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News Room Contributor  Posts: 8880 Joined: 12 Nov 2002     | |
Master Archivist  Posts: 9664 Joined: 22 Aug 2008     | Don't like a game? Think it's offensive to you? Here's a hint for you: Don't buy it! No one's forcing you to play the bloody thing. "Cultural sensitivites" my bloody arse. Microsoft could make a killing with Fallout 3 if both PC and PS3 versions aren't getting released. They're either stupid or...well, stupid. ;/ |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 63 Joined: 10 Sep 2008     | That kind of backlash is just what they should want! It gets more attention and makes more people buy it. What is the problem? |
BANNED  Posts: 3535 Joined: 11 Oct 2008    | I'm not from India but....i hate society. Why not just let the game be sold and people that are offended by it simply not buy it? Seriously is it that hard? User was banned for: FUN FORUM GAME THX FO PLAYIN :3. (Permanent) |
BANNED  Posts: 1891 Joined: 26 Mar 2008     | Bloody religion, bah! User was banned for: Poll: Round 4 - North: (1) Turbine vs (2) Valve. (Permanent) |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 519 Joined: 17 Jan 2008    | Were the previous two Fallouts available in India?, Didnt Worms have an exploding cow, was that ok? how about harvest moon? This raises so many additional questions |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2259 Joined: 7 Jul 2008     | Well, you gotta give them credit for not wanting to digitally kill a wireframe mesh and a bunch of textures representing a cow mutated by radiation so badly that it now has two heads but is still apparently sacred. I wonder if it's twice as sacred for having two heads? |
BANNED  Posts: 681 Joined: 6 Dec 2007    | Mail 'em hamburgers. User was banned for: Mom Calls For Ban On Underworld. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 396 Joined: 3 Sep 2008    | It's aparent that all the world wide religions are trying to see which one can be the bigger dick about gaming. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 380 Joined: 15 Sep 2008     | Christopher Hitchens: God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 104 Joined: 22 Oct 2008    | ....Why don't they just re-name the cows for the Indian version? |
Red Guard  Posts: 4195 Joined: 18 Sep 2008    |
Call 'em 'moo moos'. Or 'cowlike, but not sacred beasts' And for the sound FX, you can just reverse the current moo! oooooooOOOOOOOOOOM! |
Muckraker  Posts: 237 Joined: 24 Sep 2008   | Holy cow! ...and I thought it had to do with Pakistan being a nuclear power and Fallout 3 taking place in a post-nuclear world. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007    | This is getting crazy. And you're no better Western culture, with your insane fear of sex. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 10 Joined: 11 Jul 2008    |
Ironic, being said in a thread about an American-developed series that practically pioneered off-screen sex. :P |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007 |
I can see a man get blown literally to pieces, yet the sight of genitals was simply too vile for such a game. Irony negated. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4602 Joined: 9 Jul 2008  | Who wouldn't want to kill a two-headed mutant cow? I think they should atleast release the game there with a special warning or something, for the people who are okay with killing cows. In videogames, atleast. |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 |
So there is a culture that is even more sexual than the Western culture? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007 |
Sex. Insane fear of sex. |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 |
you mean because of AIDS? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 404 Joined: 30 May 2008   |
The Kama Sutra is an Indian text, ironically. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 467 Joined: 15 Jul 2008   | We have many cultures over here.. I would say that the majority of India is in a Religious community. They take their religion much more seriously than we do in the west. In many ways religion is all they have... I am not surprised by this. What is stupid to you is offensive to others. But as most people don't know much out of their own communities I am not surprised by some of these comments. And as most of you aren't even in India I dont see why this would even concern you, let alone give you a negative opinion about a country or company? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007 |
\ You know it's still illegal in most of the US for a women to walk around without a shirt on unless she's protesting? |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 |
check this out: http://www.gadling.com/2007/04/26/which-country-has-the-most-frequent-sex/ lots of Western countrys in the top 10 :) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007 |
Annnnd? I'm sure the catholic church is riff with masturbators. |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 | ok, i give up! I think I better go and have sex with my girlfriend. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 411 Joined: 8 Jun 2008   |
And child molesters, apparently. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4661 Joined: 6 Sep 2008     | VISHNU IS DISPLEASED! Meh, political correctness.. Microsoft has to be nice to India though, it does all of it's tech support. |
