Xbox One Backward Compatibility Is a Future Possibility

Xbox One Backward Compatibility Is a Future Possibility

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The catch is that it's through the cloud servers, and the Xbox One doesn't want your Xbox 360 discs.

Thanks to the Azure cloud servers for the Xbox One, the console could have backwards compatibility in the future, but "we just have to figure out how, over time, how much does that cost to deliver, how good is the experience," Microsoft senior director Albert Penello said in an interview with Gamespot.

Both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will not be backward compatible at launch. Sony plans to use Gaikai, a cloud-based service that allows users to play games via the internet, as a way for people to play older games. Now Microsoft is open to the same method of backward compatibility, but Penello did not say how. "Because what the cloud can do is sort of hard to pin," he said. "Using our Azure cloud servers, sometimes it's things like voice processing. It could be more complicated things like rendering full games like a Gaikai and delivering it to the box."

In the same interview, Penello also acknowledged that the Xbox One is the most expensive console this season and that price will not be the determining factor on which console people buy. "I think we do more," he said. "I think our games are better...I just believe that we're going to have a better system."

Microsoft confirmed yesterday that it will support the Xbox 360 for three more years.

Source: Gamespot via IGN

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Wouldn't be much of a stretch. The Xbox One has proven to be nothing if not completely backtrack compatible.

Yet another thing they've decided to reverse their policy on. Anyone remember the thing that was said?"if you want backwards compatibility then you are backwards. there's a console for people who do want backwards compatitiblity. it's called the xbox360."

A possibility.

Weasel talk for It's not going to happen, but we'll promise anything if it makes you buy our hardware.

These open ended maybes never amount to anything, if Gaikai takes off I can see Microsoft scrambling around for a streaming service, but I see that being another Zune service...

Well to be fair, people have been complaining that the next consoles aren't backwards compatible, so even with the restrictions, this could be very beneficial for Microsoft. Especially, since who knows that's going to happen to the 360 after 3 or so years.

I'm still not getting one though.

subtlefuge:
Wouldn't be much of a stretch. The Xbox One has proven to be nothing if not completely backtrack compatible.

lol

roseofbattle:
Xbox One Backward Compatibility Is a Future Possibility

In the same interview, Penello also acknowledged that the Xbox One is the most expensive console this season and that price will not be the determining factor on which console people buy. "I think we do more," he said. "I think our games are better...I just believe that we're going to have a better system."

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Sure the price wont help make up peoples minds on which console they want... Just keep telling yourself that Microsoft.

Oh really? I thought people who wanted backwards compatibility were backwards?

Genocidicles:
Oh really? I thought people who wanted backwards compatibility were backwards?

Don't forget that quote comes from the man who, knowing in advance that he was jumping ship, willingly and actively destroyed all remaining credibility that Microsoft had.

Honestly at this point both consoles are almost identical. The biggest difference is the amount of goodwill gamers are willing to give each company.

TiberiusEsuriens:
Honestly at this point both consoles are almost identical. The biggest difference is the amount of goodwill gamers are willing to give each company.

I agree... Sony, as now, is having a reborn in trust and goodwill unlike the time they launch the PS3 (truly learning about past mistakes or learning to shut the fuck up? hard to say but either way it's PR is doing a good job) meanwhile Microsoft keeps building hate wich each new interview of their staff

roseofbattle:
Xbox One Backward Compatibility Is a Future Possibility

In the same interview, Penello also acknowledged that the Xbox One is the most expensive console this season and that price will not be the determining factor on which console people buy. "I think we do more," he said. "I think our games are better...I just believe that we're going to have a better system."

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Oh Sony, don't you ever learn? This is what you said last time about the PS3, and look what happened to you.

Oh, wait, it's Microsoft. Never mind. I guess history really is doomed to repeat itself. You'd think they would have learned from their competitions mistake, but Microsoft isn't exactly known for brilliance, is it?

Panello:
I think we do more.

It's not about how much you do. It's about what you do and how well you do it.

Panello:
I think our games are better

Keep thinking. They're not.

Panello:
I just believe that we're going to have a better system.

Believing won't miraculously make it better.

Johnny Wishbone:

TiberiusEsuriens:

Don't forget that quote comes from the man who, knowing in advance that he was jumping ship, willingly and actively destroyed all remaining credibility that Microsoft had.

I see. First Mattrick was a visionary that was misunderstood by a small, vocal minority. Then he was just an incompetent boob that could screw up boiling water. Now, he's a deliberate asshole that was out to sink the whole thing because he was on his way out. It's a conspiracy!!!

I would call you a fanboy, but then I'd be accused of trolling. Instead, just keep deluding yourself. That'll make you feel better.

Why can't he be all of the above? He may have good ideas, but he's completely screwed them all up, insulting his player base to cover for it. Not a fanboy, just a pc/xbox dude who thinks Mattrick has never really done anything good in the last few years. He was just one of the big pieces in Microsoft's recent muck of a PR system.

In other news Microsoft will say anything to sell products and is often lying to everyone..... Some people call it back pedaling they call it Thursday.....

