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Less than a week after it launched, reports are coming in that users have hacked Home, Sony's virtual world for the PlayStation 3. Yeah, that really was quick, wasn't it?

A report in the Telegraph says vulnerabilities in the code have allowed enterprising Home users to customize the online world beyond the basic options provided by Sony. One hack makes use of the Apache web server and DNS redirection to allow users to play movies on virtual display screens and to change in-world text and music to anything they want. Users can employ a different hack to download any files they want from the Sony server, including the profiles and avatars of other users.

Of greater risk, however, is the ability to upload files to, or delete files from, Sony's Home servers. The report says such vulnerabilities expose Home users to viruses and other malicious software, and also leaves Home itself open to attacks which could force it offline. The report suggests Sony may open the platform to legitimate third-party development to provide an official and controlled channel for such "tweaking," and also to help build a more robust Home "ecosystem."

Bit-tech.net says advertisements in Home have been specifically targeted by hackers who have replaced standard posters with images of their own, providing a link to YouTube footage that purports to show the results of one such hack. Instructions for this "easily repeatable" mod have been posted online, but you'll have to find them for yourself, you dirty hacker.

Home went into open beta on December 11, and was immediately attacked for being outdated by Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg, who said, "When they unveiled it, it seemed innovative. I think what's happened is now here we are a couple of years later and we feel beyond that. It feels like 2005 tech in 2008. I'm not sure that's what people want."

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Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

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Now, I read a bit about this the other day.

My point (question?) is that with the method used, won't only the content on that user's PS3 be changed? Like, they might be able to change the trailers/posters etc, but whats the point if noone else can see it? It is however one step towards full out hackage.

That's just my take on it anyways. If anyones got a more in depth knowledge of this (I don't have a PS3), then please feel free to correct me.

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DamienHell:
Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

lolololololololol.....

But yeah, it's not that surprising, Home was kinda doomed the moment it became old news, like that MMO that took forever to bring out and when it did was utter crap and was unplayable because of glitches... I forget what it's called.

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zee666:

DamienHell:
Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

lolololololololol.....

But yeah, it's not that surprising, Home was kinda doomed the moment it became old news, like that MMO that took forever to bring out and when it did was utter crap and was unplayable because of glitches... I forget what it's called.

Age of Conan?

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I'm more curious as to 'why'? Why would you want to hack this? Why would you want to risk screwing up your system, getting banned, spending the time, etc...to put movies on yet even a smaller virtual screen within your made up room?

Is Sony this boring where as PS3 users resort to menial hacks now to entertain themselves because the games don't?

Is it bragging rights? "Oh..Oh..Look at me...I changed the music in my virtual home."

Er...okay.

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for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

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DamienHell:

zee666:

DamienHell:
Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

lolololololololol.....

But yeah, it's not that surprising, Home was kinda doomed the moment it became old news, like that MMO that took forever to bring out and when it did was utter crap and was unplayable because of glitches... I forget what it's called.

Age of Conan?

No, I think he is talking about Tabula Rasa...

Also:
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DamienHell:

zee666:

DamienHell:
Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

lolololololololol.....

But yeah, it's not that surprising, Home was kinda doomed the moment it became old news, like that MMO that took forever to bring out and when it did was utter crap and was unplayable because of glitches... I forget what it's called.

Age of Conan?

No, it was sci-fiey....

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Who cares about Home? I've got a PS3 and decided to give it a try. I got on, stood around, danced for a bit and left. It's got tons of things it needs to do before it's legitimately interesting. Good thing you don't have to use it.

Maybe these hackers will give Sony some good ideas.

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DangerChimp:
Who cares about Home? I've got a PS3 and decided to give it a try. I got on, stood around, danced for a bit and left. It's got tons of things it needs to do before it's legitimately interesting. Good thing you don't have to use it.

Maybe these hackers will give Sony some good ideas.

Look a gift-horse in the mouth often? Home is free. Like you said, no one is forcing you to use it.

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Rezfon:
for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything.

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Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything.

I've heard of "interesting" and home isn't it, fanboy. I am a nerd that likes games, I'll give you that. However, I'm not a pathetic nerd who has to live my life through a fake world with other pathetic nerds. One IGN editor referred to home as "the biggest mistake Sony has ever made". With consoles, I totally agree. An utter waste of time and money. I don't think Second Life types play consoles so much. There is no cyber sex. =)

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Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything.

yes I do know what a QA test is. Quality assurance is done by hired employees and is in a development stage well before Beta tests. Considering I've done Higher Computing, Advanced Higher Computing (equivilent of first year UNI) and currently studying Bsc Computing at Abertay Uni, I think I know a bit more about the development process than you do as I actually had to do it!

