Fox News Begins Two-Part Series Linking Games to Mass Murder

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Quick question. Is this the oppinion of the entire network or just one of the local channels? I ask as my local(I don't know how to underline) has actually said negative on this multiple times ( twice that i've seen). Also my oppinion 'bout the whole violent games make serial killers argument, I have to decry bullshit on that one, otherwise everybody on this earth would beem killed by screaming profanity spewing COD players. Disclaimer:note I am not speaking about the majority of players just that type.

Zachary Amaranth:

Creator002:
Good thing I play Microsoft Flight Sim all the time. I think I'm ready to be a pilot.

I forget: what sim/air combat game DID they try and blame 9/11 on?

I mean, I have trouble believing they'd let that gem just sail by.

I don't recall Fox reporting to that effect, but Daily Mail did an article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-357006/The-flight-software-trains-terrorists.html

Doom? Mortal Kombat? Really, Fox?

I mean, if you're gonna play up this same, damn song again, could you at least get some new examples? Why not talk about how you can enslave people in Fallout, or how you can shoot anyone you damn well please in Saint's Row, or how there's wonky, awkward sex in Ride to Hell: Retribution.

... Or you could simply stop trying to harp on video games like they're some kind of evil plague, especially given how no study has ever supported such a fact. Correlation =/= causation.

But then again, they're a joke anyway.

Zachary Amaranth:

erttheking:

That's certainly a good point. I still think it's a possibility though, I love Bioshock Infinite but it sure as Hell wasn't subtle. It even shows in the advertisements.

That could still be too subtle. They might actually think it's supporting their line of thought. :p

I've known more than a few viewers who didn't see why Andrew Ryan is the bad guy in Bioshock.

Or, should I say, didn't really see him as a villain.

MCerberus:

So you're saying The Milk Man works for Fox News?

I...I don't know. After that post I started to swallow my tongue and needed to be sedated.

Do you know how hard it is to type this message with my nose on a Galaxy S4?

*Sigh* Christ who the Hell am I kidding, you're right. Though that puts a more terrifying thought into my head. My Dad is a right wing nut job, thankfully he knows jack about video games but the last thing I need is for him to come in while I'm playing Bioshock Infinite or one of the places where the Enclave show up in Fallout. He'd probably get pissed at the sterotype, or wonder why they aren't the good guys, I'm honestly not sure which is worse.

Oh, so the circus is going to run a program on violent video games since fox news is ran by Clown's and Puppets? I'll order some cotton candy. Honestly, fox is a joke.

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
This happens every fucking year, multiple fucking times. Just fucking quit already, it was cute at first but I'm starting to think they actually believe the absolute bollocks they spew forth from their anus shaped pie holes.

I'm so fucking done.

Adam Jensen:
I'm not touching this one, and neither should you. I don't care anymore. Let's ignore them together and play our violent video games. Let's not actually engage in a meaningful rebuttal of this meaningless crap.

Rebutting Fox News is a full time job for 3 people working in shifts.

Here we go again~

Also I watched the Nasa stream yesterday, and the guy explained things like oculus rift's possible applications, and video games in general.
He also said that 97% of all kids in america play videogames. Good luck making a reliable link to killers.

FINALLY!! At last we have someone who can be seen as rational, sane, impartial, and agenda free looking into this issue. Hot diggity!

Honestly I was hoping the paragons of honesty at the Daily Mail would champion this issue, but Fox News is a good second choice.

I await the day this fact filled series makes all of you here that defend these mass murder simulators rethink your ill formed and frankly ludacris opinions. HUZZAH!!!

This just in! Every recent shooting in the US has been perpetrated by someone known to *gasp* DRINK SODA. Are sugary beverages just liquid murder in disguise?

Willinium:
Quick question. Is this the oppinion of the entire network or just one of the local channels? I ask as my local(I don't know how to underline) has actually said negative on this multiple times ( twice that i've seen). Also my oppinion 'bout the whole violent games make serial killers argument, I have to decry bullshit on that one, otherwise everybody on this earth would beem killed by screaming profanity spewing COD players. Disclaimer:note I am not speaking about the majority of players just that type.

In general, FOX News's primary network is very much against violent games. However, from my experience, the local FOX News channels tend to be much more level-headed about this and pretty much every other major issue than the primary channel is.

Anyways, everyone has known for a while that FOX News hasn't moved past the belief that violent games cause violent behavior. This is hardly surprising. Personally, I just find their attempts humorous at this point because it is obvious that they really don't have any power in this matter, given that their ranting on violent games isn't necessarily harming the industry at all or making any of its products illegal.

All I can say is: Really guys? Doom!? Were the makers of this also beyond impressed with the camera equipment used to film this?

