A Link Between Worlds Is Not a Sequel, But Not a Remake Either

A Link Between Worlds Is Not a Sequel, But Not a Remake Either

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Nintendo's Zelda franchise boss Eiji Aonuma says the upcoming 3DS title is set in the "same world but in a different generation".

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds is the upcoming sequel to the SNES's A Link to The Past. Except it's not really a sequel. And it isn't a remake either. Nintendo's Zelda franchise boss Eiji Aonuma talked to Kotaku about how the world of A Link to The Past has changed in A Link Between Worlds, and what both newcomers and veterans to the Zelda franchise can expect.

"It's not a direct sequel in the sense that it's the same Link and Zelda," said Aonuma, "the world is the same and it might be a different generation of Link and Zelda." So... it's a remake then? "They're similar," Aonuma said, "but not identical. This isn't a remake." Aonuma elaborates: "It's the same world, It's the same space. But in the same way that, over time, the topography can change, there will be some changes. The land will be affected a little bit."

Using the example of the game's dungeons, Aonuma said their locations may be the same in both A Link to The Past and A Link Between Worlds, but the interior will be completely different. "Now that I say that out loud, it sounds a little strange," Aonuma admits, but assures us that his team is "making decisions based on what's best for gameplay. We're picking and choosing what we change and what we don't, so players can expect some changes."

"We've added a dimension," Aonuma said, referring to Link's new ability to become a 2D drawing. He noted that it could take a familiar location and let "players see it in a whole new light."

Aonuma previously said that the game will "shock" fans with a big surprise right at the start of the game. He also said the game will run at 60FPS while in 3D and feature both the Light and Dark worlds from A Link to The Past.

Source: Kotaku

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So... it's like one of those Capcom sequels/ expansion packs/addons? Am I reading this right?

Well of course it's a different generation.
It's a 3DS title :P

"We've added a dimension," Aonuma said, referring to Link's new ability to become a 2D drawing.

Thats subtracting a dimension!

And so the timeline splits again.

Gearhead mk2:
So... it's like one of those Capcom sequels/ expansion packs/addons? Am I reading this right?

The Zelda games are all set in the same universe, the only thing separating them is time. Most games feature a different reincarnation of Link and Zelda and the big question was if this Link would be the one from A Link to the Past. Which it apparently isn't. It will still be a full new game but the overworld map will probably look similar to ALTTP. Most likely 100-200 years have passed, or something to that effect.

Well, then there's the whole split-timeline thing going on, but we don't need to talk about that.

OT: Good. I love ALTTP but a direct sequel would feel lazy if anything, new mechanics in a familiar yet drastically changed setting sounds about right. I suppose it fits in the timeline before the Oracle games, so there's plenty of space there.

I was worried when someone first told me about this, I thought it was going to be a remake and ALTTP is probably the zelda game with the most timeless graphics so I really don't see a point. Glad it isn't.

I am very curious as to what it is that will shock fans.

Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

Yep. Because Skyward Sword plays like Phantom Hourglass, which plays like Ocarina of Time, which plays like Link 2, which plays like, ALTTP... I could go on.

You are wrong, oh so very wrong. Please, play the games before you say bullshit like that.

One thing I am curious about is since it is set after link to the past, will the master sword be in it?

According to the zelda lore LttP was the last zelda game in the "fallen hero" timeline to have the master sword which at the end of the game said it would sleep forever.

I'm just curious if they will somehow shoehorn the master sword in there or if we will get a new sword name.

lazinesslord:
I am very curious as to what it is that will shock fans.

licking the battery will shock you.

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

You mean like Majora's Mask?

So, basically, like spirit tracks?

all he could have said was "spirit tracks" and we'd get it

Great another split in the timeline, another divergence. So in this one does Link meet his mom, who falls in love with him instead of his dad - who point of fact is also named Link - and does Biff "ganondorf" Tannin kidnap Link's mom, thus creating a paradox that could wipe out Link's entire existence? Great Scott!



