Xbox One Only Accepts Specific Headsets, Microsoft Explains Why

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I wonder whether Microsoft even realises that it's decisions are bad or not?

The DRM and online connection change followed and preceded by things like this are certainly proof of that.

That's awesome, it's great that the controller can send more data to the console for better voice quality, my PC suffers from this problem because my headset only uses a 3.5mm jack... oh wait, the quality is superb on the PC because it's dictated by the microphone itself and the codec used by the program.

What a f****** joke, skimming away at wallets wherever possible.

Am I the only one who noticed that they said that you could just use the Built in microphone on the Kinect? Remember? The one that'd try to spy on us? We all forget that? Not defending them, just there IS a mic in that for use online, not just for the NSA.

Keep digging guys, you're not out of the race yet.

I'm pretty sure there's a USB port on the console. Wouldn't have taken much effort to allow headsets to work. What a load of bull.

Cognimancer:

Just for comparison, the PS4 will include a basic headset in the box.

Awesome! This is the first I'm hearing about this.

Anyway, this gen seems like the polar opposite of last gen in that it's Sony presenting the friendly, powerful, fun-for-all, gamers-game-console. Microsoft on the other hand are the ones saying "THE FUTURE BEGINS WHEN WE SAY SO" etc etc. all while Nintendo is mostly ignored but doing it's own thing to general praise from its fans

One more thing directly in response to the title of this article:

Why does Microsoft require you to buy one of their new head-sets? Simply put:

Is Microsoft TRYING to dig themself a hole.

I mean they have USB right.. and they COULD support basic USB based headsets right. Right not! Because it is easier to get money if you force a SPECIFIC headset!

You know.....Being a student in the field of communication and management, I am fairly sure that if I observe the announcements for the XBone close enough I'll have enough material to write a thesis called; "how not to do it".

As someone who has played a few games with other people who use Kinect microphones, I can see this ending badly.
Who wants to listen to the distorted sound of their game in addition to your own?

Vivid Kazumi:

ZZoMBiE13:
The PS4 comes with an ear bud with a dangling microphone. Not exactly what I'd call a "headset". When I think of headset, I think of something that more akin to the MS thing. Though I still see no valid reason not to include it with the machine. Of course Sony didn't include a mic with the original PS3 and no one cared at all.

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that just looks ugly e-e edit:how the hell would i use that seriously?why isn't anyone making a hit piece on this piece of crap?

You put it in your ear and speak? Its not even that hard to use, I use one of those while walking and that thing lasted me a year before I dropped it and it smashed apart. The main reason nobody is bitching however, is because its a standard headset port that many of us with headsets dedicated to gaming and have spent a lot of money on such headsets, can actually use them.

You all remember how people watching the Xbone reveal from their 360's had their consoles shut off because their kinects picked up the hosts saying "Xbox, off"?

Well now every person on Xbox Live will have that kind of power. Oh boy.

Dogstile:

Vivid Kazumi:

ZZoMBiE13:
The PS4 comes with an ear bud with a dangling microphone. Not exactly what I'd call a "headset". When I think of headset, I think of something that more akin to the MS thing. Though I still see no valid reason not to include it with the machine. Of course Sony didn't include a mic with the original PS3 and no one cared at all.

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that just looks ugly e-e edit:how the hell would i use that seriously?why isn't anyone making a hit piece on this piece of crap?

You put it in your ear and speak? Its not even that hard to use, I use one of those while walking and that thing lasted me a year before I dropped it and it smashed apart. The main reason nobody is bitching however, is because its a standard headset port that many of us with headsets dedicated to gaming and have spent a lot of money on such headsets, can actually use them.

That, and it comes bundled with the PS4 for free.
As a poster earlier stated, you get what you pay for.

"The Wireless Controller has been redesigned to allow for higher data transfer speed between the controller and the console"

That whole "higher data transfer" gimmick is the exact same line people working at Currys gave me when I wanted a HDMI cable. Of course, that would mean paying nearly 100.

............ Really Micro$oft? WHYYY!??!? Do you HATE people even THINKING about buying your system? I never planned to because I knew that you were assholes who would screw people over at the drop of a hat. But do you HAVE to keep showing people how much you hate your consumer base? Seriously you could have just not said a fucking thing and no one would have noticed till the parents/people who do not know any better bought your crap and had to go buy a headset.

I am willing to bet that if a Micro$oft executive sharts themselves they do not run to the bathroom and try to clean up. They just scream in the middle of the room. "I JUST SHIT MYSELF!!!" Then stands there while other people leave the room instead.

What are these guys doing at this point. Like seriously I don't understand how you can mess up this much without it being deliberate. There is nothing good about this system.

I don't see anything wrong with only allowing official headsets if they want to. What I object to is that one doesn't come with the console as standard. It seems they have gone backwards while Sony has learnt from their mistake with the current generation.

What I get out of that is "Are higher data transfer rates mean we need to have new audio inputs for reasons..."
My guess is it's just to snuff out third party peripherals.

