Metal Gear Solid Considered for Remake -UPDATED

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Metal Gear Solid Considered for Remake -UPDATED

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Hideo Kojima is looking into an outside studio to handle a possible remake.

While the Metal Gear franchise actually dates back to the late 1980s, the franchise as we know it today saw its foundations laid down in Metal Gear Solid, released on the PlayStation in 1998. A classic of its time, it was unprecedented in its implementation of both stealth gameplay and cinematics. That being the case, you might forgive modern gamers for looking back at it and seeing more rough edges than smooth ones. Just from a visual standpoint, games on the original PlayStation tend not to have aged all that well.

Perhaps recognizing this, series-creator Hideo Kojima has shown interest in remaking Metal Gear Solid using the Fox Engine, which is currently being used to make Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. During an E3 roundtable a fan expressed their desire to see remakes of both Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2. Responding to this, Kojima stated that he was already looking into an outside studio to remake Metal Gear Solid with the Fox Engine.

While unbridled excitement is the first thing that comes to mind with this news, a potential Metal Gear Solid remake also comes with questions. Most important is what a potential remake would retain from the original game and what it would change. The setting of Shadow Moses island, for instance, is kind of small when compared to locations in later games. While purists might want nothing more than a graphical and gameplay update, it could arguably be a good idea to expand on the game's setting as well. Also, the return of David Hayter would be a must. Keifer Sutherland will undoubtedly do a good job in The Phantom Pain, but the original Metal Gear Solid sans David Hayter as Solid Snake? That there be blasphemy.

Updated: According to Hideo Kojima, the source article that originally published his comments pointing to a Metal Gear Solid remake had made a mistake in its translation. "There's a rumor about remaking MGS1+2, but that's not true," said Kojima. He stressed that while he'd love to see a remake, his studio has far more present priorities, namely Metal Gear Solid V. Nonetheless, he added that he "wouldn't mind if a talented creator from an outside studio could [make] this happen." So you never know. A Metal Gear Solid remake may not be in the cards currently, but the future could always change that.

Source: GameReactor via GameSpot

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Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Why?

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Why does this need to be done again?

I think it would be more interesting to remake Metal Gear 1 and 2 instead of Solid. But that doesn't seem like the sort of job an external studio could do.

I guess it's not entirely bad. Another studio would handle this instead of Kojima, so as long as he finds a studio capable enough then it could work. Although I think he should skip a MGS1 remake (since there already exists a remake) and remake 2. That makes me wonder how much good the Fox Engine would do when you compare the expansive and dynamic open environment of MGS5 to the cramped Big Shell environment in MGS2.

@Tohuvabohu think Nintendo holds exclusivity rights to that one

I'd be up for a remake. Though I agree Hayter has to voice Snake again or it will just seem weird.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Agreed, I never got why this was never ported over to other consoles or even re-released in the hd collection. I tried Twin Snakes on the Gamecube but playing MGS with the Gamecube pad felt really awkward for me so I didn't finish it.

Mr Ink 5000:
@Tohuvabohu think Nintendo holds exclusivity rights to that one

That's part of the reason why actually and Nintendo doesn't wanna let go of those rights. It's a similar issue when it comes to the Megaman Legends games, mainly the first one as the first one was on the N64 (titled Megaman 64) and on the Playstation.

The Artificially Prolonged:
I'd be up for a remake. Though I agree Hayter has to voice Snake again or it will just seem weird.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Agreed, I never got why this was never ported over to other consoles or even re-released in the hd collection. I tried Twin Snakes on the Gamecube but playing MGS with the Gamecube pad felt really awkward for me so I didn't finish it.

Well, to be fair, the fan who asked Kojima about the remakes wanted one for MGS2, as well. Since Twin Snakes had graphics on par with that game, he probably wouldn't consider it adequate.

And likewise, I hated Twin Snakes on the Gamecube controller. I might have toughed through it, but I also found myself disliking some of the more Matrix-y moments the developers injected into it.

The Artificially Prolonged:

Agreed, I never got why this was never ported over to other consoles or even re-released in the hd collection. I tried Twin Snakes on the Gamecube but playing MGS with the Gamecube pad felt really awkward for me so I didn't finish it.

Nintendo have exclusivity rights on The Twin Snakes. Much like they do with Eternal Darkness as well (also by Silicon Knights)

Anyway, I'd definitely be up for this.

