Fez 2 Cancellation Surprised Polytron Producer

Fez 2 Cancellation Surprised Polytron Producer

Polytron producer Marie-Christine Bourdua was as surprised as everyone else by the cancellation of Fez 2 but says it's "totally fair" for creator Phil Fish to pull the plug if he wants to.

Fez creator Phil Fish had a king-sized blowup on Twitter last week after GameTrailers guy Marcus "Annoyed Gamer" Beer called him a few nasty names on his show. After lashing out at Beer, calling him a "middle-aged parasite" and worse, Fish posted a brief tweet saying, "im done. FEZ II is canceled. goodbye." The cancellation was confirmed shortly after via the official Polytron Twitter account.

Fish later stated that he didn't cancel the game because of Beer's specific comments but because he wants to get out of game development in order to escape "this abuse." Be that as it may, Bourdua said the cancellation caught her by surprise - but she's okay with it.

"It was weird and special to learn it that way, but I respect and trust Phil a lot, so that's totally fair that he decided that and he has his reasons," she told Joystiq. She said that she was "kind of in shock" about the situation over the weekend but added that Polytron still has plenty to do, including Linux and Mac ports of Fez and "other stuff" that's also in the works.

And surprise or not, as programmer Renaud Bedard pointed out, it's better for Fish to flame out now than in two years. "It's easier to cut it out now, than it is to say 'Hey, we've been working on this for years and I'm not feeling able to finish it'," he said. "So in that way it just makes more sense."

Source: Joystiq

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So... Polytron will continue without Phil Fish, or is Phil Fish staying around? Because if Phil Fish is staying, then canceling Fez 2 because of the abuse is a load of bull, and continuing without Phil Fish might mean their next game will suck.

Mr.Mattress:
So... Polytron will continue without Phil Fish, or is Phil Fish staying around? Because if Phil Fish is staying, then canceling Fez 2 because of the abuse is a load of bull, and continuing without Phil Fish might mean their next game will suck.

He said he's done with gaming, so I reckon he's buggered off.

Marie Christine Bourdua.

Funny thing - I went through my Bachelor's with her. We had several classes together. It's really weird how life tugs you along in new directions, seeing as I remember her wanting to start her own publishing house. I remember she'd talk about eventually attending classes at the Sorbonne University, too. Guess her plans changed. :)

The world's kinda small, huh?

I have a tough time respecting people who have the "Its my ball and I'm taking it home" response whenever they receive criticism. Honestly if you're going to produce any form of media, you have to be open to the idea that people aren't going to like what you do and in these times of communication, people will probably have negative things to say about you.

amaranth_dru:
I have a tough time respecting people who have the "Its my ball and I'm taking it home" response whenever they receive criticism. Honestly if you're going to produce any form of media, you have to be open to the idea that people aren't going to like what you do and in these times of communication, people will probably have negative things to say about you.

which still give people the right to take their ball and go home.

You cant say that people have to buckle down and accept any and all criticism and not do anything about it. Honestly I'm surprised that that dick with Game Trailers hasn't gotten his own abuse yet, from what I hear Fez was a pretty cool game with a decent following. And if I was waiting for the sequel when some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer essentially made that sequel canceled? Yea, guy would be getting some serious corporate guerrilla warfare, enough that it would be cheaper for GT to just let him go than to keep him on board.

Hell, if I was actually wanting to play Fez 2, I would go so far as to ensure that this dickhole would never get near another games website at all.

that is, if I actually wanted Fez 2, I never played Fez 1 because the indie section of XBL to me is like the plague, and seeing nearly every highest rated game a minecraft clone, I avoid it like hipsters and anything other than thrift stores.

Seriously, fuck Beer, his shitty show, and Game Trailers for not saying anything about his behavior.

Fez is on Steam now, so you don't even have to touch XBL

Oh no. Hate Marcus Beer because he only has picked on Phil Fish. He never says ANYTHING bad about other game maker. Like: Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision, Blizzard.....

