (unsubstantiated) that I heard of Boll was him demanding Hideo Kojima name him director of the Metal Gear Solid movie, to which Kojima supposedly said 'hell no'. This is, however, unsubstantiated, so if anyone has a link I'd appreciate it. |
Beat Writer Posts: 136 Joined: 20 Dec 2007    |
Even if you don't like the guy, you dont have to get him killed by some raging Muslims.
This could be a good thing. It could show that he intends to change things by mixing it up. Maybee it will suck, but will pave the way for new types of films! Although he has made some godawfull movies, mahaps this will be the turning point that we'll look back on and say "Wow, this is when films changed forever." Not plausable, but its better to put out a ridiculous theory with some chance of it being right then look back on it later. |
Paperboy  Posts: 11 Joined: 2 Jan 2008  |
There's a difference between breaking taboo and genuinely offending people though. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 197 Joined: 23 Dec 2007   | If the 9/11 scene people are talking about is the same I've seen some time ago.... I dare to say i laughed. Still, I dunno anything (else?) about the movie. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 598 Joined: 27 Apr 2008    | Why does everyone knock this genius director? He is the Ford Coppella of his generation. His cinematic visions are a moving enditement on the state of todays society. Sorry must go and turn off my irony alarm |
Muckraker  Posts: 324 Joined: 21 Apr 2008    |
Didn't he offend the muslims as well in this movie? I don't think he would hold back on them now that he's out with the big hammer of offending. Haven't seen it, but i suspect quite a lot of muslims could be offended by his supposed stereotypes and take on terror. |
Beat Writer Posts: 136 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 |
Not really. Breaking taboo offends people, which is why its taboo. If no one cared, then the taboo would not be there. |
Time Lord Posts: 10007 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
Ironically, I think you mean your sarcasm alarm. ;) |
Paperboy  Posts: 41 Joined: 27 Feb 2008 |
Who cares if he did or not, like when aren't muslims offended? His movie might be crap but I think the point hes trying to make with it is, to push back against the walls of ever closing Political correctness. Which is a good thing. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1424 Joined: 2 Mar 2008    | Apparently, the movie is better then "Speed Racer," or at least according to Stuttering Craig of Screwattack.com. |
Wordsmith Extraordinaire  Posts: 10318 Joined: 28 Nov 2007    | I'm sorry, but even though Uwe Boll says he is doing it to defy political correctness, I think he's full of shit. He's doing it because he can. Was House of the Dead a warning about the danger of teen raves? He's just trying to save face. |
BANNED Posts: 91 Joined: 16 Sep 2007   | Uwe Boll is a genius. Anyone that doesn't see this is no better than those crybabies that think every movie ever released has to be perfect and win a hundred Oscars. User was banned for: Zero Punctuation: Awards for 2008. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3252 Joined: 8 May 2008  |
please be sarcastic please be sarcastic please be sarcastic please be sarcastic...if your not...TO THE DUNGEON! but then again you are an endangered species and possibly the last of your kind...oh screw it off with your head god even the movie poster sucks horribly bashing Uwe is a waste of time, its just not worth it |
BANNED  Posts: 681 Joined: 6 Dec 2007  | Hell, I don't care about 9/11 anymore. Ever since it happened, America's just been milking it for all the pity they can get. It's really kind of sick. User was banned for: Mom Calls For Ban On Underworld. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4574 Joined: 25 Feb 2008   | Wait a second? Now he can't even get people to watch his movie FOR FREE? |
Muckraker  Posts: 237 Joined: 2 Jun 2008     | I was one of the happy many to have signed the famous petition. I say there's only one option |
Beat Writer  Posts: 208 Joined: 14 May 2008 |
Closest I can find is TVTropes.org, which says the following:
Of course, with regards Blizzard, he was, apparently quite literally, laughed out of the buidling, according to this MTV article. What they said was "We will not sell the movie rights, not to you… especially not to you". |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 454 Joined: 21 Dec 2007 |
Its funny, something terrible happens, so people use it as justification to do worse. 9/11 let the bush admin invade two countries they had wanted to attack for a long time. However any of you Yanks still feel about it, and it was tragic, it's been used to basically bumf*ck the American people (a grand sweeping generalisation that I could, but can't be bothered, to back up). Just to put the loss of life in to some kind of perspective: Iraqi civilian deaths (this is excluding the wounded) 2003-2008: 84,302 - 91,974 (source: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ ) 9/11 total loss of life: 2973 (source: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/22/terror/ ) Only conclusion I can draw now is: Stop whining. The reaction to the event was/is far more significant and damaging to the world than the event itself could ever have been. Besides, the loss of New Orleans was worse, when you consider the scale of the immediate impact on human life. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 454 Joined: 21 Dec 2007 | Edit: oops, clicked twice. Much apologies. |
Muckraker Posts: 324 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 |
I don't think it's relevant to put it up like that. You can't compare an attack on USA homeland (something never happened before) to nature catastrophes and what the brits had to endure under the blitz. It's kind of unfair to compare things over how many people died without any further calculations (Not that I support the way the americans reacted or anything, it's just misleading to put it up like that :)). |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4574 Joined: 25 Feb 2008 |