Ragora:

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

You mean like Majora's Mask?

Or Phantom Hourglass. That was a direct sequel as well.

Lagslayer:
And so the timeline splits again.

How? There are three splits already, wouldn't this just fit into the LTTP/Original/Zelda2 timeline?

Evil Smurf:

lazinesslord:
I am very curious as to what it is that will shock fans.

licking the battery will shock you.

Or putting a fork into the electrical outlet might also shock you.

On Topic:

But this just makes it a new game right?
Because almost all Zelda games are in Huryle just in different generations, well some could be seen as different "dimensions", but same shit different package, right?

Capitano Segnaposto:

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

Yep. Because Skyward Sword plays like Phantom Hourglass, which plays like Ocarina of Time, which plays like Link 2, which plays like, ALTTP... I could go on.

You are wrong, oh so very wrong. Please, play the games before you say bullshit like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

We all know that Wind Waker is identical to Majora's Mask except for the cartoony art style!

OT: It looks pretty awesome already, looking forward to getting hands on with it :P

And no Zelda game has been a sequel, they said it takes place in the same world not that it's a sequel.

Remus:
Great another split in the timeline, another divergence. So in this one does Link meet his mom, who falls in love with him instead of his dad - who point of fact is also named Link - and does Biff "ganondorf" Tannin kidnap Link's mom, thus creating a paradox that could wipe out Link's entire existence? Great Scott!

Thank you for linking these! XD I didn't know there was more than just the first one!

Then what was the fucking point!? Is it too hard to ask that we just follow one Link for a couple sequels so I actually feel a motivation to get immersed and emotionally attached? Is it too much to ask that you don't ride on the success and long established love of "A Link to the Past" to push units out the door?

Y'know what? If you're looking forward to this, then power to you, I'm glad. But I'm done with this shit. I'm not putting another 30 or 40 into a Zelda game, because its clear the main motivation for pushing them out the door year on year is to provide a reliable income stream and not to tell a cohesive story or provide an enjoyable gameplay experience, that stuff comes second.

If it's not a sequel and not a remake... it's a prequel.

I hate the zelda timeline, I remember when nintendo made the official statement that all zelda games apart form ones directly linked to each other were set in different worlds it made sense. It is also what allowed the games so much freedom, just let them make a new world that fits in the zelda style and vola they have new puzzle and gameplay mechanics that wouldn't be possible in the currently established world. Imagine if one day square enix tried to make a timeline linking all the final fantasy games together we would think they had all gone mad.

OT: I don't care just give me more link to the past, there were like 2-3 years of my life were I would just complete the game 100% and then reset it. Heck in my head a map of hyrul pops up every time I say a trailer for link between worlds so I can pin point the locations that are being revisited.

Bindal:
If it's not a sequel and not a remake... it's a prequel.

No It's Spirit Tracks

Seriously guy's half of you are overthinking this, we already had 2 games that had sequel 1 game Wind Waker arguable has 3 this is simply a Linear timeline sequel which given the Timeline is actually alright. It's not like the gap between MM and TPP more like Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks... infact that's exactly the same, Ganon is defeated and the sword will rest forever till some bad guy decides to screw Hyrule up the arse

And who was silly enough to compare Wind Waker to Majora's Mask? I hope you were joking.

So it's a typical Zelda game then? That's disappointing.

Nintendo's "Same shit, different day" style of development is why I skipped the Wii and the DS. I was hoping they were going to actually try to be interesting again now that they've pretty much lost their comfy Soccer-Moms-and-Five-Year-Olds market.

Ah well, at least the 3DS has some good third-party titles. Those guys actually give a shit.

So, it's basically a parallell universe then?

"If you only buy one game this month, let THIS be it!"

