Microsoft "Has Alienated" the U.S. Military With Xbox One

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I'm sure they'll love trying to use the Kinect in their tiny closet sized rooms too.

"Why're you moving your bunk into the corridor?"

"Oh, I just need to scroll through Netflix listings with my Kinect, because I can't be bothered to press the buttons on my controller, it's such a hassle."

ritchards:
You know what... Sony should take advantage of this and say "discounts on PS4 for people in the service!" Or even free for some...? (Free to submarines for example?)

"Deep price cuts for submarines"?

I'll see myself out.

oldtaku:
We Halo 5 think Halo 5 we have Halo 5 some compelling Halo 5 reasons Halo 5 for you to Halo 5 buy one Halo 5 anyhow against Halo 5 all your better Halo 5 judgement Halo 5.

Sercvicemen! Did we mention Halo 5?

Theoretical Statement to Microsoft:

Where you're going. No halo can save you.

*quick cutaway to comical version of hell and back to MC-rep's face*

fix-the-spade:

Phrozenflame500:
Damn, somebody should do the math on just how many sales Microsoft is losing.

Over 50% against the 360, assuming every player who ever connected a 360 to the internet buys a Xbone.

It's actually worse. Imagine that Microsoft has only 100 customers using the X360, only 25 of those have the Internet connection the Xbone requires.

The Xbone really is shaping up to be one of the most colossal cluster fucks I've ever witnessed.

The solution to the sub problem is easy. Bug your commander until he allows you to surface the sub at least once a day so you can get a satellite uplink to the internet. Don't worry about revealing your position to the enemy, they will understand and let you off the hook because they will have to do it too for their crew.

Call me petty, but I really hope this helps to sink the Xbone in their flagship country, the US of A.

As I understand it, you chaps are very proud of your military, so hearing that 'Microsoft hates Soldiers' will no doubt do wonders for their post-E3 downward spiral.

PoolCleaningRobot:

Also, I find it funny how there are still people saying that only the people who keep up with video game news will know about the XB1's flaws. This article came from the The Navy Times and they called it "a sin against all sevice members"

I had to use a bus yesterday because our local tram line decided to close the track to work on it a few stops away from our destination. A few seats in front of us two middle aged women with kids spent the entire journey discussing saving up for a console for Xmas for their kids and how they were getting a PS4 on recommendation from various technical minded family and friends who had given them advice - they knew all about the Xbox one restrictions and were fairly appalled by it.

Anyone who thinks this hasn't entered public consciousness yet is deluding themselves.

Signa:
The solution to the sub problem is easy. Bug your commander until he allows you to surface the sub at least once a day so you can get a satellite uplink to the internet. Don't worry about revealing your position to the enemy, they will understand and let you off the hook because they will have to do it too for their crew.

Maybe, instead of flying the traditional white flag to signal a truce, they could put up one with a little Xbone logo on it. Then while the internet is up, they could play CoD with enemy submarines; like that boxing day football match they had in no man's land during WWI.

The Saga of the Xbone has gone from cringe-worthy, to entertaining, and has now become some sort of surreal self-parody. I think most of us are just watching with morbid fascination, like watching a bunch of lemmings walk off a cliff - except it just KEEPS GOING.

Holy shit I completely forgot about this factor. Oh god Microsoft; the fools keep on digging...

As a US Army veteran, I happen to know a good number of active duty soldiers and veterans of all branches, and none of the service members that I know, or their friends are planning n purchasing the XBoxOne, which is a fairly hefty blow to a customer base. We are talking about millions of people who regularly buy BRAND NEW games and consoles, some who even own multiple units of both. (Yes there are a lot of soldiers who I know that own 2 or more 360s and the same number of PS3s... 1 for home, 1 for their post quarters) along with multiple copies of their games. And, I have heard, but can not as of yet confirm, that the new XBoxOne will not be available for purchase on post, as most post commanders are against the requirements that it has.

I guess MS is not interested in gamers.

Microsoft's new motto should read: Becoming more and more like Apple with each passing day!

That being said, I do think this is the way the industry as a whole is heading. Such a shame really...we keep spending more and getting less.

