PlanetSide 2 Splits PS4 and PC Players

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PlanetSide 2 Splits PS4 and PC Players

PlanetSide 2 will cater to soldiers both on console on PC, but they'll be on different battlefields.

The PlayStation 4 already has multiple free-to-play MMOs in its line-up, including a port of the formerly PC-exclusive PlanetSide 2. Even though players on both the PS4 and the PC will be able to participate in the war for Auraxis, it looks like they won't be sharing the same frontlines. PlanetSide 2 creative director Matt Higby recently explained that cross-platform play isn't possible due to the technical challenges of parallel development.

"Because of the update cadence," Higby says, "and the additional steps you have to go through to be able to release an update on the PlayStation network, we're not going to be able to keep our servers in sync, so you won't be able to just play with the same people. They might be a week behind in terms of patching, or a day behind or whatever it ends up being, and we can't really have that."

Fear not, brave soldiers of the New Conglomerate and those other two factions - the PlanetSide 2 console experience won't be completely divorced from its PC origins. Even with differing patch schedules, Higby noted that the character format is identical on both systems, so it should be possible to port a character between platforms with ease. While that doesn't necessarily confirm that character transfers will be implemented, it's certainly a meaningful wink and a nudge in that direction.

Source: Eurogamer

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The peasants are not worthy to spill blood along side my Terran brothers. For the Republic, for the Master Race!

synobal:
The peasants are not worthy to spill blood along side my Terran brothers. For the Republic, for the Master Race!

Will I be hated because I only played TR because it was the MOAR DAKKA faction?

.... you know, setting up in the Infantry MAX and spraying down entire courtyards, killing everything that wasn't in an armored vehicle.....

well, better than the VS'es, LOL, HOVERCRAFT WITH LASERS AND LAG INDUCING KILL EVERYTHING WITH ENERGY BALLS RIFLES!

Also, any news if Planetside 2 is going to be on the Ps4 also? Because next generation I am getting one, but I'm going to feel stupid if the games I want to play [namely being Dust-541 and Planetside 2] are only for the Ps3.

Possibly enough that I will sell my 360 and collection of games so that I can get a Ps3 along side the Ps4

Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

I assume this is simply the eternal issue that PC controls are so superior to game controllers for fps play that it rapidly becomes a grossly unfair playing field if you mix the two. Didn't MS try intermingling the un interminglable with one early fps on the XBox to disastrous results? And since then pretty much everyone has agreed to just keep them separated?

faefrost:
I assume this is simply the eternal issue that PC controls are so superior to game controllers for fps play that it rapidly becomes a grossly unfair playing field if you mix the two. Didn't MS try intermingling the un interminglable with one early fps on the XBox to disastrous results? And since then pretty much everyone has agreed to just keep them separated?

ye they did.

they basically wanted to converge Windows Live and Xbox Live (and how they sold/served games) on both platforms and that was what lay behind conducting the testing.

PC players basically roflstomped console players so hard they abandoned the whole idea.

since then however valves Counter-Strike: Global Offensive did come up with one way around this by rating players play and having them only play against people of a similar rating thus keeping PC players and Console players meeting others they could actually manage to kill...and it worked apparently...but they too had to abandon cross platform support due to update syncing problems...its also a very different type of game...

i suppose some people might be disappointed in this (and i'm not sure about the explanation) but tbh i wasn't really expecting them to mix platforms in a game such as this one.

it'll be interesting to see who actually goes cross platform and who doesn't.

there are going to be a fair few console MMOs this generation i think...most of them on sonys PS4 if they continue to make it as easy for PC F2P ones as they seem to be doing...

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

It's one of those scenarios that just becomes more absurd the more you think about it.

It's also highlighting another reason why PC gamers are indeed the master race - we can update our stuff without needing to appease the gods of the other platforms.

No gods, no masters... only Gabe.

Kalezian:

synobal:
The peasants are not worthy to spill blood along side my Terran brothers. For the Republic, for the Master Race!

Will I be hated because I only played TR because it was the MOAR DAKKA faction?

.... you know, setting up in the Infantry MAX and spraying down entire courtyards, killing everything that wasn't in an armored vehicle.....

well, better than the VS'es, LOL, HOVERCRAFT WITH LASERS AND LAG INDUCING KILL EVERYTHING WITH ENERGY BALLS RIFLES!