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

It was posted onto reddit /r/gaming. After it was linked there a huge spike of no occurred.

Often times when reddit or 4chan is linked a flood of votes happen. So it may or may not be the fox news readers' opinions.

Edit: Considering the comment section /v/ was probably linked to it as well

Wait. realization. I know why Fox hates THE EVIL GAMES instead of guns. You see, when gun companies see people wanting to collect data or state that (and correctly) more guns = more shooting, likely to the innocents, they freak the hell out and start screaming about communists.

With games, gamers and companies point to past studies and historic context (the Seduction of the Innocent comic scare being a personal favorite). When someone proposes a new study, we're mostly 'come at us bro', since it has been studied already.

Fox News hates facts, so which group will they support?

Reporting actual news has long since fell by the wayside since these stations became 24 hour opinion pieces that regurgitate facebook/twitter comments in lieu of actual content. But Fox is the easily worst of the bunch, blatantly lying to the point of propaganda in their twisting of information and getting "experts" who have no knowlege of the topic to prove their point. Heck I'm surprised that after Obama got elected their heel turn didn't give the entire staff whiplash.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion, whatever it may be, but keep it out of what is supposed to be news. To quote Dragnet: "Just the facts, ma'am."

lacktheknack:

Dr.Awkward:
You know what? The only way we're going to get Fox News to shut up is if we get together, buy them out, and shut them down permanently. If we can do that, it would show just how tired we are of the sensationalist shit we have to deal with every day that comes from them and other news outlets.

Ooh! Ooh! Can we do the same to MSNBC? :D

Or... we could just ignore it. You know, like they don't want us to.

I love MSNBC and watch it several hours a day.

But if we have to buy BOTH of them and shut BOTH of them down in order to kill the colossal pile of fail that is Fox News, that's a sacrifice I'm MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE.

I mean, we'll be left with nothing but CNN, so we'll get even less news, but we'll never be uninformed about the First Lady's shoes again. And that's a world I'd rather live in than any world that includes Fox News.

ThunderCavalier:
Doom? Mortal Kombat? Really, Fox?

I mean, if you're gonna play up this same, damn song again, could you at least get some new examples? Why not talk about how you can enslave people in Fallout, or how you can shoot anyone you damn well please in Saint's Row, or how there's wonky, awkward sex in Ride to Hell: Retribution.

... Or you could simply stop trying to harp on video games like they're some kind of evil plague, especially given how no study has ever supported such a fact. Correlation =/= causation.

But then again, they're a joke anyway.

Um...maybe because Slavery, Shooting everything, and Awkward Sex (well...awkward straight sex between married christian people, anyway) is all stuff that 90% of Fox's core audience supports?

Fox will be Fox, it seems. Was Gentile's quoted section taken from the series? Because if they're actually looking at it properly it could be interesting. Unfortunately, as I said, Fox will be Fox. D:

Dr.Awkward:
You know what? The only way we're going to get Fox News to shut up is if we get together, buy them out, and shut them down permanently. If we can do that, it would show just how tired we are of the sensationalist shit we have to deal with every day that comes from them and other news outlets.

Naw, slowly but surely they'll retire or die of old age and be replaced by kid that grew up on video games and know that this violent video game stuff "blurring reality" is nonsense.

Being someone who grew up playing Counter-Strike and TFC, Sterling already proved this is a load of garbage to me first-hand in the Jimquisition by showing the Budd Dwyer footage and it twisted my stomach in a knot.

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

lacktheknack:

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

Oh sure. You're all ready to jump at the chance to get this poll thrown out for such a minor discrepancy in voting numbers.

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

Oh sure. You're all ready to jump at the chance to get this poll thrown out for such a minor discrepancy in voting numbers.

not sure if sardonic

From the Article: "We have to be very careful about saying what causes what," Koch-Sheras said. "There is a lot of debate on the issue. But this much is certain: We need to definitely be studying this more before the violent video games run amok."

...before the violent video games run amok...before the violent video games run amok...is that what happened to my lost copy of Battlefield? Did it escape and start running amok?

lacktheknack:

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

I'm just curious. Isn't everybody in Texas more of a gun maniac than somebody living outside of Texas (but still in the USA)?

Because if that is indeed the case, over FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND votes from Texas saying that violent video games aren't the issue should be a pretty strong argument to have on our side.

Matthi205:

lacktheknack:

Ldude893:
FOX News posted an online poll in conjunction with this; asking people whether they believe that video games cause people into committing violent crimes.

The results...wow.

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

I'm just curious. Isn't everybody in Texas more of a gun maniac than somebody living outside of Texas (but still in the USA)?