Spacewolf:
Will be the same for the Merchant Navy and Offshore industries as well due to you getting a limited internet allowance at best and no internet at worst.

What is sadly more hilarious is another group they are giving the finger to. How are those xbox one consoles delivered to stores? Usually by over the road truckers who can be out on the road for weeks even months at a time. There are two ways to get internet on the road, crappy wifi at truck stops or over priced hotspots through a mobile carrier that come with data limits and still aren't that great. So Microsoft is also basically alienating the people who will deliver the consoles to stores for their customers to buy.

I don't know why he thinks everyone can have a steady internet connection. Hell cell phones have been around a long time now and I still have times I can't get a steady single to save my life, and you know when it happens? Always right when you need it most or when it will irritate you the most never when you are just in a meh mood and couldn't be bothered.

So WW3 is going to be started not over natural resources, not over religion, not over implacable xenophobia, but because a few military types get fed up with microsoft's moronic business practices and decide to nuke them.

Shit, I'm not even in the Army anymore and all this nonsense Microsoft keeps spewing is still pissing me off pretty regularly.

I thought this was already established. Nice to be confirmed, but I'm not going to say much on this. Just that it's yet ANOTHER nail in the coffin. Though, there may be too many at this point.

Vylox:
As a US Army veteran, I happen to know a good number of active duty soldiers and veterans of all branches, and none of the service members that I know, or their friends are planning n purchasing the XBoxOne, which is a fairly hefty blow to a customer base. We are talking about millions of people who regularly buy BRAND NEW games and consoles, some who even own multiple units of both. (Yes there are a lot of soldiers who I know that own 2 or more 360s and the same number of PS3s... 1 for home, 1 for their post quarters) along with multiple copies of their games. And, I have heard, but can not as of yet confirm, that the new XBoxOne will not be available for purchase on post, as most post commanders are against the requirements that it has.

I guess MS is not interested in gamers.

Wow. If the commanders are taking a stand, that says something. I mean it could always just be that they know their men won't be able to use it, so why bother. Still, I think it says something if the commanders are taking a stand. Which I would say is out of concern for their men.

Also, as Jim said, they have declared war on all of us. There's actually something ironic about that.

I would seriously like to see some gaming sites take a similar stand. I guess they don't want to harm goodwill with Microsoft, but at this point, I wonder how much good will there is.

rob_simple:
Call me petty, but I really hope this helps to sink the Xbone in their flagship country, the US of A.

As I understand it, you chaps are very proud of your military, so hearing that 'Microsoft hates Soldiers' will no doubt do wonders for their post-E3 downward spiral.

From what I'm hearing, it seems to be well on it's way to failing. I have spoken to several gamers and it's pretty much 7-2 against the Xbox. Those seven may not buy a PS4, though some will. And the two I know to be supporting it are pretty far down the rabbit hole.

As for the whole support of the military, yes, Americans tend to care for our troops. They do something many of us are afraid to do. It's not too much to ask to have respect for them. So, it likely wouldn't help in many people's eyes.

Saltyk:

Wow. If the commanders are taking a stand, that says something. I mean it could always just be that they know their men won't be able to use it, so why bother. Still, I think it says something if the commanders are taking a stand. Which I would say is out of concern for their men.

I can't speak for all base commanders, but I hunt with one though he's just Barigadier General, about once a month or so, and he's not going to allow the system on post, at all. Its partially about protecting the men and women, but also about protecting "sensitive" information. The Kinect2 is basically a high powered online and transmitting bug, and that is not good for a military installation that has tens of thousands of employees, medical information, and munitions, not to mention secrets.

If your wondering, we bagged a 360 pound boar this weekend, was a good hunt.

DVS BSTrD:

StewShearer:
"There was a person who said, 'Hey, I'm on a nuclear sub.' I don't even know what it means to be on a nuclear sub, but I've got to imagine it's not easy to get an Internet connection," said Don Mattrick, president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment division.

It means you're on a submarine that is nuclear powered.

Wow the quality of your posts is really sinking man. From puns to bitter sarcasm? Try not to torpedo your rep on this site, your rep is all you really have, y'know?

