Oldboy Remake Trailer Sure Looks Familiar

Oldboy Remake Trailer Sure Looks Familiar

We've finally got a solid look at Spike Lee's Americanized remake of Chan-wook Park's brilliant Oldboy, and the only thing we can say for sure is that it certainly is a remake of Oldboy.

Oldboy, the original, is one of the finest films released over the past few decades. It's a Korean thriller that seamlessly blends Shakespearean tragedy, Oedipal horror, slick modern production values, and brutal fight choreography into a film that affects viewers in ways they won't forget for days after watching the flick.

Don't believe me? You can stream it on Netflix right this very minute. See for yourself.

When it was announced that Spike Lee (a director known as well for films like Do The Right Thing and Inside Man as he is for his incendiary racial politics) would be remaking Oldboy for American audiences the reaction was swift and immediate. "There's no way this can turn out well," the Internet masses cried. "Oldboy is too great, and Spike Lee could never hope to ape Chan-wook Park's masterful storytelling."

Yet here we have the first trailer for the film. A red band trailer, at that. And what do we see? A film that, while American, looks a whole lot like the classic Oldboy we know and love. Actually, it looks almost too similar to its inspiration. None of that films especially dark moments are reenacted in this trailer, but we do get a brief glimpse at Lee's attempt to replicate the iconic hammer fight scene. It doesn't look bad per se, but from what we see in the trailer there's very little sense of claustrophobia in the fight, which may serve traditional action film shooting techniques, but removes a crucial element of what made that scene so tense in the first place.

Plus, as much as we like Josh Brolin as an actor, he doesn't quite pull off that "bedraggled, insane, emotionally traumatized" look required of Oldboy's protagonist quite as well as Min-sik Choi, lead actor in the original. Brolin does add an element of sex appeal to the role that Choi lacks, but that's completely unnecessary for this particular acting gig, and could arguably serve to distract audiences from the important, dark themes of the film.

We won't judge Lee's take on Oldboy until we've seen the thing, but if this trailer is any indicator, the translation from Korean to American didn't do much to affect the film's broad strokes, but it may have removed all of the teeth that made the original Oldboy such a bloody fan favorite.

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Now i want to see the original SOO BAD right now...

edit::: ITS STREAMABLE ON NETFLIX! So gonna watch the sh** out this when i get home from work lol

They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!

Oldboy is one of my favourite films [Park is one of my most favourite directors] and seems like this Americanized version is going to be a very good film. But it has lost the original's subtlety. The violence and the 'gore' is still there but the original was much more. But being compared to the original was going to be the main problem. It seems like its going to be a good film at least by its own merit.

wooty:
They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!

They've been talking about it for a long time now and I am pretty sure most of the mob madness has died down recently. I mean, there's no way it will top the original, but it may still turn out well.

About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.

Quiotu:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.

As some people have said in the other thread:

And as I said on the other thread, if thats the case, it feels like a deliberate attempt at Americanizing the plot twist.

wooty:
They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!

It's not as bad as it sounds... Chances are that it'll be akin to the remake of Girl with a Dragon Tattoo.

What I mean by that is that the film wasn't AWFUL by any means. In fact, it was better than a lot of shitty American movies, however, it was not as good as the original, it was made unnecessarily dramatic in many areas of it and just ended up being silly when compared to the original. Also, the actors were shitty (Daniel Craig? Really? He can't act for shit).

The part that stops it from being as bad as it sounds? The part where barely anyone ever references the american version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. From what I've seen at least, the American version was swept under the rug as soon as it stopped getting shown at cinemas.

Eh I'm not too excited I like all the people individually that are taking part in the film. Buuuut Brolin looks sort of miscast, he goes from buff and grizzled when he gets taken, to when he's released where he's more buff and more grizzled. I think they should gone for an actor that NO one would of expected for the role. my personal choice would of been Forest Whitaker make him lose some of the pudge between scenes and I bet he would nail it.

I think the Americans will take the incest plot out so Jesus doesn't get mad.

I'm curious to see if it can be nearly as dark and twisted as the Korean original considering that it's an American film and they tend to get squeamish about some of these things.

All in all I actually do hope they change a decent amount, I don't really want to just watch "Oldboy in America", I'd rather it have its own take on the premise.

Soooooo not interested in seeing an Americanized remake of a film that is only a decade old. This looks like a pretty, sanitized retread of the original material. The trailer is boring, the action looks boring, and it lacks that dense claustrophobic feels that you get from Asian urban centers. Nope, not wasting my time/money. I also don't see it keeping the original ending, American audiences aren't so keen on Korean squick.

