This ain't exactly a crime, per se, but it is rather, uh... Disturbing, at the very least....

Indigo_Dingo:

Liverandbacon:
Well there goes 99% of Hentai.

Thank God.

Except for that Guro stuff. Its illegal, but there wouldn't be any way to prosecute the holders, because as soon as you look at it, you are driven mad.

I don't know what Guro is, and I don't want to. Seriously, some people have the most bizarre taste imaginable.

COR 2000:
This ain't exactly a crime, per se, but it is rather, uh... Disturbing, at the very least....

Well it should be, that's just so wrong on so many levels.

PedroSteckecilo:

"Pedophiles" I am defining it as anyone who is aroused by children are just the extreme end of a youth fixation, and we are ALL attracted you youth. There is some thinking that you cannot actively control your sexual kinks and preferences, they're ingrained in your psychology.

there's a difference tho. most normal guys, women are a bit different in this respect, are attracted to younger ppl they also find ppl in their age range attractive and sexually desirable. most pedophiles don't, they are a more twisted form of being closeted.

as for the topic on hand, it's gone too far and has some VERY bad implications, i'm at least glad i don't live in austrailia

Dechef:

COR 2000:
This ain't exactly a crime, per se, but it is rather, uh... Disturbing, at the very least....

Well it should be, that's just so wrong on so many levels.

Like I said, It's not much of a crime, since the "Victims" aren't even real, but it's definitely gross and I don't condone it whatsoever. Maybe the fines are a lil' too harsh, though.....

how the hell do you get busted for somthing like this?

Having pictures of underage CARTOON children is illegal? If you excuse me I have some files to delete. *cough* I mean, no children are being hurt from this. I thought that was why child porn was illegal. Is there another reason I'm not aware of?

k3v1n:
cartoon porn doesn't hurt anybody..maybe he's got a fetiche(sp?) for the simpsons..alright alright so it's a bit disturbing but it's not a goddamn crime

it could be worse I mean, he could have real child pornography

Or you know, he could be FUCKING CHILDREN! But he's not, is he? IS HE????

Great. Now we have to lock up Japan. I'm not saying they don't have it coming, but it is going to be a bitch to squeeze them into an even smaller space.

Well, at least in Australia, it's just some weird interpretaton of the word "person" (does Scrooge McDuck pay income tax in Australia? Then again, is there any income tax in Australia?)

In other countries - including this one - art depictions and writings that *could* be considered child pornography will soon be outlawed too, porn with actors who simply pretend to be underage count as well. So the next time you see some mid 20 actress with pigtails in action, make some extra coffee for the friendly police officers and the nice chat you will have with them after gotten beaten to pulp for being a dirty pedophile.

Don't make the mistake to think it is to protect children - it isn't. Most governments don't give a shit about children as can be seen in these same countries cracking down on child pornography by the dwindling education budgets, ailing schools, constant cut down on publicly funded youth activities and daycare centers and the overall missing financial incentive to even have children in the first place. This is purely an publicity stunt by politicians, cause everyone agrees child pornography is bad and making brain dead laws is easier and cheaper then all of the above to win voters. And everyone will agree cause a politician or party pointing out the absurdity of that will be smeared as contributing to child abuse.

As for the matter at hand, this is just plain retardation. No one is directly or indirectly harmed in the slightest by this cartoon and while it's certainly not tasteful, eating shit and drinking urine isn't either and isn't outlawed yet. Someones personal perversions shouldn't be anyone's business unless someone was harmed directly or indirectly in the process. Sure, there is this whole "today's cartoon pedophiles are tomorrows real pedophiles" angle, however this bounds on thought crime and incarcerating people because of their ethnicity or head shape and I somehow hoped we would be over that and learned from out past mistakes.

There is no depths of darkness that are not seen by mans desires..

I'm not sure conventional man's desires fall into that category. Guro doesn't sound particularly arousing. It's probably more of a horror spectacle thing. But then, if people can get off to Scat Porn, I guess they can get off to anything.

According to Wikipedia's Ero Guro entry, the movement for dismembered human artwork was actually prominent in about the 1920s-1930s, and is consequently out of style. However, the interesting thing is us Westerners tend to be fascinated about all the skeletons in Japan's closet, to the point where some of us might feign arousal out of ignorance. Hentai works in Japan are generally looked down upon with scorn, I suspect the silly U.S. purchasers support it even more than Japan does.

Indigo_Dingo:
From the horror stores I've heard off the net.... Imagine a pre-teen anime girl. Now imagine her naked. Now imagine her on a table saw with her arms partly sawn off. There is no depths of darkness that are not seen by mans desires...

Excuse me while I throw up...

I think we can agree that regardless of legality (and child porn of any sort is deplorable and should be illegal in all forms) nobody really wants to think about this too much.