Devoneaux:

DVS BSTrD:

StewShearer:
"There was a person who said, 'Hey, I'm on a nuclear sub.' I don't even know what it means to be on a nuclear sub, but I've got to imagine it's not easy to get an Internet connection," said Don Mattrick, president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment division.

It means you're on a submarine that is nuclear powered.

Wow the quality of your posts is really sinking man. From puns to bitter sarcasm? Try not to torpedo your rep on this site, your rep is all you really have, y'know?

Sorry, The last year in gaming and this website has really done a number on my optimism.

CriticalMiss:

"I don't have additional details to share and can't speculate on workarounds at this time," said Xbox rep Danica Stickel.

I can think of one workaround, it's called 'Buy a PS4'.

The weird thing is: Usually work arounds cost more money.....

MorganL4:

CriticalMiss:

"I don't have additional details to share and can't speculate on workarounds at this time," said Xbox rep Danica Stickel.

I can think of one workaround, it's called 'Buy a PS4'.

The weird thing is: Usually work arounds cost more money.....

Microsoft are hoping that the PS4 has a $100 shipping fee.

Well at least the PR team had the presence of mind not to tell the military of all people "fuck off and buy something else peasant" but throwing their hands up and going "Well uh, that sucks I guess?" isn't really much better.

It's a shame because as I understand it the xbox360 had a huge following in the military gamer base. I'm just going off of anecdotal evidence of course but it seemed like anyone I knew in the army also had an xbox of some flavor and when asked they said most of their buddies did to.

Irridium:
It's the same with hospitals that get systems and games through charities like Child's Play. Connecting a console to the internet is the lowest possible priority in a hospital, so if kids were given the new Xbones, they wouldn't be able to play them.

Because it's an always online world and everything must be connected and fuck anyone who can't/doesn't want to be connected!

Considering that (if I'm not wrong) wireless signals are actually dangerous in hospitals, I'd say it's not so much the lowest priority as something to be actively avoided.

if i remember right,ps3/ps4 wont be allowed on military networks like Dod(it was called something else i can't remember)

StewShearer:
Microsoft, which has previously suggested players with connectivity problems stick with the Xbox 360, has expressed sympathy for service members. "There was a person who said, 'Hey, I'm on a nuclear sub.' I don't even know what it means to be on a nuclear sub, but I've got to imagine it's not easy to get an Internet connection," said Don Mattrick, president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment division. "If I was on a sub, I'd be disappointed." Despite acknowledging the less than perfect nature of Xbox One for service members, Microsoft has yet to offer any viable solutions for the near future.

You read that as sympathy and acknowledgement of fault? Maybe I'm just a cynic or maybe that sentence fell in line with Microsoft not giving a flying fuck about anyone without a broadband connection during the rest of that speech, but does anyone else see "ohnoes, it won't work for the 12 people trying to play our console on a nuclear sub, whatever shall we do?" there?

L to the O to the L to the Z

I really shouldn't laugh though I was all for Microsoft this generation, The 360 rules, asides from the red ringing, but that's all been taken care of.

But Microsoft has just been a comedy of errors lately and it's hard to imagine how much worse it can get than pissing off literally every active duty Navy Seal.

You dun goofed Microsoft.
Your console is bad and you should feel bad!
All your forward operating base are belong to Sony
I used to be a console manufacture, until I took an Xbone to the knee
Other Meme that expresses displeasure!

They're responce to everyone who comes out and says that they can't get a reliable internet connection is 'I'd be disappointed too'. I don't think it's disappointment, annoyance is more like it. Why on earth would you make a console that you know is definitely going to be a problem for people? It's just dumb really.

rob_simple:
Call me petty, but I really hope this helps to sink the Xbone in their flagship country, the US of A.

As I understand it, you chaps are very proud of your military, so hearing that 'Microsoft hates Soldiers' will no doubt do wonders for their post-E3 downward spiral.

Personally I think they just don't understand that soldiers don't get good internet. In their mind it's the way of the future, and everyone in the US is rich save for a few extremely backwards shitholes. They may not hate the military, but they are completely out of touch with reality.

Smiley Face:
The Saga of the Xbone has gone from cringe-worthy, to entertaining, and has now become some sort of surreal self-parody. I think most of us are just watching with morbid fascination, like watching a bunch of lemmings walk off a cliff - except it just KEEPS GOING.