Although perhaps a little less of the Twin Snakes ridiculousness =P

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As for what outside studio it would be, I would guess Bluepoint? They did do well with the MGS HD Collection after all.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Becuase Silicon Knights. After they did Twin Snakes they went off and made thier own game, sued Epic when it flopped, lost their lawsuit and Epic's countersuit, and now theyre a gutted studio that exists only to pay thier dues to Epic and then finally die while the gaming community ridicules them for not knowing when to give up.

And porting games across systems was usually more trouble than it was worth for the Japanese publishers in those days.

Or, you know, you could just port Twin Snakes...
Although I don't know how much of that game is retained by Nintendo and Silicon Knights.

And yes, I liked Twin Snakes a lot, some stuff was definitely better than the PS1 original (having played the original like 10 times), but... dem backflips...

What would be the point of remaking MGS2? I guess you could cut out a load of unnecessary cut scenes, but you're then left with about thirty minutes of game. Just do something new.

Sledgimus:
What would be the point of remaking MGS2? I guess you could cut out a load of unnecessary cut scenes, but you're then left with about thirty minutes of game. Just do something new.

I think it'd be neat to see remakes of Metal Gear 1 and 2 from the MSX.

Remaking Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2? Okay. The former could even need some addional stealth and less "guess where you need to go next".
Metal Gear Solid 1? Well, I don't see why not. It was basically THE Metal Gear Solid game. Okay, there is another one, which is...
Metal Gear Solid 3. Oh boy, I would KILL for that. Especially a 1:1 remake just with improved visuals. Same gameplay (Subsistence Camera, of course), same story, same cutscenes, better graphics.

I already have Twin Snakes somewhere around here... Fuck it. I'll buy Metal Gear Solid again. Can't have too much Metal Gear

Andy Shandy:

The Artificially Prolonged:

Agreed, I never got why this was never ported over to other consoles or even re-released in the hd collection. I tried Twin Snakes on the Gamecube but playing MGS with the Gamecube pad felt really awkward for me so I didn't finish it.

Nintendo have exclusivity rights on The Twin Snakes. Much like they do with Eternal Darkness as well (also by Silicon Knights)

Anyway, I'd definitely be up for this.

Although perhaps a little less of the Twin Snakes ridiculousness =P

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As for what outside studio it would be, I would guess Bluepoint? They did do well with the MGS HD Collection after all.

Oh man I'd forgotten about the back flips. Clearly Snake's talents are wasted in Tactical Espionage, he'd fit well in Olympic Gymnastics :P

Fuck it. I'd buy it. But you better remake MGS3 as well you fabulous man.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

it was ok, it would have been better if they didn't fill it with lame acrobatic cutscenes and actually improved the game's difficulty to accommodate the change in gameplay.

what i would actually like to see first is a remade version of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 combined into one game to follow off from Phamtom pains to round it off and to add some more depth to the MSX Titles.

The Artificially Prolonged:
Oh man I'd forgotten about the back flips. Clearly Snake's talents are wasted in Tactical Espionage, he'd fit well in Olympic Gymnastics :P

Don't forget about the jet noises that Snake emanated when he triggered slow-motion. ;)

I hated Twin Snakes, and I really think that the original Metal Gear Solid has had enough remakes and re-releases. If they really want to remake something, they should do a complete 3D re-imagining of the first two MSX games. There's a place for it in the story (Kojima has slowly retconned elements of those games, piece-by-piece) and the game mechanics of Metal Gear have always been much better suited to 3D.

I'd love a modern MGS1 remake. The Twin Snakes was atrocious, thanks to some serious gameplay changes (first person shooting, ledge hanging, significantly improved enemy AI) without level design changes to compensate. Even ignoring the questionable creative decisions, it was awful from a pure gameplay standpoint. Metal Gear Solid deserves a better remake than that.

P.S. Thanks

I fucking hated Twin Snakes mainly because everything about it was worse besides the graphics. The music was worse, the voice acting was worse even though it was the same people, and the cutscenes were directed by the same asshat who ruined the chance to make a good Godzilla movie and made it into a Matrix rip off. Yes I fucking hate that guy.

ServebotFrank:
I fucking hated Twin Snakes mainly because everything about it was worse besides the graphics. The music was worse, the voice acting was worse even though it was the same people, and the cutscenes were directed by the same asshat who ruined the chance to make a good Godzilla movie and made it into a Matrix rip off. Yes I fucking hate that guy.

