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Press Junketeer  Posts: 357 Joined: 29 Nov 2008     | Maybe if she wasn't a bad parent her daughter wouldn't be a f$$$up. Also if she paid attention to her daughter instead of video games, her daughter wouldn't have any problems.... Duh.. If you are going to pick a fight make sure you have sound reasoning..... |
On the Record  Posts: 5490 Joined: 13 Aug 2008     | Yes, because of course junkies will be spending all their time playing iPhone games while getting high. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3259 Joined: 3 Aug 2008    | That's it, blame the video games again! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1870 Joined: 4 Oct 2007   | I'm sure these games carry a 18 rating or similar depending on the country, 17 year old kids and younger shouldn't be playing them. Parents responsibility to check the age rating of a game before letting their kids play them. Edit: |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1598 Joined: 13 Oct 2008    | Perhaps occasionally checking in on what your children are doing, isn't such a bad idea after all... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1042 Joined: 2 Jul 2008  | Hmm lets see a girl whos been in a coma for what was it again,7 years was it? So I'm betting she hasnt played the game then? So why the fuck are you blaming a game that she hasnt even played?! How about you admit you just couldnt control your own daughter instead of searching for something to blame it on all the time? God,I hate people like this! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1930 Joined: 9 Sep 2008   | So lemme get this straight. Her daughter played Underworld on an iPhone, fell over and has been in a coma for 8 years? If Underworld can make me fall back in time 8 years, I'll take one. Just gotta pin a note to my chest, with all the awesome stuff my past self should know about the future. With a little note on the end, "Don't play Underworld on the iPhone." Just to fuck with causality. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 190 Joined: 10 Sep 2008     | I'm still laughing at the fact that people would actually want to play 'virtual drug dealer.' |
BANNED  Posts: 12958 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 | That actually looks like a fun game. User was banned for: Poll: What is your opinion on the Metal Gear Solid storylines?. (Permanent) |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 982 Joined: 20 Oct 2008   | Impressionable kids, eh? Not my first choice of words. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1094 Joined: 11 Oct 2008     | Ya... she could have... you know... stopped the addict daughter maybe. It's like 100% supporting war but when somebody dies you cry that it's wrong. But I guess it's always easier to blame something else for your own mistakes... it would make more sense if she blamed something... I don't know, other than an iPhone? |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 541 Joined: 16 Aug 2008   |
Exactily my point. If you ask a person why they do drugs 1/1,000,000 times you wont hear"I played a game, saw the action of drug abuse and ran round he corner to get a fix." Stupid ,overprotective ,retared mothers. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2768 Joined: 18 Sep 2007   | Um, excuse me, but how many parents are going to be getting an iPhone for the kid? It ain't exactly cheap to get for a demographic notorious for losing things, and the feature list doesn't really scream "kid-friendly" to me... I think some folks are worrying about the wrong thing here. -- Steve |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1477 Joined: 6 Feb 2008  | not meaning to be insensitive, but her daughter was a junkie who went into a coma when Snake was still considered advanced for a phone game. I don't see impressionable kids turning to drugs when playing what is essentially a colourful Excel spreadsheet. If anything they'd turn to dealing drugs not taking the things. Don't get high off your own supply as they say :-D edit: the mum also seems to be trapped in the past (understandable grief coping mechanism I guess). Her daughter is 25 now not 17. Id hardly call her a 'young person' whether in a coma or not. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 946 Joined: 7 Aug 2008    | My daughter is doing heroin at 17, DAMN VIDEO GAMES! Bad parents make me angry, but bad parents who don't take responsibility make me furious. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2583 Joined: 27 Sep 2008   | Why would an impressionable youngster have an iPhone? |
On the Record Posts: 5490 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 |
Now, hold on, don't call them stupid. It's natural for mothers to be overprotective; it's their instinct. If a mother isn't overprotective, either they are making a conscious decision to back off and fighting their nature, or there's something wrong with them. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 393 Joined: 7 Feb 2008   | I'm sorry, but what the hell? Do you know just how many misguided moms want to ban certain games? This is NOT a news story! |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 800 Joined: 25 Nov 2008  |
I agree. She screwed up raising her daughter and is now taking it out on something totally unrelated to the problem. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1757 Joined: 3 Sep 2008  |
Exactly |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 780 Joined: 7 Jun 2008    | No no no, the mom's right. Mafia.org & Injustice.net.nz & all those other Organized Crime games made me a gun-toting, drug-pushing, money-laundering crimelord, so these videogames do have negative effects on people. Now excuse me, I have to go do a drive-by and buy some premium Colombian. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2824 Joined: 20 Jul 2008     | How could her daughter play if she has been in a coma for the past seven years? |
Beat Writer  Posts: 154 Joined: 9 Nov 2008  | Everyone's kind of hit the nail on the head and hammered it through 17 yards' worth of wood on the whole 'she was a neglectful parent, stop blaming video games, etc.' view (which I agree with, sorry if it sounds like I'm ragging on you guys :c <3 ), but is it okay if I point out that I still think the game is really stupid? I mean...Drug dealing as a game? Bad parents or not, it still presents the IMAGE that game-players only care about murdering people for cars and drugs like they do in the virtual world. Even if the mother's argument is flawed, the gaming company could've at least avoided this by, uh, NOT MAKING A GAME ABOUT DRUG DEALING. It's not even that fun, it kills off all the musicians and TV stars eventually, and it's, well, stupid. :/ |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4343 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 | Really, your own daughter uses drugs irresponsibly and ruins her life and practically kills herself, and you blame videogames? You're her fucking mother! Even if she had a valid argument against videogames, she does not get to make that argument because she has proven much worse than the thing she is fighting against. Not to mention how millions of people play these sorts of videogames, and her daughter "falls victim" to them. You really think the factor is the videogames? It's not. |