HalfShadow:
Wimp.

Oh yeah? You wanna take this outside?

It was a mental throw up. I need to purge my mind of the image put there.

OMG It's Illegal? *removes browsing history and washes hands*
No but I mean is chill out it doesn't eally matter next they'll try to throw you in jail for looking at adult movies.It will never end the Austrailian goverment has gone to shit in a handbasket in the last 12 years.

Hentai is gross? What, you mean you don't like tentacle rape?

I was going to say the two were legal, but The Simpson's premiered in '89. In 7 years,I hope someone goes for that argument.

Hentai is just wierd IMHO, but to each there own. If I watch porn, its just standard guy on girl fucking, none of this animals and torture and whatnot. BTW, if you get off on death and mutilation, I recommend the game Fallout 3 as it has lots of that and you can do it to women or men, whichever you prefer to see blown to bits for your sick pleasure :P

Australians didn't use to be such [p/w]ussies...

That. Was. Disgusting.
Child pornography is wrong, even if they aren't real.
Being attracted to a child who is far from developing his/her reproductive organs is just sick.
Bart and Lisa are closer to puberty than most child pornography entails, but not by much.

Its a cartoon... Australian govt is a bunch of over hyped inbred assholes who make even the most right wing american seem sane.
Honestly man, you guys were a nation of criminals and now you have some of the strictest laws around. Its pathetic. Just for this im going to get simpsons, jetsons, flintstones AND winnie the pooh porn in retaliation!
Btw its really funny to me considering from what I have heard, people are using age regression software to make porn stars look like children to cater to the pedo crowd without children getting hurt. And that is not legally child porn as the original person is of age. Yet a fucking cartoon who has been 8 for the past 25 years is...

Wow, rule 34 screwed this guy badly.

Just plain weird, that's all I have to say.

ArKaiN123:
This is bullshit. What if he drew the image on his napkin? What if he thought about it? I'm sure we've all imagined perverted things at one time or another. If you think you haven't, allow me to post this picture:
http://i35.tinypic.com/2q8pzxw.jpg
Yeah. See you all in hell.

I totally agree with you. I'll admit I've been turned on by girls who are 16 or 17. I mean I didn't outright fap to them, that would be a little weird on the bus but it's not wrong to be aroused by this. One of the reasons it works for arousal is because it's a taboo.

I'm 22 by the way, I just find it dumb that I could go to jail for dating a 17 year old who is willingly dating me. You got 40 year olds dating 20 year olds all the time it's a bit ludicrous.

Hell I've heard cases where someone turns 18 and they end up going to jail because their mate didn't turn 18 quite when they did. It's really dumb. Instead of cracking down on people who are willingly partnered with each other they should focus all those wasted resources on actual sexual predators.

"Justice Michael Adams concluding a fictional cartoon character is a "person" within the meaning of Commonwealth and NSW laws."

With these idiot judges ruling that a cartoon character is a 'person', then an artist drawing somone being killed, by definition of their law IS a murderer, just as they would say the person drawing the simpsons porn would be producing child porn.

This also means that, by Australia's definition of the law, Seth McFarlane could be arrested for producing/distributing/posessing child porn because of stewie being sexualy abused my Lois in one of his fantasies where he was burned with a cigarette while she was in S&M gear. Same for the Simpsons creators themselves who showed bart's 10 year old johnson in the movie, showing Australia has no sense of irony either.

Not to mention this deminishes the severity of REAL child abuse, and diverts resources and money away from the real thing with law enforcement chasing after cartoons, which makes them and their justice system a joke too.

Things get muddy when you try to apply real world laws to things that don't exist, and these idiot perverted justice types end up labeling innocent people with these serious charges as they keep broadening definitions. Where do you draw the line, some of you shrill alarmists might ask. You draw it between what IS REAL and what IS NOT REAL.

I've seen a few people post the logic that since the Simpsons cartoon is so old, it's okay to have erotic Bart and Lisa pics. However, you need to bear in mind that these aren't grown up Bart and Lisa pics. It's a bit like trying to argue that it's okay to get off at pictures that were taken of 6-year-olds while they were being sexually exploited because they grew up and are 20 years old now.

That said, the main question is in regards to whether or not a drawing of a fictitious character counts as pedophilia. Apparently, this Australian judge thought so.

But

geldonyetich:
That said, the main question is in regards to whether or not a drawing of a fictitious character counts as pedophilia. Apparently, this Australian judge thought do.

But fiction and drawings/art is subjective. I've seen feminine looking anime guys that I thought were hot, I admit and I had the opportunity of getting laughed at by friends when I realized Bridgett wasn't really a girl when he/she was first introduced in the games... but that doesn't mean anything because I don't find real life guys hot, nor am I gay/bi, and because they are drawings and renderings that don't represent reality even when based on things that ARE real.