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WoW Sequel Could "Kill Off Franchise"

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Blizzard finds "no requirement" to develop another World of Warcraft when they intend on improving the original game for years to come.

With Wrath of the Lich King's release to millions of devotees worldwide, role-playing game kingpin Blizzard is looking forward into the Warcraft franchise's future for what project to pursue next. Since the original title launch four years ago and two expansion packs in the meantime, could it possibly be time for Warcraft to get the Starcraft 2 treatment?

"I don't personally think that there's a requirement to do a sequel," stated Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer at Blizzard.

Instead, the studio will continue improving World of Warcraft with expansions and content updates "so long as there's a meaningful number of players that are interested in playing it."

"We think World of Warcraft is a great stand alone product and one that a lot of people are very much enjoying," he continued.

Sams and company have little reason to think differently. When a majority of players who left World of Warcraft to play Age of Conan or Warhammer are returning to the product, the game has a near monopoly on the MMO market.

Blizzard understands WoW's position and only intends on preserving its dominance. Sams stated, "As it relates to other MMOs, time will tell what we're going to do but doing a sequel can help kill off the franchise and so I think we want people to be able to focus on this and again I think that we're going to be able to provide compelling content that's going to definitely feed the needs of players."

Source: Videogamer

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Wait, so no WoW 2 or no Warcraft 4? The former I couldn't care less about, but to completely disregard the series to improve the MMO is kind of stupid. I don't think we *need* a Warcraft 4, but WoW is not part of the Warcraft franchise, it's simply a spin-off.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Wait, so no WoW 2 or no Warcraft 4? The former I couldn't care less about, but to completely disregard the series to improve the MMO is kind of stupid. I don't think we *need* a Warcraft 4, but WoW is not part of the Warcraft franchise, it's simply a spin-off.

The point is that Blizzard doesn't think World of WarCraft is a spinoff. Your statement is moot.

Anyways, it is bad news, but some franchises need to end while they are ahead anyways. Personally, this is a better fate for WarCraft then letting it wither away like a beaten dead horse.

No WoW2 makes sense, there has to be a massive decline in subscribers first to even consider launching a new one. As it seems, these expansions serve a large role in getting cancelled accounts back and draw in new people, so why bother making a whole new product?

SuperFriendBFG:

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Wait, so no WoW 2 or no Warcraft 4? The former I couldn't care less about, but to completely disregard the series to improve the MMO is kind of stupid. I don't think we *need* a Warcraft 4, but WoW is not part of the Warcraft franchise, it's simply a spin-off.

The point is that Blizzard doesn't think World of WarCraft is a spinoff. Your statement is moot.

But that is my statement. Blizzard is making a major mistake in my opinion to not consider WoW a spinoff, because it essentially is. Ah well, like I said, Warcraft 4 would be great to have, but completely unnecessary.

I agree with blizz, it's going fine as it is and from what i've seen the sotry line is to continue and dive deeper in the normal WoW. Also why make WoW2 when theres over 11 million active subscribers on WoW today. I think if they made a WoW2 or a spinoff then people would just think blizz is being overly greedy.

WoW 2? No.

WC4? Likely.

I'm waiting for WOW to become a generational right of passage; when a father gives his son his first WOW account.

tendo82:
I'm waiting for WOW to become a generational right of passage; when a father gives his son his first WOW account.

Son, I want you to take my Lvl 146 Paladin out for a spin. Yeah, I mean it, here's the password. Don't do anything too crazy, okay? Just drop a few meteors on some Horde scum and...God, you've grown up so fast.

Logan Frederick:

Instead, the studio will continue improving World of Warcraft with expansions and content updates "so long as there's a meaningful number of players that are interested in playing it."

That to me anyway, kind of sounds like hes saying
"As long as people are paying us enough, there is no point in making more stuff for them, if they want to wait patiently for more let them. Until other MMORPGs start rivaling us, we can just leave WoW users to keep paying and playing."

But unfortunately, I'm an addict, and just re-subscribed, even though I haven't got a chance of buying WoTLK, until about Christmas, (I'm broke 'til then)

Why on earth would they have to make a sequel to WOW? Assuming they keep making iterative changes to the game, they can shape it in anyway they like.

The only thing I could see Blizzard doing is reaching a point when WOW as an intellectual property has grown stale and then creating an entirely new IP to base an MMO around.

but doing a sequel can help kill off the franchise

Its kind of nice to see someone taking this approach rather than the EA style approach of flog a franchise til its dead, flog the corpse til its mushy and pulped, keep flogging it until the flesh is flayed from the bones then try and sell the skeleton as something new.

Warcraft IV would be nice, though.