Muckraker  Posts: 341 Joined: 15 Jul 2008   | sounds like an awesome game... oh right yeh, drugs...this will convice people to do drugs as much as GTA convinced people to comit Grand Theft Auto and run over old ladies,so everyone will be high soon... |
Anonymous Source Posts: 8 Joined: 8 Feb 2008 | This game looks similar to Dope Wars, and if I remember correctly, Dope Wars really didn't even talk about the drugs much besides the buying and selling prices. It seems,if anything, the game would help kids learn economics. |
BANNED  Posts: 2505 Joined: 19 Aug 2008 | Just blame the video games, even though your daughter was 10 and stupid when she did herion. You shouldn't have allowed her to hang out with people who had herion. Its not the games fault its your daughters fault, stop looking for something to blame and just deal with it. User was banned for: Poll: Round 5 - Field of Four - (1) Turbine vs (1) Nintendo. (Permanent) |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 884 Joined: 19 Sep 2008   | Aunty Ethel calls for a ban on mothers who want to ban games they deem offensive. I played Dope Wars/Drug Lord years and years ago and it never made me try drugs. Peer pressure did that. Ah, good ol' peer pressure. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 391 Joined: 29 Jul 2008   |
lol Niiiiiiiiiiice On-topic: Long answer "Nooooooooo..."
Like mother's milk ... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2440 Joined: 11 Oct 2008   |
Rich family, maybe? Anyways, I can kinda see her point but at the same time kids that would be THAT impressionable shouldn't be playing video games at all anyways. I sympathize because of her daughter, but I doubt she played Heroine Hero and decided to shoot up. Video games aren't to blame... |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 604 Joined: 17 Oct 2007    | I need to pick up this game. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2019 Joined: 25 Jun 2008 | She's not saying that Underworld caused her daughter to OD 7 years ago, she's worried that a game trivialising drug dealing is going to be available for download by lots of young kids with phones, not video games consoles, but phones & iPods, which lots of kids have or will be getting for Christmas. She's doing it in her daughters memory & in the misguided hope that other parents wont have to suffer the same tragedy that she has. I thinks she has a valid point, as anything which trivialises the drug trade & is widely available to impressionable youngsters on phones & MP3 players, and encourages 'social networking of drug dealing' could cause them to have a naive view on the dangers of drugs & make them experiment. It's not just her who have condemned the game, but also leading drugs charities too, who have a lot more credibility than a hysterical mother who splashes her outrage in a Tabloid newspaper. I know gamers have a tendency to be defensive when it comes to attacks on games, but this is different as it's a casual game on phones, and it's a bit harsh to accuse the mother of bad parenting which caused her daughter to experiment with heroin. Drugs are an insidious thing & there are lots of factors beyond a parent's control which can cause someone to experiment with drugs, and with something like Heroin it only takes a person to experiment once for their life to be ruined. I have the best, most loving parents anyone could ask for & I've still taken almost every drug under the sun at one point or another, completely without their knowledge & completely unrelated to whatever values they installed in me. I said she has a valid point, but I also think she's missing the point that kids will still take drugs even if they haven't played this game, it's all part of the trials we face growing up in today's society and the mistakes we make as young adults. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 94 Joined: 24 Oct 2008  | Taking her side for a moment, the game made her child do drugs. This is Columbine all over again. Someone please remind parents of what the job entails! PS |
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Mom Calls For Ban On Underworld
The mother of a comatose junkie is calling for a ban on the new iPhone game Underworld, saying that "impressionable kids" who play the game will end up going down the same road as her daughter.
The game is "outrageous," Thelma Pickard told The Daily Star. "My daughter's life has been ruined by drugs," she said. "If this game is allowed to come out, impressionable kids will play it and Amy's mistake will be repeated over and over again."
"Youngsters like Amy are exactly the people who download and play games like this on their mobiles," she continued. "I just want to help other families avoid the nightmare that's wrecked mine." Amy has been in a coma for the past seven years, which she apparently fell into after experimenting with heroin when she was 17.
In Underworld, players begin as small-time drug pushers, selling their wares to other players from real-world street corners, thanks to the iPhone's GPS capabilities. The game was originally known as Drug Lords, but underwent a name change last week to appease censors at Apple's App Store. The game will be free and will work with all generations of the iPhone and iPod Touch, although Wi-Fi is required for play.
"Outrageous" it may be, but it's also nothing more than the latest update of a game that first debuted almost 25 years ago, back in the days when DOS ruled the world. Underworld may add some cool new features, but the basic premise remains the same: Rule the roost by becoming a successful drug dealer. A similar complaint was made earlier this year about the drug-dealing mini-game in the upcoming Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, but objections to both games overlook one simple fact: Drug Wars and its many descendants have been around for a generation, and the Apocalypse has yet to come. (They're fun to play, too.)
To learn more about Underworld, have a look at the developer's web site at a-steroids.com.
(Thanks to GamePolitics for the hook-up.)
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