Assassin's Creed 2 Set During French Revolution?

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I can't wait for A2. My only worry is weather it will come out this decade.

don't want to drop any spoilers but considering the ending of assassins creed i was definitely thinking the sequel would be set in feudal japan or something. ninjas and samurais wahey!

If you were Guy Fawkes in London, that would own.

I can see myself getting my Scarlett Pimpernel on. I don't think this has been a historical period or conflict that has been covered deeply by gaming in the past, and I'd like to see it open up. Can you imagine the cobbled streets of Paris with the musk of revolution in the air?

Hell yes!

So.....this could be a very easy game. 8/

If the targets of French, won't they just give up mid battle? xD

Sennz0r:

ElArabDeMagnifico:

Sennz0r:
Ugh,, I can't say I share your enthusiasm on that one Pedro...
I was already moaning when I saw Fable 2 included rifles. Now imagine that plus the French (which I don't like too much anyways, nothing personal), the clothes they wore at that time and the pansy weapons they had to go with it.

I wish they'd go back in time for the sequel for a change. Set it in feudal Japan or ancient China. Somewhere where the civilisations at war at the time fought real battles with real warriors and real weapons. Not with tights and cannons and guns...

Sounds more like irrational prejudice to me. Seems like you would prefer "Marcus Fenix" as the main character or something.

Maybe it's irrational and it's most certainly stereotypical, but if I wanted Assassin's Creed 2 to be like Gears of War I'd say "why won't they make a game like Gears of WAR?" *yada yada yada fanboy blabbering ensues. No. I would've prefered it to be around a society that has a code, honour. And for me this happens to be a civilisation famed for its prowess in martial arts and ways of the sword. Not gunplay.
I actually have no love for the gun age, hence my disappointment when I found out Fable 2 kicked out my lovely bow and replaced them with guns, and at the same time was completely overjoyed when I heard Mirror's Edge could be finished without firing a single shot. However I am no hypocrite, I do play shooters, and enjoy a number of them. However I prefer melee combat and primitive ranged weapons far above firearms. I find them more a sign of valour and skill, as opposed to firearms, which are used by the ones who need more power than they are physically capable of creating.

Well this sounds a lot like survival of the fittest doesn't it :)
Let's just keep this within games, please, and most of all within the topic of warfare. Don't go and transfer this into everyday life.

Alright, fair enough. I understand this too, I always consider it more honorable to have a "duel" instead (TANGENT: France is still "king of Fencing" right?) but I'm sure guns in Assassin's Creed could work, just look at Mirror's Edge. I never liked the first one to begin with but I don't expect guns to completely ruin it.

Doesn't sound that good to me. Personally I'd like a modern-day 'Creed', set in some Middle Eastern or African country. When I went to Morroco and walked around the markets it totally felt like I was in some game.

Sennz0r:

rossatdi:

Sennz0r:

Are they single-shot rifles with the accuracy of that time? Sure I'll take you on.

Okay, okay. Lets adjust for training and cost of equipment. Where do you get off calling early modern European warfare unmanly? It's not like knights and samurai were particularly 'manly' in that they basically just rode around killing poorly armoured peasants. And if anyone starts any bullshit about "samurai don't ride horses" I'll kneecap them.

Cost of one samurai: a life time of training, discipline and very expensive weapons.
Cost of one musketeer: 3 bob and a few weekends practising at the range.

In fact, warfare isn't manly, its horrible, bloody and always ends in death. And I'm joining the army sometime soon!

Anyway, wasn't this thread about the setting? I think revolutionary France would be a pretty awesome one.

Yes, samurai once rode around on horses cutting off heads of peasants. It was cruel, it was horrible.

But, as you said, these people also made fighting their life. The Samurai developed codes of honour, became extremely traditional. They actually did fight for their honour, souls and homes.
I can't really say a musketeer who spent 6 days at bootcamp has the same values as Samurai. Apart from the occasional patriot most of these people were drafted forcibly, thus making them unmotivated soldiers. It's not the effectiveness of the numbers and equipment I respect here. It's the devotion and drive of the people who choose to live in this way.