Negatempest:
Oh no. Hate Marcus Beer because he only has picked on Phil Fish. He never says ANYTHING bad about other game maker. Like: Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision, Blizzard.....

Because that's what this article is about. Oh wait, no. It's about Polytron's future prospects, sans Fish. You know, something completely different than what you knee-jerk reacted to.

Keep your angry auto-responses in the actually relevant threads. Try here.

OT: It's good to see that Polytron didn't go down. I wonder what their next project will be.

Kalezian:

which still give people the right to take their ball and go home.

You cant say that people have to buckle down and accept any and all criticism and not do anything about it. Honestly I'm surprised that that dick with Game Trailers hasn't gotten his own abuse yet, from what I hear Fez was a pretty cool game with a decent following. And if I was waiting for the sequel when some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer essentially made that sequel canceled?

You don't seem to know how surnames work. Beer is his surname. Marcus is the name his parents gave him. Neither babies or parents get to choose surnames, they're kind of passed down automatically.

Go check your birth certificate. See that name that follows your first name? Your parents didn't give you that because they wanted to.

Funny how you rag on the guy for dishing out abuse, yet call him a shitbag and make ridiculous claims about his name.

Yea, guy would be getting some serious corporate guerrilla warfare, enough that it would be cheaper for GT to just let him go than to keep him on board.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here, but it doesn't sound friendly.

Hell, if I was actually wanting to play Fez 2, I would go so far as to ensure that this dickhole would never get near another games website at all.

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You sound like a real internet vigilante. Funny thing about vigilantism is that it never, ever works in real life.

that is, if I actually wanted Fez 2, I never played Fez 1 because the indie section of XBL to me is like the plague, and seeing nearly every highest rated game a minecraft clone, I avoid it like hipsters and anything other than thrift stores.

Seriously, fuck Beer, his shitty show, and Game Trailers for not saying anything about his behavior.

Beer expressed an opinion, which he's free to do, and which other commentators like Yahtzee and Moviebob do to a schedule every week. I don't agree with the guy, or particularly like how he expressed himself, but he's free to say whatever he likes. People watch his show for his grumpy ramblings.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
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Theres no need to be so condescending to the man, his anger wasnt even directed at you.

OT: I really enjoyed fez, its ashame we wont be seeing a second one but if phil wants to part ways as he feels he gets too much abuse then cheerio. I wish everyone involved the best of luck.

I dont know what Beer even said, but if he has a show in which he just criticises things unconstructively to the point he bashes the developer, then he sounds like a douche.

Mr.Mattress:
So... Polytron will continue without Phil Fish, or is Phil Fish staying around? Because if Phil Fish is staying, then canceling Fez 2 because of the abuse is a load of bull, and continuing without Phil Fish might mean their next game will suck.

I fail to follow.

Fez was only ever a ripoff of another, SUPERIOR flash game anyhow. Fish isn't some magician who makes games better. He was a noisy twat. Phil's greatest talent was always in money management, he's a finances genius.

Polytron is probably better without him.

flarty:

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
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Theres no need to be so condescending to the man, his anger wasnt even directed at you.

OT: I really enjoyed fez, its ashame we wont be seeing a second one but if phil wants to part ways as he feels he gets too much abuse then cheerio. I wish everyone involved the best of luck.

I dont know what Beer even said, but if he has a show in which he just criticises things unconstructively to the point he bashes the developer, then he sounds like a douche.

Beer basically brought up some valid points about Fish and the media, with obvious snark(along the same lines as Yahtzee does, but I don't even think it was as harsh as Yahtzee usually is). It wasn't on his show, it was on another. If it had been Yahtzee instead of Beer making the comments, most people in this community would be defending Yahtzee.

Right, i just went and watched an episode of this beers show, fuck me how boring is it? It was like my dad telling me to look both ways before i cross the road, and I'm 27. The bloke is criminally boring.