Of course it could be XBox (the first one) compatible right out of the box, as both systems are essentially PCs. Can't see it happening though. They just want to resell us the same games over again...

If price isn't going to matter to customers, why not increase it by another $100 and make more profit? After all, you believe you have a better system and that it has better games. So that is added value and a measly $200 difference in price wouldn't shake the unwavering loyalty of Microsoft consumers!

More on topic, I wouldn't be suprised if this backwards streaming service had it's own subscription price. Adding yet more costs value to the Xbone. Obviously Sony are up to the same tricks so they aren't really off the hook either.

"Because what the cloud can do is sort of hard to pin," he said. "Using our Azure cloud servers, sometimes it's things like voice processing. It could be more complicated things like rendering full games like a Gaikai and delivering it to the box."

I'm sorry, this IS the digital cloud we're talking about, right? Not some arcane magical cloud that has to be woven by warlocks? Amazing how we're now treating the cloud like some mysterious entity rather than a fucking internet server...

Anyway...

This is... good, I suppose, but isn't the most important part of BC letting people use their old games from their last console? You know, so you're buying an UPGRADE, not a REPLACEMENT video game console?

In any case, unless this is just going to be an excuse to resell us the same games again rather than let us play ones we already own, it'll still be a bonus to the system.

This is the equivalent of buffing dents out of a totaled car. The damage is so done by this point that even things like this pale in comparison to the monument of issues. On another note:

subtlefuge:
Wouldn't be much of a stretch. The Xbox One has proven to be nothing if not completely backtrack compatible.

That was funny.

Even if it was an absolute assurance it still wouldn't shift my position on that paperweight. No way in hell.

Infernal Lawyer:

"Because what the cloud can do is sort of hard to pin," he said. "Using our Azure cloud servers, sometimes it's things like voice processing. It could be more complicated things like rendering full games like a Gaikai and delivering it to the box."

I'm sorry, this IS the digital cloud we're talking about, right? Not some arcane magical cloud that has to be woven by warlocks? Amazing how we're now treating the cloud like some mysterious entity rather than a fucking internet server...

Pretty sure they think those are the same thing.

Honestly, I thought this was old news. I'm pretty sure I had heard this a while ago. And Sony, as noted in the article, has said the same. Not holding my breath on either, though.

If they go the route Sony took, and make old games available to play iff you buy them again it's not really "Backwards Compatible", it's more akin to an updated re-release ala Beyond Good and Evil HD.

While not a bad thing, it's not what is usually meant when people say they want backwards compatibility.

Microsoft, I want to be able to minimize the number of large plastic boxes in front of my TV without diminishing my current games library.

...that's not backwards compatibility, it's re-releasing. That would be like saying the PS3 is backwards compatible with the NES because you can play Bionic Commando Rearmed on it. I can't play my NES cartridges on a PS3, and you can't play 360 discs on an Xbone.

roseofbattle:
"Because what the cloud can do is sort of hard to pin,"

You mean the Cloud isn't all powerful magic that can do everything? Were you lying to us the customer about its abilities?

subtlefuge:
Wouldn't be much of a stretch. The Xbox One has proven to be nothing if not completely backtrack compatible.

Congratulations on on making me laugh.

Story:
Well to be fair, people have been complaining that the next consoles aren't backwards compatible, so even with the restrictions, this could be very beneficial for Microsoft. Especially, since who knows that's going to happen to the 360 after 3 or so years.

I'm still not getting one though.

The difference is, the people that complained wanted Xbone to playu their 360 discs. not to use cloud stream service.

Infernal Lawyer:

I'm sorry, this IS the digital cloud we're talking about, right? Not some arcane magical cloud that has to be woven by warlocks? Amazing how we're now treating the cloud like some mysterious entity rather than a fucking internet server...

Thats because cloud is not a server. Cloud does not need server. Technically, cloud stores data on your machine. that is, your machine store data for hundreds other people, and you store yours in hindreds other people. its like all machines interconnected, without a need of a central server. So far such system has never been utilized properly. on paper - its awesome idea. when you need power you got power of 100 machines, and whne you sleep somone else uses yours. In reality that would mean all machines identical, always online and with ridiculous data transfer speeds between eachother. so the only real posibility to utilize it is via LAN principle. and we just call them cluster servers.
When the world stops being stuck in the 90s and get its internet updated we coudl talk about local cloud, but for now it is just a arcane magical cloud that has been woven by warlocks.

loc978:
...that's not backwards compatibility, it's re-releasing. That would be like saying the PS3 is backwards compatible with the NES because you can play Bionic Commando Rearmed on it. I can't play my NES cartridges on a PS3, and you can't play 360 discs on an Xbone.

The case has already been made that new consoles can't play old games because of technical issues so they have to tweak it properly to work blah de blah. Of course, I agree; re-releasing old games simply isn't equal to backwards compatibility. I think it's damn awesome that my 3DS can play NES games, hand picked from the online shop, but it would be stupid to claim that it was backwards compatible with the NES for the reason you stated. (Then again, people are more willing to accept the excuse of technical issues, as well as be more willing to pay more money for something they already own, for a game that's from several generations ago as opposed to the last one)

Personally, I don't see why they can't have a system where you have to download last-gen consoles like XBLA or w/e, but if you happen to have a disk handy, you can VALIDATE it for the service, so you still have to download it but otherwise you're not paying extra for something you already own, or at the very least get a massive discount (playing devils advocate here, but tweaking games so they work on new technology DOES cost money. It would be better than just saying "Fuck you, get with the future" anyway).