Captcha: Sleepy Hollow. Wrong movie!!

VonKlaw:

Quiotu:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.

As some people have said in the other thread:

And as I said on the other thread, if thats the case, it feels like a deliberate attempt at Americanizing the plot twist.

Either way, this film gives the character a motive, a reason to be "the good guy". In Park Chan Wook's version, Oh Dae Su is just after revenge and to quench his curiosity. He's not a nice person, and we don't feel sorry for him (for various reasons, ain't gonna spoil them here). That's what made it so strong - there were no good guys, and it has an incredibly conflicting ending. Who, in this wretched film, can you relate to? I don't know anyone who really relates to Oh Dae Su, even if they sympathise for him.

This remake looks Hollywood standard "Do this or I'll do this, mwahahaha". Boring.

I am not one to criticize a Hollywood remake as I really don't care, but that looked awful.

wooty:
They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!

As to Koreanizing it and have you READ the original.. it ... let me say the korean movie took good liberties.

As some people above have said they've already messed up a few aspects which makes me quite upset.


I have a feeling that this movie isn't going to be that good, especially not as good as the original was but I'll still probably see it just to give it a chance.

Ok so the core plot is somewhat the same but everything else is different (I doubt they will have him take a bite of a lived octopus, they change that angel wing gift for something else and having milk and noodle instead of dumpling)!

I highly doubt the remake can even top this iconic scene from the original!

Quiotu:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.

That actually didn't happen in the original Manga and was added to the movie. So you could argue that it's actually more faithful to the source material in this instance.

Scorpid:
Eh I'm not too excited I like all the people individually that are taking part in the film. Buuuut Brolin looks sort of miscast, he goes from buff and grizzled when he gets taken, to when he's released where he's more buff and more grizzled. I think they should gone for an actor that NO one would of expected for the role. my personal choice would of been Forest Whitaker make him lose some of the pudge between scenes and I bet he would nail it.

I second this notion. That could have been amazing as hell. Forest Whitaker doesn't get enough opportunity to go badass on the world. And he deserves it.

Well there was Repomen where he didn't need to go more badass and.. well he seems more everday guy and common. Not badass. Though admittedly would fit the role.. ten years ago. Yeah I think he's just a little too old to play a guy with a young daughter put away for 13 years.

Really the original story is more yakuza standard potboiler with a twist and the thrust is tour of the weird underground of then contemporary Japan. Park took that baseline story (that ends TERRIBLY) and fit it in with his Vengeance trilogy weaved in more classic elements and made it a comment in part on Korean society but mainly a specific part the type interacted with and the genre of vengeance movies. That doesn't make the movie less. It means an american take on the story is as valid. My apprehension is they are *doing it right* as to taking it and giving it some strong vibes and visuals and themes of its own hanging on the same or similar skeleton.

No... Just just no. It looks so god damn bad, how could anyone think this looks good compared to the originals? Spike Lee made some decent movies (although they were a little bit preachy) but you can't just go from muh racism muh civil rights to a very depraved very dark revenge story which was part of a trilogy.

America needs to stop doing this.

it looks like they haven't changed much other than the language and the actors. the shots seemed pretty damn similar. if so, it'll just be not as good as the korean version, but not as terrible as i feared when it was announced

So, I'm wondering....Why Spike Lee? I mean, this is more of a Tarantino kind of project isn't it? Maybe that's just my impression, but Seriously, Spike Lee?

Swiggity Swooty:

The part that stops it from being as bad as it sounds? The part where barely anyone ever references the american version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. From what I've seen at least, the American version was swept under the rug as soon as it stopped getting shown at cinemas.

The American version made back more than twice its budget in box office sales alone, garnered a higher metacritic score than the 2009 film, and was pretty positively received all around. The worst thing most reviewers said about it was that it wasn't really necessary, since the 2009 film was equally good, if in a slightly different way.

It's similarly possible that this remake will be a good film, just... unnecessary. I'm not holding my breath though.

Raesvelg:

Swiggity Swooty:

The part that stops it from being as bad as it sounds? The part where barely anyone ever references the american version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. From what I've seen at least, the American version was swept under the rug as soon as it stopped getting shown at cinemas.

The American version made back more than twice its budget in box office sales alone, garnered a higher metacritic score than the 2009 film, and was pretty positively received all around. The worst thing most reviewers said about it was that it wasn't really necessary, since the 2009 film was equally good, if in a slightly different way.