Baldr:

flarty:

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
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Theres no need to be so condescending to the man, his anger wasnt even directed at you.

OT: I really enjoyed fez, its ashame we wont be seeing a second one but if phil wants to part ways as he feels he gets too much abuse then cheerio. I wish everyone involved the best of luck.

I dont know what Beer even said, but if he has a show in which he just criticises things unconstructively to the point he bashes the developer, then he sounds like a douche.

Beer basically brought up some valid points about Fish and the media, with obvious snark(along the same lines as Yahtzee does, but I don't even think it was as harsh as Yahtzee usually is). If it had been Yahtzee instead of Beer making the comments, most people in this community would be defending Yahtzee.

I usually dont pay attention to the politics behind the games. If someone has something interesting to show me, then they have my full attention. Otherwise they can keep their opinions to themselves, unless its Jim of course. He is so dreamy with his raging passion.

Kalezian:
some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer

Oh come on. By exactly the same logic, the other guy's parents hated him so much that they named him "Fish".

Good on Polytron that they'll be able to continue without the cist known as Fish attached. Hopefully, they all have bright futures.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
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funny, looked at my birth certificate, fathers last name, Connor, moms is Lanier, and mine is Jones.

So, by your logic I must not exist because my last name isn't that of my parents.

Also, Vigilantism never works, excuse me while I spew knowledge upon you:

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Chris_Forcand

http://www.cracked.com/article_17170_8-awesome-cases-internet-vigilantism.html

or if that isn't enough to sate your thirst:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_vigilantism#Notable_examples

read on from there, internet vigilantism doesn't work is possibly the lulziest sentence I have ever read...

lacktheknack:

Kalezian:
some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer

Oh come on. By exactly the same logic, the other guy's parents hated him so much that they named him "Fish".

but for the record, I have yet seen anyone act stupid due to excessive consumption of Fish, or even get into car accidents due to a Blood Fish Level being high.

I think Beer got the worse end of it, you know he has to get so many messages from DudeBro's each day because of his last name.
Also, I like how you express how people can say their own opinions, unless they want to "take their ball and go home" then obviously they are self entitled shits and deserve no respect.

Kalezian:

amaranth_dru:
I have a tough time respecting people who have the "Its my ball and I'm taking it home" response whenever they receive criticism. Honestly if you're going to produce any form of media, you have to be open to the idea that people aren't going to like what you do and in these times of communication, people will probably have negative things to say about you.

which still give people the right to take their ball and go home.

You cant say that people have to buckle down and accept any and all criticism and not do anything about it. Honestly I'm surprised that that dick with Game Trailers hasn't gotten his own abuse yet, from what I hear Fez was a pretty cool game with a decent following. And if I was waiting for the sequel when some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer essentially made that sequel canceled? Yea, guy would be getting some serious corporate guerrilla warfare, enough that it would be cheaper for GT to just let him go than to keep him on board.

Hell, if I was actually wanting to play Fez 2, I would go so far as to ensure that this dickhole would never get near another games website at all.

that is, if I actually wanted Fez 2, I never played Fez 1 because the indie section of XBL to me is like the plague, and seeing nearly every highest rated game a minecraft clone, I avoid it like hipsters and anything other than thrift stores.

Seriously, fuck Beer, his shitty show, and Game Trailers for not saying anything about his behavior.

Beer didn't force the sequel to be cancelled. Sure, he had a part in it but in the end Phil Fish was the one to cancel FEZ 2 not Marcus Beer. Fish wasn't forced to cancel it; he choose to cancel it. I'm not defending Beer though. I have already decided to never watch any of the shows he does just from what I have heard of the guy.

On Topic: It is nice to know that Polytron is going to be staying around and are going to be porting games.

Kalezian:
some shitbag whose parents hated him so much they named him Beer

I'm confused. Isn't his name Marcus Beer? As in first name Marcus? Do parents choose last names now?

 

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