Well it would be ridiculous to make a WoW 2. But I might add that my brother (who plays WoW) got a new computer and had to install WoW onto it, and according to him the patching took 2 straight days. On a fast, new computer and a pretty good internet connection. Sort of ridiculous.

The WotLK disc actually has all three games on it, IIRC, and each new game has all the old patches (BC had all the Classic patches, WotLK has all the BC patches), so it should be much, much quicker now.

I don't see how they could improve it... Upgrade the graphics and improve areas of the world so it LOOKS better... But everything else... Don't touch it Bliz. I hope they think about another expansion in a years time that takes you to 90 with a new hero class other then the Death knight. After a "Warrior" type of hero I'd like a "mage-ish" type.

I'm personally staying away from Blizzards Franchises

should have made Starcraft: Ghost, Warcrafts stuck in MMO limbo, Starcraft 2 is being torn into bits when it shouldent, and Diablo 3 (last i cared to check) was having a debate to see if they should make players Pay to Access Battle.net

They should not have made Ghost if it wasn't going to be good, WC4 will eventually come, SC2 is still going to be awesome, and Battle.net will not be subscription based.

:P

CantFaketheFunk:
They should not have made Ghost if it wasn't going to be good, WC4 will eventually come, SC2 is still going to be awesome, and Battle.net will not be subscription based.

:P

Do you ever get tired of repeating such things and being nice about it, Haro? (*points to avatar*)

I'm a tad confused that they're not looking to release a new MMO actually. I recall they were recruiting for a super secret "Next-Gen MMO" 6 months or so ago which most people pegged as either a new IP, WoW2 or World of Starcraft. Guess they might have just been hired to work on WotLK, but that had already been announced so it seems odd they'd keep the cards close to their chest in such a way.

Eh, who knows. Not complaining really, I quite enjoy playing WoW still.

Amnestic:

CantFaketheFunk:
They should not have made Ghost if it wasn't going to be good, WC4 will eventually come, SC2 is still going to be awesome, and Battle.net will not be subscription based.

:P

Do you ever get tired of repeating such things and being nice about it, Haro? (*points to avatar*)

I'm a tad confused that they're not looking to release a new MMO actually. I recall they were recruiting for a super secret "Next-Gen MMO" 6 months or so ago which most people pegged as either a new IP, WoW2 or World of Starcraft. Guess they might have just been hired to work on WotLK, but that had already been announced so it seems odd they'd keep the cards close to their chest in such a way.

Eh, who knows. Not complaining really, I quite enjoy playing WoW still.

Haros repeat. It's what they do.

And they're certainly still working on a new project, but we have absolutely no idea what it is. Talked to Oli (from Eurogamer) a bit at EVE Fanfest about it, he and I are both thinking that it's a new IP which would be nice.

May i point out that a Blizzard executive is the one claiming that loads of ex-WoW fans are flooding back. I've yet to see any numbers that confirm this (although i bet someone will thus shutting me up)

Of course he doesn't get tired of being nice, his Avatar is a toy invented by the first newtype. Amuro would be proud of how he deals with the failboys.

So long as Blizzard keeps working on new projects I don't mind. Guess I should play WoW one of these days...

TsunamiWombat:
Of course he doesn't get tired of being nice, his Avatar is a toy invented by the first newtype. Amuro would be proud of how he deals with the failboys.

That's the Gundam 00 version used by Lockon Stratos (and his younger brother/twin brother, Lockon Stratos), different universe to Amuro ;d Though I concede that Amuro's was the first.

Guess I should play WoW one of these days...

Considering how many trials you can get for it, you really don't have a reason not to other than laziness at clicking a few links.

I think they went wrong with WarCraft when they lightened the mood in the 3rd game. I love that they added a second continent and all that, but what I loved about WarCraft II (and Diablo II) was how dark the villians were. Ogrim Doomhammer and Guldan the Warlock were two of the most interesting characters in the series. And then Blizzard went and made up emphasize with the Orcs by establishing them as victims of an almost Holocaust like event (mind you, in WC 1 & 2, the Orcs were the Nazis). In WCI & II, you didn't need to emphasize with the Orcs. You liked playing them because they were badass, vicious, cruel and evil. Paragons of Virtue was an Alliance-only attribute. I mean, the whole plot of WCIII is "let's all team up together and defeat the Demons!" Frozen Throne failed to inject some serious evilness into the game when it decided that "dark" = "emo." Not the same thing.

If they make a Zerg "good" in StarCraft II, I'm gonna flip a shit.

My questions about not creating a WoW sequel are A) Won't the graphics engine eventually get dated? and B) If there is a WCIV, won't the plot of that game cause significant changes to the WoW landscape? Won't you have to make a WoW2 as a result? Unless, as the first poster stated, WoW is just non-canonical.

