Call of Duty Developer Gets Death Threats After New Patch

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I think if you take the size of the COD community the loud mouth breathers are in the minority but are much louder than the rest. Much like any community we all suffer because of those people and yet we have no recourse to thin their numbers. As for the 0.4secs - 0.8secs that's a 50% damage nerf right? I can see how that might get annoying but why would you try to cut the head off of the people that are trying to improve everyone's game experience for free?

The Rogue Wolf:
Changes involving fractions of a second made to make-believe guns in a video game rate death threats, now?

Honestly it kind of makes me laugh. That's the kind of obsessive, in-depth knowledge that gets other nerds to make fun of you for being too nerdy. Seriously though it's 0.2 seconds, which is right around the speed of a human blink. How do you even notice something like that?

Zachary Amaranth:

And seriously, considering the guy who faced eight years of jail for one dumb comment in League of Legends, you'd think these rageheads would think twice before tossing off death threats.

I'm not sure they even think once, which is the problem both here and in the case of the kid who "threatened" to shoot up a school.

They're just lucky that the Treyarch guys are being so chill about it. Still though, it would be nice if they'd just learn to chill out themselves. It's a video game, and a multiplayer one at that. Be angry at the players, not the developers.

Just a quick thought if the devs really wanted to troll the CoD crowd they could take out the auto aim from those snipers too that would cause an explosion of hate i would play that game again if they removed the casual tard auto aim.

Thoralata:

erttheking:
*Sigh* how come the most obnoxious immature ones make the most noise?

Because the mature gamers are content to bury their heads in the sand and give bullshit excuses like "This is the Internet" or "Free Speech hurr durr"

Instead of taking the route of being louder by shouting "SHUT UP" to these obnoxious asswipes.

Hey mate, if I was actually in a situation where I had to interact with these people I'd be telling them to shut up. Fortunately for me, I'm not, so it's up to the CoD community to police itself. Unfortunately for all of us, it's up to the CoD community to police itself...

Mind boggling, see the same on mmo boards like wow and sto. Irrational BS when things change in a way that makes things less over powered.

The only news here is that people consider death threats on the internet to be worth anything anymore. Sure, they're immature fuckwits, but death threats are the new dirty look. It's not like anyone is actually going to carry it out.

Thoralata:

erttheking:
*Sigh* how come the most obnoxious immature ones make the most noise?

Because the mature gamers are content to bury their heads in the sand and give bullshit excuses like "This is the Internet" or "Free Speech hurr durr"

Instead of taking the route of being louder by shouting "SHUT UP" to these obnoxious asswipes.

How is it burying one's head in the sand, or a bullshit excuse, to suggest that they can say whatever they want? And more importantly, how are the two approaches mutually exclusive? Shouting "shut up" is the just response to someone saying something stupid, even for people who will defend that peron's right to say stupid things, that's why free speech works. People can say whatever they want, then they get judged and responded to by other people saying whatever they want. Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so, and it certainly doesn't mean you don't tell them they're idiots whenever you see it.

i see. poor kiddies cant do the usual camping with their anyway over powered weapons. good thing i dint touch this game. already lost my nerves with MW3 when everyone was using the fagkimos and aimbot.
i stick with my BF3, at least their i havent come across a cheater or that some weapons are over powered.

shirkbot:

They're just lucky that the Treyarch guys are being so chill about it. Still though, it would be nice if they'd just learn to chill out themselves. It's a video game, and a multiplayer one at that. Be angry at the players, not the developers.

Treyarch probably isn't worried because he knows those quick scoping noobs can't hit anything without aim assist. >.>

But seriously, it's nice that they're simply saying "not cool" and their attitude really should be followed.

Wait, these idiots are getting angry because of tiny, TINY changes to a few weapons, we're talking fractions of a second, I can't wrap my head around this, really, I can't. Death threats, oy... there is no excuse that can justify it. These are the idiots that give gamers a bad name.

I'd bang my head onto my desk at the stupidity, but it's cedar and I don't want to damage it.