I can tell your a fanboy down to how you try and defend Home with your previous posts with vigor, so no matter what I say you will still try and defend it. What I was saying is that with a development time they've had and previous experience in the industry, these sorts of problems should have been sorted well before they released the beta. The large majority of problems are sorted before beta, most are found in the QA tests as these are done by people who know what they are doing. There are also alot of other tests done before the QA testers manage to get it, eg module testing and many other tests done after. The development stages are also iterative so it is being constantly tested. Coupled with their previous experience they should have the prior knowledge to make sure these sorts of things don't happen.

With the large number of problems and severity of them, they had no reason to not fix this before they released the beta. Considering it costs actual money to buy extra items and people can hack and download other people's profiles this proves quite a big problem.

So yes, I know what beta tests and QA tests are, problems do slip by however the sorts of problems presented here are far too numerous and severe to not notice.

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DamienHell:
Not surprising, the game has more issues than an emo kid.

HAHAHA, NICE!!!

Agreed though. I'm not interested in Home at all. Seems a bit too much like Second Life for me.

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Yatrix:

Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything.

I've heard of "interesting" and home isn't it, fanboy. I am a nerd that likes games, I'll give you that. However, I'm not a pathetic nerd who has to live my life through a fake world with other pathetic nerds. One IGN editor referred to home as "the biggest mistake Sony has ever made". With consoles, I totally agree. An utter waste of time and money. I don't think Second Life types play consoles so much. There is no cyber sex. =)

The self confessed nerd calling the other nerd a bigger nerd...

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Jimmyjames:

DangerChimp:
Who cares about Home? I've got a PS3 and decided to give it a try. I got on, stood around, danced for a bit and left. It's got tons of things it needs to do before it's legitimately interesting. Good thing you don't have to use it.

Maybe these hackers will give Sony some good ideas.

Look a gift-horse in the mouth often? Home is free. Like you said, no one is forcing you to use it.

Valid point. But the fact that it's free doesn't mean it shouldn't be good. If they're not after making this gift horse a good one, then why make it at all?

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Not very surprising, new products generally have problems. I don't think it should have that many problems though.

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How tough is it for people to opt out of Home? Is it a separate application that needs to be invoked, or does it automatically launch when the PS3 connects to the network?

The reason I ask is that it may be a problem for Sony if it proves difficult for users to avoid unsigned (and possibly malicious) content over their service. I hope they've got some good filters or something backstopping Home, or that at least those of the paranoid persuasion can choose to stay off of it.

-- Steve

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Anton P. Nym:
How tough is it for people to opt out of Home? Is it a separate application that needs to be invoked, or does it automatically launch when the PS3 connects to the network?

The reason I ask is that it may be a problem for Sony if it proves difficult for users to avoid unsigned (and possibly malicious) content over their service. I hope they've got some good filters or something backstopping Home, or that at least those of the paranoid persuasion can choose to stay off of it.

-- Steve

I think that Home is accessed through the cross-media bar menu thing that pops up when you start your PS3. However, I think that the release version will be compulsory, and anyone connected to the PSN will have it downloaded automatically (probably as part of an update).

Sony would probably force PS3 users to go into Home at least once (go through he process of making an avatar etc.) much in the same way 360 users were forced to create an avatar when the NXE update rolled around. So going into it at least once will most likely be unavoidable. I may be wrong, though. That's just how I think it would work out.

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Rezfon:
Considering I've done Higher Computing, Advanced Higher Computing (equivilent of first year UNI) and currently studying Bsc Computing at Abertay Uni, I think I know a bit more about the development process than you do as I actually had to do it!

I can tell your a fanboy down to how you try and defend Home with your previous posts with vigor, so no matter what I say you will still try and defend it.

Yeah, so I've got a Bsc in Product Design (aka engineering) and I work in the game industry, so lah-dee-dah. And I know the correct usage of your/you're so THERE.

Why does the fact that I enjoy Home make me a "fanboy"? Because I enjoy it? I like the fact that I can jump on and meet other gamers from all over the country, so sue me. My friend list went from 10 to 50 overnight. Yeah, I think it's fun, and a great FREE product. It has it's problems, but so does every other social network.

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Yatrix:
I've heard of "interesting" and home isn't it, fanboy.

An utter waste of time and money. I don't think Second Life types play consoles so much. There is no cyber sex. =)

Not interesting to you, maybe. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

And about the "nerd" thing, pot- meet kettle.

Yatrix:
I'm not a pathetic nerd who has to live my life through a fake world with other pathetic nerds.

Hahaha, what do you think this board is about?