You have to wonder, has anyone over at MS's XBox Marketing and Design group ever actually listened to XBL? Heck at this point I'm hoping that the creepy Kinect is secretly recording everyone and broadcasting it all to some in console TV channel. I want to be able to watch as thousands of parents suddenly hear exactly what it is their young lying spawn have been associating with for years, as it comes blaring out of the TV speakers. The entertainment value will be priceless.

I would (If I was getting an Xbox One, which I'm not) be okay with only being able to use a very specific headset if it came with one. But it's not even coming with one?!

ZZoMBiE13:
The PS4 comes with an ear bud with a dangling microphone. Not exactly what I'd call a "headset". When I think of headset, I think of something that more akin to the MS thing. Though I still see no valid reason not to include it with the machine. Of course Sony didn't include a mic with the original PS3 and no one cared at all.

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Meh, that doesn't look that bad, though since I sit close to the tv when I play so I'm kind of worried about the sounds from the game coming through the mic.

Well, such a pity. It seems I can't really call it the Xbox 1-80 anymore. What with the Kinect still being the same spytoy from hell, the games still requiring always online if they use the cloud, the dashboard being designed for adds (and making them stealthy so we click on them by accident, the most infuriating kind of adds) and now this.

Yeah, still same old Xbone. Shame, I quite liked picking fun at the X180 name.

Also, what they said about the custom jack being necessary? Absolute lie. That little piece of hardware has gone unchanged in every single PC/Console/Stereo/TV/Cellphone/MP3/Insert-your-entertainment-device-here for who knows how long. Older televisions had thicker versions of the 3.5 mm jack, but this is the standard now and has been for a very long time. Sound quality and data trasmission depends on the Program used, not the jack.

Perfect example of idiocy brought about by greed. Absolutely disgusting.

Knowing Microsoft the head set will be uncomfortable. For fuck sake, the friggin PS3 lets me us any random USB head set. How did they screw this up?
*To keep profits up we will make it proprietary.

Legion:
I don't see anything wrong with only allowing official headsets if they want to. What I object to is that one doesn't come with the console as standard. It seems they have gone backwards while Sony has learnt from their mistake with the current generation.

The issue with not using an accepted standard is that many, many gamers who like to use headsets while gaming have already purchased very good, very expensive headsets to use. I myself have a very nice headset that I use specifically for gaming. Having them include a pice of crap headset with their proprietary standard would still be a big kick in the balls because it still makes my expensive headset worthless.

Seriously, there is no reason whatsoever to not use the industry standard in this case, it's simply a matter of money to them. Even the king of proprietary connectors (Apple) knows better than to use a non-standard headphone jack because they understand that people have very different tastes in size, shape and feature set for headphones. I can't stand wearing most headphones I've ever tried; they make my ears hurt.

Irridium:
You all remember how people watching the Xbone reveal from their 360's had their consoles shut off because their kinects picked up the hosts saying "Xbox, off"?

Well now every person on Xbox Live will have that kind of power. Oh boy.

Do you have a source for that first part? Because you can't just say "Xbox off" and it turns it off. There are a number of steps to do it so the chances of accidentally doing it are pretty much impossible.

Then that logic about saying it over Xbox Live? Wouldn't be smart if it turns off every Xbox including yours.

Gray Firion:
Well, such a pity. It seems I can't really call it the Xbox 1-80 anymore. What with the Kinect still being the same spytoy from hell, the games still requiring always online if they use the cloud, the dashboard being designed for adds (and making them stealthy so we click on them by accident, the most infuriating kind of adds) and now this.

Yeah, still same old Xbone. Shame, I quite liked picking fun at the X180 name.

Also, what they said about the custom jack being necessary? Absolute lie. That little piece of hardware has gone unchanged in every single PC/Console/Stereo/TV/Cellphone/MP3/Insert-your-entertainment-device-here for who knows how long. Older televisions had thicker versions of the 3.5 mm jack, but this is the standard now and has been for a very long time. Sound quality and data trasmission depends on the Program used, not the jack.

Perfect example of idiocy brought about by greed. Absolutely disgusting.

Exactly! The high speed data transfer is pure marketing BS. Microphones and speakers are ANALOG devices. They require a pair of wires and bandwidth really does not matter. The bandwidth is between the controller and the console. The special connector plug has noting to do with it.

Okay...I could understand only accepting specific headsets, the only headsets I've ever had that lasted a decent amount of time were the official ones, makes sense to protect customers from such shoddy things.

But not having one out the box? What the fuck is wrong with you? That's not only greedy, but it's gonna hamper attempts to create an active community. I've been in parties with people using kinect as a mic, trust me, it sucks. They can barely hear you, while you can hear everything coming out of their tv and their house. Fuck that shit.

I have a damned good Turtle Beach headset. Like top of the line hundreds of dollars headset! I was never going to get the xbox 180, but if I was, the news I can't use my headset would be enough to get me to not buy. Its like Microsoft did a focus group on bad choices and somewhere an intern filed the results under TO DO instead of NEVER EVER DO. Honestly, if they came out and said they were scrapping the entire Xbone project and they'll get back to us in a few years, I'd applaud. I'd applaud SO god damn hard!