Also, any news if Planetside 2 is going to be on the Ps4 also? Because next generation I am getting one, but I'm going to feel stupid if the games I want to play [namely being Dust-541 and Planetside 2] are only for the Ps3.

Possibly enough that I will sell my 360 and collection of games so that I can get a Ps3 along side the Ps4

Yes you will be hated. TR is only for hardline fascists, you are playing for the wrong team. NC will bring you freedom.

Article says nothing about the 3, Planetside is for Next Gen only. No way in hell could a PS3 run PS2 the game is a resource monster.

its understandable.

the game would divilute into a auxiliary stumped burst of lagg since the different configurations of the pc, you find throughout the market, would just start to heavily fluctuate the pixel dampeners on the volurion modul in graphic cards sold these days. in short:

its because of the damn blast processing power of the playstation 4 that we just cant do it.

its just as powerful as they said. the ps4 is a damn powerhog that truely will punish pc gamers to live in the shaddow of the new generation for years to come.

and people were silly just thinking that the different controls would cause a problem in a cross platform FPS.

it could had been a perfect opportunity to bury the hatchet on the console vs. pc controls debate once and for all.

what a shame.

Well I'm glad it's going to the PS4 only

Don't like Microsoft (with the exception of their Operating systems {well the good ones anyway}) or maybe it's just their audience that I don't like.

Regardless it will be interesting to see whether it takes off on consoles. If it does we might see more MMOFPS games. Which will be much better than more COD Clones

Probably for the best. Between two people of equal skill the mouse and keyboard user will usually prevail on the battlefield. Still that doesn't mean zero interaction, there could be a meta game aspect that takes from both versions.

This is the only possible option. You cannot mix controllers and M&K FPS controls without console players dying like animals.

Though, as a side point to that, I'd love to see K&M be a supported control format on console FPS games.

Call me Captain Obvious for saying this, but why not just delay the PC patch a week, if that's how long the console one takes to distribute?

Abomination:

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

It's one of those scenarios that just becomes more absurd the more you think about it.

It's also highlighting another reason why PC gamers are indeed the master race - we can update our stuff without needing to appease the gods of the other platforms.

No gods, no masters... only Gabe.

I do hope that was intentionally ironic

Roxor:
Call me Captain Obvious for saying this, but why not just delay the PC patch a week, if that's how long the console one takes to distribute?

I am convinced you have to have a maximum IQ to work in specific parts of the game industries, and being able to log onto a forum to post puts you a few points above the cut off limit in the corporate game industry. So something that is simple as dirt to us, will never occur to them.

Ftaghn To You Too:
This is the only possible option. You cannot mix controllers and M&K FPS controls without console players dying like animals.

Though, as a side point to that, I'd love to see K&M be a supported control format on console FPS games.

some console games do support KnM controls, they just dont advertise it readily.

Roxor:
Call me Captain Obvious for saying this, but why not just delay the PC patch a week, if that's how long the console one takes to distribute?

Oh lord I would love to see that! Not because it would mean cross platform play but because of the amount of people that would end up bitching about it. PC users have gotten used to having patches released as soon as possible and knowing that they have to wait because of consoles would most likely create a shit storm.

Desert Punk:

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

It lets us know that their PR department is as lousy as most others.

Technology incompatibilities? This kind of thing wouldn't be happening if you philistines just embraced the superior technology of Vanu already. Getting real tired of having to penetrate barbarian skulls with glorious Vanu lasers knowledge.

Knock, knock, enlightenment is here bitches.

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OT: I thought this might happen, a closed system where a patch has to go through quality checks by a third party was never going to keep up with a system where the devs can offload the patch straight to the end user. The alternative, delaying the pc patch, annoys their main clientèle which is nearly always a bad business move.

I kind of took this as red. Did they promise cross-platform play for PC/consoles at some point?

Well this makes it easier on both players and devs alike so that is why, yes console players would get shafted and then PC players would complain they haveto carry them as well, meanwhile Sony would need to mitigate these disputes while also doing synchronized development and servers... extra work to have people even more pissy just doesn't make sense on any level.

Akalabeth:

Abomination:

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

It's one of those scenarios that just becomes more absurd the more you think about it.

It's also highlighting another reason why PC gamers are indeed the master race - we can update our stuff without needing to appease the gods of the other platforms.