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Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
Considering I've done Higher Computing, Advanced Higher Computing (equivilent of first year UNI) and currently studying Bsc Computing at Abertay Uni, I think I know a bit more about the development process than you do as I actually had to do it!

I can tell your a fanboy down to how you try and defend Home with your previous posts with vigor, so no matter what I say you will still try and defend it.

Yeah, so I've got a Bsc in Product Design (aka engineering) and I work in the game industry, so lah-dee-dah. And I know the correct usage of your/you're so THERE.

Why does the fact that I enjoy Home make me a "fanboy"? Because I enjoy it? I like the fact that I can jump on and meet other gamers from all over the country, so sue me. My friend list went from 10 to 50 overnight. Yeah, I think it's fun, and a great FREE product. It has it's problems, but so does every other social network.

Your a fanboy because you haven't been able to accept the tiniest piece of criticism towards your product/company of choice. You have argued against several other members which just makes it appear that you are a fanboy.

Also having a degree in Product Design does not qualify you to know about software development. They are two completely different areas of work. If you did infact know about software development then you would know how my statements about how they should have already sorted this out a long time ago to be true. If you challenge me about software development then I will reply obviously. So please don't reply unless you have some conclusive evidence to prove me wrong, otherwise I'll stick to my specialty and you stick to yours.

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Rezfon:
Your a fanboy because you haven't been able to accept the tiniest piece of criticism towards your product/company of choice. You have argued against several other members which just makes it appear that you are a fanboy.

Also having a degree in Product Design does not qualify you to know about software development. They are two completely different areas of work. If you did infact know about software development then you would know how my statements about how they should have already sorted this out a long time ago to be true. If you challenge me about software development then I will reply obviously. So please don't reply unless you have some conclusive evidence to prove me wrong, otherwise I'll stick to my specialty and you stick to yours.

Just to set the record straight, YOU started arguing with me, bud. Why don't you go reread my original post and tell me what about it was so fanboy worthy, other than my general defense of it. I'll defend something I like, end of story.

My degree isn't what makes me knowledgeable about game development, it's the three years I've worked closely with designers and artists in the game industry. Alpha is art and feature lock, beta is final QA. You don't know anything about me, so don't presume you know more.

:::EDIT::: I'm not saying I know more about software engineering as you, but I know plenty about the development process:::

As for "conclusive evidence".... lighten the hell up.

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From the reports I've heard, Home almost sounds better this way. Shame though, it might have been good had Sony put anything interesting in it.

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DamienHell:
the game

I'm almost certain Home isn't a game. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
Your a fanboy because you haven't been able to accept the tiniest piece of criticism towards your product/company of choice. You have argued against several other members which just makes it appear that you are a fanboy.

Also having a degree in Product Design does not qualify you to know about software development. They are two completely different areas of work. If you did infact know about software development then you would know how my statements about how they should have already sorted this out a long time ago to be true. If you challenge me about software development then I will reply obviously. So please don't reply unless you have some conclusive evidence to prove me wrong, otherwise I'll stick to my specialty and you stick to yours.

Just to set the record straight, YOU started arguing with me, bud. Why don't you go reread my original post and tell me what about it was so fanboy worthy, other than my general defense of it. I'll defend something I like, end of story.

My degree isn't what makes me knowledgeable about game development, it's the three years I've worked closely with designers and artists in the game industry. Alpha is art and feature lock, beta is final QA. You don't know anything about me, so don't presume you know more.

As for "conclusive evidence".... lighten the hell up.

here's your original post, which was a quote of my first one "IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything", using capitals is a sure way to make yourself enemies as you are obviously distraught at what was said. You also carried this sort of behaviour and defense on other peoples posts.

As I said before, software development is different from product design, therefore our testing iterations are different. The problems presented in the topic are not product design faults, they are software development problems. Designers and artists will not give you an insight into the software development problems shown here.

You started by questioning my comment then going onto spewing your fanboyish comments about others aswell. From this I can see that you are the one that needs to lighten up, especially when I had only said that due to the long development time, these sorts of problems should have never been in the public beta.

Just leave it

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Novajam:
Sony would probably force PS3 users to go into Home at least once (go through he process of making an avatar etc.) much in the same way 360 users were forced to create an avatar when the NXE update rolled around. So going into it at least once will most likely be unavoidable. I may be wrong, though. That's just how I think it would work out.

Nope, completely wrong to my knowledge atleast. If you want to get into home, click the icon on the XMB and then you set up everything for HOME. As far as I know, they don't force you to go into HOME. It's not like it's the "New Playstation Experience!" or anything.

And I would like to just say to the actual article;

No shit Sherlock?

Obviously someone was going to hack HOME eventually. As for HOME itself, it's alright to say the least. I really don't know why everyone gets their panties is a huge twist over it, it's an application, end of story. Not something you do every day for 2 hours, maybe once or twice a week for 30 or so minutes to keep you occupied.