That's a good point, America has never been attacked as directly as 9/11, even Pearl Harbour is way out in the Pacific, so attacks on americans must have always been something of an abstract to people in the home states. 9/11 must have really cut deep. contrast that to europe, which has seen near constant violence in the 20th century (ww1, ww2, the Balkans, Northern Ireland, Spain, Greece). So whilst violence and terroism still shocks in europe its no longer as shocking as it might (should) be. back on subject: That hijackers gag in postal would have been funnier if they'd ended with them announcing the trip to hawai, making it 9/11 was a too much. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 415 Joined: 16 Apr 2008 | I want to see this movie because I loved the opening part with the planes. It was just plain hilarius. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 621 Joined: 20 Jan 2008  | I respect what he was trying to say. "We want to make people think: What is a taboo? We want to make people start thinking about their own boundaries and rules." I would do the same. I would also find a less offensive way to do so. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 101 Joined: 8 Jan 2008  | Did anyone see "In the Name of the King?" Did the Dungeon Siegers break any societal taboos about killing krugs? |
Muckraker Posts: 324 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 |
I think the Krugs are mighty angry.. |
Beat Writer Posts: 208 Joined: 14 May 2008 |
But it was all in the name of showing how society defines action and reaction in terms of what is NOT allowed rather than in terms of what IS! They should feel joyful! Liberated! Etcetera! |
Paperboy Posts: 22 Joined: 18 Apr 2008 |
Actually, that was a perfectly fine use of the word Irony. Sarcasm is actually a simple form of irony, though most of the time when people talk about irony they are referring to something more subtle (like saying it's ironic that Alanis Morrisette would sing a song called Ironic about irony when she doesn't appear to understand what irony is. Unless that was all part of the irony, in which case she was being ironic (and sarcastic) when she sang 'Isn't it ironic, don't you think?') |
Beat Writer  Posts: 127 Joined: 21 Mar 2008  |
Aww, diddums. The American government and media have been reglating anything to do with 9/11 as "Thems, is bad terrorists, we must extinguish them at the core, NEVER FORGET, but don't let it be shown." As most ways of life, you can have your cake, but you can't eat it all. You can't say that 9/11 was to be "never forget" and then go "Actually, please don't mention". I'm glad that Uwe had the balls to do this, be it pandering for contreversy, but you know what? At least it's better than the panderings for contraversy on family guy, or any other "LOL I PUSHY THE ENVELOPEE, I'M NOT MEANT TO SAY TAHT!" "comedy" shows that are being aired. One of the spiderman films had to be edited to remove the towers, for what? "NEVER FORGET, BUT FORGET JUST NOW." Also just because X didn't happen to america before, well.. It happened now. Get used to it. Friends and families of people die all the time. Just because yours was due to war, doesn't make your loss any different to the Afganis, Iraqis, Serbs and Vietnameese who died during their respective wars, in which America helped with the murder. Just how important is 9/11 now to the government? Watch Sicko. http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=133 9/11's heroes do not mean shit to America anymore. BACK ON TOPIC If Uwe Boll is truthful in what he says (which, having not seen his films, I cannot certify or deny), he is doing something many mainstream comics are not : Actually pushing he envelope. Films like the 40 year old virgin, anchorman, dodgeball and semi pro are essentially trying to be borderline of what you "Can't do" without pissing off the mainstream bodies. This film, is actually pissing off the mainstream bodies. Good. Regardless of if it's a shitfest, or not, I admire the film simply for that. It goes clumsily where mainstream pretends to go. |
Muckraker Posts: 324 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 | "Also just because X didn't happen to america before, well.. It happened now. Get used to it. Friends and families of people die all the time. Just because yours was due to war, doesn't make your loss any different to the Afganis, Iraqis, Serbs and Vietnameese who died during their respective wars, in which America helped with the murder. Just how important is 9/11 now to the government? Watch Sicko. http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=133 9/11's heroes do not mean shit to America anymore." Swoosh... Was I defending or in anyway agreeing with the american media? Not at all. My point was that it doesn't make sense to make that comparison. |
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Postal Pushes Away Viewers at Free Event
More than three-quarters of the 200 people who attended the free showing of Postal at Hoboken, New Jersey's Pier A Park left before the film's end credits.
Many were quickly offended by the movie's themes and tones, particularly a scene depicting 9/11 as a misunderstanding between the plane's passengers and hijackers seeking a trip to the Bahamas.
"I did not like Uwe Boll's perception of 9/11," explained audience member Mat Levy. "It's too soon to mock a plane going into the World Trade Center. Do you not think there are families out there that had their loved ones killed on 9/11? It really upsets me that he couldn't care less."
Hoboken Mayor David Roberts refused to attend due to this same scene.
Uwe Boll doled out his typical defiant remarks.
"Being politically correct, let's say, the big studios are kind of overdoing it," he stated. "I feel it is time now to make a really wild movie, something over the top."
He asserted, "We don't spare any group. We don't want to hurt anybody but we want to break the rules. We want to make people think: What is a taboo? We want to make people start thinking about their own boundaries and rules."
Source: New Jersey.com via Wired
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