It was toward the end of the Samurai that they had developed their code of honor. Prior to their code, the samurai had been arrogant and where extremely vicious when a good chunk of them became Ronin. The code was designed to instill a path for and something to believe in when these people had been essentially cast aside as useless or outdated. war was their life because they had no other choice originally. War is hell and none of it is manly. Whether a man kills another man with great skill or he kills with 3 weekends of training. Certainly the thought of death by sword or bow is more romantic than someone being shot with a rifle or blown up with some bomb with the person never having to see the target.

EDIT: Oh and the game taking place during the French Revolution could make for an interesting setting.

Didn't they have muskets during that time?

I'd prefer the Russian Revolution, myself. Talk about a subject never explored by gaming!

Much more exciting, IMO... dozens of competing factions... anarchists, communists, other kinds of anarchists, loyalists, and everyone with their own idea of how it should work. THAT would be a good setting for an assassination game.

But, of course, it's Ubisoft... so it'll have to be France, won't it? :(

J-Man:
Doesn't sound that good to me. Personally I'd like a modern-day 'Creed', set in some Middle Eastern or African country. When I went to Morroco and walked around the markets it totally felt like I was in some game.

Wouldn't that just be a re-run of the original game, only with guns instead of bows/crossbows?

Personally, I'd love to see a game set in the French Revolution, and a game based around assassination has a lot of scope in that particular time period. My only concern is that Ubisoft won't make full use of the setting and there'll be more flag collecting.

So, does this mean that the entire ending of the first game, with its many hints to Asia and South America was completely pointless and irrelevant? And we're supposed to believe that the Templars/Abstergo were somehow involved in the French Revolution?

Sorry, but I really hope that the guy's talking out of his ass when he says it's set in the French Revolution, because if it is, they've basically said "So, you liked the first game? Well up yours, it wasn't canon".

Bigger question, how long untill it's out on the pc after it comes out on consoles?

I think that ubisoft montreal deserves props for setting a game not in middle earth ,space ,world war 2,or,the war in iraq and another assassins creed would be another breath of fresh air in the ocean of unoriginal game ideas

Wouldn't that just be a re-run of the original game, only with guns instead of bows/crossbows?

Personally, I'd love to see a game set in the French Revolution, and a game based around assassination has a lot of scope in that particular time period. My only concern is that Ubisoft won't make full use of the setting and there'll be more flag collecting.[/quote]

I figure they'll do away with a good chunk of the collecting. It'll probably be more balanced out and I'd expect the combat to be more along the lines of the new Prince of Persia. Last time they spent a lot of time building the engine and prettying the game up. Now they don't have to do all that, they can focus mainly on game play and story.

Yes, it could take place during the French Revolution. People shouldn't interpret that statement as they do, they're wrong.

It's not probable, only possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Corday
If its true, then I want to be this guy. French Revolution + Assassins = Short Stabbings

Only as long as my character wears poofy trousers. I DEMAND poofy trousers!

I think the French Revolution setting would be a breath of fresh air. I'd love to scale to the top of Notre Dame or Chartres Cathedral and gaze down at the towns below. Night assassinations would also be a cool addition and would go some way toward nullifying the effect of the use of ballistic weapons; that and the slow reload time.

Kinda removes the whole point of the Japanese (I believe) message on the wall at the end of Assassin's Creed if it is set during this period.

But sounds intresting and I'd never have guessed it. Also according to Inside Xbox's SentUAMessage section Ubisoft did cofirm it was likely to be set in 18th century France.

Mariena:
Hooray, Ubisoft Montreal is in for another game.. Third time's a charm, they say. After Assassin's Creed, Far Cry 2, let's see if they can make a game with pretty graphics and shiny environments without sacrificing gameplay. Oh, a decent plot would be nice as well.