No gods, no masters... only Gabe.

I do hope that was intentionally ironic

I little of column A, a little of column B.

I think PCs are superior to consoles but I don't think PC USERS are superior to console USERS.

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

They can't push PC updates back, as it is Higby is pissing them all off with his stupid game design decisions and his insistence on trying out-do battlefield with the exact same crap battlefield is doing and charge 7$ for weapons and 20$ for reskins.

The fact is they only want planetside 2 on PS4 as a do-over. They botched the PC version, and try to pawn it off on the PS4 and hope console gamers won't notice the game is an unbalanced, broken, and run by a dev team of NC/TR fanboys.

The truth isn't that PC gamers will decimate console gamers or that they can't sync them up. The truth is they want a do-over after the fanbase loyalty on PC starting drying up when gamers noticed the devs were more preoccupied with giving their favorite faction the best weapon, and selling overpriced pay-to-win guns. Gamers didn't want to drop 7$ on a gun that will be nerfed and replaced with the exact same gun with different name every 2-3 months anymore. They were sick of it.

And honestly, the greatest irony of all is when the PS4 was touted as the "consumer protector" yet a big launch day game is a greedy pay-to-win F2P shooter made by Sony itself.

This isn't surprising. PC players will not only have an advantage of up to a years worth of certs, the accuracy of a mouse, and I would imagine a greater versatility in voice communication.

PatrickXD:
This isn't surprising. PC players will not only have an advantage of up to a years worth of certs, the accuracy of a mouse, and I would imagine a greater versatility in voice communication.

That's only the same as any new player to PS2 though, plus i'm sure they could add M+KB for PS2 on the PS4 :) The issue will likely be down to a combination of the 'standard' control scheme being essentially useless in PS2 though. The distances you fight at make BF3 look like CoD, so any form of aim assist at all becomes cheating. But killing anything without aim assist on console at any decent range is near impossible compared to a mouse, and not particularly easy (comparatively) with aim assist. That is why, for example, in BF3, the fights simply don't feel as dangerous on console, because they aren't if they guy is a decent distance away.

Note: I've use analogue sticks for fps games since fps games used analogue sticks (Hell, i even played unreal tournamet on the dreamcast and i cannot remember for the life of me how it worked with only one stick). I've only been playing on PC for about 3 years for online FPS games, so if anything, i'd be far worse with a mouse if there control schemes were equal aside from user skill/practice.

Therefore, with PS2, if it did become a big thing, they're basically saying 'look, guys, the mouse and keyboard is a lot better for fps games', thus shattering the delusion of a lot of people who may have never even touched one for fps games. That is a dangerous thing when you're a console owner, especially so when you make money selling controllers too!

The patch process is probably a media friendly scapegoat, but will also be a factor too.

It'd probably be possible to delay the PC patches/updates (thus incurring the wrath of the PC gamers), but syncing them up completely to roll out at exactly the same time is probably a lot trickier; and if you had different formats playing on the same servers with their separate updates coming through at even slightly different times it'd fubar the whole thing. Probably the only option would be to shut the servers down around update time, to allow both PC and PS4 updates to be applied - thus incurring wrath of the PS4 players and double wrath from the PC crowd.

The moment I saw the thread title was the moment I knew this was going to be the same old M+K vs controls debate and I'm glad I wasn't wrong once again.

Keep preaching to the choir because I can't see anyone ever getting tired of this same old debate for another 20 years.

Yeah, having shared servers definitely would not be fun for console gamers.

Ultratwinkie:

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

They can't push PC updates back, as it is Higby is pissing them all off with his stupid game design decisions and his insistence on trying out-do battlefield with the exact same crap battlefield is doing and charge 7$ for weapons and 20$ for reskins.

The fact is they only want planetside 2 on PS4 as a do-over. They botched the PC version, and try to pawn it off on the PS4 and hope console gamers won't notice the game is an unbalanced, broken, and run by a dev team of NC/TR fanboys.

The truth isn't that PC gamers will decimate console gamers or that they can't sync them up. The truth is they want a do-over after the fanbase loyalty on PC starting drying up when gamers noticed the devs were more preoccupied with giving their favorite faction the best weapon, and selling overpriced pay-to-win guns. Gamers didn't want to drop 7$ on a gun that will be nerfed and replaced with the exact same gun with different name every 2-3 months anymore. They were sick of it.