My questions about not creating a WoW sequel are A) Won't the graphics engine eventually get dated? and B) If there is a WCIV, won't the plot of that game cause significant changes to the WoW landscape? Won't you have to make a WoW2 as a result? Unless, as the first poster stated, WoW is just non-canonical.

Either make WoW non canonical or simply incorporate WoW canon events into the game, with your WoW heroes playing the part of footsoldiers or similar. Take the case of Illidan's death for example. In WC4, you've got Maiev and Akama as heroes moving against him, but you could also have a Draenei/Night Elf base to amass forces with to attack the Black Temple, whereas in WoW it'd just be your 25 characters+Akama and Maiev as NPC characters. It wouldn't really be that difficult to be honest.

And couldn't they just update the graphics engine if they felt the need? One of WoW's selling points is that you don't need a top-of-the-line computer to play it. It's got such a low set of minimum specs that most everyone can play it these days. Not only that, but why update at all? Time and time again we're shown that people can enjoy games with dated graphics (one need only look at how popular Starcraft still is today) and that updating it really isn't necessary.

CantFaketheFunk:
They should not have made Ghost if it wasn't going to be good

That double negative is confusing me. I was sorely disappointed hearing it canceled (though I am led to believe indefinitely suspended being a more suitable term,) which is mostly why I do not play any of the Warcraft titles anymore. I mostly blame WoW for it for no other reason that I can.

I'm still waiting for them to drop SC2 in favor of another expansion.

L.B. Jeffries:

tendo82:
I'm waiting for WOW to become a generational right of passage; when a father gives his son his first WOW account.

Son, I want you to take my Lvl 146 Paladin out for a spin. Yeah, I mean it, here's the password. Don't do anything too crazy, okay? Just drop a few meteors on some Horde scum and...God, you've grown up so fast.

This is making the assumption that WoW players will ever procreate (I kid because I love). As for the actual article, I don't think a WoW sequel will be necessary. Just keep cranking out expansions, or adding in instances and dungeons with patch updates.

As for Warcraft 4, not overly concerned on that front. It would sell well now that WoW players have been introduced into the Warcraft (and to a lesser extent, Warhammer Fantasy) story and background.

They could use their mysterious 5th developer team to produce new warcraft games and then have teams 1 and 3 slowly update wow to trudge along with the storyline(ie make sure the story is synced up at release of the next wow expansion + new rts and advance the story for one or two campaign missions every major patch) IMO it would be awesome to actualy be able to recognize the maps you played the rts on.

Using unofficial developer team numbering:
1 - WoW
2 - SC2
3 - WoW patches and support
4 - D3
5 - unknown project.

Yeah, it's a good call. Wonder if that means soon they'll be doing a CCP and releasing a whole new graphics engine?

It would be silly to make a World of Warcraft 2 its not the kind of game that needs a sequel just expansions but on the other hand I don't think they are going to pop out numerous expansion packs to keep the game going.

reaper_2k9:
It would be silly to make a World of Warcraft 2 its not the kind of game that needs a sequel just expansions but on the other hand I don't think they are going to pop out numerous expansion packs to keep the game going.

Surely one could have said the same for Everquest (though this is conjecture on my part, I've not played it), and yet they still made a sequel for it? Same with Guild Wars too.

tendo82:
Why on earth would they have to make a sequel to WOW?

better graphics and vast improvements to the world itself, such as allowing flying mounts in azeroth itself

I believe all MMO's should be salted and burn back to hell :)

I personally am not surprised.
Blizzard was killing off the main characters of the RTS (as they should to keep the die-hard fans interested), but even if Blizzard hadn't, I doubt there would have been a WC4 anyways.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Wait, so no WoW 2 or no Warcraft 4? The former I couldn't care less about, but to completely disregard the series to improve the MMO is kind of stupid. I don't think we *need* a Warcraft 4, but WoW is not part of the Warcraft franchise, it's simply a spin-off.

Explain to me how there would be a sequel to an MMORPG.

Yellow Lad Unleashed:
I personally am not surprised.
Blizzard was killing off the main characters of the RTS (as they should to keep the die-hard fans interested), but even if Blizzard hadn't, I doubt there would have been a WC4 anyways.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Wait, so no WoW 2 or no Warcraft 4? The former I couldn't care less about, but to completely disregard the series to improve the MMO is kind of stupid. I don't think we *need* a Warcraft 4, but WoW is not part of the Warcraft franchise, it's simply a spin-off.

Explain to me how there would be a sequel to an MMORPG.

Everquest 2? Guild Wars 2?

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