Because if that is indeed the case, over FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND votes from Texas saying that violent video games aren't the issue should be a pretty strong argument to have on our side.

A simple sanity check says "Someone cracked the system in Texas and voted 400,000 times".

That's why it's a garbage poll.

lacktheknack:

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:

Each state: 3-15 votes

Texas: >400,000 votes

It's a garbage poll. We have to throw it out.

Oh sure. You're all ready to jump at the chance to get this poll thrown out for such a minor discrepancy in voting numbers.

not sure if sardonic

Oh come on. Such a minor disparity in voting numbers only shows how passionate the citizens of Texas are about this issue.

... Or about how much the rest of the nation enjoys the idea of innocent people being murdered. I'm not quite sure. Well maybe with the exception of Florida.

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:

Psychobabble:

Oh sure. You're all ready to jump at the chance to get this poll thrown out for such a minor discrepancy in voting numbers.

not sure if sardonic

Oh come on. Such a minor disparity in voting numbers only shows how passionate the citizens of Texas are about this issue.

... Or about how much the rest of the nation enjoys the idea of innocent people being murdered. I'm not quite sure. Well maybe with the exception of Florida.

I'm going with the latter. The rest of the country saw the light with Florida. After all, if someone offered you a house in Oklahoma or a house in Florida, which would you pick?

Florida, obviously.

And it's clearly because of the random acts of excessive violence there! :D

lacktheknack:

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:

not sure if sardonic

Oh come on. Such a minor disparity in voting numbers only shows how passionate the citizens of Texas are about this issue.

... Or about how much the rest of the nation enjoys the idea of innocent people being murdered. I'm not quite sure. Well maybe with the exception of Florida.

I'm going with the latter. The rest of the country saw the light with Florida. After all, if someone offered you a house in Oklahoma or a house in Florida, which would you pick?

Florida, obviously.

And it's clearly because of the random acts of excessive violence there! :D

Exactly. With all the drugs and violence, living in Florida must be just like living in game worlds of GTA or Saint's Row. Would seem quite the Mecca for violent game enthusiasts.

EDIT: But I kid the wonderful Floridians. ..... please please PLEASE don't kill me.

Psychobabble:

lacktheknack:
I'm going with the latter. The rest of the country saw the light with Florida. After all, if someone offered you a house in Oklahoma or a house in Florida, which would you pick?

Florida, obviously.

And it's clearly because of the random acts of excessive violence there! :D

Exactly. With all the drugs and violence, living in Florida must be just like living in game worlds of GTA or Saint's Row. Would seem quite the Mecca for violent game enthusiasts.

And by extension... playing violent video games is the only way with which we can adequately prepare ourselves for the horrors of the real world, because Florida is in the real world!

I THINK WE'VE GOT IT!

Adam Jensen:
I'm not touching this one, and neither should you. I don't care anymore. Let's ignore them together and play our violent video games. Let's not actually engage in a meaningful rebuttal of this meaningless crap.

Sounds like a plan. Some things just don't deserve to be dignified with responses.

And in any case, this is coming from fucking Fox News. Everyone knows that it's an echo chamber for conservative wingnuts that panders to the paranoias, biases and fears of its audience. It's in the business of sensationalism, not reporting. No sane, rational, remotely well-informed person gives them any credence whatsoever -- as a news outlet or anything else -- and those who do can't be reasoned with. But, hey. This is a network that, among other things, has called Mr. Rogers a bad influence, denounced the Muppets as communist propaganda, insinuated false equivalencies between bronies and adults who live as babies full-time...and I shouldn't have to remind anyone on this site about how they handled Mass Effect. This isn't too far out of character for them.

If there's one thing I ever thought about Bioshock, GTA, or Saints Row it was how "ultra-real" they were. The realism was almost too much you could say.

Remember when it was comic books that turned kids into killers? Or Rock'n'roll? Or Rap? Or T.V? Or whatever was popular when you were a kid?
Everything popular gets blamed for crime. And every one looks back at the good old days when everything was great. In 20 years time there will be some idiot blaming [FUTURE TECHNOLOGY] or it and everyone will roll their eyes and seem to forget that this is what news networks do when nothings happening.

Also you really think that it's a coincidence that this comes out days before the new GTA? yeah right, next week GTA5 will hit a shitstorm over this.
"Think of the CHILDREN!!!"

Im sure it'll all be fine.

Everything fox reports is always Fair and Balanced

Right?....... Right?

So Faux News is being Faux News again

Even the muppets have enough of Fox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew1fhIvbprM

"Three more recent killers... all were active video game players."\
that's pretty much saying the same thing as
"Three more recent killers... all were active puppy owners"

how is fox news able to get away with this sort of crap without at least getting fined for something?

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