In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.

Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!

People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.

MCerberus:
I think that the CoD community may be too far gone for ANYTHING to work at pulling this kind of stuff back. I mean GabeN and the Riot devs don't even get death threats from the notorious MOBA community.

I'm pretty sure they do. Chances are that they just stopped caring a long time ago.

I've been annoyed by patches and changes to gameplay in my MMOs but I've never been motivated to send out death threats. I'm barely motivated enough to complain about it in trade chat.

RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."

Roxor:
Increasing reload time by a tenth of a second gets people sending death threats? Seriously? It's such a short period of time, I'm surprised anyone noticed.

They won't have. The tweets were in response to him posting the patch adjustments for people to see.

RJ 17:
RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."

More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."

Zachary Amaranth:

RJ 17:
RRRAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! ONE TENTH OF A SECOND ON RELOADING JUST COMPLETELY DESTROYS MY KDR!!! RAGE RAGE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Seriously...and I thought I had no life because I've poured years of it into playing RPGs. Stuff like this just fuels the arguments "Games Cause Violence."

More like "games cause impotent threats of violence."

Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.

I really, really, REALLY wish there was a way to force these people to use their gamer-tag or other identification when responding, so that these fucks would get banned on spot.
Honestly, I know the idea of mandatory RealID on forums when it came to World of Warcraft had issues, but I wish something similar could be put in place.
I don't want them to go to jail (even though they are making death-threats), I want their toy taken away from them, and for them to be treated like the spoiled little shits they are.

Twenty Ninjas:
In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.

Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!

People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.

..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?

RJ 17:
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.

That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.

I... wow. Not only does it make me a little ashamed to call myself a gamer, but a human being, too. I don't want to even be considered the same species as people like that.

I really do hope things like this get taken seriously and people who threaten from behind the 'safety' of a screen get arrested. If I went up to someone in person and said I'd kill them and their family, I'd get arrested. Those people should be.

Not acceptable.

Zachary Amaranth:

RJ 17:
Well considering the story about that LoL player who ended up in jail for a few months because of a stupid joke about violence he made, I'd imagine the outside world takes these threats rather seriously.

That was a threat to shoot up a school, with graphic description, right in the wake of a major shooting in a school, with "lol" later appended. It was a sore spot to say the least. People don't really care about game devs or entertainers in the same way.

Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.

Realitycrash:

Twenty Ninjas:
In the news today: the internet gets outraged at random death threats sent from anonymous sources that most likely are still going through puberty.

Oh no! Death threats on the internet! Say it isn't so!

People need to grow a spine. And news outlets need to stop grabbing on to shit like this.

..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?

You'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how much gets excused by the internet because it's the internet. Apparently, we're all expected to act like sociopathic man-children, so it's okay when we do.

MeChaNiZ3D:
Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so

You know that nobody actually has the right to make a death threat, right? It's actually a criminal offense to utter death threats, as it violates another's right to a safe and harassment free environment, making the offender's Free Speech void in this case.

Saying you support someone's right to make a death threat is saying you support rights that a person does not have.

That's just wrong, but the worst part is that there have been worse patches than this one, yet this patch caused death threats.

Considering the fact that lag compensation and the massive amounts of chest high walls kind have nullified reload speeds this is pretty pathetic.

RJ 17:
Perhaps, but whenever the argument over games causing violence comes up, those that say it does can still easily point to stuff like this. We know it's BS, and you're right: they are "impotent threats of violence." But that still leaves the fact that it gives the opposition more ammunition for their arguments, that's all my point was.

There's no "perhaps." The conversation has never shifted this way, and likely won't. Why?

The same reason people would rather bitch about Obama being a Muslim or foreigner. The alternative isn't as fantastic, being at least partially grounded in reality.

Thoralata:

MeChaNiZ3D:
Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so

You know that nobody actually has the right to make a death threat, right? It's actually a criminal offense to utter death threats, as it violates another's right to a safe and harassment free environment, making the offender's Free Speech void in this case.