Wow... nerd rage is built up so much now... I have to fight so hard to keep myself from getting in a huge argument about how good assassins creed was

Does no one read Game Informer? They already have Renaissance Venice, Italy as the established setting with a young Venetian named Ezio as the main character.

Highlandheadbanger:
Does no one read Game Informer? They already have Renaissance Venice, Italy as the established setting with a young Venetian named Ezio as the main character.

Look at the date of the original post.

dammit highlandheadbanger, I was just about to say exactly that.

I don't care if they don't change assasin's creed so much. the first was one level of a great original game over and over again. all they need to do is add more content, then they're golden.

i can not wait for this game.

Luno:
don't want to drop any spoilers but considering the ending of assassins creed i was definitely thinking the sequel would be set in feudal japan or something. ninjas and samurais wahey!

that would be sweet.

Highlandheadbanger:
Does no one read Game Informer? They already have Renaissance Venice, Italy as the established setting with a young Venetian named Ezio as the main character.

Alas back in November we were using our time machines to cheat on sporting events, rather than grabbing Game Informer early, and we can't go back now, or the universe would collapse.

bernthalbob616:

Highlandheadbanger:
Does no one read Game Informer? They already have Renaissance Venice, Italy as the established setting with a young Venetian named Ezio as the main character.

Look at the date of the original post.

nilcypher:

Highlandheadbanger:
Does no one read Game Informer? They already have Renaissance Venice, Italy as the established setting with a young Venetian named Ezio as the main character.

Alas back in November we were using our time machines to cheat on sporting events, rather than grabbing Game Informer early, and we can't go back now, or the universe would collapse.

Right, my bad...

It would be interesting.

From what I have read it takes place in Venice during the Renaissance which took place a few hundred years before the American and French Revolution but did usher in the enlightenment era of thinking which helped inspire both revolutions.

See this for why I think this:
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/143/14302493/vids_1.html

Is it actually in France? I thought it was in Venice...ah well if it's in the french revolution it'd be good that a french company are making a game about killing french people...

The last I heard that it was going to take place during the Italian Renaissance.

rossatdi:

Okay, okay. You take the manly sword and I'll take the poofy pistol. We'll see who wins. IN fact, you take 20 samurai and I'll take 20 riflemen. We'll line up and have a fight.

One guy will miss, and while the gunman reload, the samurai will tear them to ribbons. That's why ninjas used them as sniping weapons (that and the fact that if you hit the guy, you didn't have the 20 armed guards getting all mad at you, because they don't know where you are).

And yes, it's taking place during the Italian Renaissance.

Actually, in another interview (I don't know exactly where to find it, but just google Assassin's Creed 2 and you should find it) one of the devs working on the game reveals that it is set in Italy during the Renaissance. And... Actually, if you have a subscription to Game Informer magazine, then you would also learn when and where Assassin's Creed 2 is set. Which again is, the Italian Renaissance.

Sennz0r:
Ugh,, I can't say I share your enthusiasm on that one Pedro...
I was already moaning when I saw Fable 2 included rifles. Now imagine that plus the French (which I don't like too much anyways, nothing personal), the clothes they wore at that time and the pansy weapons they had to go with it.

I wish they'd go back in time for the sequel for a change. Set it in feudal Japan or ancient China. Somewhere where the civilisations at war at the time fought melee battles with real swordsmen and swords. Not with tights and cannons and guns...

It's true that a man armed with a gun can easily kill a man armed only with a sword. But a man with only a sword can easily kill an unarmed man. Acting as if people who carry swords are tough and people who carry guns are weak is stupid. The only people who have a right to complain about the unfairness of bringing a weapon are the ones who fight with their bare hands.

Remember: The Ronin throughout Fuedal Japan's history would slaughter UNARMED peasants to test the sharpness of their sword. So I quite frankly view that statement as silly. One could just as easily say winning a fight with a Gun takes skill, whereas winning one with a TANK does not.

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