The music was nearly the same (I played both back to back and didn't notice any major changes). The voice acting was about on par (Snake, Colonel, Otacon, and Liquid were just fine, Meryl got better, Gray Fox was improved, Naomi and Mei Ling's lack of accents were disappointing). The graphics were a big step up, and I enjoyed having Zone of the Ender used for Otacon.

The big divisive thing was the cutscenes, which were, yes, over the top. Half of them were just fine (anything with Gray Fox was pretty sweet and fit with the game), and they especially work well in a post-Metal Gear Rising world, and some of them were just a tad too unnecessary (stop doing backflips!).

I think Twin Snakes is still pretty awesome, and it remains my definitive version of the game apart from the lack of VR missions.

Shame no one else at Konami cares, I guess.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Yeah I don't know many people who ever played it either. A shame really because it was pretty damn awesome. Ok it had some over-the-top cut-scenes but it was cool to see a classic game completely revamped (no pun intended)!

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

I never had a chance to play Twin Snakes though it is on my list...Assuming Solid does get remade again I would absolutely love it if it became a Wii U exclusive like how Twin Snakes was a Gamecube exclusive.

Why do we need to remake MGS1? I suppose it's not too much to look at, but anyone who will be unwilling to put up with some dated visuals probably won't be too willing to accept any of the other bullshit MGS pulls. Don't get me wrong, I love the series to death, but there's a LOT of stuff in there that I wouldn't be willing to put up with from most other series.
That being said, I feel that Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake are more in need of remakes. Sure, the franchise is still coherent (using that term lightly when talking about Metal Gear Solid) without them, and I love Sean Connery as Big Boss, but it'd still be nice to see those two games revisited from a more modern standpoint. Then maybe we can weed out some of the awful gameplay decisions. Metal Gear 2 was awesome, but having to constantly traverse back and forth from the Tower Building to the Zanzibar Building nonstop got really, REALLY annoying.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

Oh, I remember that remake, in all its back flipping glory.

ServebotFrank:
I fucking hated Twin Snakes mainly because everything about it was worse besides the graphics. The music was worse, the voice acting was worse even though it was the same people, and the cutscenes were directed by the same asshat who ruined the chance to make a good Godzilla movie and made it into a Matrix rip off. Yes I fucking hate that guy.

karloss01:

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

it was ok, it would have been better if they didn't fill it with lame acrobatic cutscenes and actually improved the game's difficulty to accommodate the change in gameplay.

what i would actually like to see first is a remade version of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 combined into one game to follow off from Phamtom pains to round it off and to add some more depth to the MSX Titles.

you guys know that when Ryuhei Kitamura first did the cut scenes he did them exactly like they were in MGS, It was kojima told him to remake the same scene but do them with his own style and having worked on a lot wih matrix style movies he when with what he knew, so he did n't do them because he wanted to he did it like that because he had too.

While it would be nice to play MGS on a setup it was designed for (I only played it on my PSP, and while it was fine and fun, I feel like it probably added a couple extra frustrations), I'd also prefer a remake of Metal Gear 1 and 2. Those are pretty important games to the series, stuff like Frank Jager and Outer Heaven are essential stuff. It would be pretty sweet to see Big Boss finally go to the dark side, as well as Solid's first big mission.

They should do it for its 30th anniversary. It'd be perfect.

You know what? Go for it. Though personally, I didn't think Twin Snakes was that bad. Just look at as the Legend of Shadow Moses. An interpretation of what happened. Not the actual events, which is the original PS1 game. Also, Metal Gear 1&2 from the MSX are totally worth doing over.

Verrenxnon:
Why does no one remember Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes? It was an absolutely brilliant game that deserved to be ported several times over.

twin snakes was garbage. The MGS2 features didnt work, or didn't make sense, and the anime cutscenes were retarded.
Snake was never a superman, and

I'd rather see Metal Gear 1&2 remade with an extra dimension, voice acting and 90% of the game being cutscenes. Well maybe not that last one.

As someone who was getting dewy eyed in MGS4's nostalgic moments, sign me the fuck up. I'd play the shit out of them.

so... they're gonna remake this game... again? WTF!?

Why not just port over Twin Snakes to a PS3/4 friendly media? I mean, don't they own the rights to the property? How much harder could it possibly be to program a GC game to work, vs a PS1 game?

[quote="Andy Shandy" post="7.819937.19778929"]
Although perhaps a little less of the Twin Snakes ridiculousness =「・quote]

Agreed. I tuned out of the series after playing the 2nd game, which didn't so much as jump the shark, as it did jump over the fucking ocean!

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