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Jared Rea
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Adult-on-Adult Violence Plagues Chuck E. Cheese's

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The first rule of Chuck E. Cheese's is you do not talk about Chuck E. Cheese's. And if this is your first "Pizza Time Players" concert, you have to fight.

To most decent, civilized human beings, Chuck E. Cheese's is a place where one can take their spawn out for a night of skee-ball, animatronic nightmares and a protein-based food substance that is referred to only as "pizza," but your stomach tells you otherwise. Truly, it is a place where a kid can be a kid. Unless of course, you find yourself at Chuck E. Cheese's located in the Mid-West where law-enforcement officials are dealing with a rash of violence erupting from the family oriented pizza parlors and no, it's not because little Jimmy couldn't respect the token line.

In Brookfield, Wisconsin, no restaurant in the city has received more calls to the police department in the last year than good ol' Chuck E. Cheese's. Of the 12 altercations that officers have had to respond to, the biggest brawl occurred in April 2008 when no less than 40 people were involved in a massive free-for-all. What's worse is that according to Brookfield Police Captain, Timothy Imler, "There's a biker bar down the street, and we rarely get calls there."

Chuck E. Cheese's, which was founded in 1977 by industry legend Nolan Bushnell, has gone from a single location in San Jose, California, to 538 locations across the US. Richard Huston, executive vice president of marketing for the chain's parent company, CEC Entertainment, claims that these types of altercations are "atypical," saying that he's only heard of four to five significant incidents between parents this year, though law-enforcement officials in certain parts of the country say otherwise. Huston realizes the danger possessed by these incidents, saying "Even one is just way too many."

What's to blame for the outbreak in "Cool Chuck" related violence? Security experts point to the "mama-bear instinct," as the loud noises, thick crowds and emotions of children's birthday parties (hosted by the establishments) heighten parents reactions to what they see as threats to their children. Alcohol may also be to blame as 70% of Chuck E. Cheese's serve wine and beer in order to give parents more of a reason to bring their kids for a good time.

In the case of Brookfield, Wisconsin, Chuck E. Cheese's has surrendered their liquor license and has placed armed security guards within the establishment. Milwaukee Alderman Tony Zielinski, who originally called for the relinquishing of the restaurants liquor license isn't particularly happy about that either, saying "It was like something out of a Quentin Tarantino film. What parent is going to take their kids to a place where there is alcohol and pistols being brandished?"

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Khell_Sennet
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I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

meatloaf231
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Khell_Sennet:
I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

Since when is a private establishment required to do anything for anyone other than their paying customers? If they want to refuse you service because you don't have a child with you, that's their right to do so.

L.B. Jeffries
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Khell_Sennet:
I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

If you make reservations and bring a large enough crowd, they'll waive the kid requirement and let you have an adult party.

It's funny, for some reason crazy crap is always happening at these places. There was a massacre in one a couple years back and the cops said it was like some awful macabre scene from a movie. The Bear Band was jamming away and there were corpses all over the place.

Must be the long line to the ball pit.

sv93
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I can't stand Chuck 'E' Cheese, it is the worst place in the world. You need to pay a bloody quarter for each token and then you can get a max of like 10 tickets a token, with the occasional chance of getting maybe 50 or 60. Each prize thats any good still sucks and is like 100 tickets.

Khell_Sennet
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meatloaf231:

Khell_Sennet:
I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

Since when is a private establishment required to do anything for anyone other than their paying customers? If they want to refuse you service because you don't have a child with you, that's their right to do so.

Actually, not true. Age discrimination is illegal, had I done something, then they could refuse to serve me personally, but to disallow anyone over 18 who is not accompanying a child is illegal.

Cousin_IT
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Chuck E. Cheese...sounds like the name of a clown whose gimmick is throwing up partially digested milk.

meatloaf231
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Khell_Sennet:
Actually, not true. Age discrimination is illegal, had I done something, then they could refuse to serve me personally, but to disallow anyone over 18 who is not accompanying a child is illegal.

Hrm... Well, I don't really have the determination to go digging through laws and policies, so I guess I'll take your word for it on the whole refusal or service thing. Hooray!

Ice Storm
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L.B. Jeffries:
It's funny, for some reason crazy crap is always happening at these places. There was a massacre in one a couple years back and the cops said it was like some awful macabre scene from a movie. The Bear Band was jamming away and there were corpses all over the place.

Woah, link? I want to read more about this.

Jimmyjames
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Khell_Sennet:
I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

Being that teenagers can be blathering idiots, I don't blame them (not that you're a teen for all I know, but I'm sure that's why they made the rule). And I'm not sure I'd be too cool with seeing some random 40-year-old in a Chuck E. Cheese.

BTW- for all those single with little brothers/sisters/nieces/nephews.... take them to Chuck E. Cheeses during weekday afternoons..... single MILF cougars like you wouldn't believe. In fact the C.E.C. on Arden in Sacramento, CA in particular... there were always stripper moms in there.