Strazdas:

Infernal Lawyer:

I'm sorry, this IS the digital cloud we're talking about, right? Not some arcane magical cloud that has to be woven by warlocks? Amazing how we're now treating the cloud like some mysterious entity rather than a fucking internet server...

Thats because cloud is not a server. Cloud does not need server. Technically, cloud stores data on your machine. that is, your machine store data for hundreds other people, and you store yours in hindreds other people. its like all machines interconnected, without a need of a central server. So far such system has never been utilized properly. on paper - its awesome idea. when you need power you got power of 100 machines, and whne you sleep somone else uses yours. In reality that would mean all machines identical, always online and with ridiculous data transfer speeds between eachother. so the only real posibility to utilize it is via LAN principle. and we just call them cluster servers.
When the world stops being stuck in the 90s and get its internet updated we coudl talk about local cloud, but for now it is just a arcane magical cloud that has been woven by warlocks.

Wait wait wait... What? What exactly are you suggesting? Because it sounds like you're trying to say "while you're not using your Xbone, someone else is using the 'Power of the Cloud' to get some of it's processing power", and that's just wrong in so many ways. Either that or you're using that example to say why the idea of the 'cloud' is ridiculous or something, I don't know...
Either I'm seriously misinterpreting what you're saying, or you're suggesting something that even MS' PR team would cringe at. I mean, you DO know what a server is, right? I'm know questioning someone's intelligence is the height of rudeness, but this whole 'Xbone hive mind' idea has seriously confused me (that and it's late and I'm tired).

So long as I don't have to buy the old 360 games again (maybe it can track your User history if you transfer over to the One) I see this as an improvement. If not, then I still have my Xbox 360.

I don't understand Microsoft's thinking on this one. It's less powerful than PS4, comes out a week later, and in less countries than the PS4, and costs $100 more.I am legitimately baffled as to how Microsoft sees all these points and says,"Yea, that'll help us out just fine." What am I missing?

Me having a sexual relationship with Kate Upton is also a "future possibility." Doesn't mean it is going to happen.

If Microsoft is thinking about backwards compatibility, then they should either just do it or not mention anything at all.

subtlefuge:
Wouldn't be much of a stretch. The Xbox One has proven to be nothing if not completely backtrack compatible.

Someone give this man a medal.

exactly the same

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Joking aside, I'm sure the response to these undoubtedly good news will not be poisonous and unfairly dismissive.

Infernal Lawyer:

Thats because cloud is not a server. Cloud does not need server. Technically, cloud stores data on your machine. that is, your machine store data for hundreds other people, and you store yours in hindreds other people. its like all machines interconnected, without a need of a central server. So far such system has never been utilized properly. on paper - its awesome idea. when you need power you got power of 100 machines, and whne you sleep somone else uses yours. In reality that would mean all machines identical, always online and with ridiculous data transfer speeds between eachother. so the only real posibility to utilize it is via LAN principle. and we just call them cluster servers.
When the world stops being stuck in the 90s and get its internet updated we coudl talk about local cloud, but for now it is just a arcane magical cloud that has been woven by warlocks.

Wait wait wait... What? What exactly are you suggesting? Because it sounds like you're trying to say "while you're not using your Xbone, someone else is using the 'Power of the Cloud' to get some of it's processing power", and that's just wrong in so many ways. Either that or you're using that example to say why the idea of the 'cloud' is ridiculous or something, I don't know...
Either I'm seriously misinterpreting what you're saying, or you're suggesting something that even MS' PR team would cringe at. I mean, you DO know what a server is, right? I'm know questioning someone's intelligence is the height of rudeness, but this whole 'Xbone hive mind' idea has seriously confused me (that and it's late and I'm tired).

If they were doing the technical version of the cloud yes, that is what it is. the cloud to put it simply is all your machines working together. while hive mind is not a good deifinition since it isnt really a mind to begin with, but yes they work together in the cloud. I did mention that noone has managed to do cloud properly EVER with exception of Local itnerconnectivity, and those we called cluster servers anyway.
Yes i do know what a server is. i specifically stated at the begining that cloud is not a server nor it even needs a server to exist.
Now, mind you, im not saying microsoft has created a cloud. heck them putting 300 million server is already proof otherwise. im merely saying that both the poster and MS does not even know what the cloud is apperently. well PR often lie to impress so thats nothing new.

Now the whole "cloud is evil" is wrong. its not. If anything, its good. its sharing. you share your available processing power while your not using, and you use others when you need it. It runs on basic principle of sharing what you have. and it would work, if people would not turn the machines off as soon as their done using the power. well work as in in theory as so far internet wont allow it yet. Like many things, on papers its awesome concept. the main problem - humans.

 

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