Eventually it's just going to be bunch of Microsoft execs running towards something only to be vaporized by the current CEO of Sony.

Dr. McD:

rob_simple:
Call me petty, but I really hope this helps to sink the Xbone in their flagship country, the US of A.

As I understand it, you chaps are very proud of your military, so hearing that 'Microsoft hates Soldiers' will no doubt do wonders for their post-E3 downward spiral.

Personally I think they just don't understand that soldiers don't get good internet. In their mind it's the way of the future, and everyone in the US is rich save for a few extremely backwards shitholes. They may not hate the military, but they are completely out of touch with reality.

Oh yeah, I get that, I think everyone but Microsoft knows they're swinging for a miss, here. I'm just thinking of how some of the more right-wing news publications in the Americas might run with the story.

Personally I think they just don't understand that soldiers don't get good internet. In their mind it's the way of the future, and everyone in the US is rich save for a few extremely backwards shitholes. They may not hate the military, but they are completely out of touch with reality.

My family does quite well and are in no way poor or backward. But they do live on a farm and have to use rural wireless internet. The best speeds that are realistically affordable are about a 2 down .5 up connection. Fine for browsing, email, etc but it would never work for the XBone. It has nothing to do with being poor, just living outside of the city. Kind of sucks.

rob_simple:

Dr. McD:

rob_simple:
Call me petty, but I really hope this helps to sink the Xbone in their flagship country, the US of A.

As I understand it, you chaps are very proud of your military, so hearing that 'Microsoft hates Soldiers' will no doubt do wonders for their post-E3 downward spiral.

Personally I think they just don't understand that soldiers don't get good internet. In their mind it's the way of the future, and everyone in the US is rich save for a few extremely backwards shitholes. They may not hate the military, but they are completely out of touch with reality.

Oh yeah, I get that, I think everyone but Microsoft knows they're swinging for a miss, here. I'm just thinking of how some of the more right-wing news publications in the Americas might run with the story.

i was wondering about this as well. on the one hand if they badmouth the xb1 then they are effectivly hearding money away from US and towards japan. but on the other hand saying group Y does not respect our soldiers sells.
if they wanted to they could really kick up a stink over this and take it away from gaming and towards patriotic feelings of support our troops. if you dont support our troops you are unamerican and that can lead to you are hurting the war on terror, all it takes is (like in the artical) a uniformed guy on camera saying "i unwind with my 360 or at least i used to i cant do that anymore onbase its taken a toll on my nerves and im not doing my job as well" once you get something like it can quickly turn into a witch hunt.

im not saying they for sure are going to do this. its hard to say what the right wing media likes more patriotism or corporations. but if they wanted to they could do this so easy

I'm willing to bet Major Nelson of Microsoft will make a douche-bag comment to our armed forces on this latest issue with the Xbone. And the military will reply with either a nuclear strike on Microsoft HQ or send in Seal Team Six to take them out.

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Allow me to calculate how many customers you are losing Microsoft."

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It would appear my calculator function was never meant to go that high..

OT: Seriously, how many more times do they have to shoot their own feet before they make the always online BS opt in for only those that use the online features like family share?

Microsoft, you think this is just alienating military service members? Think again and check your pockets.

In America where the majority of the population is obsessively gung-ho about anything and everything military, this is a bigger slight than they realize. It's not just the service men and women that are effected, it's their families as well. By saying, "we don't care about the military," now you've encouraged every single extended family member to not buy the box. All it will take to destroy your revenue is for that statement to make it to the mass media (CNN, ABC, FOX News in particular). If so much as one conservative news anchor gets this news he's sure to call it a Blasphemy Against 'Merica and BOOM, there goes half of the North America sales, the majority buyer of the XBOX brand.

tardcore:
So WW3 is going to be started not over natural resources, not over religion, not over implacable xenophobia, but because a few military types get fed up with microsoft's moronic business practices and decide to nuke them.

hey, we're nuking our own country, it's a civil war, not a world war, bucko.

'murica isn't the entire world, you know. it'll be a world war for microsoft, though, they think that 'murica is the only thing in the world.

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