Xbox One Games Will Still be Playable When Servers Shut Down

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Xbox One Games Will Still be Playable When Servers Shut Down

Major Nelson assured us that at the end of this generation's lifecycle, when the Xbox One's servers shut down permanently, you'll still be able to play your old games.

In an interview with /r/games, Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb answered some of the most "upvoted" questions from the popular videogaming sub-reddit. Right off the bat, he was asked what would happen after the Xbox One servers are shut down at the end of the new generation. Specifically, he was asked if games would be unplayable after Microsoft pulled the plug. His response was a reassuring one: "That's certainly something we would not do. That's not the way the system is designed. It's designed for flexibility. But let's get the system out there first."

Next, Hryb was asked whether players who were banned from Xbox Live would lose access to the single player portion of all of the games they have registered to their account. "Absolutely not," Hryb replied with confidence.

"Come with us toward the light on an amazing journey, where we can unlock the potential of great gaming experiences."

Unfortunately, from this point on his replies are more deflections rather than straight answers. When asked why the Xbox One couldn't use a physical disk as a "failsafe" to bypass the 24 hour check-in policy, Hryb went on to talk about how its not possible because of how awesome the Xbox One's "family sharing library" is.

Hryb also seems unshaken by Sony's press conference, which practically devolved into mockery of the Xbox One. "I don't think we're going to change anything [after having seen Sony's conference]. We're very happy with what we've done with Xbox One."

Major Nelson seemed to keep coming back to the Xbox One's "flexibility" and "future proofing" as counters to the policies being scrutinized by reddit users. He ended the interview by again bringing up how great the "family sharing library" system will be, and how he wished more people would ask him about it. If nothing else he seems to be pretty damn excited about the system.

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So it becomes 'flexible' when the generation ends. Good to know.

Considering you never allowed us to play online after the end of the Xbox 1 games I call bullshit. You will keep it going a bit into the next generation then hold up your hands and say "We cant support these costs so we`re shutting down the servers. If you want a gaming experience you need to buy our new console; The Xbox Poo."

Oh and that habit of repeating things? Yeah that's a politicians tactic. "Say a lie enough times and eventually it gets accepted as truth"

Well this just opens a new can of worms. If this is possible at the end of the generation, then why not just scrap the DRM now? It's the question that begs to be answered.

Additionally, if games will still be playable, then I guess we aren't relying on the cloud too much then...?

How are the games going to playable when the servers are gone? They keep claiming cloud computing is going to make the console more powerful...but if its doing calculations server side how will the console do it when they max out the console &cloud power as with every generation? How will those games work offline?

I think there planning is very stupid, they don't seem to be future proofing their console and after watching the angry joe one he just dodges the questions and accuses joe of not caring about the family things and such.

Microsoft really just don't seem to get it, it's a shame really I liked the first 2 xbox's.

I think, that title is a little misleading, because he actually didnt say, that games will be playable, only that servers just never go off (yeah, right)...

Erm, this produces a problem for Major Nelson. Either....

a) He was lying before when he stated that games take advantage of "cloud processing" that allows their games to do things that they couldn't do without it. This would allow these games to continue working after the servers shut down, because they don't actually need this "cloud processing" to work. This, of course, begs the question of why this "service" is even there at all.

OR

b) He's lying right now. This would mean that when the servers shut down, that's it, the games are completely gone. If, indeed, the games actually draw upon this mystical "cloud processing" and cannot function without that, this would be the most likely situation. At the very least, it's extremely likely that when Xbone's servers finally go dark, you can say goodbye to any multiplayer functionality you may have enjoyed from those games....because for whatever reason, local co-op has died a sad and meaningless death.

Either way, he's lied to us at one point or another.

'course it could be a little from both columns, I suppose.

Oh come on. That's really poor journalism to just take their word for it. Just because one guy at MS says he wouldn't disable XBones when they shut down the server doesn't mean that's what will actually happen. I believe he believes that, but he's not the guy making the final decisions.

They don't respect their users now, what makes you think they will respect them at some nebulous time in the future?

Seriously, Escapist should not take any of these bastards at their word, and I don't just mean Microsoft, that goes for Sony, Nintendo, EA, Activision and all other corporate sociopaths. Why would you trust them?

Uh-huh. And what about the fabled cloud processing? How is a game which uses that supposed to work without your servers?

I reckon this guy's making it up on the spot.

So, basically... Wait until Gen-9 to get an Xbone, since all the crap DRM junk will be removed when the Xbone's successor comes around? Good to know, I will be looking forward to buying an Xbone at that time, then.

If anything, they'll make an update where they put in an option to have the Xbone work like normal, but when it isn't connected it'll require the disk be in the drive regardless of installation. Either that or they'll just not turn off one of their servers in order to dedicate it to the remaining Xbones.

I'd bet on the first one, but it still won't bring me back.

SergejH:
I think, that title is a little misleading, because he actually didnt say, that games will be playable, only that servers just never go off (yeah, right)...

The direct question was

After the Xbox One servers are shut down at the end of the new generation, will Xbox One games still be playable?

to which he replied

That's certainly something we would not do. That's not the way the system is designed. It's designed for flexibility.

Call me crazy but it does look like he is responding to her question and saying that yes, the games will still be playable. Considering this was the question she had just asked

But..but THE CLOUD!!

If there is no CLOUD, then where is the rain?!

You can just sort of see him mentally exercising telling himself "Don't say Xbone. Don't say Xbone, Don't say Xbone"
I have to say after watching a few Major Nelson interviews, he is genuinely really excited about this "family proposition" or whatever the fuck. Despite myself I really want to know exactly how that works.

Revolutionary:

I have to say after watching a few Major Nelson interviews, he is genuinely really excited about this "family proposition" or whatever the fuck. Despite myself I really want to know exactly how that works.