And honestly, the greatest irony of all is when the PS4 was touted as the "consumer protector" yet a big launch day game is a greedy pay-to-win F2P shooter made by Sony itself.

The servers still seem pretty populated (even is they all seem to be at the same continent) and while I will admit that some weapons are quite unreasonable to get with certs, all of the weapons are quite well balanced, some are just more specialised than others (Except the lasher, THAT is a pretty bad weapon) Heck I have played since beta and I still use the starting weapons half the time
So no, I don't believe for one moment that the game is pay-to-win and you would have to come up with a pretty strong argument to convince me otherwise.

If you pay 7$ for a weapon you have to be pretty stupid.
With a little patience you can get it for just over a buck (just under if you sink a lot of money into it in one go)
And that's just the most expensive ones at 700SC most weapons only cost 500SC and you can find ones for 250SC
Don't really know about the camo, as I don't really buy that separately but I believe that it works by the same principle
All in all they make the real money on those stupid enough to pay that much to play, and quite frankly I don't have a problem with that.

But all that does not matter, because most weapons don't really shine until you sink some upgrades into them, which can only be bought with certs (XP)

Ftaghn To You Too:
This is the only possible option. You cannot mix controllers and M&K FPS controls without console players dying like animals.

Right, I would like to know where this myth came from. The only FPS I know which mixes mouse & keyboard support alongside controller support is Dust: 514, a game very much like Planetside 2.

Guess what? The mythical rofflestomp didn't happen, in fact with vehicles quite the opposite happened and the mouse and keyboard players have done nothing but complain since.

Spacefrog:

Ultratwinkie:

Desert Punk:
Ok he is flat out lieing now...

Ok so it takes extra steps to release an update on play station.

A child that is particularly dim CHILD could tell you just to push the PC updates back to match up with when the Playstation updates are pushed through. Its ok, you can say what everyone knows, you are keeping them separate because console players would get destroyed by PC players in an all things being fair contest simply due to the way the controls work.

And seriously? SONY online entertainment is going to have trouble keeping things synced on a SONY console? What the fuck does that say about Sony?

They can't push PC updates back, as it is Higby is pissing them all off with his stupid game design decisions and his insistence on trying out-do battlefield with the exact same crap battlefield is doing and charge 7$ for weapons and 20$ for reskins.

The fact is they only want planetside 2 on PS4 as a do-over. They botched the PC version, and try to pawn it off on the PS4 and hope console gamers won't notice the game is an unbalanced, broken, and run by a dev team of NC/TR fanboys.

The truth isn't that PC gamers will decimate console gamers or that they can't sync them up. The truth is they want a do-over after the fanbase loyalty on PC starting drying up when gamers noticed the devs were more preoccupied with giving their favorite faction the best weapon, and selling overpriced pay-to-win guns. Gamers didn't want to drop 7$ on a gun that will be nerfed and replaced with the exact same gun with different name every 2-3 months anymore. They were sick of it.

And honestly, the greatest irony of all is when the PS4 was touted as the "consumer protector" yet a big launch day game is a greedy pay-to-win F2P shooter made by Sony itself.

The servers still seem pretty populated (even is they all seem to be at the same continent) and while I will admit that some weapons are quite unreasonable to get with certs, all of the weapons are quite well balanced, some are just more specialised than others (Except the lasher, THAT is a pretty bad weapon) Heck I have played since beta and I still use the starting weapons half the time
So no, I don't believe for one moment that the game is pay-to-win and you would have to come up with a pretty strong argument to convince me otherwise.

If you pay 7$ for a weapon you have to be pretty stupid.
With a little patience you can get it for just over a buck (just under if you sink a lot of money into it in one go)
And that's just the most expensive ones at 700SC most weapons only cost 500SC and you can find ones for 250SC
Don't really know about the camo, as I don't really buy that separately but I believe that it works by the same principle
All in all they make the real money on those stupid enough to pay that much to play, and quite frankly I don't have a problem with that.

But all that does not matter, because most weapons don't really shine until you sink some upgrades into them, which can only be bought with certs (XP)

I noticed a trend: with the way the things work if you pay money you get a huge advantage. The weapons when released tend to be very powerful for a while then nerfed. So anyone who buys weapons at their launch get a bonus than the guy who saves up and gets the gun well after the nerf.