The American version was then pushed under a rug and forgotten. Not to mention how it was "Americanized". In the American version, the guy raping her uses his dressing gown as a fucking cape to show how he was in charge. Then when she gets mugged on the subway, she chases down someone and slides down an elevator to get her bag back. Two examples of the ridiculous dramatization in the American version.

Also, you're using metacritic scores as a gauge for overall reception? You may as well be using a taco shell to compare gas mileage on cars.

Swiggity Swooty:

The American version was then pushed under a rug and forgotten. Not to mention how it was "Americanized". In the American version, the guy raping her uses his dressing gown as a fucking cape to show how he was in charge. Then when she gets mugged on the subway, she chases down someone and slides down an elevator to get her bag back. Two examples of the ridiculous dramatization in the American version.

Also, you're using metacritic scores as a gauge for overall reception? You may as well be using a taco shell to compare gas mileage on cars.

It was hardly swept under the rug, it just wasn't fast-tracked for a sequel. It made over $120 million at the box office. That pretty conclusively demonstrates that it was positively received by audiences, and its metacritic score indicates that it was positively received by critics. Rooney Mara got nominated for the Best Actress Academy Award, for crying out loud.

Your dislike for the film was decisively not shared by critics or audiences around the world.

And you can look forward to a sequel next year, in all likelihood.

DTWolfwood:
Now i want to see the original SOO BAD right now...

edit::: ITS STREAMABLE ON NETFLIX! So gonna watch the sh** out this when i get home from work lol

If you go in to the first one thinking you're going to see a cinematic masterpiece, you're gonna have a bad time...

More on topic: I don't understand the sycophantic love this film gets? At the behest of my students, I sat down at watched this film one evening and came back, only to disappoint them by saying that I didn't really enjoy it...at all. It's incredibly predictable, the fights are mediocre at best, and the big twist is exactly what anyone with, quite literally, an 1/8th of a brain can see from a mile away.

Watch it, but don't expect the greatest movie ever told...fyi...Koreans are HORRIBLE at telling stories...especially anything other than drama, which they have in spades.

mokes310:

DTWolfwood:
Now i want to see the original SOO BAD right now...

edit::: ITS STREAMABLE ON NETFLIX! So gonna watch the sh** out this when i get home from work lol

If you go in to the first one thinking you're going to see a cinematic masterpiece, you're gonna have a bad time...

More on topic: I don't understand the sycophantic love this film gets? At the behest of my students, I sat down at watched this film one evening and came back, only to disappoint them by saying that I didn't really enjoy it...at all. It's incredibly predictable, the fights are mediocre at best, and the big twist is exactly what anyone with, quite literally, an 1/8th of a brain can see from a mile away.

Watch it, but don't expect the greatest movie ever told...fyi...Koreans are HORRIBLE at telling stories...especially anything other than drama, which they have in spades.

By no means am i expecting that. I just like a good revenge flick.

I just have an appreciation for single take fight scenes. The technical challenges of getting a bunch of actors to fake fight each other for one long take impresses me more then your typical highly choreographed and flashy fights.

Plus i do not go into a movie having high expectations. Something i use to do and it just ruined my viewing experiences. Now i sit back and enjoy the movie as it comes to me. Been happier ever since.

Asian movies have tiny budgets and likes telling the same stories over and over again. You'll always see it coming.

The red band trailer convinced me to finally finish the film last night (I had seen the first hour and loved it). It's genuinely one of the worst films I've ever seen thanks to the "big reveals." The film had a fantastic premise, acting and action scenes and I loved every minute of it... Right up until the first reveal. You know the one. After that, it became a boring, predictable film and all the magic was lost. It proved to be full of Eastern movie clichés and seemed like a terrible plot in general. The corridor fight scene, as amazing as it is, is the best in the film. Everything following that one is dull.

In my opinion it's a shame that this is the film that Park is most known for; I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK is one of the best films I've ever seen and shows he can tell a story better than most. But Oldboy is pointless crap.

But this remake at least looks cool. I expect the fight scenes to be a little better and Brolin's pretty great.

Sorry, you lost me at Josh Brolin's sex appeal. The guy looks like Mickey Rourke's younger brother. I think he suits the part really, really well on account of this.

OT: I'm giving this film a shot, if it is faithful to the original then it should at least be entertaining enough, plus I want to see what they shoehorn in as an ending since I'm assuming they won't risk trying to sell the original one to an American audience.

 

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