Credit where it's due - it's perhaps one of the few good changes they made, but now that the Microsoft hate-ball has gained momentum it's been completely overshadowed.

You can have a shared game library with up to 10 other family members, with two consoles at a time accessing and playing games from it. As someone in a household of many gamers this would be an absolute godsend. I wish there was a steam equivalent of this sort of thing.

Really? He really expects us to just take it on faith that our games won't cease to exist when the servers go down based on the claims that "It's designed for flexibility" and "That's certainly something we would not do"? But everything we've heard about the console has demonstrated that it is incredibly inflexible and they are completely willing to just screw over the consumer like that.

I'm no expert...and I will pick the PS4/PC over the Xbone no contest. But how much server 'power' do you really need for games to check-in once every 24 hours?

Running constant multiplayer games surely must be 1000000x more costly then simply 24 hour check -in's under a 1mb?
Xbone will patch the xbone or keep running their cheap servers.....

..wait a minute whilst typing this I just realised something. Those apparently cloud enhanced games....that must cost a lot.....yh.... doesn't make sense

So in other words, the bullsh*t about cloud being used to improve the game quality was absolutely rubbish since if it was used for anything other than an optional save slot, you wouldn't be able to play the game when the servers went down.
(unless it is used to work bigger multiplayer stuff, but that would probably generate enough lag so that any game using it would be unplayable anyway)

Also, if the servers are shut down, does that mean we could trade games normally, or would game trading become impossible?
(hypothetically of course, I'm not actually going to get one)

CriticKitten:
Erm, this produces a problem for Major Nelson. Either....

a) He was lying before when he stated that games take advantage of "cloud processing" that allows their games to do things that they couldn't do without it. This would allow these games to continue working after the servers shut down, because they don't actually need this "cloud processing" to work. This, of course, begs the question of why this "service" is even there at all.

Almost definately was all lies and marketing fluff.

OT: Cool, I still don't really want it though. None of the exclusives bar titanfall grab my interest and no one game can sell me a format. Bar a new main series Pokemon game that is.

Does the Xbox One have a main series Pokemon release in the works?
No?

Well too bad I guess.

alphamalet:
Well this just opens a new can of worms. If this is possible at the end of the generation, then why not just scrap the DRM now? It's the question that begs to be answered.

Um, so people don't PIRATE THE GAMES?

Isn't that obvious?

That's the whole point of DRM.

neppakyo:
But..but THE CLOUD!!

If there is no CLOUD, then where is the rain?!

There isn't any rain...there was NEVER any rain.

SergejH:
I think, that title is a little misleading, because he actually didnt say, that games will be playable, only that servers just never go off (yeah, right)...

Or, you know, it could be they're just not planning on leaving the servers up until the end of the console generation, and they intend to kill them early.

I mean, that'd fit the specific wording of the question too.

MY GOD THAT WOMAN IS HOT!!!!

Oh um yeah great still gaming and all that yep.

So what about when the servers go down midway through the generation (or at launch for that matter)? Will I be able to keep playing my games then? Somehow I doubt it.

Technically they aren't lying as your games will continue to function, but your Xbone will simply refuse to run them when it can't phone home the day after the servers go offline.

That's the catch you see. In a single swoop it both lies to us and tells the truth, so that years down the line when we cry foul Microsoft can pull that little clarification out of their back pocket like a legendary flame shield looted from the corpse of the grand overlord of the nine hells.

These Microsoft executives are just scum, pure fucking scum.

So the best time to get a Xbone would be when the servers are shut down because we won't have to deal with the DRM?

I certainly would go on the amazing journey with the girl that was interviewing him, with Xbone not so much.

Oh no.

What's that...fog moving in? I can't see anything at all...IT'S THE FOG OF MICROSOFT'S POOR PR!

Cower in fear as questions are dodged and answered in cliches! Can you hope to escape the gibbering buzzwords writhing in the mist?

Yeah, I'm totally fucking done with this shit. If microsoft are gonna go in this direction, the least they could do is be clear about their crap.

Did you see our awesome NOT exclusive game titanfall that will be also available for PC??? And did you know that you now can watch television while getting pop up messages? The future really is amazing!

It's designed for flexibility.

So what he's saying is, Microsoft can turn it off at any time but they choose not to?

Great, I'll buy it in 15 years.

Also, I don't like this guy's hat.

Undomesticated Equine:
I certainly would go on the amazing journey with the girl that was interviewing him, with Xbone not so much.

Because a Journalists perceived attractiveness (or lack thereof) is the most important thing when consumers need some clear info about any potential anti consumer practices...

Great. Maybe I'll get one when the generation ends.

But he didn't answer anything. He kept saying 'flexibility'.

And if the games can be played once the servers go down, doesn't that mean that their cloud processing is bullshit?

And what about when the servers go down during the generation cycle? Which happens even to the best of servers all the time.

AND HOW HOT IS THAT GIRL? OH MY GOD!

Akalabeth:

Um, so people don't PIRATE THE GAMES?

Isn't that obvious?

That's the whole point of DRM.

People will still pirate it anyway. I guarantee that within a month of the console being released that pirates will have cracked the DRM.

So there is no point in making paying customers suffer through all this bullshit.

This is SimCity all fucking over again!

`When the servers go down your Xbone will work just fine`

Then why the fuck is there a 24 hour, or if I am playing at a friends house, hourly check up where I have to fucking prove, an infinite amount of times, that I am not a thief and did not steal the games I bought. They basically blatantly admit there is a way to turn off the 24 hourly check up and they just donīt give a shit about you. You are there to serve the company and buy games so they get more money. What will happen when they go down during the consoleīs life span?

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