While, it does get boring after a while, obviously there are going to be updates and general content updates coming in the future.

It's a nice application, and I'm glad it's atleast something different.

ElArabDeMagnifico:

DamienHell:
the game

I'm almost certain Home isn't a game. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I dunno, I heard it was some sort of....app-li...appli...aplic...oh damnit, I can't pronounce it for the life of it, but I did hear that it was something else.

Dunno what the hell it could be though...

Oh wait, I said it in my own post;

It's a nice application, and I'm glad it's atleast something different.

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Rezfon:
As I said before, software development is different from product design, therefore our testing iterations are different. The problems presented in the topic are not product design faults, they are software development problems. Designers and artists will not give you an insight into the software development problems shown here.

You started by questioning my comment then going onto spewing your fanboyish comments about others aswell. From this I can see that you are the one that needs to lighten up, especially when I had only said that due to the long development time, these sorts of problems should have never been in the public beta.

Just leave it

Ok, then how about you being a little less sensitive? Especially about capital letters. I type how I inflect, and I'm an expressive person. They're just capital letters. Deal.

What part of me working in the games industry do not understand? Regardless of my degree, and designing products, does this not make me even a *little* knowledgeable?

I should leave it because you say so? Why don't you stop talking down to me and maybe I won't feel the need to defend myself.

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Jimmyjames:

Ok, then how about you being a little less sensitive? Especially about capital letters. I type how I inflect, and I'm an expressive person. They're just capital letters. Deal.

What part of me working in the games industry do not understand? Regardless of my degree, and designing products, does this not make me even a *little* knowledgeable?

I should leave it because you say so? Why don't you stop talking down to me and maybe I won't feel the need to defend myself.

all I had said is that these problems should have never made it into the beta based on my experience. Thats all I had wanted to say. I felt that when you made that quote I could try reason with you to show why I felt this way. Obviously the whole thing has got out of hand, as I've been part of this I feel I should say sorry for being rather harsh and brash, sorry for it getting this far as I could have just left it completely.

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Rezfon:
Obviously the whole thing has got out of hand, as I've been part of this I feel I should say sorry for being rather harsh and brash, sorry for it getting this far as I could have just left it completely.

Myself as well. I appreciate the apology and offer my own. No hard feelings.

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Home: Sony's answer to Internet Explorer.

Seriously, does this surprise anyone? It was bound to have issues since it was only in Beta Release. There were going to be smart-arses taking advantages of the vulnerabilities in the software.

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Jimmyjames:

Yatrix:
I've heard of "interesting" and home isn't it, fanboy.

An utter waste of time and money. I don't think Second Life types play consoles so much. There is no cyber sex. =)

Not interesting to you, maybe. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

And about the "nerd" thing, pot- meet kettle.

Yatrix:
I'm not a pathetic nerd who has to live my life through a fake world with other pathetic nerds.

Hahaha, what do you think this board is about?

Dip meet shit. I called myself a nerd, moron. So, Pot meet kettle seems a bit redundant and obvious, doesn't it? Jeez, dude. Are you retarded? Of course it's not interesting to me - I just said that. Of course it may interesting to others, and I believe I pigeonholed that group, didn't I? Do you just take what everyone says, change it a bit, and repost it as if you're insightful? Just. Quit. Talking. Your AIM BBWs are IM'ing you, go answer them.

Commenting on a topic and living your life through a sim are a bit different. Think about it. Just looking over the thread for about 30 seconds, I see you've commented about 200x. I don't really need to say what side of the fence you fall on. Enjoy home. I hope you meet a nice virtual girl and get a nice fake apt together.

You win, man. I lowered myself to your level and actually responded giving you another reason to live via retort. Enjoy.

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Yatrix:

Jimmyjames:

Rezfon:
for having such a long development time and past experiences surely they should have sorted this sort of thing before they released it.

IT'S STILL BETA. It's out PRECISELY to find exploits and fix before final release. Ever heard of QA? Well, they can't always find everything.

I've heard of "interesting" and home isn't it, fanboy. I am a nerd that likes games, I'll give you that. However, I'm not a pathetic nerd who has to live my life through a fake world with other pathetic nerds. One IGN editor referred to home as "the biggest mistake Sony has ever made". With consoles, I totally agree. An utter waste of time and money. I don't think Second Life types play consoles so much. There is no cyber sex. =)

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The nerd pointing out the obvious about the nerd calling the other a nerd...

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Wow, that's fast.
And bad.

what if you could get a virus in your PS3 and you wouldn't be able to do anything with it?
that would suck

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