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Fallout 3 Dev: Lack of DLC Won't "Short-Change" PS3 Owners

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Having trouble deciding which version of Fallout 3 to pick up when it hits the shelves at the end of October? Bethesda's Pete Hines suggests thinking about DLC before making up your mind.

Bethesda hasn't released any details about its plans for Fallout 3 downloadable content, saying only that it will be available for the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game, but not for the PlayStation 3. Speaking to MTV Multiplayer, Hines also said that in terms of scope, the DLC won't be the equivalent of a full expansion pack but should fall in the range of the Knights of the Nine add-on for Bethesda's previous effort, Oblivion.

Hines predicted the absence of DLC for the PlayStation 3 release of the game wouldn't be a deal-breaker for many gamers. "The first question is always, 'How many folks are actually legitimately making that distinction?' How many folks have all three [platforms] and every time [they buy a game] are always like, 'Okay, which platform do I play it for?'" he said. He also pointed out that a significant number of gamers across all platforms won't take advantage of the DLC simply because of the sheer scope of the original game.

"For us, with a game that offers 100 hours of gameplay, we don't feel like we're sort of short-changing you up front," he continued. "You're gonna get your $60 worth out of this game, no matter what platform you buy it for, because there is so much content and so much stuff to do. And you can replay it and have it play out differently. So I think we feel pretty confident in terms of, no matter which platform you choose, you're getting a good experience that will hopefully be one of the best, if not the best game you play this year on that platform."

But if you happen to own more than one system and remain hopelessly hung up over which platform to play it on, Hines said DLC, or the lack thereof, was one of the few differences between the three versions and might be worth considering. "Beyond that, if you really sort of deadlocked and you've gotta have your reasons to make a decision between one platform or the other, then yeah, DLC may be one that may push you towards one platform," he said.

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Can I go on record as saying I totally agree with him?

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PC version is it then.

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Step one: Say DLC isn't that big of a deal.
Step two: Say that DLC should influence what system you play on.
Step three: Print $$$$

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Step 1: Read the entire article.

Step 2: Interpret what he's saying.

Step 3: ????

Step 4: Profit!

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Blah blah blah, and nowhere in that ramble did he say, "yes, for those of you that only own a Ps3,,, you are screwed." Wtf, over? Did microsoft pay you guys to exclude the sony console? Why even make the game for it then? Quit spouting pathetic excuses and try telling the goddamn tuth.

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Ok this is kind of stupid, while I agree that DLC isn't a big deal that doesn't really justify not giving it to everyone.

PS3 owners are pretty much paying money for an incomplete game, and will never get "the rest" just because they like their PS3 more.

Just shut up and give us the construction set man! This is what's influencing my purchase.

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ElArabDeMagnifico:

Just shut up and give us the construction set man! This is what's influencing my purchase.

Don't you get that automatically? For me, it just installed with Morrowind.

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stompy:

ElArabDeMagnifico:

Just shut up and give us the construction set man! This is what's influencing my purchase.

Don't you get that automatically? For me, it just installed with Morrowind.

Nope, unlike previous Bethesda releases, no tools will be available for the PC version.

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I believe the statement was no tools will be immediately available. something to the effect of if we do not get the game out as soon as possible then no one will like us anymore (insert subtext, if we give you the tools on pc, then everyone will just make our game better and not pay us to do that)

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*looked up DLC* ohh... i was confused about what they were talking about

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Great. His point that DLC won't be a big deal kind of makes me wonder if I should even bother downloading it. DLC should always be pimped up, especially if you get charged for it.

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Could always wait another year for a GOTY edition or such and get the add-ons and original as one set for the same price.

I know, crazy isn't it? Waiting to buy a game, insane. Pfft.

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PC. The way Fallout is MEANT to be played.

I feel bad for PS3 owners out there. Kinda taking a shotgun to the face.

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thebobmaster:
Can I go on record as saying I totally agree with him?

Tell that to my unarmored, uncombat-usable horse in Oblivion

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Imitation Saccharin :

thebobmaster:
Can I go on record as saying I totally agree with him?

Tell that to my unarmored, uncombat-usable horse in Oblivion

Tell that to the sorry sucker that bought Oblivion for consoles.

:(

You've my sympathies.

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Zerbye:
Great. His point that DLC won't be a big deal kind of makes me wonder if I should even bother downloading it. DLC should always be pimped up, especially if you get charged for it.

I think he's saying that PS3 owners should lament the fact, or buy better computers to get it; it's still an awesome, long game, the the DLC isn't going to be any big project. But if you have all three, might as well get the one that gives your the opportunity of probably getting a little extra. It's like having to choose between being bitten by two snakes, one of which gives you some ice to put on the wound afterward.

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PC version for the FREE mods, DLC prolly will be crap anyway so nothing to cry over PS3 guys.

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Hypothetically, could you get Mods for the Ps3 version? Just curious here, is all. I know the PC version will be the best, just wondering if it would be possiblt to alter my experience on the Ps3.

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Imitation Saccharin :

thebobmaster:
Can I go on record as saying I totally agree with him?

Tell that to my unarmored, uncombat-usable horse in Oblivion

OK. He can meet mine. Oh wait, never mind, I earned Shadowmere. Suckers! (invincible horse FTW)

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Joeshie:

stompy:

ElArabDeMagnifico:

Just shut up and give us the construction set man! This is what's influencing my purchase.

Don't you get that automatically? For me, it just installed with Morrowind.

Nope, unlike previous Bethesda releases, no tools will be available for the PC version.