The shotguns. The wire-rocket turret. rocketpods. The SMGs. Some lock on rocket launchers.

So yes, it is pay to win because you get the gun when it most matters. When I was there, everything was 700SC regardless, did they take the suggestion to lower their prices for the older weapons? Or are you citing cert prices?

Because that is amazing, Higby said on twitter that he never wants to read anything any player writes.

And by a lot of stats people throw around, planetside 2 lost a lot of playerbase. Its the reason the entire west coast is now one server. They merged a lot of servers.

And balanced? The new pistol for the Vanu is the worst in every single aspect from fire rate to DPS. The vanu get the very worst of everything. It doesn't help the developers don't even know what bonus to give vanu, or any other developer when their faction traits are concerned.

Hell, they can't even figure out if tanks should be killed by aircraft missiles because some campers cried when a pilot blew up their tank. Then they have the gull to try to introduce big dome shields over bases so aircraft can't shoot at anything that matters. An attempt to be an infantry game when many better infantry games exist.

Come on, what's wrong with implementing cross-platform Xbox/PS4 play? Surely everyone can see the benefits?

octafish:

Kalezian:

synobal:
The peasants are not worthy to spill blood along side my Terran brothers. For the Republic, for the Master Race!

Will I be hated because I only played TR because it was the MOAR DAKKA faction?

.... you know, setting up in the Infantry MAX and spraying down entire courtyards, killing everything that wasn't in an armored vehicle.....

well, better than the VS'es, LOL, HOVERCRAFT WITH LASERS AND LAG INDUCING KILL EVERYTHING WITH ENERGY BALLS RIFLES!

Also, any news if Planetside 2 is going to be on the Ps4 also? Because next generation I am getting one, but I'm going to feel stupid if the games I want to play [namely being Dust-541 and Planetside 2] are only for the Ps3.

Possibly enough that I will sell my 360 and collection of games so that I can get a Ps3 along side the Ps4

Yes you will be hated. TR is only for hardline fascists, you are playing for the wrong team. NC will bring you freedom.

Article says nothing about the 3, Planetside is for Next Gen only. No way in hell could a PS3 run PS2 the game is a resource monster.

Right, looking back I probably shouldn't of posted since I had been up for about 28 hours running on nothing but cigarets and Energy Drinks, or else I would of noticed in the title "PS4".

But I'm still wondering about Dust-541 though, that was another game I was looking at playing if it came to the PS4.

Also, NC only has shotguns, real power lies with a high cycling rate!

JokerboyJordan:
Come on, what's wrong with implementing cross-platform Xbox/PS4 play? Surely everyone can see the benefits?

Probably just annoying to coordinate the patch changes on both systems. That or XBox Live is very restrictive about who it lets the console talk to.

For those who are curious PennyArcade had a really good article about the console/PC difference coming from the designer of Monday Night Combat.
It mainly comes down to how fast you can turn. Consoles do a whole bunch of gimicks to make it work but they still have to pay a time difference to turn that PC players don't. Best example was a skill on the consoles that a person could kill 1 player with, on the PC they were taking out 2-3 people. Lots of skills had to be completely reworked because of that maneuverability difference.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/1/24/

JokerboyJordan:
Come on, what's wrong with implementing cross-platform Xbox/PS4 play? Surely everyone can see the benefits?

Microsoft don't like it it's a shame quite a few games have had to miss out on xbox360 because they refuse to allow anything to connect to the xbox outside of xbox live servers. Only games that I can think of that made it through before their policy changed were shadow run and Final fantasy xi.

J Tyran:

Ftaghn To You Too:
This is the only possible option. You cannot mix controllers and M&K FPS controls without console players dying like animals.

Right, I would like to know where this myth came from. The only FPS I know which mixes mouse & keyboard support alongside controller support is Dust: 514, a game very much like Planetside 2.

Guess what? The mythical rofflestomp didn't happen, in fact with vehicles quite the opposite happened and the mouse and keyboard players have done nothing but complain since.

Shadowrun happened. It was an online FPS Microsoft tried to make that crossed over Xbox Live and PC gaming. It was horribly, horribly badly balanced between the two groups, console gamers were slaughtered, and the idea was axed.

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