L.B. Jeffries
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Ice Storm:

L.B. Jeffries:
It's funny, for some reason crazy crap is always happening at these places. There was a massacre in one a couple years back and the cops said it was like some awful macabre scene from a movie. The Bear Band was jamming away and there were corpses all over the place.

Woah, link? I want to read more about this.

I know I made a joke but...it's really an awful and sad story.

http://www.5280.com/issues/2008/0812/feature.php?pageID=1486

Ice Storm
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L.B. Jeffries:

Ice Storm:

L.B. Jeffries:
It's funny, for some reason crazy crap is always happening at these places. There was a massacre in one a couple years back and the cops said it was like some awful macabre scene from a movie. The Bear Band was jamming away and there were corpses all over the place.

Woah, link? I want to read more about this.

I know I made a joke but...it's really an awful and sad story.

http://www.5280.com/issues/2008/0812/feature.php?pageID=1486

Wow, that's messed up and a sad story to hear. Thanks for the link, Jeffries.

Nimbus
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Khell_Sennet:

meatloaf231:

Khell_Sennet:
I'm tempted to start a fight with the staff of Chuck'E'Cheese... They won't let non-children parties celebrate there. By law, they are a restaurant and legally have to serve me, but they won't let adults in the door without a kid.

Since when is a private establishment required to do anything for anyone other than their paying customers? If they want to refuse you service because you don't have a child with you, that's their right to do so.

Actually, not true. Age discrimination is illegal, had I done something, then they could refuse to serve me personally, but to disallow anyone over 18 who is not accompanying a child is illegal.

I'm pulling a bit of a tl;dr on this thread, but whatever happend to "Right to refuse service to anyone"?

EDIT: Did some digging.

"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or natural origin."

I don't see age there.

Zomni42
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This is severely fucked up. I mean, how could that place not mess with your mind.. but Holy crap... this is just awful.

cleverlymadeup
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Khell_Sennet:

Actually, not true. Age discrimination is illegal, had I done something, then they could refuse to serve me personally, but to disallow anyone over 18 who is not accompanying a child is illegal.

actually that's wrong because you can be refused entry into a bar based on your age or lack of proof of your age, this is just the reverse of it. same goes for the "women only" fitness clubs

Khell_Sennet
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Nimbus:
EDIT: Did some digging.

"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or natural origin."

I don't see age there.

Age is in Canada's law. It doesn't apply to minors, you can still discriminate/restrict under-18's, but past that, it's discrimination in Canada. As such, legally the seniors menu is open to all ages of adult to order from, not just 55's+.

Edit: @ Cleverly, with regards to alcohol and tobacco, it is an exception to the law that if you can't prove your age, they not only can, but must refuse sale.

zoozilla
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Between this and the Wal-Mart employee getting trampled to death, I think we've made pretty good fools of ourselves.

Nimbus
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Khell_Sennet:

Nimbus:
EDIT: Did some digging.

"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or natural origin."

I don't see age there.

Age is in Canada's law. It doesn't apply to minors, you can still discriminate/restrict under-18's, but past that, it's discrimination in Canada. As such, legally the seniors menu is open to all ages of adult to order from, not just 55's+.

Edit: @ Cleverly, with regards to alcohol and tobacco, it is an exception to the law that if you can't prove your age, they not only can, but must refuse sale.

I thought this was about America?

Khell_Sennet
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Nimbus:
I thought this was about America?

No, I thought it was about Chuck'E'Cheese. We have em up here too.

beddo
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What on earth is Chuck'E'Cheese?

thebobmaster
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beddo:
What on earth is Chuck'E'Cheese?

A pizza joint/kid place.

Johnn Johnston
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It serves pizza? I thought it was just a chain of fight clubs. All I've ever heard about Chuck. E. Cheese's is huge melees breaking out for no discernable reason.

TsunamiWombat
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Oh i'm sorry, I thought thish was America. Thish isn't America? Thish is America!

DonPauliani
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ha, the title did enough humor for me today. Now I have to go play Max Payne and brood.

Fragamoo
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I'm so glad we don't get these 'restaurants' in England.

xitel
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My brother actually broke his tooth in half on a piece of Chuck E. Cheese's pizza. There was a rock in the crust and when he bit down his tooth snapped in half.

PsyberGoth
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Man, the world is screwed up these days

Dommyboy
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Dang. That ere' Chuck E. Cheese's place been nothin' but trouble since it opened. Always housing for the riff raff and they shay video gamesh are bad for us, bah!

I don't think there are any Chuck E. Cheese setups in Australia though I haven't been to the big capital cities a lot to fully know.

What's to blame for the outbreak in "Cool Chuck" related violence? Security experts point to the "mama-bear instinct," as the loud noises, thick crowds and emotions of children's birthday parties (hosted by the establishments) heighten parents reactions to what they see as threats to their children. Alcohol may also be to blame as 70% of Chuck E. Cheese's serve wine and beer in order to give parents more of a reason to bring their kids for a good time.

Why don't they just give the parents a free weapon of choice upon entering why they're at it?

 
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