TexDangerfield:
I like how everyone suddenly forgets that it includes a microphone system in the form of Kinnect but because it's Microsoft it's still cool to moan about.

you ever use the Kinect as a mic?

well ,let me tell you how if feels to be on the receiving end of it.

"MOM, get me some Chocolate Milk"
"WHAT?"
"CHOCOLATE MILK, GOD DAMN"
REEEEEEEESHC-STATIC and then random dog from two houses away starts barking
"DONT FUCKING TALK TO YOUR MOTHER THAT WAY"
"I DO-" REEEEEschschschREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

"SORRY GUYS, MY PARENTS ARE COMPLETE ASSHOLES!"

"why are you yelling?"

"IM NOT YELLING, I'M JUST USING MY KINECT!"

..... muted.

No, no fucking shit, that was my first experience with someone using the Kinect, and he is still muted to this very day because he refuses to think the Kinect is a piece of shit microphone.

But that's okay, you obviously like having game volume mute while your friends talk to you through the TV speakers, since that is how using only the Kinect would work.

So yes, lets fuck over the like, 3 or 4 customers out of 5 that would want an actual microphone instead of some casual peripheral.

SSJBlastoise:

Irridium:
You all remember how people watching the Xbone reveal from their 360's had their consoles shut off because their kinects picked up the hosts saying "Xbox, off"?

Well now every person on Xbox Live will have that kind of power. Oh boy.

Do you have a source for that first part? Because you can't just say "Xbox off" and it turns it off. There are a number of steps to do it so the chances of accidentally doing it are pretty much impossible.

Then that logic about saying it over Xbox Live? Wouldn't be smart if it turns off every Xbox including yours.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353010/kinect-trouble-xbox-one-reveal

Now, hopefully MS fixes this particular issue for the Xbox One. Hopefully. Personally I won't hold my breath.

walrusaurus:
seriously its really hard not to think that this whole xbone thing has been a massive misdirection, to rival that of "new" coke. So that when they release the for real console info everyone will worship at their altar. I mean thats gotta be whats going on right? I mean otherwise they're practically a self parody at this point.

Yes it really does seem like this clattering pile of garbage was designed by someone from "Bizarro World". Maybe MS will reveal that the xbone is just a giant April fools mind fuck.

I am rubbing my temples with a beleaguered expression ... when will this train-wreck make its last throw and heave into silence? Microsoft ... why?

Irridium:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353010/kinect-trouble-xbox-one-reveal

Now, hopefully MS fixes this particular issue for the Xbox One. Hopefully. Personally I won't hold my breath.

So they weren't shut off like you claimed, they just exited the stream. That is a problem but nowhere near as bad as you claimed.

I also doubt any xbox commands would come up while playing a game because a) most games dont break the 4th wall/mention the word xbox and b) if someone says it over Live they will ruin their game as well.

SSJBlastoise:

Irridium:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4353010/kinect-trouble-xbox-one-reveal

Now, hopefully MS fixes this particular issue for the Xbox One. Hopefully. Personally I won't hold my breath.

So they weren't shut off like you claimed, they just exited the stream. That is a problem but nowhere near as bad as you claimed.

I also doubt any xbox commands would come up while playing a game because a) most games dont break the 4th wall/mention the word xbox and b) if someone says it over Live they will ruin their game as well.

Yeah I did over-exaggerate. I've been trying to not do that...

Anyway. While it would ruin it for the speaker as well, they probably wouldn't care. If you're losing, it'd be a great way to rage-quit and take everyone down with you. I've been on Xbox Live, I would not be surprised in the least if this became the new way to grief people.

They just keep shooting their foot off dont they ? If i was working on their Pr department i would just toss all papers in the air and say screw you guys i am going home. Sad part is that the headset could be great for all i know but ordering ppl to use something and the public will hate it.

When will Microsoft just shut the hell up and stop saying things!?

I dont play online, so i guess this is a big issue for some. But i dont think its that big a deal. I just think that even if MS said they were adding 100 worth of notes in every console, people would still moan. We all have our reasons, i know. For me it was the used/renting games thing that annoyed me. But now thats not an issue im a lot happier. Everything else isnt much of an issue now. Though i was never going to buy it till next year.

As for Sony. Well, they couldnt risk making themselves look bad. They need a successful console and cant risk failing. PS3 was a success. But the way Sony is financially at the moment, i dont think they can risk taking a massive hit on the PS4. Maybe they could? But its better for them to make it less of a risk for them. An that is good business, eventhough i bet they wish they had done what MS had done.

But looking at the PS4, why are gamers not pissed at paying a fee to play online? 360 used to be the laughing stock cos we had to pay a yearly fee to play online and PS3 didnt. Now, all the sony fanboys are quite happy and understanding about the reason to pay a yearly subscription for online gaming.

Regardless of the anger and disappointment. I still think 360 fans will still by the XBone eventually.

In other words, Microsoft, this--

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