Yet, from what Ive seen there sort of working on one, but have been finishing the game off. Hopefully a construction kit will be out a month or two after.
I dont think PS3 user's will miss out on much, but I dont see why they are missing out on it, my PS3 can get to the series of tubes and downloads patches for games, why cant they have the extra content. Ill be getting PC version anyway.

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So I guess I'll be playing on my 360 which is a shame, for some reason I was hoping to get this on my PS3. Nevermind though, as long as the DLC isn't as big as The Shivering Isles, then I'm not that fussed.

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Malygris:
"How many folks have all three [platforms] and every time [they buy a game] are always like, 'Okay, which platform do I play it for?'" he said.

Well if one of them does not offer the same amount of content (whether it's in the long run or not) as the other two, its pretty obvious which one not to go for, in my mind.

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Already got it prebought for PC and am waiting for my Valut Tek bobblehead'n'lunchbox.
I'm pretty sure DLC doesen't make or break a game. At least that's if the content wasn't stripped from the game and then offered up for download.

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Fineldar:

I think he's saying that PS3 owners should [not] lament the fact, or buy better computers to get it; it's still an awesome, long game, the the DLC isn't going to be any big project. But if you have all three, might as well get the one that gives your the opportunity of probably getting a little extra. It's like having to choose between being bitten by two snakes, one of which gives you some ice to put on the wound afterward.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm just disappointed that the DLC "isn't going to be any big project".

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Well considering 80% of the downloading of DLC (console) is on 360 I'm not surprised Bethesda went exclusive for some MS $.

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thebobmaster:

OK. He can meet mine. Oh wait, never mind, I earned Shadowmere. Suckers! (invincible horse FTW)

What? Where? When? How? (why?)

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EvilEngineNumberNine:
Already got it prebought for PC and am waiting for my Valut Tek bobblehead'n'lunchbox.
I'm pretty sure DLC doesen't make or break a game. At least that's if the content wasn't stripped from the game and then offered up for download.

Well, perhaps you are right but they are announcing the damn thing before the game comes out. I mean, they are pretty much telling us to our faces that they will release an incomplete game.

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ElArabDeMagnifico:

Well, perhaps you are right but they are announcing the damn thing before the game comes out. I mean, they are pretty much telling us to our faces that they will release an incomplete game.

That is totally crap. HE isn't saying it's an INCOMPLETE game by any means, especially when he DID say:

"...a game that offers 100 hours of gameplay, we don't feel like we're sort of short-changing you up front," he continued. "You're gonna get your $60 worth out of this game, no matter what platform you buy it for, because there is so much content and so much stuff to do."

PS3 owners just won't get the SMALL addon(s) they release AFTER the game is out, which I DO find rather perplexing. But still, don't say they are releasing an incomplete game to PS3 owners, because that's bunk.

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I agree, this game has so much gameplay that it's nearly impossible to feel shortchanged.

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Baby Tea:

ElArabDeMagnifico:

Well, perhaps you are right but they are announcing the damn thing before the game comes out. I mean, they are pretty much telling us to our faces that they will release an incomplete game.

That is totally crap. HE isn't saying it's an INCOMPLETE game by any means, especially when he DID say:

"...a game that offers 100 hours of gameplay, we don't feel like we're sort of short-changing you up front," he continued. "You're gonna get your $60 worth out of this game, no matter what platform you buy it for, because there is so much content and so much stuff to do."

PS3 owners just won't get the SMALL addon(s) they release AFTER the game is out, which I DO find rather perplexing. But still, don't say they are releasing an incomplete game to PS3 owners, because that's bunk.

OK man just CALM down. I get your POINT, but you still get MINE too. HE says that you get your moneys worth, but WON'T get the add-ons (LIKE OMFG WHERE DOES HE SAY THEY ARE SMALL?! they could be substantial and huge for all we know!) and says it's FAIR. Why? Perhaps there's 300 hours of the game, but like Oblivion, maybe it was all just bullshit copy and pasted ruins. Only a handful of sidequests and sub-stories were good, like DB and TG.

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DarkHyth:

Malygris:
"How many folks have all three [platforms] and every time [they buy a game] are always like, 'Okay, which platform do I play it for?'" he said.

Well if one of them does not offer the same amount of content (whether it's in the long run or not) as the other two, its pretty obvious which one not to go for, in my mind.

Yeah, but remember - just offering extra content in the long run isn't exactly a promise. Look at GTA IV - the 360 version was supposed to have extra DLC, and that turned into vaporware.

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ElArabDeMagnifico:
LIKE OMFG WHERE DOES HE SAY THEY ARE SMALL?! they could be substantial and huge for all we know!

Here's a quote from the article:

"...Hines also said that in terms of scope, the DLC won't be the equivalent of a full expansion pack but should fall in the range of the Knights of the Nine add-on for Bethesda's previous effort, Oblivion."

So there you go, not huge as you speculate. Sorry if I got riled, I'm on a Reese's and Coke buzz right now. Easily excitable.

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ElArabDeMagnifico:

OK man just CALM down. I get your POINT, but you still get MINE too. HE says that you get your moneys worth, but WON'T get the add-ons (LIKE OMFG WHERE DOES HE SAY THEY ARE SMALL?! they could be substantial and huge for all we know!) and says it's FAIR. Why? Perhaps there's 300 hours of the game, but like Oblivion, maybe it was all just bullshit copy and pasted ruins. Only a handful of sidequests and sub-stories were good, like DB and TG.

It seems like there will be a great amount of variation in dungeons/caves and there are evil sidequests and good sidequests and all of them have more than one outcome, sounds alright to me

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If it didn't matter then they wouldn't have done it...

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