It seems like Nintendo was sad that it's timeline was finally understood well, so they decided to change this game so they can say "figure out where this fits now my fanboy monkeys!" >:D

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

I'm not going to get too confrontational, but I'll just say the only people I've encountered who make the claim "Zelda hasn't changed at all over the years" or "it's just the same game" never played enough(or any) of the games, if anything I've heard people complain about how the series keeps changing it's setting, art style, controls etc.

OT: To kinda counter what I just said, this game has me worried that the over world will just be A Link to the Past's and it will just feature new or remixed dungeons. It looks great, but I have my concerns. It doesn't help that Aonuma himself has a hard time explaining his point.

Not G. Ivingname:
It seems like Nintendo was sad that it's timeline was finally understood well, so they decided to change this game so they can say "figure out where this fits now my fanboy monkeys!" >:D

Don't worry nothing gets past me! If this takes place a "generation" or two after A Link to the Past, the order would go:

A Link to the Past
Then the two Oracle games featuring the same Link from ALttP.
Then Link's Awakening, again with the same Link.
Now time passes and this new Link would go on his adventure for Link Between Worlds.

I'm suprised people are even TRYING to keep a track of the continuity of Zelda right now. We've all known from about five or six years ago that, well...Zelda has many, MANY good aspects, but a cohesive, understandable timeline is NOT one of them.

bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences, it would have been unbelievably refreshing for them to take such a bold, creative (for Nintendo) step as to make a direct, genuine sequel. Good thing they changed their mind on that one--I had actually been excited about a Nintendo game for the first time since ALTTP.

Majora's Mask. Spirit Tracks. Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link. And hell, WIND WAKER, is technically a sequel to Ocarina of Time.

Did you even play the games? Or is this an attempt at trolling?

Hero of Lime:

Don't worry nothing gets past me! If this takes place a "generation" or two after A Link to the Past, the order would go:

A Link to the Past
Then the two Oracle games featuring the same Link from ALttP.
Then Link's Awakening, again with the same Link.
Now time passes and this new Link would go on his adventure for Link Between Worlds.

This game s either Between ALttP and OoA or After Links Awakening.

Either way this should fit in the Era of Light and Dark and not during the Golden Era

Red X:

Hero of Lime:

Don't worry nothing gets past me! If this takes place a "generation" or two after A Link to the Past, the order would go:

A Link to the Past
Then the two Oracle games featuring the same Link from ALttP.
Then Link's Awakening, again with the same Link.
Now time passes and this new Link would go on his adventure for Link Between Worlds.

This game s either Between ALttP and OoA or After Links Awakening.

Either way this should fit in the Era of Light and Dark and not during the Golden Era

Yeah, this new information wasn't really much of a curve ball for the timeline. At first I thought it would've been between ALttP and the Oracle games, but I suppose it can't be since it isn't the same Link as we all thought before. Plus the three gameboy games are all a part of ALttP Links' story, so A Link Between Worlds can only be between Link's Awakening and the original game so it would still fit into the Era of Light and Dark I believe.

...So, It's a sequel to "Link to the Past", in the same regards that Wind Waker is a "sequel" to Ocarina of Time?

So is he trying to say it takes place after A Link to the Past & before Adventure of Link in the Hero Defeated timeline, or that it's a 4th timeline?

Remus:
Great another split in the timeline, another divergence. So in this one does Link meet his mom, who falls in love with him instead of his dad - who point of fact is also named Link - and does Biff "ganondorf" Tannin kidnap Link's mom, thus creating a paradox that could wipe out Link's entire existence? Great Scott!

If Link & Zelda's decedents aren't already blood related, doesn't it mean they never got together in any generation? Or is the small percentage of people who think they're separated siblings right?

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bravetoaster:
Given that every Zelda game is the same game, remade again and again and again with--at most--superficial differences.

There have been 17 Zelda games so far. Of those, only 6 have had the standard "Find the Triforce and defeat Gannon to save Zelda" plotline. When you consider that one of those isn't a sequel, that's 5 of the 17 games; less than one third of the entire series. All the rest of the series has had their own original plot.

 

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