Saying you support someone's right to make a death threat is saying you support rights that a person does not have.

I don't know about US law, but in Australia a death threat is considered unlawful only if there's a reasonable expectation of it being carried out. The developer is being very silly if he perceives an internet message as serious intent, and by that token, I don't even think he does. He seems pretty cool about it, and I don't blame him for tweeting about it. Although I think it's ridiculous that we have an article on it, considering the frequency with which people on the internet make death threats.

MeChaNiZ3D:

Thoralata:

MeChaNiZ3D:
Saying that you support someone's right to make a death threat doesn't mean you don't think they're idiots for doing so

You know that nobody actually has the right to make a death threat, right? It's actually a criminal offense to utter death threats, as it violates another's right to a safe and harassment free environment, making the offender's Free Speech void in this case.

Saying you support someone's right to make a death threat is saying you support rights that a person does not have.

I don't know about US law, but in Australia a death threat is considered unlawful only if there's a reasonable expectation of it being carried out. The developer is being very silly if he perceives an internet message as serious intent, and by that token, I don't even think he does. He seems pretty cool about it, and I don't blame him for tweeting about it. Although I think it's ridiculous that we have an article on it, considering the frequency with which people on the internet make death threats.

That's a big warning sign saying "We need to change our behavior!"

In the US and Canada (I live in Canada) making death threats is illegal. In Canada there are several forms of speech that are illegal, such as racism, homophobia, sexism, ect. Hell, the Westboro Baptish Church is banned from crossing the border because of that.

And the highlight in bold is exactly what I was talking about. People just wave it off as "Well it's the internet" and that's not okay. It's not okay that the people screaming and shouting shit like this get a free pass to say whatever they please, but those who take a very reasonable and expected issue with it are somehow scoffed at for taking issue with assholes behaving like this.

This kind of double standard cannot last.

Realitycrash:

..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?

All I said was that people should grow a spine. I've gotten threatened so many times online and in real life and I've never had any news outlets running after me going BOO HOO over it. Nor do I care enough about random words people throw around when they're acting stupid.

The important thing is not whether I "think it's alright" or not. We can sit around getting pent up over other people's opinions all day long and at the end of the day it'll never be more than a pointless exercise. The important question is what we should do about it. And I'm vehemently opposed to doing much other than nothing.

The reasonable part of me says to just ignore these pathetic excuses for humans.

The unreasonable part of me says: track, arrest, trial and imprison.

likalaruku:
The only thing I really know about this game is this meme. Threats from obnoxious children are petty & empty, unless they know where you live & it's within biking distance from their house.

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Pretty much it. When I was in my early teens I was surrounded by people that only played Call of Duty. Eighteen currently and this is the first time in a while that I've been reminded that people still play entries into this franchise.

Thoralata:

MeChaNiZ3D:
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That's a big warning sign saying "We need to change our behavior!"

In the US and Canada (I live in Canada) making death threats is illegal. In Canada there are several forms of speech that are illegal, such as racism, homophobia, sexism, ect. Hell, the Westboro Baptish Church is banned from crossing the border because of that.

And the highlight in bold is exactly what I was talking about. People just wave it off as "Well it's the internet" and that's not okay. It's not okay that the people screaming and shouting shit like this get a free pass to say whatever they please, but those who take a very reasonable and expected issue with it are somehow scoffed at for taking issue with assholes behaving like this.

This kind of double standard cannot last.

I think it's perfectly acceptable, and should be acceptable everywhere. Not socially acceptable, but legally acceptable. Rather than banning opinions and views, we should be allowing people with them to show the world what idiots they are and be ridiculed for it. I don't see any double standard because neither I, nor most people who don't particularly mind that people send death threats that have no chance of ever resulting in violence because the people sending them are children, make the laws against other kinds of speech. The main contention, although possibly not applicable in this case, being that people who hold prejudiced views often don't see themselves as prejudiced or think they have good reasons. This will not be fixed by limiting discussion. That said, this is all far above the level of the death threat(s) in question, which are practically jokes by this point. There are plenty of people in media who get death threats all the time. I have gotten about 3 death threats for my involvement in something, however relevant that is. If anyone is seriously seeing these threats and fearing for their lives, they need to get a grip, honestly, and realise how little danger they present.