Paperboy Posts: 35 Joined: 4 Oct 2008    | To be fair, it's not been banned, so Indians can import it if they really want it. |
BANNED Posts: 3535 Joined: 11 Oct 2008 |
You cheeky bastard. User was banned for: FUN FORUM GAME THX FO PLAYIN :3. (Permanent) |
On the Record  Posts: 6536 Joined: 10 Mar 2008   | This is sortof the equivalent of Sony pulling LBP because of the Forum post with the Muslim(s). Infact, I would consider this worse than the Sony/Muslim thing, atleast they're still releasing the damn game everywhere they can! Except this time, NOBODY WAS COMPLAINING. Or atleast, nobody was complaining in this article to my knowledge. Reading it over again, like, 10 time no where does it say that any Indians were offended. Microsoft just made the assumption that they didn't want to offend them, so they arn't going to release it in India at all. While I do understand them not wanting to offend anyone, they could atleast wait until someone complained and then release an official appology or something. What the hell is this? |
Master Archivist Posts: 9664 Joined: 22 Aug 2008 |
In tactics it's called a pre-emptive strike. The only problem is that they're pre-emptively striking against an empty field of grass (one, ostensibly, with no cows in it I might add). Last time I checked India had a fairly diverse collection of religions and peoples residing there, not just Hindus. I've not played the Fallouts thus far (never got round to it, unfortunately). Did 1 and 2 have these two-headed cows in? I assume so from:
In which case, were 1 and 2 unreleased in India? I can't see any reference to them in a quick skim of both game's wikis, so who knows? :s |
Beat Writer  Posts: 217 Joined: 25 Apr 2008   | That's gotta be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I'm getting a little tired of people being so damned worried about causing offense over every little thing. It's starting to get to the point where things are so PC you can't say anything for fear of ticking off every religion on the planet. If someone gets upset at the game and complains, too bad. It's just a game, and nobody guaranteed you a life where you wouldn't be offended occasionally. Microsoft should just accept any complaints that come their way (they'll get plenty anyway, for the violence and such I'm betting) and deal with it. Idiots. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 888 Joined: 29 Mar 2008   | i really will kill someone here if that happen ... thats just sad where is the freedom to say or paint or make a game whit cows if i want? thats just barbaric and not in a good way... and ... i belive they are fighting, they try to see which country makes gaming a bad/ illegal thing to do in the world... now its indian versus the Muslims... now its matter of time... duke nukem will never be out because the tits and we will never see resivend evil 5 because killing black zombies is baaaaaaad... EDIT: |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3664 Joined: 21 Jan 2008   | A lot of you guys are forgetting that Microsoft is pulling Fallout 3 off Indian shelves. Frankly, most Indian gamers wouldn't care, and the deeply religious ones wouldn't know about video games to begin with. Hell, most will get the game regardless, since the place is rife with piracy. So, re-iteration: this is Microsoft's decision, not due to some kind of complaint. |
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No Fallout 3 For India - UPDATED
Bad news for gamers in India: It looks like you're not going to get to play Fallout 3 after all.
While the PC and PlayStation 3 versions of the game were never scheduled to be released in India, Microsoft had been tapped as the distributor of the Xbox 360 release of the game, set to take place on October 28. But now, Microsoft India has released a statement, reported by GamingIndians, that the game will not be released due to concerns over "cultural sensitivities."
"Microsoft constantly endeavors to bring the best games to Indian consumers in sync with their international release," the company said in the statement. "However, in light of cultural sensitivities in India, we have made the business decision to not bring Fallout 3 into the country."
As GamingIndians points out, games like Postal, BioShock and Grand Theft Auto are readily available for purchase in India, so what it is that makes Fallout 3 such a risk is a complete mystery at this point. We've put out feelers to try to get to the bottom of this, and we'll update with new information when it becomes available. In the meantime, this looks like yet another case of a game publisher going way too far in an attempt to avoid tipping any sacred cows.
UPDATE: Yes, I made a funny. But Sameer Desai of GamingIndians has confirmed that the presence of cows in the game, the famous Fallout brahmins, is in fact the problem. "The issue at hand, is that in the game you can slaughter cows. Cows are sacred in the Hindu religion, and if I'm not mistaken, the cows in the game are called Brahmins, which is the name of a Hindu sect/caste," he said. "Considering the games that are readily available in India, this shouldn't be a problem, but since Microsoft was directly distributing the game in India, I think they've chosen to be cautious rather than be faced with a backlash later."
So now we know.
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