Thoralata:

erttheking:
*Sigh* how come the most obnoxious immature ones make the most noise?

Because the mature gamers are content to bury their heads in the sand and give bullshit excuses like "This is the Internet" or "Free Speech hurr durr"

Instead of taking the route of being louder by shouting "SHUT UP" to these obnoxious asswipes.

That is a contradiction.

If they are mature, then they wouldn't react by being louder and telling them to shut up, because by doing so they are lowering themselves to the idiots level and therefore wouldn't be mature. Shouting at idiots is not a mature response.

I much prefer to ignore them or else block them. If everybody muted and blocked this kind of person they'd eventually learn that people are not willing to put up with their crap. This kind of person thrives on attention and telling them to shut up is just one way of giving them that.

"Ignore the trolls" wasn't made up to out of laziness or apathy, it is because the best way to deal with attention seekers (which most of these kind of people are) is to ignore them, because by not giving them what they crave they will learn their behaviour isn't working.

Shouting at them in return just escalates the situation, it really is amazing how people haven't figured this out yet.

The other alternative for those willing to put in the effort is to teach people some compassion and manners, but that's not likely to work over the internet, because nobody really gives a damn what a stranger thinks when it comes down to it. That kind of thing is really down to family and friends who are a better person than the idiot/troll.

Twenty Ninjas:

Realitycrash:

..You think it's alright to threaten peoples lives and harass them because 'they are still going through puberty'?

All I said was that people should grow a spine. I've gotten threatened so many times online and in real life and I've never had any news outlets running after me going BOO HOO over it. Nor do I care enough about random words people throw around when they're acting stupid.

The important thing is not whether I "think it's alright" or not. We can sit around getting pent up over other people's opinions all day long and at the end of the day it'll never be more than a pointless exercise. The important question is what we should do about it. And I'm vehemently opposed to doing much other than nothing.

So have I. I've been threatened and abused mostly my entire life. I still don't see why I can't get worked up and call for these assholes to be banned from their game. Telling people to 'grow a spine' is unnecessarily inflammatory.

reason #1 e-sports should not exist. competitive gaming is a realm of radical meta-gamers that pits obsessive, unstable weirdos against each other for the world to turn their heads and snigger at. at some point we're gonna have to decide whether gaming as a culture is represented by the sportsmanship of frat boys, children, and overly-invested koreans; or by the thoughts and discussions of a more general and less voracious audience that build a social element to works of individual entertainment and art.

the point is gaming cannot have ANY defined culture, as a serious artform or otherwise, if it is simultaneously seen as a both an individual hobby and a publicly covered competitive sport. you dont call a basketball game a TV show, do you? its technically true, but socially its seen as something completely different from the programs around it. gaming as a culture needs to find some way to distance these two halves in the public eye, so that both can finally evolve into what they want to be, and fairly divide the news articles highlighting the stupidity of either, improving the public image of both.

Abomination:
The correct response is to find the accounts of those who made the threats then just ban their accounts with ZERO chance of recovery.

Maybe convince them to give the account information by saying "We are sorry you feel this way. How does an experience boost or custom skin as compensation sound?" or whatever to convince them to give their ID away. Give them what you promised at first, then after a week hit the fuckers with a ban preventing them from playing all games associated with that account. If they try and kick a stink about it you've got cause to inform the police of their death threats.

...and that's how you police the internet.

And then you lose your entire market due to the ensuing PR nightmare and allusions to 1984 and Big Brother. Seriously, trolls suck and ruin nice things for everyone, but if any business adopted that policy they'd get hammered from all sides. Ultimately, trolls aren't going to do anything but be annoying and obnoxious, and while they should be dealt with, the strategy needs to be viable.

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